Saianna (EUNE)
: > They're what i like to play because they transform league into something different. Hack'n'Slash type of game a'la Diablo 2.
> [{quoted}](name=Saianna,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qO7Bmjii,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-04-25T13:14:44.658+0000) > > Hack'n'Slash type of game a'la Diablo 2. i mean for my personal tastes, making league into a game that has more interactive kits with more reliance on skill input would be great, so long as they get rid of the unavoidable riven combos are cool, riven w isn't in its current form. The yas E spin is great but im not sure if you can actually dodge it, usually cause i play a thicc enough champ to just facetank it and then rekk 80% of yasuos that i run into that being said, i've been thinking about solutions forever, from items for mages against fighters/assassins (Spell reflectors, item cdr on ap items for protobelt and zhonyas to be up more often, etc) to like... straight up quarantine into a temporary fighter/duelist game mode where they can go with their kind now i don't mean bruisers, I mean Ability reliant high skill cap champs, hell i'd even consider some mages like azir or sylas to be in that category, as well as various assassins though.. something like talon is fine whereas something like zed could totally be given a few basic buffs for an arena ffa mode or whatever just to let him go toe to toe. I wouldn't put shit like tryn or olaf in that mode.. they have simple, counter-able kits. It would only be 'skill' champs, or champs who have a skill ceiling due to dueling capacity and actual mechanical knowledge and mastery that is significantly higher than simpler champs. So i'd include Irelia but not darius, who can be botrked to death with proper kiting and positioning. get my drift? plus who wants to deal with players like me anyways? we just want to 1v1 99% of the time. Let us go ffa, rank us, and slowly as the champ roster gets updated keep plans to put us back in. we kings of the 1v1 will return to show what duels are for. but not until mid laners and adcs can actually get some damned tools to provide entertaining combat for both sides. I don't have an issue with having a 'against fighters you gotta build x' because frankly that's what everyone should do in every matchup is think about their build and how to translate it.
: If SILVERS cannot Duo with PLATINUMS, WHY are they queued AGAINST ONE OTHER?
if i saw the op.gg i couldn't even get mad at the poor guy, he signed up for a silver matchup not a plat lane opponent did he try his best?
7ckngMad (NA)
: Doesn't she have like 20 skins already?
> [{quoted}](name=7ckngMad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pFrv7etW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-25T09:40:51.347+0000) > > Doesn't she have like 20 skins already? I mean it'd be like if they made a mad science event and didn't include singed, after removing the stun from his pool and then forgetting he exists for 4 years
: Yasuo is Unhealthy for the Game
Yasuo has all the same set of issues as jayce or riven they're amazing champions for a different game, They're what i like to play because they transform league into something different. there is something to be said about the fact that most champions that haven't had a rework since before azir, and probably like half of the others, can't actually fight fighters like this. these fighters are relatively balanced against eachother, but in the overall meta due to the lack of tools on other champions, the tools these fighters require to actualy function and deliver their class identity is overwhelming. Yasuo is kinda easy to deal with for fighter players, i can see how a mage who relies on that old Linear CC into nuke technique would have issues.
: I think her shield needs at least a 3 sec CD nerf. She has it up way too often, both in laning phase and in late game.
> [{quoted}](name=Bob the Toastr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F0flEaku,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T20:17:45.126+0000) > > I think her shield needs at least a 3 sec CD nerf. She has it up way too often, both in laning phase and in late game. Her CC is actually an issue, i feel like it should be replaced outright with like... something that fits a fighter better than an AOE stun. Tbh Maybe an AOE knockback so she can't do triple kill stuns with it, but to compensate maybe a cleanse or something more interesting. I don't mind the knockup, it's the stun that does it because it's an instant cast reliable AOE CC I think the shield is workable, and the issue with shields in general is a debatable need for a new rune or item for each class (AP, AD, Tank) that handles better against shields
: Me: I'd like to play a normals game with my friends today!
me:"Oh wow nice job outplaying me " Them: "mad cuz bad?" Me: "Wat?" My adc: "Report n00b top"
: More unmanly champions. We need more champions like Sion. Stupid beta champs lol.
> [{quoted}](name=GG VERY EZ NOOB,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RkEuNxgx,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-04-24T23:27:11.159+0000) > > More unmanly champions. We need more champions like Sion. > > Stupid beta champs lol. The new champion from riot Chad: The guy Passive: Chad only drives a really big truck, he doesn't run, and can't buy boots because he's in his 2019 dodge ram 3500 extended bed with a 45 inch lift. Chat isn't ghosted, but can run over other champs Q: Chad chugs a 12 pack of Coors silver bullets, and then pee's further than anyone else, dealing damage in a line W: Chad calls his lawyer to remove all CC E: Chad fixes something and heals allies or whatever R: Chad clearly explains ***the only obvious solution to whatever problem he decisdes there is*** buffing all allies
: More unmanly champions. We need more champions like Sion. Stupid beta champs lol.
> [{quoted}](name=GG VERY EZ NOOB,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RkEuNxgx,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-04-24T23:27:11.159+0000) > > More unmanly champions. We need more champions like Sion. > > Stupid beta champs lol. But technically she's an alpha champ right now, she'll be a beta champ when she gets released on PBE
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=wolvius,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=vVa0fksW,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-24T22:29:46.479+0000) > > When the balance team is eyeing your Vayne > https://pm1.narvii.com/7074/4deca0a6e618caf9ce6add514f0ce617c1015fear1-719-439v2_hq.jpg They don't need to worry because that's exactly what's going through the balance team's mind right now
> [{quoted}](name=Schoenberg,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=vVa0fksW,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-25T04:25:56.725+0000) > > They don't need to worry because that's exactly what's going through the balance team's mind right now They snap their fingers and half the champs are unviable
: strongest passive in the game? (just the passive, ignore other aspects)
: And there we go, another patch without Vayne or Riven nerfs
> [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tPOwEUh0,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-23T09:35:36.633+0000) > > So, Repertoir [shared](https://mobile.twitter.com/RiotRepertoir/status/1120518589235302401) plans for 9.9 and Vayne and Riven nerfs are nowhere to be seen. > > Guys at Riot, please, don’t force us to deal with that overpowered crap for another month. Riven is sitting at fucking 53% WR in Dia+ which is absolutely and utterly ridiculous for a champion that’s supposed to be mechanically intensive. She has no losing matchup right now, how is she a “western phenomenon”??? > > Meanwhile pro play champions getting nerfed 3 times in a row while at 48% WR because yes. > > At this point everyone should just spam Riven and abuse some free elo until you decide to eventually hit her the way she deserves. New rework Rivayne Vayne ult on top of riven ult, riven q acts as normal but every cast gives her next auto vayne q, also counts for the stealth on her ult.... E is skillshot condemn wherever her dash lands, Riven's 3rd auto gets vaynes w damage
BayoNX19 (NA)
: Why is an adc allowed to build an item with +65 armor and still delete everyone?
{{champion:126}} Uses the item occasionally, and in a pretty healthy way. {{champion:43}} also so frankly if ezreal is using it poorly, then fucking nerf and gut ezreal for once and revery EVERYTHING THEY REMOVED FROM THE GAME BECAUSE OF HIM
: Rageblade is core to champs that build around on hit effects rather than crit just like how something like IE is core to champs that build crit. If riot were to remove Rageblade then on hit builds would take a huge hit.
> [{quoted}](name=Best Kog NA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeFQZb0a,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-04-22T20:53:29.219+0000) > > Rageblade is core to champs that build around on hit effects rather than crit just like how something like IE is core to champs that build crit. If riot were to remove Rageblade then on hit builds would take a huge hit. But at the end of the day On-Hit and Crit are redundant anyways because all it is is different ways to auto attack, with crit dealing more in the end usually anyways
: What is your favourite thing about League?
{{champion:86}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3742}}
: A post against the removal of Rageblade because of Vayne
> [{quoted}](name=Best Kog NA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeFQZb0a,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-22T20:23:43.111+0000) > > I see a lot of people saying that it's time to just remove Rageblade because of the interaction with Vayne's silver bolts, however if Riot does this without any compensation buffs to Varus or Kog it'll just kill them. varus and kog had multiple playstyles before rageblade and frankly could just get number tweaks > > Not every champ that builds rageblade is super oppressive, Kog and Varus rn are bottom tier adcs and they have rageblade as their core item. actually the thing about rageblade, is that it breaks the hard cap rules of the game meaning certain champs will always be so strong with it that they wont be able to *Not build it* as a repercussion for that potential power spike. they will be buffed and nerfed around rageblade. this is my same objection with spear of shojin some things are too good with it, get forced into the rageblade style, and then just get to be the apex or outmoded by other rageblade champs in their niche.
BayoNX19 (NA)
: Why is an adc allowed to build an item with +65 armor and still delete everyone?
No, i'm drawing the line I'm sick and tired of everything i like getting gutted because of {{champion:81}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:145}}
: Dear Riot, This is how you can reduce complaint threads without making balance changes
Go check out the warframe community, for all of the faults DE has, one thing they do well is communicate and attempt to keep players informed on the why's and when's with weekly/biweekly twitch streams, rewards for watching, etc.
: Why do you like your role or champion?
{{champion:126}} because he is the best champion in this game, all other champions are inferior to him. If you deny this then you're not chad and you're not getting any stacys.. jayce is getting all the stacy's while you just complain about him.. but it's known that jayce has the biggest hammer in the game and it shoots the most ;)
: pretty aggressive at 30 minutes as that's a fairly standard duration for any summoners rift game. as well as the amount of pretty drastic. however , an additional " consumable " slot at any point in the game that can only hold control wards or potions might be incredibly helpful , as once everyone is at max builds it because pretty hard to get control wards down. another interesting idea would be for a 7th use able item slot to unlock at the 60 minute mark , as at that point the game is dragging on for quite some time.
> [{quoted}](name=im always salty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lsTvJWxr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-22T20:05:50.096+0000) > > pretty aggressive at 30 minutes as that's a fairly standard duration for any summoners rift game. as well as the amount of pretty drastic. > however , an additional " consumable " slot at any point in the game that can only hold control wards or potions might be incredibly helpful , as once everyone is at max builds it because pretty hard to get control wards down. > another interesting idea would be for a 7th use able item slot to unlock at the 60 minute mark , as at that point the game is dragging on for quite some time. what if t2 boots could combine with a single item (at 30-35 minutes), a second vision slot opened up for disposable vision(at about 20 minutes), and a slot for your potion (about 10 minutes)
Rioter Comments
Fizzfood (NA)
: Mundo needs a rework not buffs.
"I'm mundo, and I *Will have my revenge*
: Each time you get a sly sack of gold, the coin animation becomes larger and larger Get enough procs and it'll be a bug enough coin explosion to lag the mightiest of computers
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GQqR4Bdd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T18:08:39.688+0000) > > Each time you get a sly sack of gold, the coin animation becomes larger and larger > > Get enough procs and it'll be a bug enough coin explosion to lag the mightiest of computers I was thinking of money splashes on attacks and movement >.>
Rioter Comments
: Just because you CAN engage, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
did u sae fite? FITE? FITE! FITE NAO!!!
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1WEFjTtH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T17:36:18.425+0000) > > the thing is, kench is like old yorick > > he is completely unfun to deal with when meta, he ignores poke champs and just eats melees > > he honestly needs a rework > > also his entire theme has nothing to do with his kit, and he's a fucking catfish but he plays like a frog? > > he has nothing about 'making deals' only eating people He hasn't been meta since season 6? At least for anyone below challenger and he's not really even worth it there And yeah, I agree. If he's this much of a dumpster fire while at 40% win rate he just needs to be deleted and this is coming from a player who enjoyed playing kench for at least a whole season
> [{quoted}](name=Minimac2000,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1WEFjTtH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-19T17:41:59.936+0000) > > He hasn't been meta since season 6? At least for anyone below challenger and he's not really even worth it there > I still have nightmares of the fishman licking me to death from back in 2016, there are some champs who when obnoxiously broken are way worse to have to deal with then others for example, an OP assassin will pop you, it's enraging.. but quick An OP nautilus (Been a while but still) will ignore your pitiful attempts to deal damage not be crowd controlled and you'll still die just as often but like.. it'll take 12 seconds for him to kill you. and OP kench is all of an OP nautilus but also has an aesthetic that is fairly annoying. a fat frog man licking you to death and then eating you while waddling around is pretty angering > And yeah, I agree. If he's this much of a dumpster fire while at 40% win rate he just needs to be deleted and this is coming from a player who enjoyed playing kench for at least a whole season
: League of legends wont open
don't do it! it's a trappp!
: @Riot I already dodge when a tahm kench is locked in on my team
the thing is, kench is like old yorick he is completely unfun to deal with when meta, he ignores poke champs and just eats melees he honestly needs a rework also his entire theme has nothing to do with his kit, and he's a fucking catfish but he plays like a frog? he has nothing about 'making deals' only eating people
Rioter Comments
Alzon (NA)
: I’m sure the bears would be thankful. At least for a couple days. :^)
> [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c2AeaP1x,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T17:23:02.877+0000) > > I’m sure the bears would be thankful. At least for a couple days. :^) for a breeding pair it'd only be 150-225$, that means for only 2 grand i can release about 10 breeding pairs, they reproduce every 30 or say in litters of 8-14 rabbits the first gen only has to live for a year, there would be enough genetic diversity based on the number pool within 6 months and presumably hundreds I mean, we have a wild cat problem, poor kitties are probably starving someone think of the kitties D:
Rioter Comments
: Riot has said wukongs kit is problematic so they're poppying him until they can get him a rework.
> [{quoted}](name=Celestial Lion12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tUgAR10o,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T15:17:25.777+0000) > > Riot has said wukongs kit is problematic so they're poppying him until they can get him a rework. I wonder how long until they poppy... poppy
Soylas (NA)
: Wukong has been left out to die.
https://i.imgflip.com/2yzidk.jpg Wukong is a name cursed with ineptitude
: I got chat restriction for nothing
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-17T01:27:30.523+0000) > > yeah unless you legit did a singleton joke feed that game, which i don't think anyone really cares about except for riot, in which case yeah write in! singleton joke?
> [{quoted}](name=CamedInYourBoi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T01:57:44.325+0000) > > singleton joke? uhh it's when someone ints one death to basically mock the enemy or rustle their teammate's jimmies but then resumes trying to win the game
: A coward came upon the thought you oh-so-ironically can't remember due to not having visual sight.. your comment is pretty ableist. Blind people have poor memory now? Pretty comfortable position talking about the blind on a computer screen. Anyways, "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is just a poem, not a real applicable rule, even when it's applied. Lawsuits exist in sake of the idea of "an eye for an eye". Considering we can measure the ineffectiveness of the prison system, then sending people to prison seems to only be justified out of some sense or need for vengeance, or an apathy of some kind toward their "villain". I could just as easily say, "A taste of your own medicine", but you would probably quote Mary Poppins to me and how a "spoonful of sugar" in this case is maintain a façade of kindness to people that don't really deserve it, right? That seems to be the ongoing altruism on boards. Be more agreeable or get slandered and have the slander against you justified because you have Boards "officials" refereeing the slander.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E0o8WY3z,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T02:39:24.242+0000) > > It's almost like there's more to that quote, but I can't remember what it is on account of me being blind... no u! (Totes rekt omg 420 noscope pwnage) > [{quoted}](name=Ten Summer Suns,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E0o8WY3z,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T04:35:42.600+0000) > > A coward came upon the thought you oh-so-ironically can't remember due to not having visual sight.. your comment is pretty ableist. Blind people have poor memory now? Pretty comfortable position talking about the blind on a computer screen. > umm, you broke the policy in a hilariously hypocritical manner, and apparently i don't even think you're trolling so i don't even know how to... tbh I have zero issues on a personal level with the language either side used, but I respect that league is riot's territory not my own, same reason i don't go to my christian friend's house talking about my atheist views. because it's not my house. now i do voice my discontent with the rules but frankly i still stay within the guidelines because, as my father used to say, "They're the hammer and you're the nail" which does not mean to be submissive, but to recognize the reality of the situation. > Anyways, "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is just a poem, not a real applicable rule, even when it's applied. Lawsuits exist in sake of the idea of "an eye for an eye". Considering we can measure the ineffectiveness of the prison system, then sending people to prison seems to only be justified out of some sense or need for vengeance, or an apathy of some kind toward their "villain". I could just as easily say, "A taste of your own medicine", but you would probably quote Mary Poppins to me and how a "spoonful of sugar" in this case is maintain a façade of kindness to people that don't really deserve it, right? > the legal system isn't about an eye for an eye, it's about making sure things like a drunk driver covers medical bills and lost pay to the pedestrian he hit because that pedestrian has a life to maintain and the only justifiable way to get that guy money is to take it from the person who interrupted their life and life-maintenence routine. crime and punishment is designed to, in theory, teach lessons to those who are redeemable (such as that drunk driver) and separate the irredeemable from the rest of society (Such a serial killer).. the effectiveness of the current systems in various nations around the world is up for debate but not here. I'd say add me and argue with me in league but you got banned so... anyways an eye for an eye is the idea of petty revenge being poor justification for conflict because, from a pragmatic position, it only continues the conflict. the more practical person avoids conflict unless it's needed. I mean I had a conflict today, but it didn't escalate, i had a freelancer try to boss me around so I just kinda told him off, politely, but got the "Go fuck yourself" message across. He stopped talking to me, about four hours later he needed my help on something so he came up, we were basically nose to nose with that catty "I have to act like I like you because we have corporate clients" shit, then he averted his gaze I won, he stopped giving me any shit. You can challenge people without losing your head over it. you clearly wanted to get a point across and failed so hard you got yourself banned, if you wanted to get a point across so hard then say it with some thought and no malice, because frankly it's pointless > That seems to be the ongoing altruism on boards. Be more agreeable or get slandered and have the slander against you justified because you have Boards "officials" refereeing the slander. Altruism is a thing that younger people strive for before they realize how inherrently flawed it is as a concept. However adults comprehend that altruism is an introductory philosophy so that people understand the idea that all other people are people, and that our actions have repercussions on others. You don't need to build a food bank to give to charity, and you don't need to murder an oil exec to pick up the trash on the sidewalk in your neighborhood. Stop acting like you had any moral reason to get in an argument and just take your lumps dude. You know full well that many people regularly use the R word in every day context and aren't using it to mock the mentally handicapped but are instead claiming that a person is lacking in intellect or and idea has little intellectual depth. c'mon chill out, you lost your cool. People who lose their cool are often viewed as fools... who drool... and drop out of school... and all together they come off a cruel and definitely not cool. I'm not trying to insult you or get a rise out of you because you clearly aren't the type that likes to be the subject of what is called 'ball busting', I just want to give you some perspective, and maybe a laugh.. take it or leave it
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2ea6szN2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-17T01:29:17.911+0000) > > WRONG BOARD SO I GET TO TELL YOU NO BAD IDEA LAUGHING FISH! GO BACK TO MEMES AND GAMES > > > wait league of legends is a meme All of life is a meme. We are all part of the game whether we like it or not.. The entire world is M&G.
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2ea6szN2,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T01:30:10.386+0000) > > All of life is a meme. We are all part of the game whether we like it or not.. The entire world is M&G. If we harvest this meme energy, can we make meme materia? can we summon kekiroth?
: Jhin's shots should deal 25% max health true damage and disable healing/shields
WRONG BOARD SO I GET TO TELL YOU NO BAD IDEA LAUGHING FISH! GO BACK TO MEMES AND GAMES wait league of legends is a meme
: Is this ticketable? Or will I actually have to wait it out.
yeah unless you legit did a singleton joke feed that game, which i don't think anyone really cares about except for riot, in which case yeah write in!
: Leaving your ADC alone is like picking a favorite character in Game of Thrones
As someone who only supports when forced to and goes ezreal or lux support.... goood
: Not even sorry
you got hyper defensive over a colloquial term then lashed out, and hypocritically used another mental disability to insult the guy "Don't say the R word it's offensive, you autist!" seriously?
Laura ß (NA)
: Golden chroma skins all look ugly as fuck but you did a good job, Riot should hire you because it seems too much of a task for the current designers to make a skin resemble the splash art
> [{quoted}](name=Laura ß,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=PY2e6IaA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-16T14:48:29.943+0000) > > Golden chroma skins all look ugly as fuck but you did a good job, Riot should hire you because it seems too much of a task for the current designers to make a skin resemble the splash art I like the snowdown ones, particularly sivir and irelia, but a lot of them are kinda gross
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=uLnrVYOs,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T14:50:15.327+0000) > > Am i not allowed to disagree with that decision? > > and am i not allowed to understand that every public statement any company makes is made within the confines of "attempting the best PR delivery possible"? > > I've read it, first off i don't believe riot games understands a large portion of its audience, and has become disconnected with the fact that many people, across cultures, wish to engage in trash talk. That does not mean we need to subject those who don't want it to this trash talk, it just means that the large number of players who would actively prefer the 'toxic' environment are not able to be pragmatically reformed or culled, and they will keep making new accounts when banned, and will care less and less on each account because the first bar is gone. Well those players are the minority then as they'll just keep getting banned until they either shape up or ship out. As far as Riot not understanding trash talk is concerned, they do understand that some people like to trash talk. However, they also understand that even trash talk has its limits, and what gets punished in-game would also get punished in professional sports (Esports included) as well. > i have multiple friends with over 5 permabans. some are immature pricks sure, and others are people just poking fun, just enjoying the argument. because to them it's a part of competative gaming. Well they need to realize that times are changing and that more and more companies are starting to crack down on consistently poor behavior, and that a game being competitive is no excuse for poor behavior. I'm a competitive person myself, but I don't go out of my way to abuse or harass others when things don't go my way. I just yell and rage at the screen when I get mad as it lets me vent my frustrations without compromising my teams chances of success. > prisoner's island isn't at all what i proposed, because i proposed something that is voluntary. telling people "You can be super toxic in this server, but not in the standard server". you could then actually increase restrictions on the normal server with minimal pushback because people who prefer that argument environment would already be somewhere else. Sorry but it sounds allot like Prisoner's Island. Even if it's an opt-in experience it's still basically the same thing almost: creating an environment for the toxic players to thrive in. That's not what Riot wants-they want players to actually take the mature route when interacting with others, and if they don't or won't then they can just find another game to play. > i know most of the people trying to convince you guys use words like "snowflake" or whatever, it's lame, they're bad at advocating their cause. No arguments there. Usually the "special snowflake" arguments come out once people start disagreeing with them or won't give them the Yesman answers they want to hear. > I'm here to be polite and disagree, firmly, with the idea that california cultural norms should be enforced globally on people of many different backgrounds and belief structures. I don't like feeling like im stuck at work when im playing tbh. Compared to others who have brought up similar topics you have been polite in your disagreement, a rarity around here unfortunately. I wouldn't go so far as Riot is trying to enforce "California cultural norms' or anything like that, but more that they're trying to get people to interact with others online in a mature and respectful manner, and that just because it's an online game with anonymity doesn't give them a free pass to abuse and harass others. It's not rocket science or blasphemy or whatever to expect others to use basic human decency, nor is it outrageous for Riot to give people the boot if they refuse to interact with others in a mature and respectful manner. Many businesses do this, yet it's considered crazy when Riot does it simply because their product happens to be an online [multiplayer] game.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=uLnrVYOs,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-12T23:14:00.932+0000) > > Well those players are the minority then as they'll just keep getting banned until they either shape up or ship out. As far as Riot not understanding trash talk is concerned, they do understand that some people like to trash talk. However, they also understand that even trash talk has its limits, and what gets punished in-game would also get punished in professional sports (Esports included) as well. > > Well they need to realize that times are changing and that more and more companies are starting to crack down on consistently poor behavior, and that a game being competitive is no excuse for poor behavior. I'm a competitive person myself, but I don't go out of my way to abuse or harass others when things don't go my way. I just yell and rage at the screen when I get mad as it lets me vent my frustrations without compromising my teams chances of success. > Times are changing for human nature? there are quotes in ancient plays and epics of people trash talking eachother in competitions as way to boast their own skill or rally the troops. I think this nicety stuff is a noble attempt but honestly i think it undermines the biggest common denominator, which is that we're imperfect apes and we have complex social interactions. Not all shit talking is inherrently bad, just as not all compliments are actually good. These social interactions are definitely impulsive much of the time leading me to think it's instinctive social interactions. so i really don't think riot can wipe it out > Sorry but it sounds allot like Prisoner's Island. Even if it's an opt-in experience it's still basically the same thing almost: creating an environment for the toxic players to thrive in. That's not what Riot wants-they want players to actually take the mature route when interacting with others, and if they don't or won't then they can just find another game to play. > I don't thinnk it's mature to look at natural human behavior that will likely always occur regardless of the measures riot takes and attempt to embargo it when the evidence in my immediate surroundings, as a non toxic player who often gets friend requests after games and lots of honors, suggests that the toxicity hasn't decreased in quantity but has simply increased in negative intent. Whereas before someone would just meme to win lane with "mad cuz bad" now players will run around following you in jungle and stealing all your farm just to force the game to end hell i haad a 0/9 corki mid with warmongs rush last night. just let that guy call us all useless trash so i can be like "Prove you're better" so he wont actually throw, because you can steer those imbeciles, plus i'd love to mock him openly for his toxicity just to laugh about it. granted i'm bound by the rules so i don't, but I think it's normal interaction in many games. > No arguments there. Usually the "special snowflake" arguments come out once people start disagreeing with them or won't give them the Yesman answers they want to hear. > > Compared to others who have brought up similar topics you have been polite in your disagreement, a rarity around here unfortunately. I wouldn't go so far as Riot is trying to enforce "California cultural norms' or anything like that, but more that they're trying to get people to interact with others online in a mature and respectful manner, and that just because it's an online game with anonymity doesn't give them a free pass to abuse and harass others. It's not rocket science or blasphemy or whatever to expect others to use basic human decency, nor is it outrageous for Riot to give people the boot if they refuse to interact with others in a mature and respectful manner. Many businesses do this, yet it's considered crazy when Riot does it simply because their product happens to be an online [multiplayer] game. I don't think that's possible or plausible unless you get everyone to agree to submit to corporate stuff, there are ways that people will always naturally compete socially, which manifests more heavily when they compete in any sport or game. Someone telling me im trash is a challenge for me to improve and in no way emotionally impactful ah well, my side is losing but i do predict it will all collapse in on itself when people recognize the monolithic requirements to subdue otherwise mundane interactions instead of just encouraging /mute
: > first off i don't believe riot games understands a large portion of its audience, Actually, they understand their LARGEST BY FAR portion of the audience - those who want to play the game and not deal with everyone else's horseshit. Toxic players drive other players away. They don't want to look for ways to keep toxic players playing - they want them to stop playing. Those who get permabanned are NOT a large portion of the audience at all - we're talking a fraction of a percent as has been quoted before.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=uLnrVYOs,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T21:46:26.389+0000) > > Actually, they understand their LARGEST BY FAR portion of the audience - those who want to play the game and not deal with everyone else's horseshit. Toxic players drive other players away. They don't want to look for ways to keep toxic players playing - they want them to stop playing. Those who get permabanned are NOT a large portion of the audience at all - we're talking a fraction of a percent as has been quoted before. that depends on the community, there are actually salty scumbags and then there are the memelords who enjoy poking fun at eachother, like monkeys playing tricks, i think it's not unhealthy or actually toxic but use the term because it's the most commonly used identifier
yan1 (NA)
: Why does nidalee do mostly magic damge
she'd be more fun as an ad champ.. but that's because she would be broken if you want to play her 'ad' try a nashors and a lichbane on her XD no don't, it's not a good idea
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmrJoEbc,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:25:13.052+0000) > > You think i'm pro bruiser supremacy when really all im saying is that it shouldn't constantly be either Bruisers are raping Tanks or Tanks raping Bruisers and that's what has happened historically. > I'm a bruiser player, but hey i also play some Taric, some Poppy, and some Sion, because frankly i enjoy the game in it's whole not just the classes. > > last time tanks were viable almost no fighters or bruisers were viable at all, then before that when bruisers were viable there were no viable tanks > > so instead of saying we need to buff tanks to destroy bruisers, we should look for parody between the two classes. > > as a bruiser player i think that bruisers are delivering on their class fantasy right now, but at the expense of other classes, and those classes need buffs to experience their class fantasies better. > > > The truth is, I don't like how we're always playing OP tag in meta, in which the OP class gets gutted then the class it was dunking just runs the game and ruins it for everyone til that class gets gutted and the things it was countering come into play. Class and counter class balance philosophy has, in the past decade, proven itself to be a failure in my eyes. There needs to be a revision on how balance works entirely and less scapegoating on whatever class is overpowered for each part of the season. > > I will bet you a 30$ skin that we will see a hard tank meta later this season in which the champs everyone thinks are OP right now will be comepletely useless with little to no change in the vast majority of cases. Thise is because class design issues are just a subset of what i'm certain is the real issue which seems to be that the current approach to class balancing is rock-paper-scissors. Riot wants bruisers to counter tanks to counter skirmishers to counter bruisers.. which means in 2 out of 3 patches a third of us top laners are having a shitty shitty time on our favorite champions. > > Dude i feel bad for maokai mains right now, and worse for darius mains but the proposed fixes are just "Remove conqueror" with zero acknowledgement that there will be other issues that come into play for a season or more when that happens. > > i mean, maybe next season we can have no runes at all and riot can just balance the champs eh? (that's a joke) > > but in seriousness let's start a trend, let's be friends and talk about the greater issue. I don't want my class to be OP and i don't want it to be useless, I want the fighter fantasy to coexist with the tank fantasy instead of it literally being one man on top for seasons at a time Who da dunk said I wanted pimpership between Tanks and Bruisers should always change? I just want a meta where their both pros and flaws can be acceptable and live in a meta where they are both viable and diverse. But hey, if you are riggt abiut tank meta returning then I guess that's why Vayne's not gonna get nerfed any time soon. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmrJoEbc,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T16:11:51.173+0000) > > Who da dunk said I wanted pimpership between Tanks and Bruisers should always change? I just want a meta where their both pros and flaws can be acceptable and live in a meta where they are both viable and diverse. > But hey, if you are riggt abiut tank meta returning then I guess that's why Vayne's not gonna get nerfed any time soon. > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} On the bright side... Brand will be in every game against zyra bot lane again :D
: Superhero Vi
can it come out with a really shitty super hero jayce skin? cause by the lore they both 'save' people while basically rampaging with no regard for collateral damage to tunnel vision on their rival in piltover
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: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmrJoEbc,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:02:19.101+0000) > > in this meta i'm inclined to agree with you, BUT in other metas tanks have proven to be so dominant based on stat checking alone that i worry about the class as a whole needing the execution of their role revised > > i feel like tanks either are god tier or crap and i don't remember a time where tanks didn't feel like you were either cutting through them like butter or completely defenseless against them wet noodling you to death over the course of 40 seconds worth of cc laden hell > > i advocate for tanks to get reworked with their spirit being kept but their scaling and methodology being changed so that they can both be strong and not feel like aids without dedicating 3 items to counter them That's because in ither neta Bruisers were weaker against Tanks which woukd come online from a first item or second item spike, and would've stayed that way if there wasn't dor such an easy peasy way to render thst armor and magic ressistnuseless, making those ressistances irellevant throughout EVERY phase of the game, INCLUDING mid game where Tanks go online. I'm looking at you Conqueror, you cheecky little f00cker.
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmrJoEbc,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:11:33.854+0000) > > That's because in ither neta Bruisers were weaker against Tanks which woukd come online from a first item or second item spike, and would've stayed that way if there wasn't dor such an easy peasy way to render thst armor and magic ressistnuseless, making those ressistances irellevant throughout EVERY phase of the game, INCLUDING mid game where Tanks go online.ev > I'm looking at you Conqueror, you cheecky little f00cker. You think i'm pro bruiser supremacy when really all im saying is that it shouldn't constantly be either Bruisers are raping Tanks or Tanks raping Bruisers and that's what has happened historically. I'm a bruiser player, but hey i also play some Taric, some Poppy, and some Sion, because frankly i enjoy the game in it's whole not just the classes. last time tanks were viable almost no fighters or bruisers were viable at all, then before that when bruisers were viable there were no viable tanks so instead of saying we need to buff tanks to destroy bruisers, we should look for parody between the two classes. as a bruiser player i think that bruisers are delivering on their class fantasy right now, but at the expense of other classes, and those classes need buffs to experience their class fantasies better. The truth is, I don't like how we're always playing OP tag in meta, in which the OP class gets gutted then the class it was dunking just runs the game and ruins it for everyone til that class gets gutted and the things it was countering come into play. Class and counter class balance philosophy has, in the past decade, proven itself to be a failure in my eyes. There needs to be a revision on how balance works entirely and less scapegoating on whatever class is overpowered for each part of the season. I will bet you a 30$ skin that we will see a hard tank meta later this season in which the champs everyone thinks are OP right now will be comepletely useless with little to no change in the vast majority of cases. Thise is because class design issues are just a subset of what i'm certain is the real issue which seems to be that the current approach to class balancing is rock-paper-scissors. Riot wants bruisers to counter tanks to counter skirmishers to counter bruisers.. which means in 2 out of 3 patches a third of us top laners are having a shitty shitty time on our favorite champions. Dude i feel bad for maokai mains right now, and worse for darius mains but the proposed fixes are just "Remove conqueror" with zero acknowledgement that there will be other issues that come into play for a season or more when that happens. i mean, maybe next season we can have no runes at all and riot can just balance the champs eh? (that's a joke) but in seriousness let's start a trend, let's be friends and talk about the greater issue. I don't want my class to be OP and i don't want it to be useless, I want the fighter fantasy to coexist with the tank fantasy instead of it literally being one man on top for seasons at a time
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmrJoEbc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-12T14:42:27.261+0000) > > Because he has indirect lane sustain through his items passive (and also gets free bonus resistances on all purchases) > > Hes fine where he is. Well, no, he's toxic and should be reworked, but he's "fine" as in not grossly over or ubdertuned Did you just say a tank is toxic? Lmao you must be garbage with Voli and other Bruisers then.
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmrJoEbc,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-04-12T14:49:45.911+0000) > > Did you just say a tank is toxic? Lmao you must be garbage with Voli and other Bruisers then. in this meta i'm inclined to agree with you, BUT in other metas tanks have proven to be so dominant based on stat checking alone that i worry about the class as a whole needing the execution of their role revised i feel like tanks either are god tier or crap and i don't remember a time where tanks didn't feel like you were either cutting through them like butter or completely defenseless against them wet noodling you to death over the course of 40 seconds worth of cc laden hell i advocate for tanks to get reworked with their spirit being kept but their scaling and methodology being changed so that they can both be strong and not feel like aids without dedicating 3 items to counter them
Solargeo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=Z3AE1z3X,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-11T17:43:37.317+0000) > > garen's ult is only good for the passive, the execute is worthless because you've already crit them to death what about a Tank Garen?
> [{quoted}](name=Solargeo,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=Z3AE1z3X,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-04-11T20:40:52.304+0000) > > what about a Tank Garen? tank vayne is better than tank garen let that sink in highest rated garen mains are building damage
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