: Big question is, what to buff exactly.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q91dATAg,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T16:52:43.389+0000) > > Big question is, what to buff exactly. Some reverts would be a nice start, like the stat nerfs on his Q and so fourth.
: I mean, im down for buffs, but I want to avoid the situation where we've done that before, and he became the single best jungler in the game, and no one came close to it.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q91dATAg,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T16:45:53.899+0000) > > I mean, im down for buffs, but I want to avoid the situation where we've done that before, and he became the single best jungler in the game, and no one came close to it. Well yeah, in like season 6 Graves had access to items like Steraks Gauge, as well as other tank items, but a lot of those items were changed, in addition to the nerfs to him. So if they buffed him, he wouldn't even be broken.
: Upvote bots striking again ? Lmao what can I say asking for Graves buffs? was the -3 AD really that huge nerf? " Face palm " Rito , please buff Graves , the -3 AD gutted him
> [{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q91dATAg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-07T15:31:00.739+0000) > > Upvote bots striking again ? > Lmao what can I say > asking for Graves buffs? was the -3 AD really that huge nerf? " Face palm " > Rito , please buff Graves , the -3 AD gutted him Uh, what? Also no, I'm not saying it was only the removal of -3 attack damage from his base stats, it's the nerfs he's gotten to himself, and to what he uses, like his items, runes and so on...my point I am trying to make, he is no longer good early game, and he doesn't scale well later into the game either...
: He's finally in a good spot Stop buff mongering when he doesn't need them
He's garbage right now. It's not buff mongering, he is legit just shit lol...might be good in your elo friend.
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