Naalith (NA)
: Shadow Isles. The last update other than the recently released short story was the Yorick update in 2016, and the last new champion in that region was Kalista. Mordekaiser being moved to Noxus is a direction I like, but now there's a notable lack of a major in- game villain at the Isles. There's a ton of evil characters, but there's a lack of a big villain. We've heard about the Ruined King for years and I'd love to finally see him in game. If Mordekaiser returns it could also be through the Mist that allows the other dead to come back. Either way, we need something for the region.
I want to see something from Bandle City. It's the only one of the regions that doesn't really have any kind of story of its own, as of yet. Demacia has the mage rebellion going on, the Freljord has the three sisters vying for control of the region, the Shadow Isles has the Harrowing, Bilgewater has Miss Fortune taking control, etc etc But the Yordles just kind of... exist. They feel like they're not even connected to Runeterra in any meaningful way. They *come here*, they *do things*, but only ever as individuals. What about as a group?
: > [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oc7Ep4Gm,comment-id=00060000000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-20T22:19:08.806+0000) > > Fuck off. I'm not the one who popped into a thread on ships, saw Garen x Taric, told the person that they were wrong and "corrected" them. > > > 1) The cinematic arena fights aren't canon events either. > > 2) Lore is regularly established by the in-game lines. This has been done repeatedly throughout League's lifespan. > > > No it's not. That the two know each other is obvious but that doesn't make them romantically interested in one another. > > > Garen is a tank/fighter. Kat is a mage/assassin. These two archetypes fit together into a comp fine, not that their gameplay will necessary reflect their roles in the lore. > > > There are many reasons people ship these two. Kat and Garen would be a classic Romeo and Juliet tale. They're both devoted to their home nations above everything else and embody the ideals that their nations strive for. When the Journal of Justice was still canon the two interacted regularly, and Garen's old lore consisted almost entirely of his interactions with the Sinister Blade. > > No they're not, that's stupid. Fans don't write the quotes, Riot does. I say you choose what you want to believe is because you keep saying garen loves katarina even when he wants to kill her. Do not be rude as I'm reporting you. The cinematic is offical and is canon, in game quotes are not canon as there are tons of joke quotes. Lore is lore, quotes in game are jokes made based on lore. Be aware of the logic here. Which one comes 1st. garen and taric thing hint or not do not need your believe, they are there, in the lore. No matter you want to believe or not. Garen is tanky sword warrior, not a tank, katarina is duel blade assain, not a mage. they are both melee fighters. They fight indepenantly, they do not need each other. You know what a match up is? Like Garen - the sword warrior , and taric - the sheild of valoran, He needs him, both his sheild and his heals. They can complete each other, to become a perfect vanguard. Warrior and assasins are not romeo and juilet. They are competitors. romeo and juliet are 2 innocent people living in their own household. The old lore do not have anything romantic between garen and katarina, they were fored to team up in battles, like bros, Garen doesn't even see her as a woman. she is as tough as a man fighter he wants to compete with. While, Taric is more like a woman to Garen, Garen protects him all the time in demacia, even if everyone hates him, and there is no benefit to protect him. Taric has nothing to compete with garen, he support him, he is like his wifey. The journey of justic only talked about them at the end of the page, and it was only about the mission garen , katarina and J4 were on, there is nothing romantic in that journey. The old lore talked about garen and katarina had to team up in battles, and they found honor in each other, not affections in each other. There's also nothing romantic in the lore. And given all of that, all you can say is Garen, the might of demacia, a noble warrior leads the most elite vanguard amy, is a good match up with ... the Sinister Blade? Come on, the might of demacia is not gonna be better with the sinister blade, they are gonna kill each other. lmao. Do you not know what fanon is? It's like miss fortune's joke" how do you like my guns". It doesn't say she has a gun under her pants in the lore. But turns out you don't know what romance is either. if you believe competing each other can grow romance, then maybe, should I say, you have more potential to enjoy man on man love than man on woman love. Not trying to be offensive but it is the way it is, man and man compete with each other, woman support his man is his wife.
> I'm reporting you Go ahead, I'm sure the mods will care more about my swearing than your constant sneering and insults.
UomoAfide (EUW)
: Man... don't fall for Xano's bait... come on
: > [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oc7Ep4Gm,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2019-08-20T02:11:15.879+0000) > > {{champion:55}} x {{champion:86}} is hinted at in about a million places throughout the lore. It was heavily implied before the original League retcon. Tahm Kench, Jhin, Lux, Illaoi, the initial Odyssey skin trailer as a background detail, even God-King Garen has lines referencing it long after said retcon. And there's probably more I'm forgetting about. > > If a hint in Taric's lore is enough to ship him with Garen I don't see why Kat x Garen is something so unlikely that it needs correction. Garen and taric is hinted in taric's lore, but you choose to ignore it I guess. While, garen wants to kill katarina is in the cinematic video, and you choose to ignore it as well. And the hints you talked about are not very clear also, you said it's strongly implied, but they are only fanon jokes in game, not even in the lore. Fanon is something exaggarated from the lore, offcial fan works. Odyssey skin is a novel cover with pirate garen and pirate katarina, which does not affact the lore either. garen and taric hint in the lore is quite obvious in taric's lore. Garen protects Taric everytime, even if it's not his duty to do so, there is no benefit to protect him that far, because taric is hated by everyone in demacia. Taric's illusion on the mountain reveals all he wants is garen. garen and katarina are meant to be competitors, they are both damage dealers, warrior and assasin, they do not match up at all. But the players want to ship them because in game play, as not much people play support like taric.
> Garen and taric is hinted in taric's lore, but you choose to ignore it I guess. Fuck off. I'm not the one who popped into a thread on ships, saw Garen x Taric, told the person that they were wrong and "corrected" them. > And the hints you talked about are not very clear also, you said it's strongly implied, but they are only fanon jokes in game, not even in the lore. 1) The cinematic arena fights aren't canon events either. 2) Lore is regularly established by the in-game lines. This has been done repeatedly throughout League's lifespan. > garen and taric hint in the lore is quite obvious in taric's lore. No it's not. That the two know each other is obvious but that doesn't make them romantically interested in one another. >garen and katarina are meant to be competitors, they are both damage dealers, warrior and assasin, they do not match up at all. Garen is a tank/fighter. Kat is a mage/assassin. These two archetypes fit together into a comp fine, not that their gameplay will necessary reflect their roles in the lore. >But the players want to ship them because in game play, as not much people play support like taric. There are many reasons people ship these two. Kat and Garen would be a classic Romeo and Juliet tale. They're both devoted to their home nations above everything else and embody the ideals that their nations strive for. When the Journal of Justice was still canon the two interacted regularly, and Garen's old lore consisted almost entirely of his interactions with the Sinister Blade. >quotes are fanon No they're not, that's stupid. Fans don't write the quotes, Riot does.
: > [{quoted}](name=14daysuspensionk,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oc7Ep4Gm,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-19T23:32:16.005+0000) > > {{champion:44}} {{champion:81}} > > {{champion:86}} {{champion:55}} > > {{champion:28}} {{champion:103}} > > {{champion:19}} {{champion:8}} > > {{champion:64}} {{champion:421}} > > {{champion:202}} {{champion:222}} Just correct something {{champion:86}} {{champion:44}}, this is hinted in taric's lore. Also, they are the sheild and the sword, they complete each other. Garen wants to kill katarina it's cinematically filmed, they are competitors, not lovers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEnsqpThaFg&t=182s They are both damage dealer, duel blade assasin and sword warrior, they certainly don't need each other.
{{champion:55}} x {{champion:86}} is hinted at in about a million places throughout the lore. It was heavily implied before the original League retcon. Tahm Kench, Jhin, Lux, Illaoi, the initial Odyssey skin trailer as a background detail, even God-King Garen has lines referencing it long after said retcon. And there's probably more I'm forgetting about. If a hint in Taric's lore is enough to ship him with Garen I don't see why Kat x Garen is something so unlikely that it needs correction.
: Kayn and Rhaast should pull a We Are Venom
If Kayn or Rhaast wins RIGHT NOW, sure. But their stories have only just started. Rhaast can get more backstory and fleshed out before Kayn ultimately overpowers him. Or Kayn could be overpowered by the sheer hatred and will that is Rhaast, the arrogance of the prodigy ultimately proving his downfall. It's perfectly plausible that Rhaast could survive (albeit weakened) and come back when Kayn lets his guard down, as well. Or when Rhaast takes over and goes to kill Zed, Kayn fights back and overpowers him. But having both of them "win" feels like a really poor middle-of-the-road option given that their entire characters are built on being to opposed to each other. Or perhaps not. "There are only two possible outcomes" is pretty unambiguous.
: > [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=l8uXFndf,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T18:37:55.601+0000) > > Kindred's color story begs to differ. it proves my point. the OP states she offered you a choice. I said it is not a choice in the traditional sense, more like simply accepting death or being in fear of it in the story, a man bravely dies for his country, which means lamb shoots him. another runs from battle, and presumably gets shot by an arrow, with wolf going in for a painful death. none were offered a choice at their point in death. the choice they made themselves with absolutely no input of kindred. not even aware the entity was there
> Across the muddied field of snow, a squire—too young for battle, but with blade in hand, nonetheless—**saw that Kindred had marked all in the valley.** > > “I want the tender-thing. Does it see us, Lamb?” > > **“Yes**, but it must choose.” Also: > Wolf buried his sharp teeth in the squire’s neck, tearing out ribbons of vibrant life. > > Wolf reveled in the boy’s scream **and crunching bones.** The Kindred are there and their victims are very much aware of them. There's also the longer color story, in which Kindred appears directly to the theater woman.
: Can Azirs Sand Soldiers be killed?
I think it was mentioned somewhere that his sand soldiers are memories of Shuriman soldiers given life. And Azir can learn memories he didn't know (like the moment Xerath betrayed him) So... not really? They can probably be put down but I doubt they'd stay down.
: > [{quoted}](name=LordRedStone Nr1,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=l8uXFndf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-27T16:51:08.912+0000) > > But is that in itself not a choice? sigh. yes, but Kindred does not give you a choice, lamb does not "offer" her arrow or Wolf's jaws. it's not a choice in the strict sense, only in the loose interpretation
Kindred's color story begs to differ.
usul1202 (NA)
: How would you skin the unskinnables?
Winter Wonderland Kindred Basic- Lamb is wearing a dark navy hoodie. You can see her eyes glowing beneath the hood, and her limbs are still the white fur of lamb. (It's unclear if she's even wearing a mask; she very much has an appearance akin to the ghost of Christmas past). Her bow is made of twisted dark wood, and has a bell tied at each end of it with a red ribbon. Wolf has a navy lamb mask (matching Kindred's coat) but is white, a la an arctic wolf, with white-blue eyes. Passive: Color changes, if anything, but I think this one can remain untouched. Q- Sound of a jingle bell as she jumps. Very basic. W-Wolf's territory is white with light blue, with cracks running through it like the land was frozen. E- The marks around the target have their purple bits replaced with blue ones. Each hit, there is a sound like a jingling bell (it's a theme) Wolf turns into a snowball as he charges at you. R- Icy sigil, colored bright blue and white. My favorite champ (the only competition she even has is Evelynn). It needs some polish and expansion, but the idea of a more blue-and-white Kindred appeals greatly to me. It would certainly stand out against the purple and black base, the red-and-black Shadowfire, or... whatever Super Galaxy was, I wanna say gold and pinkish?
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xcrR2bEH,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-07-11T01:41:49.677+0000) > > Even discovering that his weapon has magic would have quite the effect on Garen. He's probably been using that sword for years and he views the stuff as inherently corrupting (not entirely unfair in some cases, see the Rock Hag he killed) Possibly, but it's something he could conceivably run from, which doesn't make it quite as compelling, I feel. However, I think it's possible that *both* could be in effect, both the sword having magic and Garen having power while wielding it. Maybe similar to Ezreal. Again, we don't know. {{sticker:cass-cry}}
Could he, though? Every victory he's ever won for Demacia, he got because of magic (EDIT: in this hypothetical), a force he hates and has spent his life absolutely certain was a permanently (and purely) corrupting force. What happens when his entire worldview is shown to be a lie? That's not something you can just run away from.
EdgeLady (NA)
: I've expressed my theories on Garen before, so as one might imagine, I have a lot of thoughts and speculations on this. Whatever happened there with Garen and Sylas, to any casual viewer, it would be implied that Garen does have some kind of magic. Now, it might be debatable on whether this would necessarily make him a "mage"; I can't exactly imagine Garen shooting light out of his hands, for instance. But many other people who simply have magic choose to channel it through weapons instead of by itself, particularly those who are less powerful (ex. Yasuo, Ezreal, likely Akali and Riven, and likely a lot more). And for those out there who like to focus on character power tiers (looking at you, RyzeTheSmurfMage), if Garen *does* have magic, I think it would be safe to say that he's less powerful than Lux. But to that note: in the present, Lux does channel her magic through her staff (with the exception of Final Spark, of which she seems to be using variants in these comics). On that note, if he does have it, what could it be, and is it connected to Lux? If Kayle's celestial magic, which has been mentioned to be the source of Garen's ultimate, is actually inherent to Garen, I've expressed my theories before that Lux's magic might be connected to Kayle too, and it could be genetic. However, there is a possibility that it could be different, though from the same source, or just completely different in general. I do hope that Sylas isn't speaking for Riot that "we'll never know the whole truth". Now, what do I want Riot to do? Well, like TheMan292 above, I definitely think that Garen discovering magic in himself would make for a very interesting and traumatic arc, but unlike Lux, I don't think it should be the sole focus of his arc, only a supplement. His arc *could* work without it, which is why I wouldn't mind too much if Riot does decide it's just his weapon or just petricite or something, but I think that aspect could be a massive **intensifier** of his arc. It would make it more about himself and his own loyalties over just being a side arc to Lux and, to a lesser extent, Sylas. He is supposed to be the true main character of Demacia after all. Plus, there are *so* many hints and teases to Garen being magic that I think it would be somewhat of a cop-out if Riot decides it's not anything special or interesting. Though I know there are people who don't want it too, especially because the magic-fearing has been so overdone in Demacian lore focus, and that I can understand. Of course, I would want said arc done *well*, if it happens, and not the same lore points hammered in again and again. But I also worry that this aspect of Garen will become a Miss Fortune VO situation where it'll be impossible or nearly impossible to make the whole fanbase happy, with whatever Riot chooses to do.
Even discovering that his weapon has magic would have quite the effect on Garen. He's probably been using that sword for years and he views the stuff as inherently corrupting (not entirely unfair in some cases, see the Rock Hag he killed)
usul1202 (NA)
: We need a hot anivia skin
Doesn't she have a prehistoric skin where her head is on fire?
Bultz (NA)
: The new Arcade skin is cool, but there are better concepts honestly
That first one seems too similar design-wise to Odyssey Yasuo.
Galiö (NA)
: I'm so excited for this game!
Mechanics are the weakest part of my gameplay in League, but I love strategy titles AND League's lore. Can't wait to try out Autochess.
: Exactly, its' all relative. Today pretty much 80% of the world believes that the world would be a better place without war and hold some kind of altruistic idealogy based around the value of all life and the will to determine your own happiness. In the Middle Ages life was cheap, anyone who was an outsider was a savage or a heathen that was deemed sub-human deserving of death, dying for your King/God/Country was considered the highest honor one could possibly attain. In Viking culture, the whole point of your life was distinguish yourself in battle so you can earn a seat with the Gods in Valhalla, anything less and you would live with shame and be ostracized by all your peers. Mental Health issues weren't treated they were ignored this "PTSD" that we classify today would just be perceived as weakness or cowardice. I guess the answer to your question is that people have collectively become more pussy lol. Of course it's a good thing we don't all need to be so hardcore anymore
Also in the medieval era, disease and sickness were far more likely to kill you. Death in combat was seen as the better fate. (although given this is fantasy medieval that may not apply)
: How do people/champions in Runeterra cope with PTSD (or avoid it, entirely)?
Modern warfare is far more liable to produce PTSD than medieval warfare A catapult or trebuchet may cause massive damage, but it's simply not comparable to the sound and power of an artillery strike. You may try and compare artillery to magic, but such powerful abilities are very rare. Being able to almost instantly kill your opponent (firearms) is simply not comparable to swordfighting. (It was also the case during these periods that people were more likely to die of disease and sickness than in battle, although that doesn't really apply to your question and is also questionable for Runeterra in particular). PTSD also has various grades and stages, and people react to it differently even in the same situation. You can be suffering from it so badly that you can never sleep a full night, or you might just jump at the occasional loud noise. It's also worth noting Runeterra is a fantasy universe; perhaps the humans here simply have more mental fortitude for such trauma than we do. As to why they're not mental wrecks: they kinda _are._ Riven went from fighting a war to working a farm and even then was unable to escape her own lingering thoughts on all her dead friends. Irelia in her color story still can't wash the blood from her blades. Sejuani... well, you said it yourself, she's basically female Ghengis Khan :P As to those who aren't: that's why they're champions. It's a fantasy concept as old as the genre itself; the people who go through hardship and come out the other side alive are the ones we remember as heroes. Heracles would not have been as interesting if the 12 labors drove him insane.
: I don't think Riot is going for Nazi route, especially since mages can be potential dangerous. Also, it is the best time to be a Demacia fan with the Lux Comic + Demacia Novella which probably will give us some more insight and hopefully some new point of view to work. (Even if I have to admit that I'm pretty done with Lux for the time, I want the other Demacias to shine as well).
It wouldn't bother me except that Anti-magic is focused on so heavily that Demacia's positive side (comraderie, diligence, duty, brotherhood, discipline, reliability) is smothered to an insane degree. Even in the Lux comic, Demacia is treated as Lux's enemy.
J Eevo (EUNE)
: It was Durand's research, but the excerpt was on petricite, not just Galio. We're just gonna glance over the line of "absorbed to be later spent"? it's not talking about the galio effect of powering up in presence of mages, it's about storing magic to be LATER spent.
And you took that to mean that the mages stuck in prison are how Galio moves, becaaaause...?
: In my eyes Qiyana is a character you _should_ love to hate. I find it strange that so many people hate her character but love Draven despite being extremely similar. Also, Qiyana having this super toxic personality makes it all the more satisfying when you kill her (it's like "HA in your face you arrogant bitch!)
The difference is that {{champion:119}} is a showman. He's an arrogant twat, yeah, but his attitude is (in part) for the crowd. His arrogance is so overblown that it's practically a stage persona, which means that he's fun to watch. I LIKE Qiyana but it's not the same thing at all.
: {{champion:119}} is also another example of making arrogant work, Qiyana is just bland as hell.
{{champion:136}} , {{champion:119}} and {{champion:81}} are all examples of good arrogant champions in this game. That doesn't mean Qiyana is bad. Honestly most every champ in this game is at least a LITTLE arrogant.
: Qiyana is a Jerk and I Love Her So Much
"Please Qiyana, step on me~" "... I _would_ have, but suddenly I don't want to."
J Eevo (EUNE)
: Directly from the comic: > Magic is not nullified but absorbed to be later spent by the colossus
Yeah. Magic NEAR the colossus. Because, again, the document was for designs on GALIO.
J Eevo (EUNE)
: >How, exactly, does the fact that petricite stores magic change anything about it? It absorbs magic and then (presumably) slowly leeches it out over time, in a dose small enough that nobody notices or cares. The comic says it's stored for redistribution into the magic colossus - meaning they're literally milking mages for energy to power up galio. That's like using people as batteries for a war mech.
Um... no. The document that Lux found was designs on Galio. That's how GALIO is designed, and we already knew that; Galio gets power from mages that fight around him and he spends that power so he can move and fight. The mages in the mageseeker complex aren't being used to power him, or he'd be up and moving all the time.
SirHydro (NA)
: Wait is this actually for sale? Like you're actually charging people money for this garbage? I'm not sure what's more offensive or shocking? The fact Riot Wants money for this: Or the fact that people are actually paying money for it. Ya'll are a trip.
It's free on Universe, sir. "I want my money back" was a f#@$ing JOKE and at time of writing this comment NOBODY'S EVEN VOTED FOR IT.
Kuzja1 (NA)
: Lux marrying Jarvan? I'm more of a Lux x Ezreal person myself. It feels safer. But I know that's not going to happen due to the majority demanding a different ship.
*shrug* I'm a fan of Jarvan x Shyvana, personally. And Lux x Ezreal seems like it'll happen. Or at least that Riot wants to leave that open for later.
: [Spoilers] Lux: Issue Nr. 2 - Feedback, Discussion and Questions
I will note that, while it is IMPLIED that Jarvan accepted marrying Lux, we never actually see him accept. As such we don't really know about what else Garen might have said, or he might have simply said no and Garen is trying to push them together. (I don't think Garen is the type to trick/force Jarvan into a marriage and even if he was he probably doesn't have the power to do so, but it IS possible.) I am genuinely curious where they're going to take this element. We already know Sylas will escape and cause devastation across Demacia, but we don't know how Lux, Garen and Jarvans' relations are going to end up. And if it comes out Lux helped Sylas escape (even inadverdently), well... then Jarvan and Lux _definitely_ aren't getting married. And the Jarvana ship lives on, yey~!
darkdill (NA)
: >And it's not like Lux is being married off to some old rapist who'll see her as a piece of meat Unlike a certain redhead who got renamed to "Bitch". XD But as for your "Demacia has some good in it", the comic has not done anything to show that side.
I know and it's so FRUSTRATING Demacia is my favorite faction in this game, please rito _stop making them the Nazis_!!
: History and current cultures have shown how we treat sick people. It’s not all that great. By living free, you mean kept far away from the kingdom. I don’t think we’ve seen how those people live either.
"kept far away from the kingdom" Um No The specific example he was referring to was living in the village with his family.
darkdill (NA)
: These comics are designed to make us hate Demacian politics, right?
-We learn in other Demacia stories that this isn't the case. Mages get their power checked, and if they're low-threat they're allowed to live their lives. We know this because when Sylas escapes and starts his mage rebellion, this policy is *reversed* and mages are all locked up as potential threats (we see this in one of the short stories). And they ARE potential threats when you've still got Sylas running around. (We also see that the anti-magic angle is not as extreme in every corner of this society) -I'm pretty sure that's meant to indicate that Garen knows/suspects that Lux has magical power. It's not solely that she has compassion for the mages. -How, exactly, does the fact that petricite stores magic change anything about it? It absorbs magic and then (presumably) slowly leeches it out over time, in a dose small enough that nobody notices or cares. Moreover, he was only able to do so right after touching Lux. It's exactly what Demacia claims it is: an anti-magic material. Sylas is one of the only people who realizes what it can do, and since he apparently needs to SEE the magic is probably the only one who CAN utilize it like this. -Like it or hate it this is a very common thing in medieval politics. And it's not like Lux is being married off to some old rapist who'll see her as a piece of meat; she's getting married off to someone who she's known since childhood. It's bad, but it's not the worst thing that could be happening to her and given that Garen is looking to SAVE HER LIFE I'd say it's understandable. Lux defends the way of life she lives in because she sees the good it does as more valuable than the harm it brings, same as anyone. She's very much an optimist and that may get in the way of her clear thinking, sure, but to decry the entirety of Demacian life as this disgusting thing is, frankly, inaccurate. We're seeing Demacia in a very negative light right now, yes. But keep in mind that Poppy's adventure to find the Hero, Galio's quest to beat up everything bad, Shyvana's honor and comraderie with Demacians, Jarvan's sense of duty, Garen's zeal to protect the innocent... these things all exist in Demacia as well. You can't just ignore all of that and proclaim that it'd be better if Noxus wiped it off the map.
: > it's an idiot and his followers making everyone elses lives more misserable God forbid a man nearly executed has a grudge, along with an oppressed people.
He committed multiple counts of murder and resisted arrest.
GenoXx (NA)
: Do roads exist in Zaun at all?
Ekko's got a comic that has streets and walkways. And so does Mundo's bio/color story iirc
: @RiotDevs about Kindred's VO
Would also be interested in hearing stuff about Kindred's voice work. They're a very unique champion in the game.
: New stories and bios - Yuumi, yordles, and Draven!
YORDLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLES!!! YES oh i have NEEDED this
Xano501 (NA)
: Peoples who hate Wukong x Ahri are evil.
: Pff. Falrein. Trying to imply that you've only _just_ noticed the lack of the floating fortress. I'm pretty sure the second the map went live you went looking for it. I know you! {{sticker:sg-syndra}} (Cats5Ever)
I don't think that story came out till AFTER the map, tho?
: > [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2LFFn9At,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-10T17:34:24.605+0000) > If they can make a mistake *this* extreme and just *ignore it*, I see no reason to. This is a level of incompetence that initially made me laugh like a maniac, until I realized: if this could happen to Shyvana, why couldn't it happen to any other character on the roster? How am I supposed to trust that any character's bio is the way it's supposed to be if Shyvana's bio could be so different from what Riot's working with for literal YEARS? > Shyvana wasn't the first to get shit on. {{champion:43}} 's relaunch was the beginning of the end. However, the players back then were too stupid to realize it because she was pretty non-existent and they didn't dream of **their** champions getting pwned as well. The only people vocal were Karma players and the playerbase was way too small for them to influence Riot's change. It's bittersweet. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
It's not the same thing. The problem with Karma was poor direction. The problem with Shyvana was that they've been using A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VERSION OF HER LORE FOR OVER 2 YEARS.
: Final statement on Shyvana's bio (Still no response by Riot)
"I'd rather just push through it and see what exactly Riot's narrative team has in store. " I wouldn't. I absolutely refuse to give even a single solitary flying fuck about what they do with anyone's lore from here on out, especially Shyvana's. "Woops, we were working with a different lore state than the one the players had for years!" If they can make a mistake *this* extreme and just *ignore it*, I see no reason to. This is a level of incompetence that initially made me laugh like a maniac, until I realized: if this could happen to Shyvana, why couldn't it happen to any other character on the roster? How am I supposed to trust that any character's bio is the way it's supposed to be if Shyvana's bio could be so different from what Riot's working with for literal YEARS? How am I supposed to care about a character's lore if it's just going to change to such an extreme and delete entire characters on a whim? At least with Varus you could argue that his family only existed to die in the first place and Varus pre-ascension COULD still have his old backstory. But the "new" bio and the previous are impossible to reconcile.
Gixia (NA)
: Guys, don't feed the troll, just downvote and move on.
: I don't disagree necessarily, but I think there were definitely things that worth retconning. Again, can't make such blanket statements like that nothing should be changed. They're human at Riot, they're bound to make mistakes. And you're stepping up and making sure your voice is heard which is good but, I don't think the majority is as inconsistent as this Shyvana story might be. (By the way, I do agree with your original post 100%.)
"can't make such blanket statements like that nothing should be changed" Where did I say that? Point at it. You can't put words in my mouth and then criticize those words as ridiculous. That's a strawman.
: Got news for you, everytime someone says something that doesn't fit your narritive and you tremble at their word doesn't make them just trolling. The retcon was an improvement and the writers work hard on all of our champions so u need to EMBRAECE it
And I have news for you, "Brony" "Gaymer" When you claim a bio that has no bestiality in it encourages bestiality, lack basic grammar skills, state your opinions as incontrovertible fact, and spend every post you make being insulting and belligerent to everyone who contradicts you (often without actual rebuttal), you're a troll.
: It’s more feasible, since she didn’t get an animated music video and comic to go with her lore change (forgive me if I haven’t read it, just going by what I’ve seen here). However, it’s likely Riot has something up their sleeve and so they won’t change it. My condolences.
What bugs me about it is that they announced this as a "minor" edit.
: No, it's a genuine improvement.
A story that has less to it and makes less sense is better? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Quepha (NA)
: Because Riot doesn't care about their fans. This isn't the first time they've done this, it won't be the last. They might apologize and say they'll do better, and they might even do better... for a while. Then they'll forget. Then they'll destroy something else. Then we get to do this all again.
Nope! They just f#@$ed up when Galio was released. It is actually hilarious. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/NN16QyIy-shyvanas-new-bio-is-not-only-a-downgrade-of-a-decent-piece-of-lore-but-its-literally-a-mistake
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/NN16QyIy-shyvanas-new-bio-is-not-only-a-downgrade-of-a-decent-piece-of-lore-but-its-literally-a-mistake
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: Shyvana's new Bio is not only a downgrade of a decent piece of lore, but it's LITERALLY a mistake...
..... This is actually hilarious. I don't wanna call this "incompetence", but... I mean... What else am I supposed to call it?! Riot changed Shyvana's lore to the wrong version BY ACCIDENT and just DID NOT NOTICE for, what, over a year now?! This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I was legit angry AF about this about an hour ago. Now? I'm *laughing.*
Alzon (NA)
: Tbh I didn’t like Shyvana’s previous retcon either. I was somewhat disturbed when she went from an avenger to a refugee. The Half-Dragon’s existence should NOT revolve around her running in fear.
It's not, though. Her story ended with her turning and facing her mother, and overcoming her.
: you guys are crying about her lore when the game is a steaming pile of unbalanced shit? LOL
Check what board this was posted under.
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