Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 17
Hi Meddler, On the last gameplay thoughts post, you discussed snowballing, and this inspired me to some questions about it: 1. How does Riot look at snowballing from a balance perspective? 2. How much does player tilt factor into Riot's view of it? Aside from that, what other things do you feel impact snowballing the most? 3. and how hotly debated is snowballing-balance among Rioters? And one last one, in your opinion are there situations where 'feast or famine' is especially better or worse for game health?
NotSid (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-16T23:03:48.910+0000) > > Pretty sure there are laws in the US against crowd abuse like that. You can try submitting a support ticket to Twitch, Riot, and maybe even contact your police. Although it being 2 years ago might lessen the reaction... > > If you do take that route be sure to provide screenshots and proof. Saint is Canadian though so.. Idk what American police could do about it. Although he isn't a very nice Canadian at all. This is what happens when Canadian people have too many American friends.. they're a bad influence.
> [{quoted}](name=NotSid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2017-11-17T18:18:13.326+0000) > > Saint is Canadian though so.. Idk what American police could do about it. Although he isn't a very nice Canadian at all. This is what happens when Canadian people have too many American friends.. they're a bad influence. Canada may have laws about that as well, aren't they a little more socialist than the US with their legal system? I would think that a more socialist country would have laws against leading a group to mob-mentality.
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=arfFaBuX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-17T17:51:43.885+0000) > > Boxes deal physical damage? Building AP allows Shaco's physical damage to scale? > > I guess you learn something new every day. Boxes still do magic damage but the PTA is bonus damage from ANY source so when you get those 3 hits those boxes are going to shred. AP scales with all of shaco's kit including E and Backstab so you can do a lot of mixed damage plus duskblade gives a bit of damage to what his old Q used to do so it's nice to synergize with.
That's pretty clever! I'm impressed by your build. Now, I don't play shaco so I probably won't try this but props to you for coming up with a successful build. ###### disclaimer, I think AP shaco is anti-fun and absolutely cruel to use against others.
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-11-17T17:03:54.685+0000) > > because he was the one who triggered the 'open season' to harass them. > Warning! You are on the internet, trigger warnings may apply. Please proceed to the nearest safe space where you will find your pacifier and diaper change.
> [{quoted}](name=Vardahoth,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=0001000100000001,timestamp=2017-11-17T18:05:23.381+0000) > > Warning! You are on the internet, trigger warnings may apply. Please proceed to the nearest safe space where you will find your pacifier and diaper change. This is not a helpful nor a relevant statement. Please come back when you have something valuable to say.
: Got banned after the worst game of my life...
I dunno whether or not your ban was justified because I don't have the logs to see everything that was said, but just FYI... You don't need other people to report with you, it only takes 1 report to flag a player for review. And giving attention to a player who is acting out will only encourage them to keep acting out. So you're better off just ignoring the player and then reporting them after the game.
: Ap Lethality Shaco
Boxes deal physical damage? Building AP allows Shaco's physical damage to scale? I guess you learn something new every day.
Zexvain (NA)
: I don't get why a player's only means of defending theirself is by muting them.
You use an open world example, somebody yelling at you in the street or a bar, but that is not applicable here. League is a competitive game, and just like in other competitive games (such as soccer/futbol and basketball), arguing with the other players detracts from the fun of the game for everybody. Additionally, arguing with somebody who is trying to fight you will only lead to them acting even worse because by responding you show them that they can get a response out of you if they keep at it. tldr; it reduces the fun for everyone, and it exacerbates the behavior of the aggressor. This is why it is considered punishable to flame back. If you must say something, you can always say "I did not do those things," or "I'm not feeding" and then mute them. Thus you have defended your honor and also removed yourself from the situation without having to be exposed to any further abuse from them.
: An example of Riot's algorithm using the MMR system
So you've proven that multiplying a negative number by a really big number gives a really big negative number. This is not such an impressive discovery. I don't see what this has to do with Riot, since they would know better and wouldn't implement such an obvious flaw into the math of the matchmaking system.
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-11-17T17:03:54.685+0000) > > Not fucking saintvicious, his fucking followers. That's an even worse conclusion to come to.
> [{quoted}](name=IAintDarius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-17T17:29:23.355+0000) > > That's an even worse conclusion to come to. I hadn't had coffee yet this morning. I've edited my comment to better reflect my actual views.
: Why dont people talk about Guardian Angel as much?
It presents plenty of counterplay, and both teams are free to build it. This makes it feel less unfair to play against and so people do not get upset about it as much.
shutUpnPray (EUNE)
: Toxicity in league and people that really don't understand what toxicity is
Contact Riot and your local law enforcement agency, threats over the internet are not to be trifled with and are absolutely illegal. They will deal with that person appropriately. You should not have given that person your address, it is an unnecessary risk. That said, the person was probably just bluffing because they were furious at you. A lot of idiots are all talk and no bite on the internet. They think that acting out over the internet is 'macho' and they think that hiding behind a computer screen will cover for the fact that they have no balls to act in real life.
: He's gotta look to something as an accomplishment I guess =/
lol stomping on beginners to level up an account is an accomplishment? And here I was trying to play people at my skill level and enjoy even matches with lots of back and forth... I guess I've been doing it wrong. _Edit: Dude, I've seen a lot of your comments recently and I just gotta say your recipe is great. Just the right amount of sass without being really insulting, sprinkled with enough knowledge that anybody who actually cares to learn how to be better could still learn from it._ _10/10 enjoyable to read :)_
realnoob (NA)
: i agree with you but where is the fun in that? (for the fed person)
The fed person should be rewarded for playing consistently well, not just for playing well at the start of the game. My point is that the effort to reward ratio falls way off once a player gets fed. They should be required to play skillfully the whole way through the game in order to win.
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-16T23:03:48.910+0000) > > Pretty sure there are laws in the US against crowd abuse like that. You can try submitting a support ticket to Twitch, Riot, and maybe even contact your police. Although it being 2 years ago might lessen the reaction... > > If you do take that route be sure to provide screenshots and proof. Are you fucking kidding me? Call the police because he called some rando in twitch chat stupid? This thinking is leading us right into the pits of hell. Jesus christ get me off this ride.
> [{quoted}](name=RedPannda,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yVUIfBJI,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-11-17T08:43:03.908+0000) > > Are you fucking kidding me? Call the police because he called some rando in twitch chat stupid? This thinking is leading us right into the pits of hell. Jesus christ get me off this ride. He did a lot more than call them stupid. He went a hell of a lot farther than that. And he is a leader in that situation, he should act responsibly. It is 100% his fault that his followers turned on the OP, because he was the one who triggered the 'open season' to harass them. That environment is not okay, an offhand comment is enough to set an entire crowd of people after the OP. Regardless of who is at fault, the situation is unacceptable.
: You are aware that having any vulgar words in your chat at all if you've been punished in any way can result in you getting automatically banned by the automated system with one report, right? Even if that swear word is not directed at any person or anything in particular.
That is incorrect. It depends entirely on what vulgar word is used, and whether it is used to refer to another player or to express frustration in general. Some vulgar language is acceptable, while other is not.
: You think bait banning is a small issue? Neck youself was a one time thing? This is a record from a single one of my people.
Wow it must have taken a lot of time to photo-shop all of those.
: Issued a 14 day ban that i believe is false.
Happy to see that Riot was willing to reduce your punishment, that was pretty sweet of them to do. Good luck in your future games Real Mike!
: My mother used to say that "church" was basically this... Free therapy. (lol) But in all honesty, if you do go to a church they'll probably just tell you your demonized so idk about this one. Church people are really friendly tho, you may find a counselor or someone empathetic to hear your case for free (hopefully without demonizing you) As an alternative, I like the psychology student guys idea. I can't really help much besides that.
Some churches are good and supportive while others are less so. I've been dragged along with a friend to a church they liked and it was a really uplifting experience. IMO it's not for me, but for some people that support is enough to get by.
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nAWg96AG,comment-id=000a0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T22:25:37.923+0000) > > That's not really something to brag about. You shouldn't need that many accounts, like ever. free to make, free to play. i will make as many as i like, none of your business
> [{quoted}](name=xXPeterNorthXx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nAWg96AG,comment-id=000a00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T23:11:54.575+0000) > > free to make, free to play. i will make as many as i like, none of your business I mean yeah... but why? There is no benefit to playing at lower levels once you know how to play already.
jjcool99 (NA)
: I find killing {{champion:17}} to be an excellent source of therapy.
Bro the thread is 2 weeks old. How did you even find it to comment?
: Dude, why would anyone do that? He's a great chef!
His community is notorious for being toxic. Being among it cannot be good for one's mental health. _Edit. I'm aware that this thread is old, I mistakenly commented because somebody else must have revived it by commenting and bringing it back to the top of recent._
: Yes, marijuana. Good free therapy. You will feel your anger and discontent immediately leave your brain. All petty problems will be put in perspective... a video game? Is that what I was upset about? Oh silly me. This is life, fuck a video game. Try it, it's quite nice. Edit: oh wait, it's not free. Duh.
Actually, taking mind altering drugs while starting in a bad place usually results in a bad time for the people who do it. It's the same thing with getting drunk or taking other drugs. You can't hide from your emotions behind drugs, they just intensify pre-existing feelings and lower your inhibitions.
: Get a cat they help
I concur, pets make great companions so long as you are responsible enough to care for one.
: Saintvicious is not a nice nor a good person.
Pretty sure there are laws in the US against crowd abuse like that. You can try submitting a support ticket to Twitch, Riot, and maybe even contact your police. Although it being 2 years ago might lessen the reaction... If you do take that route be sure to provide screenshots and proof.
: Riot Support does nothing to help players
Looks pretty normal to me, The support agents answered your questions and made it abundantly clear what you had done wrong and why Riot felt it warranted a ban. You then took it personally and assumed they had closed your ticket out of spite, personally attacking them when they had done nothing to earn it. In the future, maybe consider that people are not out to get you. Don't take it personally when they don't do what you want. It's not their fault that your behavior triggered the punishment system. Take responsibility for your own actions, and next time you receive a chat restriction in a video game take a minute to reflect on it and consider what you might have done, as well as what you should do differently in the future.
lizardry (NA)
: A cautionary tale: Unjust suspension by the automated disciplinary system
This is a very fringe case. Might be liftable, but anyway in the future you should stray away from using terms that are considered zero tolerance. I've upvoted so that hopefully Riot Tantram will see this. He can investigate and either clear your name or reveal the truth if you lied. Best of luck to you either way.
: > [{quoted}](name=AngusBoomPants,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nAWg96AG,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2017-11-16T08:52:35.129+0000) > > Don't forget, we're clearly all Riot cheerleaders who support their banning of innocent players. There's nothing wrong with racial slurs, we're just sensitive SJW snowflakes :^) > > /s you're a volunteer cheerleader too. how sad is that?
: > [{quoted}](name=AngusBoomPants,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nAWg96AG,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T08:50:40.187+0000) > > lmao ok then, see you in a week when you ask why you were permabanned. i have no such illusions. if one of my 50 accounts is permabanned, it would be a badge of honor and in memory of it, i would replace it with another one
> [{quoted}](name=xXPeterNorthXx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nAWg96AG,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T21:59:03.088+0000) > > if one of my 50 accounts is permabanned, it would be a badge of honor That's not really something to brag about. You shouldn't need that many accounts, like ever.
Hensetsu (EUW)
: The grass is always greener on the other side. You should main ADC. You'll start checking your death recaps seeing "2000 damage in 1.2 seconds". Then you'll know. But until you main ADC, you don't understand. Why do I say this? Because it was the same with me.
Really the problem is damage in general. Being OP is not excused by having your counter's be OP too. Both need to be nerfed. Damage-creep is real this preseason. Riot needs to take action about it.
Ebonbolt (EUW)
: GuYs AdC iS oP pLs GiVe Me UpVoTeS aNd BuFf MaGeS tHeY aRe WeAk CuZ u CaN miSs SkiLlShOtS AnD bUfF tAnKs CuZ iTs UnFaIr WhEn A cLaSs DeSiGnEd To CoUnTeR mE, cOuNtErS mE
The OP has rage but also valid frustrations. You shit-posting to parody them does nothing to win anyone's respect for your belief that the OP shouldn't hold that opinion. Maybe next time you should try providing valid reasons instead of using ad-hominem to try to discredit them.
: Nevermind that electrocute factors in lethality now so the counter to adc's is stronger than ever. I mean ffs if you feed any damage dealer they're going to delete your team unless you have someone equally as fed.
I concur. This is a terrible trend for league to be following. Here's hoping that Riot re-balances snowballing or damage-creep or both.
: i'm not arguing, im stating facts
Maybe, maybe not. But why should anybody listen to you or believe you if you act like a loudmouth brat? _Note, I'm saying you are "acting like" one, not that you are one._ This is a lot like crying wolf or saying the sky is falling. If you irritate everyone around you by behaving poorly then people will not listen to you regardless of whether your words are truthful or not. My point is that if you act superior and treat others like they are beneath you, you will not hold their respect and they will not care what you have to say.
Sarutobi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LZr5h4EB,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T20:01:21.339+0000) > > These are some great points. If a player exhibits multiple types of behavior and are punished, that punishment should count as pushing them up the ladders for each individual behavior. > > Also, I do not think that the ladders should be completely isolated. Imagine if a player were trying to be as toxic as possible for as long as possible, they might try to exhibit each type of behavior only once in order to avoid being banned. As such the system would definitely need protections put in place that apply a harsher intervention if a player exhibits more than a few different behaviors. I mean this is at least in my opinion a good alternative, but at the same time im trying to see ways people would abuse it. Im sure that is one of the main things that the people who work for Riot look into mostly when dealing with things like this because they know people will abuse it.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarutobi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LZr5h4EB,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T20:04:52.135+0000) > > I mean this is at least in my opinion a good alternative, but at the same time im trying to see ways people would abuse it. Im sure that is one of the main things that the people who work for Riot look into mostly when dealing with things like this because they know people will abuse it. Oh absolutely! I welcome your efforts to find the exploits, because the idea cannot succeed unless we make it foolproof (or at least mostly foolproof).
: no and thank god i didn't need 7 years to get challenger only 2 years
Congrats on making challenger. You should learn some humility though. Treating others like they as people are beneath you simply for having a lower score in a videogame is not going to help you convince anyone to believe or respect you when you argue.
Sarutobi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LZr5h4EB,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-16T19:20:19.240+0000) > > I think that the punishment system should use separate ladders for separate kinds of behaviors, to give players who genuinely don't understand how to behave an opportunity to learn from their mistakes. > > The only thing I really have an issue with is how someone can receive a 14-day ban for an extreme behavior, learn from it and completely eliminate that behavior from their games, but still get permabanned because they later exhibited a completely different behavior that the did not understand was not okay. > > Separate ladders of punishment would enable Riot to make the reform system more of a learning tool in addition to being able to remove toxic players from the game. Added bonus for this is that the punishments could be closer tailored to the different behaviors and it would be easier to implement early-intervention mechanisms in such a system. But then what happens when someone crosses two or more punishments? If im reading this correctly you want something like: One separate punishment for Toxic behavior, a different one for trolling, another for griefing, another for hate speech/extreme toxic behavior, etc? So basically what happens when someone who was lightly toxic gets a chat restriction, but during the chat restriction they start trolling? Would they go up in the tier of toxic punishment, or start the trolling punishment?
> [{quoted}](name=Sarutobi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LZr5h4EB,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-11-16T19:52:51.079+0000) > > But then what happens when someone crosses two or more punishments? If im reading this correctly you want something like: One separate punishment for Toxic behavior, a different one for trolling, another for griefing, another for hate speech/extreme toxic behavior, etc? > > So basically what happens when someone who was lightly toxic gets a chat restriction, but during the chat restriction they start trolling? Would they go up in the tier of toxic punishment, or start the trolling punishment? These are some great points. If a player exhibits multiple types of behavior and are punished, that punishment should count as pushing them up the ladders for each individual behavior. Also, I do not think that the ladders should be completely isolated. Imagine if a player were trying to be as toxic as possible for as long as possible, they might try to exhibit each type of behavior only once in order to avoid being banned. As such the system would definitely need protections put in place that apply a harsher intervention if a player exhibits more than a few different behaviors.
: everybody higher than silver is upset at riot. so i assume you're a fucking trash bronze/silver that is just a whiteknight to the trash low gold rioter lol
I'm unranked actually. I only play ranked when my friends insist on it. Nice job attacking me to try to discredit me. Very valid arguing. Next time make sure to call me unranked. I'm sure that will help your case. /s And as far as experience goes, my normals MMR is quite high because I've been playing this game for 7 years. Can you say that you have a similar level of experience?
roxerj (EUNE)
: permanent ban
I get that you were trying to defend yourself, and for the most part you did a pretty good job of not flaming back. But arguing with people who clearly don't want to believe you is not worth your time. It would have been better to focus on playing so you could minimize the negative impact of your mistakenly taking the wrong runes and summoner spells. I upvoted you because I'm hoping Riot Tantram sees your post and can investigate this to either clear your name or prove guilt. Either way I hope you get the help you need. Good luck!
Jo0o (NA)
: Hard to understand how client lag results in ghost/cleanse.
To be fair, if it was genuinely a mistake like they claimed then it's not like they are inting. And being forced to 1v2 as melee certainly would result in deaths, so that could explain some of their deaths. Maybe they were banned for int-feeding because of the combination of having a really really terrible game and also playing something off-meta.
: i respect u buddy. R UCK F I O T
lol of course you would. because you are upset at Riot anyone who agrees with you is automatically a hero in your eyes. Tantram made his points. Quite validly actually. So get over it.
: So here's my question. Experiments (including Riot's) have proven that offering more and more chances or more and more light punishments do not meaningfully reduce the behavior in question. Why, therefore, should Riot extend more chances to those players who have already proven the current warnings and chances are insufficient to encourage change? All that does is expose more and more of the playerbase to problematic behavior as those whose behavior IS an issue now have more leeway. As is the system already has some leeway for minor toxicity, so people can have the occasional bad day as long as they're not abusing other players or casually tossing around hate speech. Why do we need more?
_Edit: Let me preface this with saying that for as long as I can remember I have not received a punishment in league, and I have been playing for 7 years. I am simply speaking up because I noticed a trend in some of the posts here on the boards by players who were punished._ > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LZr5h4EB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-16T18:36:28.844+0000) > > As is the system already has some leeway for minor toxicity, so people can have the occasional bad day as long as they're not abusing other players or casually tossing around hate speech. Why do we need more? Because a player could learn their lesson with one kind of behavior but not with another. And the current reform system is unclear with the player in situations where they exhibit multiple different punishable behaviors. They are told that they were punished for being "toxic" but are not told specifically what they should do in order to stop. For example a flamer could get a 14-day ban for telling another player to kill themselves. Then they learn from that and realize they should not tell others to kill themselves. They might not realize that their other behavior that game was also punishable on its own. So they come off their 14-day ban and continue making passive aggressive comments about their teammates' performance when they are annoyed because they think it is okay (they were punished for something else after all, right?) and then they wind up getting permanently banned without being given an opportunity to learn that passive aggressiveness is not okay. Having separate ladders of punishment would enable Riot to make the reform system more of a learning tool in addition to being able to remove toxic players from the game. A player could receive a 14-day punishment the first time they tell another player to kill themselves, and still just receive a chat restriction if they are passive aggressive afterwards. IMO there is no need to permanently ban them unless they cross the line again and tell someone to end their life again. Added bonus for this is that the punishments could be closer tailored to the different behaviors and it would be easier to implement early-intervention mechanisms in such a system.
: Do you guys think the punishments for being banned are too harsh?
I think that the punishment system should use separate ladders for separate kinds of behaviors, to give players who genuinely don't understand how to behave an opportunity to learn from their mistakes. The only thing I really have an issue with is how someone can receive a 14-day ban for an extreme behavior, learn from it and completely eliminate that behavior from their games, but still get permabanned because they later exhibited a completely different behavior that the did not understand was not okay. Separate ladders of punishment would enable Riot to make the reform system more of a learning tool in addition to being able to remove toxic players from the game. Added bonus for this is that the punishments could be closer tailored to the different behaviors and it would be easier to implement early-intervention mechanisms in such a system.
JDog75 (NA)
: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDIN ME RIOT?
That mid laner sounds like an asshole. You can submit a support ticket about their message, as Riot does not tolerate players mocking others like they did to you. They can investigate and take appropriate action, although they won't be able to tell you the result due to privacy reasons.
: Riot doesn't IP ban so you are clearly lying for attention or some other reason.
They do in extreme cases, and it's not an IP ban, they have other ways of tracking accounts belonging to the same player. Either way, if all 5 accounts were banned it was probably deserved. Riot does not ban people until it is confirmed that they were toxic. Riot probably saw combined behavior across each of the accounts and decided to take action. Not to mention the fact that with Running's choice of username, it's likely that they have inted before.
: Do you want to get back at these players? Do you want get revenge? Join the discord and we will show you how https://discord.gg/kd7BVR (CREAMPEYE)
There is no way to get "revenge" on the specific players who were in the match that the OP was banned for. The chances of them running into those players again are very slim unless they are in the upper ranks. You are selling false wares.
: > [{quoted}](name=Anhrak,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3QYNVlmd,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-11-16T15:49:14.235+0000) > > I'm not going to join hate-driven discord servers. As well, nobody mentioned anything about revenge in first place. I'm not grudgeful. Just recruiting players for bait banning we have over 2 thousand confirmed bans on players
No you don't lol. You have over 2 thousand photo-shopped screenshots of the ban popup XD
Chermorg (NA)
: I will say though, as devil's advocate here, that someone else having a definition of "fun" that includes controlling what you do should not prevent you from having your own fun. It's just like how toxic players aren't allowed to have fun by being toxic. Likewise, players who only have fun with the meta or bossing other players for what they play should not be allowed to do that, even though they're doing it for their own fun. I think the biggest thing here is communication and everyone talking to each other. Do what you want, but please try and help your team be okay with it before and during. And if your entire team asks you not to do something, probably a better idea to skip it that game.
Excellent points, that is completely fair to say. There is definitely a balance to strike between freedom of choice and the good of all. I do agree that people should not be overly controlling either. And I concur, communication is key to making everything go smoothly. Being understanding of others' wishes goes a long way towards ensuring a game goes well.
Samslave (NA)
: I kind of thought this was the channel for contacting support - is there an email or something?
There is a link 'SUPPORT' in cyan blue at the bottom of every league of legends boards page. Just scroll down until you can't anymore and you should be able to see it. Good luck with getting your ban lifted!
Kei143 (NA)
: https://support.riotgames.com
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