Bloodnacht (EUNE)
: > Uhhh,,, Annie, Vel'koz and Lux I'll give you. One of those however was specifically designed as a support, the other is only played support, despite being designed as a mid laner. Then you have no idea what support means. 1. if you think the best CC is Death = 0 2. if you think the a support is some one who has more Dmg than the adc = wrong 3. if you think only 'cause those morons stated that Puke is support = wrong, he has 0 abilities for supporting + bugged hit boxes. 4. if you think dmg = Support, again Wrong.
Champs that are primarily played in the support role are supports. Your arbitrary definition of what a support is isn't relevant to the discussion.
: I don't hate the game, I hate its playerbase.
The thing is, most nice players just don't type so you never notice them. You only notice the guys screaming bloody murder.
: Quick Advice To Junglers
That also applies to laners though. Don't expect me to gank just because you're being shoved in. I ain't gonna try and gank an illaoi when you got 5% hp and 20 enemy minions ready to smack my ass.
: I just said "majority" XD there have been few points where they were not mandatory
You also said "marksman has of course been the only "required" class ever since meta started for league". Which implies all of league's existence, not majority.
: really? vayne was one of the harshest experiences of the season when a player played her well. She could take out half of your team by herself... and marksman has of course been the only "required" class ever since meta started for league... I don't want marksmen or AD carries removed, but for the majority of league's existence, they've had it the best of any class...
Vayne was only strong because there weren't any champs botlane that could really punish her early game. She's just the kind of champ that thrives when the meta isn't super aggressive/early game. And at this point we have had several metas (including now) where adc hasn't been mandatory botlane. Its no longer true to just say they have always been required every single game.
: season one through six with crit or life-steal or both-based marksmen... they were the meta then and tankbusters or hyper-carries were the best of them season 7 came around and only proved how powerful they were because BURST MARKSMEN came out of hiding and one-shot their opponents, making them pick or ban status (miss fortune, draven, etc) but instead people cried that they were weak while champs that highlighted how much damage was in the game thrived (kha zix, rengar, or anything that could get to bottom lane) then, to try and help the "weaker" marksmen, riot introduced the Ardent Censor meta
Season one through six adcs weren't dominating the meta. It was always either top/jungle/mid that had really problematic champs/classes. Adcs just spent all those seasons rotating between the top 3 adcs in botlane and the rest of the game was barely affected by those rotations. For the rest of the players in the game, as long as the strongest adcs were being picked, it entirely didnt matter which adcs were actually being picked. They just played their role in the game, which i guess some people don't like? And why were burst adcs good iin season 7? Lethality. The new ASSASSIN stat/items turned out to be too strong on those champs. The items got nerfed and suddenly burst marksmen weren't insane anymore. Its almost as if the items were breaking the champs, not that the champs themselves were powerful or busted. Riot "introduced" the ardent meta because of the lethality meta. It was to directly counter the the types of champs that loved lethality, assassin, items. And guess what, adc's weren't the problem in the ardent meta. Its literally in the name. Ardent, and by extension, enchanter supports were too powerful and too good at their jobs. And their jobs were to keep the adc alive and increase the adc's strength. Adc became seen as "op" because an entirely separate class was actually op. For whatever reason, people just forget that supports exist and refuse to believe that supports can be too strong. I'll never understand it. Some people are just hell bent on removing adc from the game for whatever reason, even when adcs aren't even close to being balance issues. This anti-adc circlejerk is just preventing actual balance issues from being fixed.
: > [{quoted}](name=MegaSpaceJX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=31EGYyEc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-26T14:56:49.569+0000) > > If hashshinshin who hates adcs thinks adcs are weak this post shouldn't even be a thing. even if that was correct, we have seen what happens when they arent weak. season 6, 7 and the first half of season 8 was terrible for everyone who didnt play adc. the problem with adc is that range doesnt have a mechanic to counterbalance in this game. no turn rate or something similar, means the only way adc are balanced is by factoring their range into the power budget of their stats. but since range is so huge in terms of power, they either cant deal a crazy amount of damage, in which case they arent carries, or they have to be so squishy that they have to almost immediately die in fights. i mean just look at dark harvest this preseason and klepto last preseason. ranged champions stack both runes twice as fast when they arent nerfed for ranged auto attacks in some form. even after klepto nerfs, the strongest users were still ezreal and gangplank with his q effectively being a ranged auto attack. you also had viktor, and pre rework swain who abused the shit out of the rune. in almost all cases it was ranged champions who used the rune to the most effect. now its the same with dark harvest. both cases arent fun for adc to play. but if they did have damage and the survivability to use it, then theyre automatically overtuned as fuck because no one can deal with them.
The funny thing is that its almost never adcs themselves that are op. Jhin/lucian op during lethality meta? Oh wait thats cuz lethality was busted. Hypercarry adc's op during ardent meta? Oh wait thats cuz ardent/enchanter supports made adc's immortal. Now that i think about it, i don't think there has ever really been an "adc meta". Its always something else in the game that is overtuned that makes em stronger. But nah lets just blanket blame adcs and thier playerbase.
Moody P (NA)
: PepeHands not again
He can be a bit too oppressive when he gets fed or his early damage is strong, so i can see why people would want to avoid buffing him. When was op i was basically forced to play high self peel adc's since he would just run down any even slightly immobile adcs. BUT, as someone who used to play voli a lot, i think one buff he could get is to his passive. Imo he just dies too quickly early game to make use of his passive, so they could change his passive to give him part of it instantly. Other than that they might give him slight defense buffs, but please don't touch his damage.
: Why Ezreal Support isn't just a "Non-meta pick".
Ezreal support was actually doable with his old w and with the old ap support item. I suppose you could rush spooky ghosts, but its so much riskier/difficult since he has to land his q to do ANYTHING in lane. If you wanted to go ad i think you would have to just rush a gauntlet and skip tear item entirely. And even if it can work at all, it would be extremely niche at best. But his new w just kinda kills ez support. Back then i used to play ez support and get the most damage in the game. It was actually pretty oppressive in some matchups.
: What the hell? Wasn't jungle exp already nerfed? AND the items? I cant even jungle anymore because of both of those nerfs. Literally, I see jungles 3 levels behind when they gank, when they have just been farming, only to be an ez target. It's sad. Idk why they want to nerf jungle even more, it's so bad right now I refuse to jungle.
Unless you are talking about morde jungle, jungle is the strongest role right now.
: > [{quoted}](name=Grokmir the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5R8782qH,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-10T17:42:39.933+0000) > > Adc's cried becuase ardent meta was dumb, not because they thought they were weak or something lmao. No ADC cried about it being boring/dumb. They cried because they could die to Assassins roaming during laning phase. The one thing that's never changed about the game since i started playing towards the end of s5 is ADC mains will always say their role sucks. So listening to ADC mains about role balance is pointless.
So we agree on your first sentence i guess? Idk why you said no in there. And adc's only largely cried about assassins as a whole during the lethality meta. You know, when assassins were really strong and the only adc's that could compete were ones that also abused lethality (and ezreal, who built to counter assassins). There have been other times, but as far as i know its not often that we are in a true assassin meta. And yeah some adc's will always say adcs are bad....well shit adc's at least. But that applies to pretty much every role in the game. I've seen some mages complain even when like 9/10 best mid lane champs are mages. I've seen some assassins complain about talon being weak when he had like a 54% winrate. There's always this or that support that's complaining about enchanters being weak or poke being weak or whatever. And for top there is hashinshin (no need to explain). My point is that SOME people will falsely complain about their champs/roles being weak because they don't actually know how to play the role/champ. They are BAD PLAYERS, not the entire/majority player base of those roles/champs. And to be clear, I don't even fully agree with the op of the thread. Adc's are actually very relevant, but they are lacking in the individual agency department. Which might not be a bad thing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aurelion Smõl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5R8782qH,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T07:03:00.891+0000) > > We don't, but apparently that's just us crying for non-reasons. ADC cried non-stop during Ardent meta. They were still meming ADC in 2017. The meta when literally only thing that matted was Janna pressing shield on the ADC while the ADC 2 v 8ed ever game and nobody else even got to play past 8 mins ADCs cried about their role.
Adc's cried becuase ardent meta was dumb, not because they thought they were weak or something lmao.
: I don't understand adc?
Adc is an extremely team reliant role. Which makes it really hard to carry with in solo queue. I'd suggest maining jungle. If you can get jungle down, it is by far the easiest role to climb with (and it is pretty much every season) + it is the role with the most synergy with pretty much every other role, so you can duo with anyone and still have great synergy. You can climb while maining adc, but it'll talk a lot more effort/grinding.
: > [{quoted}](name=Grokmir the bold,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p2YYgFsk,comment-id=0024,timestamp=2018-10-31T16:19:32.691+0000) > > 1. No, other roles don't have to know how to play every type of champ that goes into their role. In fact i don't personally know anyone that seriously does that. Most of my mid lane friends are either one tricks or mage mains and they NEVER play anything else. > > 2. Why is it such a problem that champs are being played in their role? Why do we need to have mages or bruisers in the botlane carry slot when they already have thier lanes? Will people not stop screaming about botlane diversity until adc's aren't played and mage/brusiers are able to play every single role? Because they are *factually* not, and the "waaaahhh but ADCs only work in bot lane waaaahhhh" is ALSO *factually* not true. ADCs are just too busy being used to special treatment that being forced to adapt like everyone else has had to for literally years now is a mindblowing concept to them. Several ADCs make for very strong mid or top laners, and a few of them make decent or strong junglers too. It's just harder than having a support constantly babysit you and Riot constantly help you. Get over it and adapt. People don't want the "ADC in bot only" meta back because ADC players are entitled little shitheads that think the whole game revolves around them, because Riot keeps telling everyone "Everything revolves around ADCs" through their balance and design decisions. Now there's finally some change there and suddenly all the ADC players are unsurprisingly REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-ing at it cuz they're the people whose mommies told them they're special and unique a few too many times.
> [{quoted}](name=Shinjusuke,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p2YYgFsk,comment-id=00240000,timestamp=2018-10-31T19:17:21.662+0000) > > Because they are *factually* not, and the "waaaahhh but ADCs only work in bot lane waaaahhhh" is ALSO *factually* not true. > ADCs are just too busy being used to special treatment that being forced to adapt like everyone else has had to for literally years now is a mindblowing concept to them. > > Several ADCs make for very strong mid or top laners, and a few of them make decent or strong junglers too. > It's just harder than having a support constantly babysit you and Riot constantly help you. Get over it and adapt. > > People don't want the "ADC in bot only" meta back because ADC players are entitled little shitheads that think the whole game revolves around them, because Riot keeps telling everyone "Everything revolves around ADCs" through their balance and design decisions. Now there's finally some change there and suddenly all the ADC players are unsurprisingly REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-ing at it cuz they're the people whose mommies told them they're special and unique a few too many times. What adcs are even being played mid or top? Even corki, the ONLY adc that is "supposed" to go mid isn't seeing any play mid. Or anywhere for that matter. Name ANY adc that is seeing ANY significant amount of play outside of a single role. Jungler adcs ONLY play jungle. Corki ONLY sees play mid if anywhere. And all the rest ONLY see play botlane outside of extremely fringe situations *cough* twitch jungle cheese *cough*. So 99.9% of the time, the only place botlane adc's can go is botlane. There are about as many nonadc's seeing play botlane than there are botlane adc's seeing play anywhere else. Which is to say, almost none. Anyways i just find the adc shit talking circlejerk pretty funny tbh. Feel free to back up your side with some kind of stat rather than emotions.
CIayman (NA)
: I like how everyone except ADCs says that riot favors ADCs
1. No, other roles don't have to know how to play every type of champ that goes into their role. In fact i don't personally know anyone that seriously does that. Most of my mid lane friends are either one tricks or mage mains and they NEVER play anything else. 2. Why is it such a problem that champs are being played in their role? Why do we need to have mages or bruisers in the botlane carry slot when they already have thier lanes? Will people not stop screaming about botlane diversity until adc's aren't played and mage/brusiers are able to play every single role?
: Share your OWN thoughts on how you'd nerf Kai'Sa, Graves, Irelia, Aatrox, Urgot & Akali
Kaisa - slightly nerf her numbers over and over until she is balanced. Graves - remove knockback on autos then buff if necessary. Akali - remove true stealth. Irelia - increase mana costs. Particularly her q. Aatrox - nerf healing OR q damage. Probably q damage. Urgot - idk nerf his tankiness i guess.
: Anyone else having issues with Invisible Health Packs in ARAM?
I think a lot of stuff is going invisible now. I was having trouble with gragas q disappearing and scuttle's vision not showing up.
kargish (EUW)
: Hold on a second
I think they meant it as "even for OTHER early game-oriented champions". Like he's taking over too reliably vs someone like lee sin or nidalee. That or rito is dumb dumb.
: Did you know that some people actually believe that AP items are superior to AD items?
Individually a lot of mage items are better than ad items. But a lot of ad items just synergize really well with each other or with certain kits. Or they are literally only good with other ad items
Thak1ng (EUW)
: Honor 3 and instant 14 days suspension
Based on your chatlogs i don't think you know what the words "chill" and "cool" mean...
Rαy (EUW)
: Daniel Z. Klein not working for Riot Games anymore
Maybe now riot can move in a positive direction instead of trying to mask discrimination with more discrimination.
: I've had an opinion about Nasus ever since I first started playing him years ago. There are two types of Nasus players. Selfish gits who build Trinity Force and lose True Nasus players who build Iceborn Gauntlet and win It's actually very interesting to see it happen game after game. The key to this, I think, is that Iceborn players have a mentality of "I am an unmoveable wall for my team. I will hold these bastards down and feed my team gold." Tri-Force players meanwhile are obsessed with getting kills and doing big Q damage. Another important note to hit on is the difference in movement abilities of the items. Trinity force speeds Nasus up enabling him to chase- but what of his team? Iceborn meanwhile slows enemies, allowing Nasus _and his team_ to keep up with his target. People always want to focus on his fighting power but seem to forget his team utility. Reducing armor for your adc/assassins is great, and withering an assassin trying to go after your backline is superb. But nah, "gotta get those Q chunks." I don't play Nasus often any more because I get bored with winning streaks and I want to learn new champs, but my kit "essentials" were almost always {{summoner:3}} {{summoner:6}} {{item:3025}} . I took a break for a couple years and if I were to Nasus again I'd probably still do those, but maybe add in a {{item:3742}} or a {{item:3800}} .
The key here i think is the "took a break for a couple years" part. Nasus has in the past been objectively better with iceborn (mostly when iceborn was just better than it now.) At the moment Trinity is better in most situations, but against full ad comps, then iceborn is a perfectly fine option too. And you need to have tp + flash or ghost. Personally I think flash is just way better than ghost, but some people still run ghost. Also being a selfish git is a playstyle, not a buildpath.
: > [{quoted}](name=Child of the Pit,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWbh9Uka,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-18T15:06:28.469+0000) > > Nah, Intro bots is even better Intro bots should show what bronze 5 is like
> [{quoted}](name=5000000000000000,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWbh9Uka,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2018-08-18T16:52:49.619+0000) > > Intro bots should show what bronze 5 is like it already does. Minus the flaming.
: Bard is going to be nerfed so hard next patch...
Honestly I'm kinda fine with damage nerfs to bard if they would just make his shrines not just a speedboost late game. My idea is having them scale with his chimes. But just increasing the heal late would be fine. And I don't run celerity anyways so its not too bad.
: How do you get the mentality necessary to play ranked with trolls?
Only thing you can do is stop caring about the outcome of a single game so much. The more you care = the more you tilt = the more you lose/go on lose streaks = more tilt. Its a painful cycle. Just shove trolls out of your memory and move on.
: Do people play the champs they complain about?
Well im m7 with fizz and think anyone who plays him should be perma'd.
: What do I do when my adc becomes toxic
I'd leave and gank top/mid and help the jungler. That kind of adc isn't going to carry anyways so might as well get someone else fed.
: ARAM MUST BE HOTFIXED NOW NOW NOOOW ! Please !
> [{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Xc3yA84F,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-25T19:04:14.212+0000) > > Of course I myself had to abuse , not had to but it just happened , got {{champion:92}} in aram , used {{summoner:39}} and dashed through enemies and used half of my kit vs 5 enemies and deleted them , for me I see it normally , but enemies see nothing , they only realize that suddenly they can't move and their HP is gone Its not quite that bad, but it is pretty shitty. Talon is the worst offender that I've seen so far.
: I don't think I've ever seen the player morale this low
All they need to do to fix the game is give a 500 range dash to all of morde's abilities. Bam the meta is fixed, esports is rejuvenated, and there's an influx of new players. Also toxicity and trolling drops to 0.
: I've noticed that most people who say ranked is trash are Silver or Bronze
: Think ABOUT IT: you were a doctor who saved more than 100 life. One day, you got a bad mood and killed a man with a gun and a bullet, yes just one bullet. so .....
I really wish people could come up with actually decent analogies rather than just equating 20-ish lines of bad language and insults to murder and felonies. Like does that make sense? I don't mind if you disagree with me, just do so with a little logic please.
Kei143 (NA)
: Did you know that asking / threatening for reports is considered toxic as well? Though its severity is classified as minor, it still builds up and counts towards your punishment.
Riot has stated several times that that is not the case. At least the asking part. I suppose threatening is reportable in any situation, but asking is not.
: > [{quoted}](name=Grokmir the bold,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=w73pgdZX,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-11T18:35:06.049+0000) > > The problem is that one toxic game is enough to to get punished, so even though I was honorable in multiple thousands of games and have never been punished before, I lose it all from a single mistake. > > Be honorable in 99% of your games and you can get honor 5, but that 1% toxicity is enough to get you punished. > > And in my case the percent is even more skewed. "I havent committed a crime once in my life, so on my 75th birthday i should be allowed to rob a bank"
If you really want to criminalize people for 30 ish minutes of slightly bad behavior, then by all means go ahead. I, on the other hand, don't think your comparison is even remotely applicable to the situation. A better one would be saying its okay to let someone off for driving 5 mph over the speed limit on their first offense.
Ifneth (NA)
: They were posted by another user in this thread.
No they weren't. I just posted my chat logs about an hour ago.
Kei143 (NA)
: You won't get punished for this game alone. There HAS to be some history building up to this level. You can ask Riot support how many games you were validly reported in and they'd be able to tell you whether it was a consistent thing.
Yeah I submitted a ticket, but they haven't gotten around to it yet. And I can think of maybe one other game that could have possibly been a valid report, but it was way more tame than this chat log. Other than that I can't think of any toxic games i have had for months.
: > [{quoted}](name=Grokmir the bold,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=w73pgdZX,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-11T08:31:10.190+0000) > > Yeah i think its a bit much to lose all honor progress from a mere chat restriction, especially on first offense. > > I could see them putting me down a level, but all the way to 1 is just silly. "Competitive play should reward positive sportsmanship just as much as they reward great play" - from the Honor/chat restriction FAQ people getting chat restrictions usually dont fall into the "good sportsmanship" category
The problem is that one toxic game is enough to to get punished, so even though I was honorable in multiple thousands of games and have never been punished before, I lose it all from a single mistake. Be honorable in 99% of your games and you can get honor 5, but that 1% toxicity is enough to get you punished. And in my case the percent is even more skewed.
Kei143 (NA)
: You can either relog from the client to see your chatlogs or you can submit a ticket to https://support.riotgames.com and ask for them.
Yeah I just got them on the client it wasn't showing up for some reason. I'll post them here, but I just wanna say to anyone reading I know I was toxic in this game, the point is that I was punished for only this one game. Not consistent toxicity, I'm not usually like this. So you guys don't have to flame me about it too lol. And in case you're wondering, this is all defensive toxicity, but it doesn't matter. Toxic is toxic. Game 1 In-Game Grokmir the bold: ? Grokmir the bold: r u guys bronze Grokmir the bold: ? Grokmir the bold: i died Grokmir the bold: when he dove you Grokmir the bold: I literally Grokmir the bold: died Grokmir the bold: right then Grokmir the bold: ur Grokmir the bold: actually bronze Grokmir the bold: so bronze Grokmir the bold: jesus Grokmir the bold: this top is heavy as lead Grokmir the bold: i know how to play any champ better than you can play ur main Grokmir the bold: my mmr must have dropped really hard to be put with ou monkeys LUL Grokmir the bold: trash Grokmir the bold: seriously though what rank r u guys Grokmir the bold: i mean rn im unranked in solo so yeah prob LUL Grokmir the bold: im gold in flex after placements Grokmir the bold: fucking lmao Grokmir the bold: what Grokmir the bold: i've ganked 3 times Grokmir the bold: hard to gank for useless laners tho Grokmir the bold: jhin ur the second worst on the team Grokmir the bold: dont know what you're talking about Grokmir the bold: no its mundo Grokmir the bold: nice lane Grokmir the bold: LOL Grokmir the bold: only d4? Grokmir the bold: fucking garbage Grokmir the bold: and you're stupid af Grokmir the bold: maybe uninstall league? Grokmir the bold: ? Post-Game Grokmir the bold: yo report mundo/jhin/lb Grokmir the bold: toxic af Grokmir the bold: ? Grokmir the bold: did you read chat? Grokmir the bold: mundo flamed me when i didnt gank Grokmir the bold: when i was dead Grokmir the bold: LOL Grokmir the bold: mundo is actually Grokmir the bold: legit retard Grokmir the bold: i only flame flamers and idiots Grokmir the bold: good Grokmir the bold: you guys all get banned then Grokmir the bold: enjoy Grokmir the bold: toxic shitters Grokmir the bold: literally flammed me all game Grokmir the bold: for no reason
Ifneth (NA)
: I read your chat logs. Justice was served. Edit: I thought I read his chat logs, but they were someone else’s. Edit 2: I still think so after reading his actual logs, which the OP has now posted.
Where did u find my chat logs tho.
: Well, chat restrictions don't often occur after one match, unless the offense was severe (and if it were that severe, you likely would have skipped to a suspension). You could reach out to Player Support to see if they can pull your recent chat logs, and perhaps we may see an underlying trend with your behavior. And if you believe that the system may have applied the chat restriction in error, you could bring that up with Player Support as well. The moral of the story is pretty on point, though. Retaliation is no excuse for negative behavior, and you have the potential to lose just as much, if not more, than the other folks who are harassing you. Best course of action is to ignore them, report, and move on. Best of luck on the honor climb! > Accounts that show signs of **persistent negative behavior** are often first punished with chat restrictions. **Read more:** https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752984-Chat-Restrictions
Well apparently I'm a rare case then. I got my chat logs and it only shows one game on it.
: Not the amount of swearwords matter, it's the severity. I call my guys bad and awful a lot (e.g. not picking up my heal shrines but spam-ping assist) and nothing happens. EDIT: Just figured out you flamed a Bard. That was not me btw. x) Looks like you either got into a manual audit, or your "cacner" (cancer) still triggered it. I mean, you basically gave up (report reason) and flamed (report reason). Being found guilty in several ways (e.g. feeding plus flaming plus giving up) can also add up. * Please just end * im done * just ff * game is done (giving up, GRIEFING reason, pretty much guilty for that) * you are an idiot (flame) * shit, fuck, etc. (negativity) * personal insults (being mentally Bronze) You got what you deserved. In fact, it's actually pretty good you got busted. If you were Honor 5 but "suddenly" lose your cool like this, how did you even manage it? The first things a honour 5 person says is all the stuff above? Tell it to the marines, dude.
Yep just received my chat logs. Had literally nothing to do with a bard.
Jo0o (NA)
: Sucks that you went from 5 to 1, but the alternative would be to allow players to "bank" leniency. A community where honor 5 players know that they can get away with flaming folks without facing the same consequences as players at a lower honor level isn't healthy.
I understand that, but is it really fair to punish people who have been honorable enough to get to high honor levels without being punished to completely remove all of that effort from one or two toxic games? Isn't that the same reason leaver buster doesn't punish people unless they consistently leave games? I'm not saying that honor 5's should be immune, I'm just saying the punishment is too harsh in its current form.
: Not the amount of swearwords matter, it's the severity. I call my guys bad and awful a lot (e.g. not picking up my heal shrines but spam-ping assist) and nothing happens. EDIT: Just figured out you flamed a Bard. That was not me btw. x) Looks like you either got into a manual audit, or your "cacner" (cancer) still triggered it. I mean, you basically gave up (report reason) and flamed (report reason). Being found guilty in several ways (e.g. feeding plus flaming plus giving up) can also add up. * Please just end * im done * just ff * game is done (giving up, GRIEFING reason, pretty much guilty for that) * you are an idiot (flame) * shit, fuck, etc. (negativity) * personal insults (being mentally Bronze) You got what you deserved. In fact, it's actually pretty good you got busted. If you were Honor 5 but "suddenly" lose your cool like this, how did you even manage it? The first things a honour 5 person says is all the stuff above? Tell it to the marines, dude.
I don't remember flaming a bard. And there certainly wasn't a bard in the game in question. And you get honor 5 by being honorable in most of your names. Unfortunately the punishment system doesn't care about the 99% of games where I was honorable or neutral. The two systems are completely seperate and do not interact until any kind of punishment is given out.
Kei143 (NA)
: > ama * Can you post your chatlogs for reference? * Did you think that being h5 would make you immune to toxicity? * How many games do you play a week? * If you had the choice to improve one thing of the behavioral system, what would it be?
I don't think I have them. No obviously not. I just mentioned it becuase it shows I'm honorable enough to get honored a lot. Not a lot anymore. And I just think losing all honor to a chat restriction is a bit harsh.
WøOxer (EUW)
: Wait wait... LOL. U got down to lvl 1 from lvl 5 just for one chat restriction? And they wan't people to stop flaming and abusive? LOL I would be more toxic right now if I lost instantly 4 levels.
Yeah i think its a bit much to lose all honor progress from a mere chat restriction, especially on first offense. I could see them putting me down a level, but all the way to 1 is just silly.
: Well, chat restrictions don't often occur after one match, unless the offense was severe (and if it were that severe, you likely would have skipped to a suspension). You could reach out to Player Support to see if they can pull your recent chat logs, and perhaps we may see an underlying trend with your behavior. And if you believe that the system may have applied the chat restriction in error, you could bring that up with Player Support as well. The moral of the story is pretty on point, though. Retaliation is no excuse for negative behavior, and you have the potential to lose just as much, if not more, than the other folks who are harassing you. Best course of action is to ignore them, report, and move on. Best of luck on the honor climb! > Accounts that show signs of **persistent negative behavior** are often first punished with chat restrictions. **Read more:** https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752984-Chat-Restrictions
Yeah I'll probably send in a ticket. I don't feel like I'm a toxic person, seeing as how I made it to honor 5 two seasons in a row and have never been punished before, but maybe I'm just having a bad month or something. Though I do very rarely get into toxic shit flinging contests when I get someone really really rude on my team. Really the main reason I made the thread though is I thought it was really funny that I got my first ever punishment mere hours after getting to honor 5 xd.
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: The only % health true damage that exists in the game is on Fiora's vitals (passive + R) and Vayne W (technically also Garen R if you're the villain, but that's %missing). If neither is picked, there is no %health true damage being dealt. The vast majority of true damage in the game is being dealt by Marksmen that build IE, and top laners that take the Conqueror rune. The conqueror rune converts 20% of damage dealt to true damage, lasting for 3 seconds (melee champions refresh it) after being in combat for 4 seconds. If you disengage off of a conqueror champion, or keep trades with them below 4 seconds, they won't get much damage out of it. Infinity Edge gives 15% of crit damage as true damage now, because its previous iteration that increased crit damage was busted, because it turned crit marksmen into assassins, except they always had their damage up and couldn't miss it since it wasn't reliant on abilities. There's also red smite, which acts like a mini-exhaust and causes AAs to apply a small true damage dot, but you need to be an AA focused jungler to really get the most out of it.
Technically with conqueror, any form of percent health damage can be percent health true damage. Idk if there are any champs that can abuse that, but its there.
: 20 bans doesn't seem like a bad idea right now
What we need is 10 bans per player and anytime there is a duplicate ban and if there is a main of that champion in the game, they have a 10% chance per ban of their champ to be permabanned on the spot. 100% will fix the meta, the game, and the resports.
: Why does every player copy off the meta?
Well if you're building banner now they should only be impressed.
: Not at all correct, sir. I main her, and I either have to run Biscuits or start coin to deal with mana issues.
I mean i literally saw it happen in a game. And idk if she ran Biscuits or not, but she most certainly did not need coin. But she basically spammed up until her first back at like 8-9 minutes.
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