: I mean... a slow, relatively immobile bruiser that absolutely mauls squishies that can't get away, but has serious trouble catching highly mobile folks... Isn't that describing most of the juggernaut class as a whole? {{champion:266}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:83}}
> [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4to8oERv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-12T19:03:06.691+0000) > > I mean... a slow, relatively immobile bruiser that absolutely mauls squishies that can't get away, but has serious trouble catching highly mobile folks... Isn't that describing most of the juggernaut class as a whole? {{champion:266}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:83}} This is exactly how juggernauts are meant to be lol
: Buy a QSS it cancels out mordekaiser's ult
Two words: Crowd control, use it against morde if you want him to suffer
Kai Guy (NA)
: I did not mind a reasonable wait but I had a very hard time convincing my friends to stick around for them. That was when it was around 6-8 min for a match. I personally ended up giving up on the que after a few back to back 15+ min And Riot killed it a few weeks after I stopped.
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=icf5pfoa,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-12T22:28:27.624+0000) > > I did not mind a reasonable wait but I had a very hard time convincing my friends to stick around for them. That was when it was around 6-8 min for a match. I personally ended up giving up on the que after a few back to back 15+ min And Riot killed it a few weeks after I stopped. Well even now queue times get long to the point that streamers are watching videos while waiting for matches, just how it is unfortunately
Kai Guy (NA)
: Teambuilder was a thing till Que times killed the que. One of the reason Riots MM has a priority on short que times.
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=icf5pfoa,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-12T19:41:12.330+0000) > > Teambuilder was a thing till Que times killed the que. > > One of the reason Riots MM has a priority on short que times. Queue times killed it? Really? Because with how draft pick is sometimes it takes a few minutes to get a match, and people constantly dodge because they aren't allowed to play what they want. Just make us pick characters before we enter queue, in the long run its faster and everyone would be happier.
: It's what blind pick should be.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=icf5pfoa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-12T19:40:42.629+0000) > > It's what blind pick should be. Yeah and the only people who play blind are noobs that haven't unlocked draft yet. This is the most inconvenient game studio and game client I've ever seen
H00KIE (NA)
: Gamemode idea: Pick your role and character BEFORE entering queue?
Heroes of the storm can do it, let us pick characters before queue, why can't this game?
Rioter Comments
Kanzler (NA)
: I'm sitting on at least 100 champion tokens that I don't bother crafting because it is just so tedious.
> [{quoted}](name=Kanzler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dYOruH1o,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-11T13:34:02.799+0000) > > I'm sitting on at least 100 champion tokens that I don't bother crafting because it is just so tedious. I did like 10 and gave up lol
Rioter Comments
YaraUwU (NA)
: Just a quick thought for anyone that thinks Qiyana is the dullest champion to date. Kai'sa exists.
"Riot is original and intuitive! I mean there's only like umphteen champions all have the same ultimate (executes), but they're still original and intuitive"! Ah yes we totally needed more high AD burst assassins, as if there are not 15 of them already.
Antenora (EUW)
: Because Firecracker Jinx is the worst Firecracker skin in the game rn in terms of quality.
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nVuarYLu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-08T11:03:26.338+0000) > > Because Firecracker Jinx is the worst Firecracker skin in the game rn in terms of quality. Seriously, yet it's the only one available year around. They need to do something about this crap
H00KIE (NA)
: Why is everyone firecracker skin but Jinx's exclusive?
Some champs have 90 percent exclusive skins, like Sejuani, and it's kind of dumb. At least give me the chance to pick from more than 3 skins for sej because the other like 7 are not available
Rioter Comments
: my guess is between two weeks and a month. if it hit the pbe today, it should be soon.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mevVvRoO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-28T21:49:55.776+0000) > > my guess is between two weeks and a month. > > if it hit the pbe today, it should be soon. Oh nice, I like how he is now. He's like a badass version of Dota's Legion Commander
Rioter Comments
: Morde is simply perfect.
When is the rework going on live servers?
usul1202 (NA)
: They do lose money because you would never buy that yi skin, you would consider the fid skin. So the potential money they would have made from you buying a fid skin is now gone. Riot would now only make money off of skin tiers with super low drop rates.
> [{quoted}](name=usul1202,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bYs31VM5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-11T16:37:55.899+0000) > > They do lose money because you would never buy that yi skin, you would consider the fid skin. So the potential money they would have made from you buying a fid skin is now gone. Riot would now only make money off of skin tiers with super low drop rates. That doesn't make any sense. You'd be trading for a skin shard that is the same value, and you wouldn't be earning anything faster than before.
H00KIE (NA)
: Suggestion: Make it so we can trade skin shards for a skin shard of the same value?
It's not like Riot would lose money or anything, you'd get the exact same amount of free stuff... you'd just be able to turn that free stuff into free stuff that you actually want?
Rioter Comments
: Conqueror is a result of the same kind of oversight in design logic that created 4.20 Weedwick.
Remove runes entirely. Ingame items in the shop that you buy during matches are all that should be affecting a champion. No other MOBA has this weird system of creating a build for the character outside of the match, no idea why this games devs thought this was ever necessary. Remove it entirely.
H00KIE (NA)
: Can we make supports actually supports and not just second ADC's?
Oh I see how you got that, I didn't clarify which ones do provide utility in Pika's post. Let me just consult my encyclopedia of... oh wait I don't care. Bottom line, supports should be supporting. Not melting.
: > [{quoted}](name=H00KIE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJELMrub,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T16:01:35.445+0000) > > All of the characters you listed provided utility to the team other than just damage output lol. You complained about Vel'koz in the first post, now you're saying he provides utility. Put the salt shaker away and play the game. If mage supports beat your ass, learn how to play against them. It's your only actual option to losing.
> [{quoted}](name=Spiffy McBang,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJELMrub,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T16:15:21.083+0000) > > You complained about Vel'koz in the first post, now you're saying he provides utility. Put the salt shaker away and play the game. If mage supports beat your ass, learn how to play against them. It's your only actual option to losing. Velkoz doesn't supply utility. Don't put words in my mouth lol
: Can we do something about creep block
Team collision of any kind in any game, whether it be minions or your teammates, is garbage. There is absolutely zero reason for this to exist in a game like this other than for muh realism.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Someone doesnt know what a support is or does.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJELMrub,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-07T15:39:15.956+0000) > > Someone doesnt know what a support is or does. I demonstrated pretty clearly I know what a support is and does. It's well defined in every MOBA but this one. In this one people pick characters with nothing but DPS under their belt and they're still considered 'supports' for absolutely no reason and there's no good argument as to why they are supports.
: > [{quoted}](name=H00KIE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJELMrub,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-07T13:57:42.098+0000) > > Ward bots? Walking bags of gold? What > > Did you even read my post? Supports should be providing utility to the team, rather than being big damage dealers. That's what support means. Every other MOBA with support roles actually has characters that support who take the role. > > Only thing I can think of is locking support characters to the support role, as in when you're chosen to play support you can only play the characters riot considers to be supports. i guess Alistar and Braum are the same as Velkoz and Zyra I guess Thresh and Blitz are the same as Pyke and Leona I guess Sona and Nami are the same Shen and Kench All of them are just riot telling you they are supports and all of them are just damage dealers that offer no utility and only damage
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJELMrub,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T14:16:42.609+0000) > > i guess Alistar and Braum are the same as Velkoz and Zyra > I guess Thresh and Blitz are the same as Pyke and Leona > I guess Sona and Nami are the same Shen and Kench > > All of them are just riot telling you they are supports and all of them are just damage dealers that offer no utility and only damage All of the characters you listed provided utility to the team other than just damage output lol.
: supports damage matters only in the first 6 levels of the game except for mage supports that scale only from magic penetration and provide either a lot of zone control or aoe crowd control other than that supports control vision and often initiate or peel dunno maybe you want them back as ward bots and walking bags of gold https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YPlaOePWiUI/maxresdefault.jpg the amazing state of supports
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJELMrub,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-07T12:26:38.048+0000) > > supports damage matters only in the first 6 levels of the game > except for mage supports that scale only from magic penetration and provide either a lot of zone control or aoe crowd control > > other than that supports control vision and often initiate or peel > dunno maybe you want them back as ward bots and walking bags of gold > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YPlaOePWiUI/maxresdefault.jpg > the amazing state of supports Ward bots? Walking bags of gold? What Did you even read my post? Supports should be providing utility to the team, rather than being big damage dealers. That's what support means. Every other MOBA with support roles actually has characters that support who take the role. Only thing I can think of is locking support characters to the support role, as in when you're chosen to play support you can only play the characters riot considers to be supports.
Rioter Comments
SirPurrr (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TsundereNatsumi,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEiJjTI1,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-04-29T10:50:58.552+0000) > > Udyr is early cheese, but do you know who trashes udyr while outperforming him early?{{champion:421}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:60}} Even fucking {{champion:80}} Trashes him, the only thing that leads him to win if the laners die to his early ganks (which happen pretty often) but why would you want udyr when you have his upgrade {{champion:59}} I haven't tried the others you list but I play quite a bit of Kindred and never found the matchup easy. Your Q isn't enough distance to escape him if he finds a flank and he can still flash stun and basically one shot you. You do outscale him hard as Kindred but it's still difficult early if he ever gets the jump on you. Udyr is actually in the top 5 worst matchups for Kindred statistically (but still 48% win rate for her).
> [{quoted}](name=SirPurrr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEiJjTI1,comment-id=000c0001,timestamp=2019-04-29T21:48:59.481+0000) > > I haven't tried the others you list but I play quite a bit of Kindred and never found the matchup easy. Your Q isn't enough distance to escape him if he finds a flank and he can still flash stun and basically one shot you. You do outscale him hard as Kindred but it's still difficult early if he ever gets the jump on you. Udyr is actually in the top 5 worst matchups for Kindred statistically (but still 48% win rate for her). Well actually, pants does play some offmeta champs and do pretty good with them. As of recent I know he's played fiddle, and amumu. One of his matches with amumu was against qtpie, another very good player, and he creamed them.
Cevrad (NA)
: Level means nothing. Stop trolling.
> [{quoted}](name=Cevrad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpugp3Ua,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-04-30T09:38:36.180+0000) > > Level means nothing. Stop trolling. I don't think you know what trolling is lmao. And yes level means something, it means the people I'm facing have a hell of a lot more experience with the game than I do. I'm surprised this even needs to be explained.
cabbysb (NA)
: League is evolving into garbage
Can they stop adding champs that take your stuff please? For years, the only thing enemy champs took was baron, dragons, or your life... then they started taking your summoner spells, now they take your ultimates?
: I know about a youtuber that got to like rank 6 playijg udyr... this season
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEiJjTI1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-29T04:58:04.705+0000) > > I know about a youtuber that got to like rank 6 playijg udyr... this season Pants Are Dragon? A good player but he's definitely a metaslave lol
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: buff jungle exp back?
The argument is not that jungling cannot be impactful y'all, the argument is that jungling takes too much skill/a lot of luck (praying people push their waves so they're easy ganks, pray your teammates know how to properly follow up with your gank attempts) to be impactful. When I jungle, the fact I'm behind is constantly looping in my head. I do my first clearing path red side, then go to top to gank but fail - the guy flashes, or just isn't pushed up, etc. My first thought is "great, now I'm even more behind", and it just continues on. If you're not constantly seeing action, you're behind. If you aren't killing people left and right, you're behind. At best you're barely even with bot lane, you won't catch up to mid or top. It's ridiculous how unrewarding the jungle is to play. And say I'm low level or whatever, but that's the point. No role should need godly amounts of experience, skill, and even luck to be able to impact the game at all.
H00KIE (NA)
: Why can we still not see skins ingame?
Many of you seem to be missing the point. I don't care that I can try any skin I want on the PBE. The point is that when you browse skins in the shop you should be able to see what it looks like ingame, without going on the PBE or looking it up. This is a horrible market strategy. Who buys a skin without any clue of what it looks like ingame? Does Riot not like money?
floo (EUW)
: > I refuse to buy a skin just because it's anime art looks cool. Silver Kayle {{sticker:sg-janna}}
> [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cwBjE2Ol,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-29T17:31:47.780+0000) > > Silver Kayle {{sticker:sg-janna}} Nah man, Lady Justice Kayle And Justice For All...
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: buff jungle exp back?
Yeah I've tried jungling this season, its godawful. Either constantly gank succesfully or be super far behind. People constantly steal your camps and you pretty much lose by default. Make it so farming your camps is actually rewarding.
Rioter Comments
stoyo8 (NA)
: jungle feels so unsatisfying to play ever since the xp nerf. You can get every dragon, objective, but still be behind or at most even with lanes. Gutting JG xp to deal with 'better jungle wins' in the pre season was not the way to go. No one ever thought to themselves 'wow, this (insert early game jg) does too much damage in the late game, better nerf his XP'. Now you have to gank a lot as a jungler if you want to win the game since powerfarming is not viable.
> [{quoted}](name=stoyo8,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2roEWTRU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-28T01:01:54.111+0000) > > jungle feels so unsatisfying to play ever since the xp nerf. You can get every dragon, objective, but still be behind or at most even with lanes. Gutting JG xp to deal with 'better jungle wins' in the pre season was not the way to go. No one ever thought to themselves 'wow, this (insert early game jg) does too much damage in the late game, better nerf his XP'. > > Now you have to gank a lot as a jungler if you want to win the game since powerfarming is not viable. I noticed this too, and I thought it was just the fact I suck. No wonder nobody wants to jungle, it taking days to level up is ridiculous.
: MATCHMAKING IS BROKEN?!
MM in general is god-awful. I'm level 30 or so, not even, and I only play draft - yet I am consistently playing players who are level 100+. I had a nine game losing streak because the game refuses you to put you with people your skill level, or they only put the sorta new players (like me) on one team and the other team gets all the level 100+ players.
GigglesO (NA)
: I like Juggernauts because they are tanky, not because I can instantly nuke people
What is a juggernaut? I thought they were just called tanks
Lakrosin (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=NemeBro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TEAjatKz,comment-id=000e0001,timestamp=2018-02-21T11:26:25.116+0000) > > https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Sion/Top/ > > You're frankly being delusional. Enjoy your main being freelo while it lasts. He's going to get his knees broken soon. Just watch. 56% isn't freelo. lul Is it balanced? No. Is it freelo? No.
> [{quoted}](name=Lakrosin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TEAjatKz,comment-id=000e00010000,timestamp=2018-02-21T15:06:12.880+0000) > > 56% isn't freelo. lul > > Is it balanced? No. > Is it freelo? No. If it's not balanced, it's freelo. How can it be freelo but not at the same time? These mean the same thing in this context.
Rioter Comments
: " and after the game he adds me and has been harassing me for like 4 days now? " - LOOOOL, What the hell? You come here on boards crying about a guy, who is harassing you for FOUR DAYS? Have you ever heard about NOT ACCEPTING RANDOM REQUEST or UNFRIENDING somebody or BLOCKING him? Oh my god, what a word we live in, when instead of pressing 2 buttons, somebody comes to a forum to cry about being lazy pressing 2 buttons.
> [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QPAp9JmW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-15T23:03:54.165+0000) > > " and after the game he adds me and has been harassing me for like 4 days now? " - LOOOOL, What the hell? You come here on boards crying about a guy, who is harassing you for FOUR DAYS? Have you ever heard about NOT ACCEPTING RANDOM REQUEST or UNFRIENDING somebody or BLOCKING him? Oh my god, what a word we live in, when instead of pressing 2 buttons, somebody comes to a forum to cry about being lazy pressing 2 buttons. You're kind of a moron lol, no offense. Just because you can stop it that doesn't make it okay. The Internet is a public place. If someone followed you around in real life harassing you you wouldn't say "Just get a restraining order who cares"; that doesn't make their actions okay. Not sure how you can't comprehend this.
: >why are you justifying his actions? i'm not. don't put words in my mouth >you're essentially saying "lol you asked for it" well... you did... it's like going for a walk and meeting a dog that won't stop barking at you. and what do you do? you attempt to pet it https://i.imgflip.com/d5z8o.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QPAp9JmW,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T14:52:26.301+0000) > > i'm not. don't put words in my mouth > > well... you did... > > it's like going for a walk and meeting a dog that won't stop barking at you. and what do you do? you attempt to pet it > > https://i.imgflip.com/d5z8o.jpg Uh, yes you are justifying his actions lmao. Think before you post.
: >because I wanted to see what he wanted what else were you expecting? like... seriously?
> [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QPAp9JmW,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T14:36:04.597+0000) > > what else were you expecting? > > like... seriously? it doesn't matter what i was expecting lol, why are you justifying his actions? you're essentially saying "lol you asked for it"
: > [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QPAp9JmW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-15T14:20:51.732+0000) > > how has he been harassing you for 4 days? op added them... op if he was mean and toxic in game why did you add him? and if he keeps requesting an add block him.
> [{quoted}](name=TheEvilQueen135,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QPAp9JmW,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T14:29:11.186+0000) > > op added them... > > > op if he was mean and toxic in game why did you add him? and if he keeps requesting an add block him. because I wanted to see what he wanted; yes, obviously i can remove and mute him or whatever; but does that somehow make it okay to do what they're doing without punishment?
Rioter Comments
: I really don't understand how Zac doesn't have a 55%+ win rate.
I honestly don't know how you're Diamond if you think Zac is OP.
: except he takes 2 more min than them to get lvl 3
> [{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IUKxVZAm,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T10:58:18.274+0000) > > except he takes 2 more min than them to get lvl 3 No he doesn't? He can get level 3 by 2:30.
: > [{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IUKxVZAm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-15T09:07:35.478+0000) > > His early clear is TERRIBLE yeah, it's so terrible he always ganks lvl 3 with both buffs mid or top at 3 mins. no different than other junglers.
> [{quoted}](name=d5 is my legacy,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IUKxVZAm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T09:11:28.218+0000) > > yeah, it's so terrible he always ganks lvl 3 with both buffs mid or top at 3 mins. no different than other junglers. So true lol. Zac can clear raptors then kite red by Q'ing onto the big krug, then smite the big krug and clear that; can get level 3 pretty quick.
: Because other champions require more resource-intensive changes than Kog. Since his performance has been proven to react so sensitive to changing W's numbers, changing the value from "gutting" to "nerfing with the aim of balance" is literally changing 4 numbers in the code. Manhours required: 1 hour at most. Note that Riot seldomly undoes a nerf if a champion has been hit too hard. This is because, most of the time, performance does not linearily scale with numbers (for instance, a 5 damage nerf could make the difference between a skill clearing caster minions at rank 4 or 5, or requiring another auto-attack to kill a jungle monster off). In Kog's case, due to the lever being a long-duration single target damage buff, his effectiveness should actually scale linearily with the numbers.
> [{quoted}](name=ProfDrDeath,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tWJb4ElJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-13T23:04:57.072+0000) > > Because other champions require more resource-intensive changes than Kog. Since his performance has been proven to react so sensitive to changing W's numbers, changing the value from "gutting" to "nerfing with the aim of balance" is literally changing 4 numbers in the code. Manhours required: 1 hour at most. > > Note that Riot seldomly undoes a nerf if a champion has been hit too hard. This is because, most of the time, performance does not linearily scale with numbers (for instance, a 5 damage nerf could make the difference between a skill clearing caster minions at rank 4 or 5, or requiring another auto-attack to kill a jungle monster off). In Kog's case, due to the lever being a long-duration single target damage buff, his effectiveness should actually scale linearily with the numbers. Good post, I made a point like this somewhere as well. The characters who are doing bad, like Jhin, need much more than just one ability buffed.
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