: because klepto only works on champions, its generally only worth when you can proc it consistently. so unless you plan on playing them into solo lanes, you wont have enough enemy interaction to make use of it. much less these champions want to all in you in a flat out duel, so they don't make efficient use of quick poke to proc it anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8WpAZlpL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T02:28:16.702+0000) > > because klepto only works on champions, its generally only worth when you can proc it consistently. so unless you plan on playing them into solo lanes, you wont have enough enemy interaction to make use of it. much less these champions want to all in you in a flat out duel, so they don't make efficient use of quick poke to proc it anyway. Have you not seen this man's xin/yi/warwick support?{{item:3303}}
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: There's no such thing as a "ranged bruiser". To qualify as a bruiser, you have to be melee. "Ranged bruisers" always turn into "poke for free" champions and then they move in for the kill without having to fight their opponent with full HP. For example, Jayce isn't a bruiser in his ranged form at all. And his QW doing that much damage + Dark Harvest is pure stupidity. When he goes in melee for free, does his combo and then again punts you away so that you don't get to retaliate... where's the interaction except with his hammer with my face?
> [{quoted}](name=Tomoe Gozen,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=00010000000000000003,timestamp=2019-06-18T08:58:00.157+0000) > > There's no such thing as a "ranged bruiser". > To qualify as a bruiser, you have to be melee. > > "Ranged bruisers" always turn into "poke for free" champions and then they move in for the kill without having to fight their opponent with full HP. For example, Jayce isn't a bruiser in his ranged form at all. And his QW doing that much damage + Dark Harvest is pure stupidity. When he goes in melee for free, does his combo and then again punts you away so that you don't get to retaliate... where's the interaction except with his hammer with my face? Which is why I said to reduce his burst and put him more in a sustain damage niche so that his offense will be to be a b tier adc and a b tier bruiser all at once
: Maybe cause Jayce is unhealthy when he has access to items like that?
> [{quoted}](name=NineTailedMystic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:29:23.221+0000) > > Maybe cause Jayce is unhealthy when he has access to items like that? Jayce is way less healthy as a lethality champ dunking on mages His damage output should be slashed but he should be incentivized to go for more sustained damage thicc style
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-06-17T19:15:39.945+0000) > > If you want to talk about issues with ranged champs then go play some diablo as a ranged champ, then come back and imagine how much better the game would be if ADCs could have their attacks dodged or intercepted, and had to predict where you're going to go. why are you so angry? you should know ranged are the strongest class fundamentally in league? not sure why your even bringing up diablo when diablo isn't even in the same genre.
> [{quoted}](name=On My Kill List,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T19:36:07.738+0000) > > why are you so angry? > you should know ranged are the strongest class fundamentally in league? > not sure why your even bringing up diablo when diablo isn't even in the same genre. Im suggesting a change to auto attacks to solve the issue... not angry And lol format borrows a lot from arpgs
: It's 90° outside and we just got a f* tornado warning
: same with klepto and aftershock. its pointless trying to balance these keystones while ranged champions end up breaking them every other patch. its all so tiresome. say we do nerf karma or nerf lux or whoever else is abusing it this patch? someone else will just take their place next month or two.
> [{quoted}](name=On My Kill List,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-17T19:11:38.591+0000) > > same with klepto and aftershock. > its pointless trying to balance these keystones while ranged champions end up breaking them every other patch. > its all so tiresome. > say we do nerf karma or nerf lux or whoever else is abusing it this patch? > someone else will just take their place next month or two. If you want to talk about issues with ranged champs then go play some diablo as a ranged champ, then come back and imagine how much better the game would be if ADCs could have their attacks dodged or intercepted, and had to predict where you're going to go.
: Karma mains asked for a gameplay update. We did not ask for number buffs.
: No other ranged champion uses Iceborn Gauntlet as a core item. Nidalee sometimes builds it, but she could still use it in Cougar Form, because it's melee. Ezreal, Viktor, and Karma have historically been known to abuse the item.
> [{quoted}](name=Makattack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T19:02:59.446+0000) > > No other ranged champion uses Iceborn Gauntlet as a core item. Nidalee sometimes builds it, but she could still use it in Cougar Form, because it's melee. Ezreal, Viktor, and Karma have historically been known to abuse the item. Bruiser jayce does because every decent offensive bruiser item has been completely ripped away from him Like i know for a fact that a sizeable portion of jayce mains want the bruiser style and not this stupid lethality shit
: Hashinshin: MR items are weak, Armor items are too strong
I like how the guy who bitched his way into conqueror spear of shojin jax being a thing still tries to talk about balance He had a good point about top lane being a garbage heap
AIQ (NA)
: I've never seen an EZ go FM, the slow is only 20% for him.
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:50:26.895+0000) > > I've never seen an EZ go FM, the slow is only 20% for him. It was meta end of season 7, but it wasn't changed he just got some buff somewhere else and went back to iceborn. either way the point I'm making is why the fuck are we trying to nerf items which would result in hurting other champs due to an issue with ezreal, who ruins everything, and karma, who's going to get a rework anyways.
: Ezreal isn't the only one to abuse it, but even then, why is it fair for him to be able to build CDR, armor, and have slows on his Q while being one of the safest champions in the game? Same thing with Karma. She's ranged, has a haste, a root, and a slow, why is it fair that she can build IBG?
> [{quoted}](name=Makattack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:45:40.154+0000) > > Ezreal isn't the only one to abuse it, but even then, why is it fair for him to be able to build CDR, armor, and have slows on his Q while being one of the safest champions in the game? Same thing with Karma. She's ranged, has a haste, a root, and a slow, why is it fair that she can build IBG? Why is it fair to remove an item from every single ranged champ just because ezreal is fucking aids? How many fucking items are we going to see removed/reworked because of fucking ezreal? Fuck that champ.
AIQ (NA)
: You may want to clarify that you mean {{item:3025}} and not {{item:3022}} your title says Frozen Gauntlet It's **Iceborn **Gauntlet {{item:3025}} and Frozen **Mallet **{{item:3022}}
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:43:52.530+0000) > > You may want to clarify that you mean {{item:3025}} and not {{item:3022}} your title says Frozen Gauntlet > > It's **Iceborn **Gauntlet and Frozen **Mallet **{{item:3022}} don't both amount to the same thing on ezreal? the mallet build goes with triforce
AIQ (NA)
: He means {{item:3025}}
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:41:45.140+0000) > > He means {{item:3025}} FROZEN MALLET EZREAL IS ALSO A THING THOUGH
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KEMAHWjP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:38:25.540+0000) > > Guys, what he's saying is that playing kayle currently is the equivalent of getting a free win for rubbing shards of glass on your anus for about 15-20 minutes straight > > > as in, you feel terrible until you're just borderline broken at which point you win > > both ends need adjustment Yh that is pretty true but most players know how to make kayle useless before late game comes
> [{quoted}](name=metroman450,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KEMAHWjP,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:37:22.705+0000) > > Yh that is pretty true but most players know how to make kayle useless before late game comes she eventually just lives long enough to make your efforts kinda moot though no?
: Iceborn Gauntlet doesn't give 700 Hp. I think you're mistaken. You're thinking about Frozen Mallet (and yes, I understand that the title phrased it as Frozen Gauntlet, but it's clear he's talking about Iceborn Gauntlet). {{item:3025}} not {{item:3022}}
> [{quoted}](name=Makattack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:36:54.294+0000) > > Iceborn Gauntlet doesn't give 700 Hp. I think you're mistaken. You're thinking about Frozen Mallet (and yes, I understand that the title phrased it as Frozen Gauntlet, but it's clear he's talking about Iceborn Gauntlet). {{item:3025}} not {{item:3022}} even if, Can we stop removing items from ranged bruisers because of ezreal causing issues? Ezreal always caused issues and has hurt so many other champs, just fucking change his q to not do on hit BOOM
AIQ (NA)
: Translation: >Is there any chance that URF will come out this year or will RIOT not want to? (Aside from when it came out earlier this year)
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LME9Qioq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:29:17.985+0000) > > Translation: So why didn't you UPVOTE AND ALLCAPS REPLY?
: I finally escaped Bronze!!!! FINALLY!!!
Enjoy silver, where everyone is so toxic I actually stopped playing
: > [{quoted}](name=ThatShinyPiplup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c9TvWYbY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-15T20:17:27.296+0000) > > NB3 is a trashy person, this is new to absolutely no one lol. As bad as pants?
> [{quoted}](name=FistulaOfTheAnus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c9TvWYbY,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-15T20:19:17.722+0000) > > As bad as pants? At least pants is entertaining
: its obv they play favorites lol
> [{quoted}](name=XJ99999999999999,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nzVah6wI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:45:03.837+0000) > > its obv they play favorites lol How dare you insinuate that riot has a bias in any way shape or capacity, now you shut up and think about what a terrible thing you've said... oh and and don't forget to buy the new jhin skin! Also vayne buffs planned for worlds
REMAKEXD (EUW)
: URFFFFF
I DONT KNOW WHAT THIS GUY SAID BUT I THINK HE WANTS MORE URF SO I UPVOTED AND ALLCAPS REPLIED WITH APPROVAL!
: I agree. I'm a Karma OTP, and there's no reason why she should be able to use it. Ranged champions also shouldn't be able to use Klepto at full effectiveness.
*edit, I misread "Frozen gauntlet" as "frozen Mallet" Feel free to mock me still but Know that I know I was wrong > [{quoted}](name=Makattack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oQETVdLH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:05:08.745+0000) > > I agree. I'm a Karma OTP, and there's no reason why she should be able to use it. Ranged champions also shouldn't be able to use Klepto at full effectiveness. So are you suggesting to put in a replacement 700 HP item for ranged top laners? or are you just trying to gut champs to suit mages
: Make frozen gauntlet melee only please?
No? it's literally only viable on urgot who has it as core
: What is this NB3 thing everyone so mad about?
yeah im unsubbing from nb3 and subbing to nub
Rioter Comments
: A champion that I should learn .
{{champion:42}} is low key amazing, you just have to find enough water to wash off the shame after.. or you can bask in it
: Why isn't kayle getting buffed
Guys, what he's saying is that playing kayle currently is the equivalent of getting a free win for rubbing shards of glass on your anus for about 15-20 minutes straight as in, you feel terrible until you're just borderline broken at which point you win both ends need adjustment
Rioter Comments
knobblez (NA)
: Taking jungle camps from the jungler
If you play a mage bot lane you get to take blue bc you're the APC and red bc you're the ADC CHECKMATE JUNGLERS (It's a joke)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T01:46:24.768+0000) > > Noone should be unstoppable via stats bro lol almost anyone can become unstoppable, with the exception of a few really bad champs.
> [{quoted}](name=DevilSlayerGray,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T17:13:31.206+0000) > > lol almost anyone can become unstoppable, with the exception of a few really bad champs. Im not saying just by beinf overfed
Rioter Comments
Melodee (OCE)
: let's remove toxic behavior
You can't it's a variable of human interaction to have arguments, that number inflates greatly when in competition. So when you're with strangers who you think are costing you a resource (LP) because of their (perceived) incompetence then you're more likely to feel aggrivated. BUT that doesn't mean you have to force out those emotions, but noone talks about what to do when you've already become tilted. What i'm saying is that league of legends actually encourages tilt as a game. As riot doesn't want a toxic atmosphere, they're trying to do a 3 strike system on the action of shit like complaining, instead of only targeting actively toxic behavior. That's why we haven't seen a cleanup. In addition i think the avenue they've chosen is purely ideological, in that they want to try to reform people into a standard that seems really feasible on paper, but since teenagers-25 year olds are the primary audience... It's actually not feasible. Hormones make everything worse. if you're a teenage boy with a minor temper problem then in this environment you're basically a ragisaurus rex. in addition to all of that some people actually just want to do some chill flames, just ball busting and whatnot. This is why I think honor should dictate matchmaking and that we should implement a troll island.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aphilon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:34:44.919+0000) > > Old Akali was just a worse katarina, either she snowballed out of control and couldn't be killed. Or she was useless. At least now she has a little bit of utility and team damage instead of just 100-0 someone. i disagree. she was high risk high reward. it was up to player skill to play smart and get fed to become unstoppable.
> [{quoted}](name=DevilSlayerGray,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-06-14T17:08:45.173+0000) > > i disagree. she was high risk high reward. it was up to player skill to play smart and get fed to become unstoppable. Noone should be unstoppable via stats bro
: why did i get punished for doing the same thing as nightblue
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:36:38.191+0000) > > Those words don't string together cohesively > > You play a class that literally has a slave, who is usually your emotional whipping boy, and then you right click people, and then get on the forums whenever you lose games and blame poor balance that your class actually has enemies who can close the gap on your 2 1400 damage crits per second and lifesteal, armor pen, etc. > > And kiting has been streamlined so immensely that it's not a skill anymore it's just the norm. It's like WoW how the old hunters had to staggerstep and the new ones just run in circle mashing their rotation and disengage > > adc takes zero skill, it just gets hard countered, and the only reason this has to work this way is because at its core ADC is an overpowered concept. That's really funny coming from the guy who literally plays a class of champions who just has to run at you, mashing buttons and the only thing they have to worry about is being tanky enough to survive the initial engage. Whooo, I killed someone as Garen because I *ran at them, hit Q, and pressed R!* What a talented man that person is; give them a fucking metal.
> [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=00090000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:48:56.693+0000) > > That's really funny coming from the guy who literally plays a class of champions who just has to run at you, mashing buttons and the only thing they have to worry about is being tanky enough to survive the initial engage. > > Whooo, I killed someone as Garen because I *ran at them, hit Q, and pressed R!* What a talented man that person is; give them a fucking metal. I only play garen when im meming though I dont play that type of champ at all actually other than garen and i build him full crit usually
: Smoking too much kills your libido sex drive and makes it harder for you to get it up. You're welcome. That'll bee 600$ please.
> [{quoted}](name=OtakuBurrito,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:33:46.653+0000) > > Smoking too much kills your libido sex drive and makes it harder for you to get it up. > > You're welcome. > > That'll bee 600$ please. Yeah but I'm an aspie, Not being social enough to get laid more than once a month is my specialty, my sex drive lowering is actually a boon bro
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:12:12.684+0000) > > You could play yasuo adc, then it'd all work out I'm an ADC main, not a scum bag. I have standards
> [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:30:01.057+0000) > > I'm an ADC main, not a scum bag. I have standards Those words don't string together cohesively You play a class that literally has a slave, who is usually your emotional whipping boy, and then you right click people, and then get on the forums whenever you lose games and blame poor balance that your class actually has enemies who can close the gap on your 2 1400 damage crits per second and lifesteal, armor pen, etc. And kiting has been streamlined so immensely that it's not a skill anymore it's just the norm. It's like WoW how the old hunters had to staggerstep and the new ones just run in circle mashing their rotation and disengage adc takes zero skill, it just gets hard countered, and the only reason this has to work this way is because at its core ADC is an overpowered concept.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:10:17.245+0000) > > Unfortunately I like going to the shooting range, it's a personal thing and I don't want to debate it, but if you get perscribed marijuana you can't actually own a firearm even though it's legal. But yeah my guy is a certified distributer I just really am sick of being forced to chose between nightly intoxication or being a social alien in constant pain. > > also all the pain meds I've ever come across are either an aspirin or an opiate, I'm not sure medication is the best way to go anymore. I really don't like addiction. Most ranges have their own firearms you can use, you can still comply that way.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:21:01.137+0000) > > Most ranges have their own firearms you can use, you can still comply that way. I'm not going to give up my ability to own or carry just because I smoke a joint instead of taking opiates due to old ass laws put in place because 80 years ago white people were scared of black people
Neriticc (EUW)
: Irelia nerfed 50 times, still highest ban rate in pro leagues globally.
> [{quoted}](name=Neriticc,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HRGLALVM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-13T15:43:46.950+0000) > > Builds the same two items of Trinity Force + Steraks and has more HP than a juggernaut champion. Has infinite mobility while being more tanky than a juggernaut champion. On demand uncounterable damage reduction. > > Stupid fucking champion gets nerfed 50 times and still proceeds to land 1 stun in lane and auto win the trade through Q and auto attack spam. NICE FUCKING CHAMPION. 1. seems pointless when you can just play {{champion:104}} and just right click for auto winning trades
: A post to appreciate Keanu Reeves
no, his true glory was when he went around in time
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: {{champion:17}}
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KaRAxn1J,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:10:43.354+0000) > > {{champion:17}} The rework saddens me
: I take her over Riven any day.
> [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KaRAxn1J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:09:20.436+0000) > > I take her over Riven any day. Oh go fucking pretend dropping barrels and pressing Q takes skill
: Irelia and Akali need to be reworked again.
> [{quoted}](name=Demonblade Yasuo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-13T00:05:27.218+0000) > > Irelia and Akali need to be reworked again. why? they were perfect on release, showing that the game was going to go in a more skill oriented direction and then a bunch of shithead mage mains cried until they both got nerfed and arbitrarily restricted. Having all that shit means options, options mean decisions, decisions and execution during short periods of time, while also reacting, is skill. sorry but linear champs are trash and should be removed, this includes shit like lux or every adc.
: As an ADC Main, Thank You. :( Everyone just assumes when you're frustrated and complain that you're just being whiney when in reality, you're just frustrated that no one on the team wants to do the bare minimum to allow you to play the game. Its extremely frustrating to win lane but know it won't matter because the support is playing someone like Brand or Lux or, lately, Yuumi and your jungle/mid/top all picked carries. It never fails that the game is lost because it doesn't matter; you can't 1v5 no matter how fed you are and even if your support is a Yuumi, I often find I don't see her after laning phase; she's usually attached herself to one of the solo laners who usually need the least amount of protection. Another thing to mention is that I don't think that most people realize just how *large* some of the enemy gap closers are. Just for a frame of reference, at level 18, Tristana has the highest normal AA range of any ADC in the game at 661. That is her *normal AA Range* with no abilities or RFC increasing it. 661 units away. Now compare that to the ranges of several assassins and diver's dashes/engages: {{champion:238}} His W's Target range is 650 but the effective radius of it is 1950. His Ult range also is 625. He literally only has to W forward and then ult and he is range of a Tristana at her max AA range. {{champion:164}} Hookshot has an affective combined range of 1200. She can just Hook shot from behind her team and the Tristana will *never* know and even better, will be stunned. And that is while being inside her team. This isn't even acknowledging her ult which gives her an *additional 475 range.* {{champion:84}} Shruiken flip is fairer than other assassins, I will readily admit but as a skill shot, it has a range of 650 and getting hit with it makes it a global dash. Her ult also has a range of 600 on the first cast and a range of 700 on the second. {{champion:131}} Her ult range is actually fucking *huge.* 825 is her ult range and if she hits you with her Q(which is weird to dodge in general and has a range of 900), she literally gets to do that *twice.* {{champion:121}} Not only does this fucker have stealth so he can literally just free walk up and nab Tristana with no warning but he also has a jump with a range of 700 to 900. So once she blows her jump(which is a longer CD than Kha'zix's as well; 14 seconds compared to the bugs *12*) to get away from his stealth, he can literally free jump her with no real counter play from Tristana herself. And these are just a few examples. If you want you can compare these to less safe ADCs like Jinx or Kog who use abilities to extend their range further than Trist(Jinx gets up too 700 range in rocket form and Kog gets up to 710); it still doesn't look amazing. There's only so much an ADC can do when everyone champion has a dash or blink larger than their AA range.
> [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:05:57.341+0000) > > As an ADC Main, Thank You. :( Everyone just assumes when you're frustrated and complain that you're just being whiney when in reality, you're just frustrated that no one on the team wants to do the bare minimum to allow you to play the game. Its extremely frustrating to win lane but know it won't matter because the support is playing someone like Brand or Lux or, lately, Yuumi and your jungle/mid/top all picked carries. It never fails that the game is lost because it doesn't matter; you can't 1v5 no matter how fed you are and even if your support is a Yuumi, I often find I don't see her after laning phase; she's usually attached herself to one of the solo laners who usually need the least amount of protection. > > Another thing to mention is that I don't think that most people realize just how *large* some of the enemy gap closers are. Just for a frame of reference, at level 18, Tristana has the highest normal AA range of any ADC in the game at 661. That is her *normal AA Range* with no abilities or RFC increasing it. 661 units away. Now compare that to the ranges of several assassins and diver's dashes/engages: > > {{champion:238}} His W's Target range is 650 but the effective radius of it is 1950. His Ult range also is 625. He literally only has to W forward and then ult and he is range of a Tristana at her max AA range. > {{champion:164}} Hookshot has an affective combined range of 1200. She can just Hook shot from behind her team and the Tristana will *never* know and even better, will be stunned. And that is while being inside her team. This isn't even acknowledging her ult which gives her an *additional 475 range.* > {{champion:84}} Shruiken flip is fairer than other assassins, I will readily admit but as a skill shot, it has a range of 650 and getting hit with it makes it a global dash. Her ult also has a range of 600 on the first cast and a range of 700 on the second. > {{champion:131}} Her ult range is actually fucking *huge.* 825 is her ult range and if she hits you with her Q(which is weird to dodge in general and has a range of 900), she literally gets to do that *twice.* > {{champion:121}} Not only does this fucker have stealth so he can literally just free walk up and nab Tristana with no warning but he also has a jump with a range of 700 to 900. So once she blows her jump(which is a longer CD than Kha'zix's as well; 14 seconds compared to the bugs *12*) to get away from his stealth, he can literally free jump her with no real counter play from Tristana herself. > > And these are just a few examples. If you want you can compare these to less safe ADCs like Jinx or Kog who use abilities to extend their range further than Trist(Jinx gets up too 700 range in rocket form and Kog gets up to 710); it still doesn't look amazing. There's only so much an ADC can do when everyone champion has a dash or blink larger than their AA range. You could play yasuo adc, then it'd all work out
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: See if you can get a medical prescription for weed or other painkillers. The medical version is very different from the street version, if you dont use the medical variety atm
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-14T11:40:33.481+0000) > > See if you can get a medical prescription for weed or other painkillers. The medical version is very different from the street version, if you dont use the medical variety atm Unfortunately I like going to the shooting range, it's a personal thing and I don't want to debate it, but if you get perscribed marijuana you can't actually own a firearm even though it's legal. But yeah my guy is a certified distributer I just really am sick of being forced to chose between nightly intoxication or being a social alien in constant pain. also all the pain meds I've ever come across are either an aspirin or an opiate, I'm not sure medication is the best way to go anymore. I really don't like addiction.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-14T10:09:06.432+0000) > > You can't prevent arthritis or asd But neither of those are the topic of discussion
> [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T11:30:32.357+0000) > > But neither of those are the topic of discussion Yeah they were, the topic is "Does anyone have any alternative solutions to marijuana or medicine to deal with chronic pain or the negative impacts of ASD because i'm sick of being stoned and I don't like the health risks of it", my doctor kept trying to give me pills but when i'd look into them almost every pill is radically more dangerous with side effects like heart disease, psychosis, suicidal depression, opiod addiction, or liver failure to name just a few (And seriously the list is way longer) so pills don't work
: Yes, those are some of the game modes, but there are many more.
> [{quoted}](name=whatsleftofyou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QEBxZ7OQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T00:41:18.048+0000) > > Yes, those are some of the game modes, but there are many more. I meant as a single mode
afmghost (NA)
: It may not be the answer you want, but the best cure for any ailment, whether it be disease, injury, addiction, or anything else, would be prevention.
> [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-14T03:54:23.486+0000) > > It may not be the answer you want, but the best cure for any ailment, whether it be disease, injury, addiction, or anything else, would be prevention. You can't prevent arthritis or asd
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-13T17:28:32.075+0000) > > You think Jayce is a good Champ, so something in your brain might be weird. Really? Im not quite sure why me having a main makes you feel like it's ok for you to start insulting my aforementioned Asperger syndrome but either way you really don't have any reason to try to make my day shittier other than actual sadism. Either way bro your insult didn't phase me it's just the sheer pussy nature of that kind of trolling that makes me wonder what's wrong with people like you. You actually hide on the internet and attempt to use words to hurt people because you think it's funny. You're actually not even trolling. But you know what? It's all good
: Have you tried edibles or making weed butter? You don't want it too strong so it might take a couple tries to figure out what helps you but doesn't get you stoned. If you make weed butter you bake something with it, like muffins or brownies. I'm no expert at cooking with it, so I can't tell you how much to add, but all the resources should be online.
> [{quoted}](name=Hypochondria9,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-13T19:23:44.836+0000) > > Have you tried edibles or making weed butter? You don't want it too strong so it might take a couple tries to figure out what helps you but doesn't get you stoned. > > If you make weed butter you bake something with it, like muffins or brownies. I'm no expert at cooking with it, so I can't tell you how much to add, but all the resources should be online. weed cookies is playing with fire, like you dont get high until later, and you have this big plate of thc infused chocolate or whatever infront of you, and you just eat a little more, letting that flavor stick in your mouth until BOOM you're a quarter ounce's worth of weed levels of intoxicated in front of a big pile of delicious brownies, at which point it makes itself even worse and then you wake up on your couch and i mean it's fine.. but like man does it suck.
: Asking for medical advice on a League of Legends forum? How did you get here? Just be warned to take any response here with a hefty grain of salt. I think you should be talking to your doctor about this, not gamers. Maybe go to a reddit forum more dedicated to this topic for opinions and all. Either way, good luck. Arthritis sucks.
> [{quoted}](name=A Rabid Dog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YIflw6iI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-13T16:48:01.207+0000) > > Asking for medical advice on a League of Legends forum? How did you get here? > Just be warned to take any response here with a hefty grain of salt. I think you should be talking to your doctor about this, not gamers. Maybe go to a reddit forum more dedicated to this topic for opinions and all. > > Either way, good luck. Arthritis sucks. tbh I was just asking because I assume there are others entering their 30s right about now and might have found ways that work
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