: boards will talk about this game only when there is something to complain about it
: I want a LoL open world MMO.
I'd love that too. After all, the foundation is definitely there.
: Thread loses credibility when you say "soulsborn". Leave "born" out of it :). Demons Souls Dark Souls 1 Dark Souls 2 Dark Souls 3 :)
they are all by fromsoft so it's still valid.
: Even if i love the idea... i think this may create a big mess in the lore, since many different developers may percieve the lore in different ways and then contradictions may happen. Will some games become "more canon" than others or what?
Well, i'd like to think that the narrative here would set things straight if they see something too out of context.
Rioter Comments
: Well... they are... hidden. Not being found is part of being hidden.
That point is well clear with me. But some one should be able to at least be able to make it to the meeting point if they are so well verse in hiding.
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Lowoman (EUNE)
: Seriously guys is there anyone who really likes Victorious Aatrox?
I don't even like current Aatrox. But I did look at his skin and he looks like a patched up doll from the 80's.
: >Releasing another champion after two weeks of Senna's release. We season 2 now boys
tbf, Senna's not easy yo play in game. So I'd say her popularity died down as quick as Taliyah's.
Rextreff (NA)
: What do you think each of the factions has to say about trans rights?
Particularly, It's really irrelevant to the lore.
: So now that Senna's out the door...
Maybe. You probably won't see any til January though
: What did they really change about Syndra?
The fact that she was sealed. Previous lore makes it so the teacher who seemingly was helping her with her power is what caused her to lift up the fortress. What was behind this rage was that everyone was against her and did not care about her goals. They weren't evil, just to continue growing her magical abilities. This new one.....sealing her made it seemed like she was some ancient evil entity. She didn't even have a real motive destroying noxian ships and forces. Why would she care about the invaders? The place she though was home betrayed her in her eyes. It was just a change to try and fit literally every Ionian champ in the invasion. Truth is, syndra didn't have to do anything to them. Her original story had nothing to do with them. It just feels forced and i honestly think they could have just left her alone. But the fact that they didn't made me throw down just about any hope i had that they would handle the lore reasonably. Which they are proving true by mixing irrelevant motives with certain champs currently.
Falrein (EUW)
: What are your biggest fears regarding your favourite champions/regions' future?
Honestly, my worries are already in fruition. And that was changing the basis of many champion's lore for the sake of change. I often think some random writer at Riot looks at a champ who needs an update and think " That's cool but I got something better." And completely disregard what fan's like about that champ. That came true for most champs, but when they touched syndra I just lost it. Syndra was my first 6300 champ because i like her lore a lot. I had died inside when they changed Aatrox and his race. The previous pr that led to aatrox about being a shadowed figure who in truth was very much important in history.(Ezreall's investigation about him?) I was in literal shock that they *still* didn't know how to connect Vi and Jinx with the Zaun update. And now it seems that they are willing to make mediocre lore just to fit some tropes(Senna being Kaisa's shadow.) At this point I'm not sure what the Narrative can do by them selves at the moment. Might have to wait for what arcane and those other games can do.
: I am a bit glad, tho. They ridiculed Zaun and Piltover a bit with these cards, like the Yordle chembarons in a trenchcoat, the T-Hex, the Cataclysm.... And now I got a grey zone to tell myself "these **could** be canon some day, when weird coincidences meet, but they are not right now." Good riddance.
The Yordle one might not be entirely too far fetched when something like mundo is there too. But it kinda sucks knowing that LoR in it's entirety may not even be canon. Maybe just another card game. I mean hearthstone takes direct references and is said to be canon.
: Project L is not in the league of legends universe. its completely separate are you suggesting league of legends put in a story mode for its characters?
Same universe and setting. The foundation is used. Just not direct canon story.....
: Soooo, basically all this stuff is the same like the ingame quotes from champions towards each other? That this would happen **if** the opportunity arises, but not every champion interacting with each other in the game have met in the lore yet?
.......Just a bit of let down. I can understand not every single thing can be canon. But that mean's even those noxian kids from the noxian deck might not even exists?...meh
Riot Pls (NA)
: Future Stories
As much as i'd like to read more about runeterra, I don't think i want to look forward for changes that could have done better with out changing a champions entire premise of lore. I'm not sure you guys look at the reaction of the community when certain champion lores are changed into a new identity. I honestly think you should try to be considerate of what drew fans to certain stories in the first place. What brought them to like a champion so much. Why they like those stories. All this before you show us something else you changed for seemingly the sake of change.
: Let's have a serious discussion about it. I am interested. Taliyah doesn't look like a girl or woman at all, she looks like a boy, or a young Donald Trump. I don't plan on marrying any of the characters from the game, so I hope that qualifies me as being able to have a serious discussion about this. Lets look at Darius and Garen for a second. Lets see how relatable they are. Garen is a Paladin Knight archtype who is huge and buff, and guess what, he is a Tank. Are there people like this in society we can relate to? I know one who is popular, The "Rock" Dwayne Johnson is a former Pro Football Player, and WWF/WWE Wrestler, and he is BUFF and HUGE, and RIPPED and we all watch his movies, (Well maybe not everyone, but most people do and like him) and why is he good and cool? Well he has charisma and he is huge. We can relate Darius and Garen to The Rock because in the Roles they have, they fit and are relatable. Garen is a big Man, and so is Darius, they are not big women, and the Rock wouldn't be good at playing in those roles if he was short, weak and skinny. Taliyah is what? A girl? Ok, when is the last time you saw a girl on a battle field? When is the last time you saw a girl who looked like a boy surfing on rocks on a battle field? Why does she cast magic but have to look like that? What is the point, and why is it good and relatable? Is the Rock manly looking? Does it fit? Is Garen? Is Darius? Lets go into it more, are Katarina and Akali intimidating characters? Do they look like women? Why are they intimidating but still look like women? What about illaoi, what is that supposed to look like, and why? Why is that good in any way? I have seen female assassin movies, and I have seen female characters written well like in the Avengers/Guardians of the Galaxy Nebula and her sister. Why are those characters good? I think they are good, and I don't think anyone wants to make Nebula their Waifu. Cassiopiea and Elise are ugly, but well done. Why? What is different here? Taliyah is just bad. They don't make skins for her because she is ugly in general, and people are annoyed by her being in the game probably so they don't use her out of spite and don't buy her skins either. That seems obvious to me, why is this not obvious to you?
I think you seem to be ignorant of the type of girl Taliyah is suppose to be. Firstly, Taliyah is suppose to resemble females born in just about any country around the Mediterranean. We can say the bottom half of the sea. So her features would largely represent females born from villages nearing rivers. Secondly, She's still a teenager, she's probably as young as 15 or 16. She's not suppose to compete with mature women like katarina. So how about you go educate your self about how women, and children, look in any of those river villages. This also applies to Illaoi. I don't even have to explain to you which area they took inspiration from to make illaoi's features. Your most concern is Taliyah, which i need to remind you your also 3 yrs late to complain about that anyways. In my honest opinion, when you take all that into consideration for taliyah you actually understand that taliyah is in fact not a bad looking girl. Just as you would expect a girl from brazil to look latina, as you would expect taliyah to match her origins. Which lets also remind you she's from a river village in shurima. Go educate yourself.
: I request riot looks into the battle bunny line of skins.
: > [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zOOcTZnE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-30T14:43:43.090+0000) > > {{champion:102}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:101}} > You hit me in the feels. > > Even though I have my puppy.{{champion:19}} Syndra really deserves a really good skin. She has some certainly decent ones like SKT, SG, and even Atlantean, but I mean she should get a really good skin. Honestly I could see her having gotten the Victorious skin ogre Orianna for very similar reasons that Ori got it in the first place.
: I would say of course there is. Status is important in Piltover, and fashion mirrors status very often. The elite will be up to date on the latest fashions and styles. They may not play out as modern day fashion shows, but there's no doubt events where designs and creations are presented, and the elite are there to admire and show off. "I saw Cady Harrington wearing army pants and flip flops so I bought army pants and flip fops"
Actually, Jinx's color story came to mind. That had to be an event where they dressed for success. So maybe a petticoat is something big there.
Jikker (NA)
: I would not be surprised given they are an advanced society. We know (whether it's still canon or not) that Jinx is wearing "the latest fashion in Zaun" so if there is fashion in Zaun, there has to be fashion in Piltover.
True. Then again, i feel like Zaun would be more style concerned than pilities. I'm curious about zaunite fashion and shocked Jinx would care lol
EdgeLady (NA)
: I don't know about fashion shows per say, but they likely have fairs where they show off the new fashions of the day.
I'm curious. Like I know tech is huge and they incorporate it into their fashion with augments. I really hope we can get a good fashion sense from Arcane when it is released.
Rioter Comments
: Curiosity question: are female characters made intentionally uglier over the years?
It's not that every girl has to have an hour glass figure and cherry shaped face. Which i do support. They seem to be making things more diverse. Although they can be a little less obnoxious about that. But i think you know why in retrospect. Not to mention activists consistently chastising riot for their designs.
: Well we recently got {{champion:518}} {{champion:246}} and are about to get Senna who are extremely pretty/attractive champions
I don't find Neeko to be attractive. She looks like an unfinished design to me. At least ..in the lizard girl archetype. But we already got the reason for that why she's like that.
tamaya (NA)
: About the new champion's looks: No matter how many people say fine sounding talk here, She won't be as popular champion as Xayah. When will she be given a dunkmaster skin?
There are numerous reasons why she will in fact be popular. That's why Riot don't care about the criticism towards Senna.
: They said she is a wraith, but she chooses to appear in a human form so she doesn't scare people/freak out Lucian. And she likely turns into a wraith in game. I know you'll hate it no matter what explanation I give you, because that's just how you people work, but that's why she's human. Fucking deal with it.
If multiple people see a problem, it isnt some collective thought process. There's genuinely an error somewhere. But this is how *blind praise* works for example.
: > [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WRO6woEa,comment-id=00020001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-25T07:37:35.748+0000) > > lol....sorry but that idea is so lame im surprised they decided to go with it. "She's somehow infused with life!" > All in all, it's a bad design in my opinion. I rest my case. It's really not dissimilar from Yorick or Maokai. They're also in a similar predicament, caught between life and death. The only difference is the medium that facilitates that. Bleesed Waters or Sennas' powerful, lingering soul.
The one thing that compares both Yorick and Maokai is that they were both on the isles when it happen. therefore it makes sense for them because the isles pre-corrupted magical energy was in that location..... In Senna's case it's random af, in fact she was somewhere different completely. And centuries after.....which would mean all the magic that was on the isles should have already been corrupt by the time a harrowing spawned near Senna. But somehow, according to your theory, she got the same energy maokai has. Extremely convenient and unexplained. It's almost as if they just made her for diversity reasons.
: > [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WRO6woEa,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-10-25T07:19:43.217+0000) > > ......there should be at least some hint in her voice that shes undead though. Don't really hear that one. On her abilities at the end of the video thats' there. Also she isn't undead at all, she's some where in between
lol....sorry but that idea is so lame im surprised they decided to go with it. "She's somehow infused with life!" All in all, it's a bad design in my opinion. I rest my case.
: Not everyone has to be a complete basket case, some scars are on the inside.
......there should be at least some hint in her voice that shes undead though. Don't really hear that one.
Manxxom (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WRO6woEa,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-25T03:42:18.101+0000) > > But that's to be given........Everything else she speaks with in a Jolly manner. Or a carefree manner...unfitting for someone dead for years... I don't know, I think its nice we didn't get a "edgy" character for a while now, and we have one entirely carefree (NO I will not include yuumi I will not dare to).
They don't have to be edgy. It should sound like it matches their background though. Otherwise it's going to be looked at differently. And Yuumi does counts. In fact the last dark theme champ we got was pyke. He's not really considered edgy like say, Kayne.
Manxxom (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WRO6woEa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-25T03:34:22.157+0000) > > Doesnt really sounds traumatized. > > So it's Kaisa 2.0 then.... Idk, she sounds royally ticked off at thresh. Wouldn't you be the same if someone stuck you in a lantern for a few years
But that's to be given........Everything else she speaks with in a Jolly manner. Or a carefree manner...unfitting for someone dead for years...
: Senna and Lucian's relationship is simply the best
Doesnt really sounds traumatized. So it's Kaisa 2.0 then....
: > [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=I9bmE9jy,comment-id=0007000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-24T23:27:23.764+0000) > > That's beside the point though. He still ran into lucian because lucian was hunting him. That would leave an impression. Lucian may be hunting him, but in the grand scheme, he's likely no more to Thresh than an annoying fly would be to us. Just a pest you need to swat away every once in a while. It's not worth getting the VO [or a new one] in for Thresh just to give him a couple lines towards Senna/Lucian when they are so objectively insignificant to him.
>The fly he seen the most I doubt there was anyone else who chased specifically after him
: Thresh never actively went out of his way to haunt Lucian. He has countless other victims, the way he tormented Lucian and Senna isn't unique.
That's beside the point though. He still ran into lucian because lucian was hunting him. That would leave an impression.
Reav3 (NA)
: We chose to not update any Thresh lines because we felt that ultimately Senna and Lucian aren't that important to Thresh, even though he is important to them. Senna and Lucian are just 2 people of many, many people that Thresh is messing with a tormenting, and making him care about them would actually diminish his character a bit, since he really doesn't care about 2 random people
Dude, he had people imprisoned for years and lucian is the live human he encountered the most out of all the yrs of his undead life, and senna escaped his prison. How are they not important to him...........Do you guys ever double think these choices?
SpyroTF (NA)
: Disappointed by Senna's voice interactions with Lucian
I'm not sure i can trust Riot to make a competent story line again at this point. They seem to somehow in someway make it less interesting with each update.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Lucian gets some personality! (Voice Over Update)
He sounds less badass and now lame imo
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Pls,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nMHgQUgW,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-10-21T20:02:50.650+0000) > > ...you monster. Well I may have an evil bone in my body but you have two spatulas as your summoners icon.. How convenient :') {{sticker:sg-poppy}}
I bet they taste like chicken.{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
: Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the Anniversary Gifts Riot is giving us?
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: The Card Game actually showed how interesting Elise is as a character.
Yea I didn't know she would dare keep spiders in Noxus. I assumed they would be waiting at the Isles.
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Jacksin (OCE)
: Nobody is saying it doesn't happen to some male champions. Although the males have a wide variety of body types and faces, yet female champions are majority very similar and almost always human. The male range is VERY vast. The female range doesn't even match the male. You say they're supposed to be the greatest warriors yet most of the females are just tiddy babes. Male champs aren't necessarily sexualised the same way female champs are. Males have more prominent "bad-assery" with abs and pecs, and hardly sexualised at all.
Just go look at Sylas and over think everything you said in this post.
: That wasn't a soul in his lantern. That was living person before the Ruination gave Thresh the ability to collect souls. Also, his new bio doesn't say he never tortured any of the living artifacts in his vault, and honestly I don't think its retconning that. Rather, Riot chose to skip those details in favor of telling us more important things. Part of Thresh becoming undead, meant that he wasn't confined to having to inflict physical pain on people in order to induce suffering. Rather, he realized that he could inflict psychological/emotional pain of a far greater magnitude by taking his time... time that he didn't previously have with mortal constraints.
But it proves thresh did physical torture and likely did it to the souls as well. Well up until now at least where he was retconned to benefit Senna.
: > [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=aucsgAa0,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-16T22:39:44.064+0000) > > lol ikr? Thresh just nonchalantly decides to let her go and doesnt get mad that someone just escaped his prison. It's unrealistic even for runeterra standards. Thresh is mad but smart. He always has a plan. Better to let fools think they won and then ruin them later. Or maybe he knows of Sennas condition and plans to use it against Lucian. After all driving ppl mad and planting ideas in their heads are what Thresh does.
Exactly how did he drive Senna mad? Nothing happened to her. It seems it actually benefited her the most from being inside the prison. Which is stupid.
: Actually, the lore never stated that he physically tortured the souls in his lantern. I always gathered that most of his torture was purely psychological, which imo, is the worst kind of torture.
Actually it did. He started with the mage that couldn't die. But Retcon.
: I've complained previously about Riot's constant retcons and how they lead to a completely meaningless world... ...but I feel you're overreacting. This is one instance where they actually did it right, for the most part. Senna had no character before now, so most everything related to her isn't really a retcon (other than in the strictest 'retroactive continuity' sense). The fact that Lucian and Senna met through the former's father is new, but it's not contradictory AFAIR. Senna and Lucian seeking a cure for attracting the Black Mist is also new, but it's not a significant change; more of an addition. (As I recall, previously Lucian and Senna just happened to be on the Shadow Isles?) The hardest bit to swallow imo is the bit at the end of Thresh's bio, wherein it states that Thresh "allowed" Senna to get away because he was intrigued by the fact that she escaped at all. While this *is* dumb, it's one error in an otherwise perfectly serviceable bio. Overall this has added to the characters and world rather than take away (Varus' family and Shyvana's dragon dad, anyone?) and has managed to advance the story at the same time.
So it doesn't bother you at all that thresh's character got changed just so senna can look pretty? He doesn't even torture people no more. I cant think of any other way why they would do that.
: Honestly all Demacians in the capital are potential mages, but they never notice it because of all the inhibiting materials in the walls. And well, I bet they think their innate talents as "miracles" that occasionally happen once they get outside.
I think some of the nobles are hiding there's is what i mean. It can't only be Lux.
: I mean, what if you bought it and saw something you don't wanna see?
It's a documentary. I dont think it's lore related. Moreso about the game it's self.
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