: > [{quoted}](name=HaiCupcake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FqfNgEW7,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-08-07T03:50:44.146+0000) This may come as a total shock to you, but you don't have to talk back, especially not repeat back what they said to you. Mute. Them. That is literally all you have to do. You're just looking for an excuse to be toxic.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FqfNgEW7,comment-id=000200010001,timestamp=2019-08-07T04:41:32.802+0000) > > This may come as a total shock to you, but you don't have to talk back, especially not repeat back what they said to you. Mute. Them. That is literally all you have to do. You're just looking for an excuse to be toxic. Hi Cadence Please stop with the condescending tone and negative assumptions . As of now negative behavior gets banned, including what you did just there too is considered negative! You're correct, I do not have to respond. But I do care enough to and I try my best to help toxic people see that it is not right to be mean to others. Please do not be a mean negative person as well, that is the point!
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: > [{quoted}](name=HaiCupcake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FqfNgEW7,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-08-07T03:50:44.146+0000) > > I am totally not talking about being toxic back is okay! I am saying if you quote the other person or say one thing back to the many continuous times they abuse you! you *are* saying being toxic back is ok... you aren't getting punished for saying basic stuff to a toxic guy. You want to call him a toxic asshat and berate him
> [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FqfNgEW7,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-08-07T03:55:24.291+0000) > > you *are* saying being toxic back is ok... you aren't getting punished for saying basic stuff to a toxic guy. You want to call him a toxic asshat and berate him I am not saying that. You are saying toxic things and shoving them into someone else's mouth that came out of your own. Please mind your language! Respect please~
: Its a game. You don't have to defend yourself. If they aren't going to contribute anything positive to your gaming experience, just mute them. You all act like flaming back is literally the only solution when its not. You're just looking for an excuse to be toxic and get away with it by playing the victim.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FqfNgEW7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-07T03:09:40.429+0000) > > Its a game. You don't have to defend yourself. If they aren't going to contribute anything positive to your gaming experience, just mute them. You all act like flaming back is literally the only solution when its not. You're just looking for an excuse to be toxic and get away with it by playing the victim. I am totally not talking about being toxic back is okay! I am saying if you quote the other person or say one thing back to the many continuous times they abuse you!
: Bump Poll Pls ~ To Dev: Please Revise Penalty Policy for Self Defense Against Toxic Players
Dear Rujitra Thank you for taking the time to write back after thoroughly reading my post. I totally understand where you are coming from. Like anyone's including my post is flawed, yours is as well. Some of your arguments are actually inaccurate and untrue. The Riot Support I spoke with did state that he or she do hope that the policy can be changed. I am not asking for a right to be toxic, I am asking for a right to be in small amount of self defense like it is okay to make a joke back, not to the point of being toxic! You stand on the point where it does not matter who starts it, but in actuality it does matter who starts it. With the example you used where cops will arrest both people in a fight, that is correct. However in court, in small cases or the large the victim have ample space for self defense and they are not penalized for defending themselves. I am no law expert, but I know that victims are generally not penalized for self defense. In some states but only very few, there are penalties where if the self defense is way more harmful than the attack itself then they may be penalized. I also have a realistic example for this where what I claim is true. There is a case where I got harassed by someone and I got in trouble with the police from the situation. Then I had to go in court, and the judge, upon reading the case instantly dismissed my case! I was totally not at fault for my reasonable amount of self defense against the attacker. All I am asking for is an understanding for self defense through riot. It is a real, normal human response for anyone to protect themselves. Lets judge case by case; in my situation I quoted the person and said "****" you cannot use any words besides that? I was not verbally abusing the other player! I got detected by the bot because I quoted the word that the toxic player used. The penalty when it comes to self defense should be less of than the actual toxic player who keeps attacking the victim over and over again. If the victim respond 1 time to the 10 times, or 100 times being attacked, he should have the right to say one thing to protect himself as long as it does not cross the line into abusing others. Can there for example, only be a chat ban penalty when it comes to self defense instead of like for toxic players the ban is chat including the loss of honor? Dropping from honor 5 to honor 0 it takes many more months or a year to get back to level 2 honor.That means no season rewards for the season, no skin for all the games and hard work put into ranked just because of something silly where it was not the fault of the victim to get attacked and responded accordingly. I agree with you that no player should be toxic back towards their attackers! I am requesting for lee room for self defense, where the penalty should also be in accordance to the situation. If the person responds back with a joke that teases back the toxic player who literally verbally abuses the other player, that should be understood in the context of the situation where it was reasonable!
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