: 5% of the playerbase enjoys the game
Good point, we need more posts like this.
Keyru (NA)
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FNC Jinx (NA)
: The recent Zed post in gameplay with the season 4 faker video is completely wrong.
That Zed has 21 kills... https://youtu.be/vUjQJ7HRNUY?t=434 season 4 zed btw
: you can go into a custom game, spend the same amount of gold on zed and have the vayne at same stats, you will quickly find out that vayne dies to that combo now 100% of the time.
Eh Idk things have changed with adcs aswell, vayne would have tabis instead of berzerkers. And I honestly think she might live it, ill try to get someone to try it later today. Ill post it under your comment if I get around to it. I also need to find how much those items costed in season 3.
: > [{quoted}](name=Handin Out Naps,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gW8W7AFI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-09-20T18:43:55.348+0000) > >[DELETED CONTENT REMOVED - ULANOPO] It's your topic bub. The burden of proof is on you to defend your point. All I see is a season 4 Faker not 100-0'ing an ADC with Zed. Want to see a 100 and 1 montages of a player better than you 100-0'ing people on Zed? Google Redmercy.
: I think damage has without a doubt increased over the season, but not as much as people think.
Yeah I dont disagree there, runes have been added so there is definitely stuff like electrocute and other damage runes.
MadNoff (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Handin Out Naps,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gW8W7AFI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-20T17:49:02.462+0000) > > Because that thread is already over, no one will ever see why he is wrong and people will think he is right. Trust me I rarely make threads, its just the only way to get people to see it at this point. Why is proving him wrong so important? The topic itself is of negligible importance and will be forgotten shortly. Post your response in the main thread, it may very well get more attention there.
Because I've been seeing people complain about Zed for 4 seasons on the boards and there is rarely proof, if someone tries to post something with proof you can bet I will call out where they are wrong. And nah I honestly think it will just get buried if I post there.
MadNoff (NA)
: ***
Because that thread is already over, no one will ever see why he is wrong and people will think he is right. Trust me I rarely make threads, its just the only way to get people to see it at this point.
Rioter Comments
: Why not post on that other account so maybe we could see proof of this “multiple silver 1s vs plats” in SoloQ Edit: stop responding talking about how shit flex queue is, this is known. Also FlexQ has a sesperate MMR.
People showing proof on the boards XD.
: For the love of low ranks: Find a Way to Nerf Zed
>Low elo players cant lane to save theie lives so nerf zed please. Yes I also see nothing wrong with this. Btw the guy that went 15/0 has a 42% wr on Zed and I dont think its actually possible to get 32 kills unless you are against bots lol.
: And that is OK, so long as you don't act like it was hard to do.
Your most recent game against Zed you were against a gold player that has 55k mastery points on Zed. You were playing Anivia that counters the hell out of Zed and somehow managed to die 4 minutes in. Its not that Zed is too easy to play, it is just that he abuses bad laning like most mobile champions. Sadly I understand this is the boards and it is mostly comprised of low elo mage mains that will never understand that it is their gameplay that needs improving, but oh well. Against good opponents you actually are required to be a good Zed player. And just being honest I think most Zed players actually have a lot of Zed games. The craziest thing you have said is that you believe people play Zed because of "how easy he is". I dont know about you, but if I want to play an "easy" champ, I would settle for stuff like Yi, Trynd, Janna, lux, and tanks. Shit if I want to play an easier assassin I would go for Talon. But saying you want to play one of the highest skill CAP champs in the game just because he is"easy" is insane. People play highskill cap champions to become good and master their outplay potential, etc. Personally all see here is another biased and angry player who cant admit that he isnt very good.
: Zed is way too over played, can we all finally admit it is because he is very easy to play?
Glory97 (EUW)
: Literally every single immobile champion is unplayable right now?
Tbh a lot of the complaints on the boards can literally be solved by just playing better, but its easier to just complain I guess.
: I like being one shot by a Zed who misses his skill shot.
Its so weird to me that you hear this complaint so often but there is never a replay.
: Zed needs to be fixed. Here's why.
Ur insane for posting this on the boards lol.
: throwback to season 7 when assassins were talking about how assassin metas are so much better.
If you actually think this meta is worse than the ardent meta im at a loss for words. Pretty sure the only people that enjoyed the ardent meta were lulu and janna players.
: Tbh if we're gonna include those then we have to throw {{item:3022}} {{item:3025}}{{item:3071}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3072}} on the AD side
Questionable considering not every ad champion can build those items. But most ap champs can build those items.
: 5 months? I think you are missing out on something buddy. Cancer like Zed has been always viable in any meta since his release. I've never seen him being underplayed once
: atleast asol can be countered easily in lane
: Too many champions are dumpstered because of pros.
Its not just pros it also affects d3+. They are nerfed because good players can abuse them.
: No. Illabethe directly stated the passive damage is huge. OP responded he didn't proc passive. Illabethe devouted another entire post about how Talon proc'd the passive while he did not (and he kept claiming how Talon proc'd it with aas in condescending manner). At this point he realized he's wrong and instead of changing his position he strawmen'd into "but he used something else and that's enough" to stray from it. Dusk justifiedly thought Illabethe thought the ND crit, Ignite and Electrocute were enough not to kill but to proc the passive, as Illabethe has shown enough he doesn't know how it works and has been arguing the passive was used this far. To which Illabethe responds with douhcebaggy: > Read the comment. Then delete..... He, who has been claiming this far the passive was proc'd (showing he doesn't know what the effect looks like), has been claiming aas help proc it (showing he doesn't know how it works), then tried to stray the discussion and has the audacity to say something like that to someone justifiedly believing he's still talking aboiut the passive, as we already count on him not knowing what it does. Automated Riven then just refused to allow Illabethe to stray the discussion to cover him being wrong AND act like douchebag by still pointing out how he's been wrong about the passive and that he has no right to say the "delete comment" part (shit like that). I do pay attention, enough attention not to get distracted by "Oh don't look that way, look this way" unlike you who seemingly completely ignored the history of this discussion because "muh last post".
No you are just too stuck trying to prove a point that he already agrees with lmao. You aren't seeing anything everyone else doesn't see. I just dont have the care to continue on a point he already agrees with. As much as he tries to hide the fact he is wrong, there just isnt a reason to care lol.
: > His passive damage is huge > -there were 4 hits to proc his passive. No, we are reading very well, Illabethe is just dead wrong and is now trying to cover it after condescending comments.
Yikes now you are misreading my comment too lol. I clearly said his last comment not his first comment. Here ill post it again for you. Pay attention when you read it this time. >He did proc Noxian Diplomacy's crit, Ignite. Electrocute, 1 Q hit, 2 auto attacks. That's enough
: Dude just adapt to the meta and abandon the champs you find enjoyable and play assassins /s
Or just do what assassin players did when mages shit on them for a couple years in a row and deal with it. But then again this is more of a bad player problem. You could always try what these guys do and learn how to lane http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=julien http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=yeonbee Oh here is a d1 velkoz player that is just beating everyone right now aswell http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=loveshock Dude is insane, he somehow won against a super broken champion Zed aswell. He rushed armguard xd, must be some weird high elo tactic. Funny part of high elo games is how everyone is playing mages mid lane in the "assassin meta", maybe they are just bad and need to learn how to play league though xd.
: +eloctrocute which is overtuned, and ignite which got buffed recently. I wish champions power came from their kit rather than keystones.
Doesn't really have anything to do with what I said, but ok thanks for letting me know.
: The escapes are toxic. {{champion:91}} {{champion:238}} Why does Zed's Q count more than once for electrocute?
Because he uses 3 abilities to proc it.
LEAFERA (EUNE)
: talon strong lvl 2 comes from his ability to proc passive, he miss that and still kills me
He hit you with 2 autos and an empowered crit instead tho...
: Read his passive. The first thing you should have done was to check to ensure your right before you post shit like that. Here. I will help. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Talon And the relevant part >Innate: Talon's abilities wound enemy Champion icon.png champions and epic monsters every time they deal damage, lasting 6 seconds and stacking up to 3 times. > >Talon's next basic attack against enemies with 3 wounds consume them, causing them to bleed for 75 - 245 (based on level) (+ 200% bonus AD) physical damage over 2 seconds, with each tick occurring every 0.125 seconds The key word here is abilities wound enemies. Now, if you rewatch the video you will see that talon flashed poorly and cause the second part of his w to miss ryze. That means that the only two abilities to hit him was W1 and his empowered Q. That means two stacks and no passive proc.
You are misreading his last comment he didn't mention his passive. I think he understands his passive didnt proc.
Pyrosan (NA)
: I don't think anybody has individually singled out assassins for having empathsis on macroplay Who exactly are you quoting? Or are you just ranting and making stuff up?
If anything I feel like ive heard that used for other classes ._.
: Here is why Zed is bullshit to deal with.
>Zed's 120/90/60 second cooldown, not even mentioning that he builds , which is 40% cooldown reducation, so it'll be on a 24 second cooldown level 16. That's some spicy math.
: I think zed is a balance champ
I feel like this is how every person that complains about Zed thinks lmao.
5050BS (NA)
: ??WTF Riot ?? Yasuo changes
I like when the champions the boards hate get buffed. Makes for funny threads.
: Akali is how assassins should function.
Or you can just r q e e auto r q. Pretty low counterplay because you are stunned and cant dodge her e. She can also r flash to guarantee stun.
: What the fuck is this damage?
Diana has literally always done that lol. People just acted like her burst pattern hasn't been ridiculous forever though I guess.
: I Hate The Disrespect For Low Elo Players
What high elo player has made fun of a low elo player for saying Talon and Zoe are broken? You guys get called bad for complaining about Yasuo, Zed, etc. Not Zoe and Talon who are obvious problems.
koshkyra (NA)
: Why does Zed have better poke and waveclear than 90% of mages
Is your mouse plugged in? If it isn't you might wanna start there, it will make it a bit easier to dodge zed's poke.
saltran (EUW)
: Unpopular (?) opinion: We should all assemble and try to remove the Gameplay Boards
Rename it to memes & games 2
: I'm so tired of seeing "why is AD better than AP" threads. Legit losing IQ every time I see one
Wow, very impressive thread. This is actually the first thread from a mage player that is looking at both sides of things. I respect this, you also talked about how safe you can play compared to Zed and Talon as a poke mage when other players on here are convinced assassins are safe. I dont upvoted ever, but Ill upvoted this. Hope more boards members read this and learn to look at both sides of an arguement.
: The new way to farm upvotes in gameplay
That's the cycle tbh. It just goes Lee --> Yasuo --> Zed. Always has, nothing new here.
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Reading through Zed's change history in the last two seasons absolutely disgusts me
How do I come here every morning and find a new complaint thread about Zed that makes little to no sense. At a certain point this just gets really sad. I dont understand how people run around upvoting threads like this then ever expect riot to take them seriously, this is just so full of flaws.
: I love how this is a meme post and people are downvoting it
Tbh I did put it in the wrong place. But gameplay is basically memes and games at this point.
S0kaX (EUNE)
: https://i.imgur.com/IjHUeOM.png?noredirect
: E isn't part of his combo.
: Did you mean 150 armor, or did you mess up the champion name?
Im just memeing friend. I put it in the wrong place though. I was inspired by another well thought out post :). Does this mean you will kill my post now?
Rioter Comments
: 150 MR, Ryze takes 85% of my HP with w q e combo. Ok?
: 150 armor, Zed takes 85% of my HP with w q e combo. Ok?
Would really appreciate a replay. Edit: Oh are you talking about the urf game? Where Zed probably hit you with multiple abilities and was 5k gold ahead. Well cant say I dont expect stuff like this from the boards.
mzicio (EUW)
: Draw a line between OP and broken. OP is numerical strenght, broken is toxic and hard to balance kit ({{champion:268}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:13}}). He is currently the best assassin in the game, he always floats around 50% winrate even at high elo and he's receiving continuous buffs. I like to play mages mid and I'd like not to delay my powerspike to get Zhonya's. In case I'm doing good, he can just get Maw plus MR boots which greatly outshines Zhonya and Tabis. I physically refuse to say I'm bad. I'm sorry, but I'm not. Zed is unfair against one whole class of champions, he's like Lissandra for assassins. I'm not ok with him being in the game in his current state. Downvote me as much as you want, it doesn't make you right because yours are opinions and i'm bringing facts.
> Draw a line between OP and broken. OP is numerical strenght, broken is toxic and hard to balance kit Completely irrelevant to this. You understand what I'm saying. >He is currently the best assassin in the game, he always floats around 50% win rate even at high elo and he's receiving continuous buffs. I like to play mages mid and I'd like not to delay my power spike to get Zhonya's. In case I'm doing good, he can just get Maw plus MR boots which greatly outshines Zhonya and Tabis. That's just wrong, both Rengar and Talon are way better than Zed. A lot of the other assassins are in the same exact place in high elo. He floats around a 50% wr at plat sure. And we cant get a good sample for actual high elo statistics, where he is mostly played by one tricks. He hasn't received buffs since 8.7 and all those changes were because duskblade was nerfed and assassins weren't even in a good spot at the time. I dont even see you playing mid lane on your account, and if you for some reason have another account where you play those mages that you love to play so much I have some simple things that I'd like to explain. You are a mage, you dont spike like an assassin, you don't have the same need to snowball as an assassin. You can play the smart game and take resolve/buy armor. One cloth armor completely negates the lethality of serrated dirk. Armguard just makes you almost impossible to kill unless you are just not dodging any harass and getting poked into kill range. Every good mage player will build armguard and probably take resolve to completely deny Zed's kill pressure. If you dont let Zed snowball you are already winning. And honestly I dont understand this commotion about Hexdrinker, I haven't built hexdrinker in years, and haven't seen good Zed players build hexdrinker in a long ass time because of how it slows down your spikes. > I physically refuse to say I'm bad. I'm sorry, but I'm not. Zed is unfair against one whole class of champions, he's like Lissandra for assassins. Well again I'm sorry but you are silver, you aren't actually good at the game. As much as you physically refuse to admit it, its true you aren't very good. The fact that you are complaining about laning against Zed just further proves that you aren't a good player. Zed does't counter a whole class of champions, you are just refusing to use the options given to you and are probably just not the better player. Actual high elo Zed players like LL Stylish and Laceration say he is bad. One of the best solo q players in the world Apdo says Zed is terrible. Shit if you ask any high elo Twisted Fate player they will probably say that Zed is an easy lane. And Twisted Fate has historically been one of the easier lanes for Zed. > I'm not ok with him being in the game in his current state. Down vote me as much as you want, it doesn't make you right because yours are opinions and i'm bringing facts. That's fine, you don't have to be. You are low elo after all, you dont actually understand much about the game so most of your complaints are just wrong. And btw I don't use the vote system, haven't used it in years to be honest. I've always hated it.
mzicio (EUW)
: You think Zed is currently fair to play against? YOU must be joking.
I think he just doesnt play against bad players. Its a common misconception that Zed is broken and its not your own skill level that is bad. Its hard for players to admit that they arent that great, and against champions like Zed that can punish mistakes it seems to be more evident. :/.
apollö (NA)
: I play zed and he does too much damage.
They are growing more intelligent. They are claiming to play zed now :o.
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