: Vel’Koz could be a Watcher
I _really_ don't think we should be adding any more people to Shurima for a while...
Fasmodey (EUW)
: > Ascension isn't a perfect process. Some were made who were 100% compatible (or as near as makes no difference) with the process and became the Nasus types, others were failures and became the Baccai types. Most were somewhere in the middle, divine and super powerful, but not perfect and not designed to live forever. One of Dinopawz's answers.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dsH6iOQ5,comment-id=00040001000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-06-29T19:38:06.145+0000) > > I agree that there are retcons even after the Big Retcon, or at least details that shouldn't had been ignored to this time, like the Ascended representing Celestial Concepts, but still, I think this lore has potential. I think you should give it time. I hated Aatrox's VO when I heard it first, but now I'm used to it. Could it be better? Definitely. But when I think about it, it is still better than what we had. > > Don't worry on Alien Invaders archetype. It is not something they can let go and give up. It will be used and It will be even better than Darkin. unless they all look like Martian Heimerdinger, or god forbid, the stereotypical and tired 'Xenomorph' but I'm pretty sure Kha'zix has that base covered at least.
: Personally, if we needed to tie Darkin into a different group to add connections I kind of think the Targonians make more sense. Think about it. Targ magic is about possessing people. Darkin magic is about possessing people. Darkin were said to be aliens, Targs are the closest you get to aliens outside of Sol and Bard. You could have had a group of fractures Targs decide to take a more active role in Runeterra and starting their wars that lead the rest of the Targs to betray and force their natural possession powers to be tied to weapons. That all seems to flow better to me, than evil Ascended.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Dienekes,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dsH6iOQ5,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-06-28T14:18:21.051+0000) > > Personally, if we needed to tie Darkin into a different group to add connections I kind of think the Targonians make more sense. > > Think about it. Targ magic is about possessing people. Darkin magic is about possessing people. Darkin were said to be aliens, Targs are the closest you get to aliens outside of Sol and Bard. > > You could have had a group of fractures Targs decide to take a more active role in Runeterra and starting their wars that lead the rest of the Targs to betray and force their natural possession powers to be tied to weapons. > > That all seems to flow better to me, than evil Ascended. Doesn't Aurelion Sol mention terrible beings from beyond? Why couldn't the Darkin have been this?
: The new lore: 1. Does a good job of explaining why they all look different. 2. Embeds them in the world of Runeterra - they now have links to Icathia (The Void), Mt Targon (Celestials), and Shurima (Ascended) in addition to the other Darkin. 3. Players now have empathy for the Darkin. It was very hard to relate to the Darkin simply because they were too inhuman. Now they're tragic heroes turned lost souls. If the Darkin kept their shit together for a few hundred years longer, they would have seen Shurima rise from the sands.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkSoul1994,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dsH6iOQ5,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-06-28T00:54:41.531+0000) > > The new lore: > > 1. Does a good job of explaining why they all look different. > 2. Embeds them in the world of Runeterra - they now have links to Icathia (The Void), Mt Targon (Celestials), and Shurima (Ascended) in addition to the other Darkin. > 3. Players now have empathy for the Darkin. It was very hard to relate to the Darkin simply because they were too inhuman. Now they're tragic heroes turned lost souls. If the Darkin kept their shit together for a few hundred years longer, they would have seen Shurima rise from the sands. Why _should_ we have empathy for the Darkin, though? Is this some new requirement for champions? Tell me how many people you think empathize with Cho'gath, Vel'koz, or Rek'sai?
Jaspers (EUW)
: One upvote for the pun at the end of the first paragraph alone. The classic retcon problem. The problem is bigger in comics, which I used to read a lot, things change as it's an ongoing plot. Riot are trying to form a world that is connected instead of just parts, fitting separate characters together in that world. Where characters like Nami and Rengar were retconned to be a new species but kept their identity, Darkin lost all of that. They are nothing but bad Ascended's now, they aren't their own race, own purpose. The origins of the Darkin shouldn't matter, no one cares how the X-men came to be, just that they are and they are trying to survive in a world that hates and fears them. In reality the 'Darkin' we have in game are horrors, men who were once god like, now monsters driven by vengeance and bloodlust because they were 'wronged' by a world they betrayed in the first place. This is what they should focus on, not the formation of what the Darkin were but what they are now. Of couse I agree, their identity has been lost. They aren't a last few remaining of a near immortal race out for vengeance against those who defeated them, they are a bunch of warring gods who went too far and are now crying about it.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dsH6iOQ5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-27T22:23:55.299+0000)They aren't a last few remaining of a near immortal race out for vengeance against those who defeated them, they are a bunch of warring gods who went too far and are now crying about it. Precisely. One feels like an almost noble cause, the other is about as enticing as a toddler throwing a tantrum because he broke his own toy.
Rioter Comments
AssauIto (NA)
: His old visuals were better. THey took away a lot of detail from him and made him wear a big thing on his head. Not good.
: What Varus could of potentially looked like if he had traditional Darkin colours
I'm hoping he gets some kind of model update to be more in-line with his new Darkin backstory, if not just new lines for his mental gay threeway. Also, as someone else mentioned, I see an opportunity for a 'full Darkin' skin. Tryndamere could even get something similar, where Aatrox has taken him as his vessel.
: A normal day of League
This is why Teambuilder was a success they cucked us all out of.
: In the wake of Aatrox's VGU: The aftermath of the Darkin Wars and the Rise of the Revenant
Rioter Comments
: Why is Fizz allowed to exist the way he does? Do we need to sign a petition to nerf him?
Man, y'all are a bunch of babies. Fizz is fine. It's like an endless cycle; You fight x champion. You lose to x champion. You complain x champion is OP before even looking at your own play and learning. Riot, for whatever god awful reason, listens to you children and nerfs X champion into unviability.
Lyte (NA)
: Rewards for positive play
Sounds cool! I don't play very often, or chat when I do as I am usually in skype, but I'm rather curious what will be pulled up!
Rioter Comments
: League of football
I propose we be able to kick Teemos into the enemy fountain.
: Are they going to Texture Rebalance Zhonya's sometime in the future?
Ah, I see the problem. You're using Zac as your example. Zac is going to stretch and distort any texture they use for Zhonyas simply because of the way his model works.
: The New Azir and Xerath Stories: Damn Good.
I cannot figure out where the fuck you people are getting all this lore from. All I see is a couple fucking sentences and a website with two videos.
: Lissandra laging near minion
I think it's trying to speak to us. I can't understand what it's saying, but it's damn sure trying.
: Try running the pingtest on a server in California (as that's where the NA server is located) and see if there's any significant difference. It could be that your ISP has a routing issue from OK to CA.
http://www.pingtest.net/result/108314696.png Pinged Los Angeles, as I'm pretty sure that's where Riot servers are.
: Packet loss, and some steps you can do to fix it.
http://www.pingtest.net/result/108291663.png I don't have anywhere NEAR this good of ping in game. I usually sit around 70-80 on a good day, but as of late it's been a constant 120. I honestly cannot play effectively on this ping. Is there anything here that would imply an issue on my end?
: Scariest Champ When Played Well
I liked seeing pre-rework Sions obliterate the enemy team when they least expected it. Everyone just brushed him off all "Pff, outdated champ. This'll be cake." Also had the honor of playing with a Yorik in the jungle that carried like Atlas. I've never seen a Yorik become scary. Ever.
: point and click stun with extreme bursts and tankyness even though full out damage
> point and click stun with extreme bursts and tankyness even though full out damage I think he means as a skin, like Trundle has.

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