: Why am I playing with/against people indefinitely better than me?
I'm not sure how you want Riot to go about this. If a diamond queues with a silver and a bronze, what do you think should be the fair match? That's the issue, is that when people with really high mmr or really low mmr in normals, it's either going to take a _really_ long time, or they can pair them up with people of lower mmr.
: No, Jax is not broken, he is just a bit stronger pick right now, I mean, his items are expensive and his early game is as bad as kassadin's, and that is how he is balanced, shit early game and a strong late, he is like nasus but he needs gold not stacks
You mean champs need gold to buy items?
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: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eVpEvzjY,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-11-14T22:33:44.152+0000) > > They shouldn't have buffed him. He was balanced before and this is coming from someone who enjoys playing Pyke Fun fact they meant to nerf him not buff him
Nope they meant to change his build path and playstyle, not nerf or buff. It's called an adjustment
: When will riot admit they made mistake with Pyke as champion ?
OP is also the guy who thinks Wukong has a lot of counterplay. If you, in any world, think Wukong has more counterplay than Pyke, you're wrong.
Ryzê (NA)
: Any champion is strong in good hands. He's strong in a coordinated team, if that's what you mean. There are ways to balance around coordinated play.
But here's the issue, Ryze at 100% efficiency is almost a god compared to, let's say, a Mundo at 100 %. Also I don't think Riot can spare giving him his 6th rework yet
exxpose (NA)
: Why is Riot rewarding early-game comps and punishing late game comps?
I remember the exact OPPOSITE complaint not too long ago. "They have a Kog/Vayne/Jinx so we just lose after 30 minutes." If a team gets a lead, they should be able to snowball said lead, or else what's the point of getting ahead in the first place?
PigDaddy (EUNE)
: neither is assassins steamrolling everything when they get 2 kill
That's the point of a lead, to snowball a bigger lead. If the assassin pushes their lead into the rest of the map, they've done their job.
Ryzê (NA)
: What does that even mean?
He's too strong with good players. A major culprit is most likely his W.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rester,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FEwMWoKo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-13T12:33:59.356+0000) > > Give us URF to pass the time. Give us Nexus Blitz back
> [{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FEwMWoKo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-13T19:06:12.870+0000) > > Give us Nexus Blitz back It's coming back 8.24!
Ryzê (NA)
: Now look at Ryze statistics and tell me that Riven/Kat need to be buffed.
Ryze doesn't really have much room for buffs atm
: sure it doesn't have something to do with that the average life in a team fight is only a few seconds now? or that guardian angel is an AD item or that baron basically makes every minion a super minion? or that what used to be a rare crowd control is now commonplace (knockup ) ? how about how klepto gives RNG amounts of gold to you that can exceed 100 if you get a good draw?
Yikes, saying Klepto is part of the issue. Baron is supposed to be a strong, game finisher objective, but it should be as easy it is to take currently. CC is also the counter to something the boards hates; mobility. But the funny thing is, in low Elo NO ONE gets hard CC.
: For the First Time in what seems like months, League of Legends feels fulfilling.
: I got 14 day suspension when I just literally spent this whole year trying to get to plat....
I would try to ask Riot support if you do truly believe your ban was undeserving. You seem genuine though. I hope you figure this stuff out. Btw you might want message them several times after the first response, it depends on which Rioter you get
: Its more like people used to be able to play what they want and be able to carry. Now its like even if you do well, if your team doesn't... Well its your loss. Causing champions that are more "OP" to become even more oppressive Because even if you're capable as a main of whatever champion, they can just get fed off your allies And now you can't do anything. One of the reasons I think Faker has been struggling as the game has transitioned from solo carry to lightest anchor matches.
This is a lot of the side effect of the player base overall getting better. They know how to actually stop a 1 man carry
: Yes and then it's back to normal. You are aware that you can cost someone days worth of work by raiding em yha? A little salt is to be expected.
Shit talking is fine, that's normal. However, slurs? That's not really as fine
: We rust players are a very...unique form of toxic. Please don't pair us with league players. The typical kys and shit over there is generally basic banter and not really toxic. Keep in mind the type of game rust IS and that's why people consider us "toxic". We're meant to be bandits or whatever our desires are and play accordingly.
But Rust players are also the types to say slurs after you raid them
: Leaving your contact information for the most toxic community in video games to see. They expect it.
"Most toxic community" You ever played CS:GO? Or Rust? Or many other online games?
: > [{quoted}](name=Lumière,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YmTImLEh,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2018-11-10T08:21:42.142+0000) > > Hi. I play Evelynn too and the reason why Evelynn was nerfed is not really that. Evelynn needs her charm until she gets her second item. Let`s say Lich Bane. After that, she doesn`t even have to use it, as her burst is too good. Execution + bonus damage out of stealth + Q x 4. The nerfs are deserved. And no, not only ADC mains complained. Most of the base did. It`s just too frustrating to play against an assasin who can get out of combat for 4 secs, and regen. As Riot said, her current state is what she should be. No matter the nerfs, Evelynn`s late is one of the best. That is simply just not true, anyone with a brain to fight against Evelynn can easily deal with her. She still needs her charm. The only time she didn't was when she got ahead. Which is how every champ works. AD assassins have two items dedicated to their kit and they don't bother nerfing them. When a Zed only two kills in can ONE SHOT our Alistar without Zed even using his ult. It's "He is fed." But Evelynn is 10 kills ahead and it's because she is broken? I have played Evelynn since the beginning. I loved old Eve so much. New Eve even more so. I have played her non-stop. She did not deserve the nerf. People confuse her being fed with her being broken. She is designed to shred people. But until she is at least 5 kills ahead. She still HELLA needs her charm to be able to one shot someone. People also confuse her damage to be in whole, her own. When a VAST majority comes from keystones. I.E. Electrocute and Dark Harvest. She did not need the nerf at all. People who don't know how to play against her just threw a tantrum and Riot said. "Lol, k." Some of her nerfs before, even I said she needed. But this one was wrong. VERY wrong. And no, I am not bias, the % nerf she first got was one even I said needed to happen ASAP. But there is no reason for this one. None.
> [{quoted}](name=Mistress Nyx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YmTImLEh,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2018-11-10T22:34:09.498+0000) > > That is simply just not true, anyone with a brain to fight against Evelynn can easily deal with her. She still needs her charm. The only time she didn't was when she got ahead. Which is how every champ works. AD assassins have two items dedicated to their kit and they don't bother nerfing them. When a Zed only two kills in can ONE SHOT our Alistar without Zed even using his ult. It's "He is fed." But Evelynn is 10 kills ahead and it's because she is broken? I have played Evelynn since the beginning. I loved old Eve so much. New Eve even more so. I have played her non-stop. She did not deserve the nerf. People confuse her being fed with her being broken. She is designed to shred people. But until she is at least 5 kills ahead. She still HELLA needs her charm to be able to one shot someone. People also confuse her damage to be in whole, her own. When a VAST majority comes from keystones. I.E. Electrocute and Dark Harvest. She did not need the nerf at all. People who don't know how to play against her just threw a tantrum and Riot said. "Lol, k." > > Some of her nerfs before, even I said she needed. But this one was wrong. VERY wrong. And no, I am not bias, the % nerf she first got was one even I said needed to happen ASAP. But there is no reason for this one. None. Yikes, She has one of the highest winrates, playrates, _and_ ban rates, even after nerfs. The situation is different with evelynn, because she has _permastealth_, where as Zed does not. Also, "anyone with a brain to fight against Evelynn can easily deal with her." Then why does Eve get a higher winrate the higher elo it is?
Umbrã (NA)
: Honestly? I can see where you're coming from, but Rito needed her range (from 525 to 500?correct me if I'm wrong) and that just kinda screwed her. If she went to her previous range (525 or 550, I, sadly, don't recall) or buffed it even a Tad more she would be balanced enough. Her kit revolves around getting resets and attack speed, so the argument that 90% is stupid is pretty much pointless since if you get enough AS on her she out performs a number of ADCs. When taking neutral objectives it's essentially having a 1000+ smite on your team (for bigger objectives) and if your JG screws up, oh look, kalista pressed e, got a reset and because or Runaan's Hurricane she just got a penta. Wow, interaction. Besides, I personally feel like her kit fits her lore. She was a sort of scout/fleet warrior and get got spookified. You got the dash passive, the w, and the "fetch me their souls" ult and e. I feel that the only reason she is under performing as of right now is because she can't lane bully with her recently (as in past 6 months) nerd to her attack range. And she's designed to be a lane bully. So if she were to get a small tweak/buff to her attack range, she would be in a half decent spot. Feel free to talk about it, I'm open to ideas/opinions. Hopefully Riot sees this omegalul. BUFF HER RANGE RITO, PLZ.
Her range should never be buffed if her passive is in tact, it simply invalidates too many champs.
Gntex (NA)
: THE NEW URGOT OF LEAGUE.
The two aren't really comparable. Urgot, from the get go, was a shittily designed mess. His kit didn't fit together and lacked an overall theme. Was he an adc? Why was his ulti like that then? Was he a tank? Why did he not scale with resists or health? Where as Kalista is still a fine pick, but she should _never_ be allowed to be viable with her current kit. Her passive is an absolute atrocity, it's something that is definitely unique, but it's just unfair. Her passive takes up like 50% of her power allowance, not letting any other abilities shine. She's someone that should stay in the gutter until Riot can give her proper work, but there's a _looong_ line ahead of her.
Kazekiba (NA)
: Give her a W that does something in fights, remove the 90% AD autos, and a new fucking ult that isnt HURR TEAM COORDINATION PRO PLAY so that shes not literal trolling in soloq. Congrats shes balanceable
No, she can't exist with her current passive.
: Sejuani used to be a fair and fun champion overall. Now it's behind us.
She legit had a ranged amumu ulti. She was literally a better amumu who was not only tankier, but dealt more damage.
Naalith (NA)
: I don't even play Sejuani, this is about a wider trend that started with Azir and Ryze years ago and has spread to upwards of 15 champions. I'd rather champions are too OP in D1+ and break the game in pro play than the other 99% of the playerbase gets characters removed or "soft reworked" aka have their abilities ruined and their kits made unfun. A long time ago I was on the side of people who said pro play and regular players should be on the same balance patch, but seeing pros get exponentially better and pro play become more lucrative for Riot thus nerfing champs used in pro play has changed my mind. Like honestly look at this list of champions who have been hard nerfed or soft reworked and made unfun because of pro. I'm sure people will add or subtract a few champs from my list and it's not like everyone agrees but come on, it's getting ridiculous. {{champion:136}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:3}}{{champion:150}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:57}}{{champion:516}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:163}} It's not my inability to "adapt" that's the issue, I have 64 mastery 7 champions and will continue to grow that list for the foreseeable future. My issue is the game becoming far less fun for an infinitesimally small portion of the playerbase.
No, it's better to balance the game for high elo, not low elo. The skill floor is constantly increasing, this is visible just by seeing how terrible challenger players were back in the day (like season 2 or 3). They thought that lee sin R Flash was the most insane mechanic in the entire game, now legitimate bronze players can do it with ease. You can't look at that list and tell me a single one of those champions wasn't insane in the right hands (with the exception of Karma). These were champions that could almost solo dictate a game in high elo. Low elo players can always improve on the champion, seeing as a lot of people won't be able to punish them. But that's simply not the case with higher elo players. It does suck having your main nerfed, but in all reality, it shouldn't affect a one trick/main almost at all.
Naalith (NA)
: Thank you, pro play, for deleting yet another champion. We're getting into the double digits of characters normal players aren't allowed to play and it's fucking stupid.
Hey, or you could adapt to the changes? But that would be more difficult than just complaining.
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: I know that and i don't fucking care. I want clear rules of the game, that I can learn and get better at using. I cannot get better by abusing stupid shit that shouldn't even work. There is no skill included in abusing Viktor top or Ekko top or Graves jng. They are all braindead at those roles. You don't even need to learn how to play them. I know what meta is. I am just saying that I don't want off-meta and meta in League. I want it be based on rules.
That's impossible, _every single online game_ will have a meta. There's _always_ going to be a best strategy. Learn how to adapt. When the rules of the game change, you can either change with it or get left behind and complain all day.
Kaisha (NA)
: Mages in mid? All you see in mid now are assassins. The only time its not an assassin is when all the good assassins get banned. Mages are now regulated to support... and don't even do that well.
Then are TF and Liss two of the most picked mid laners? :thinking:
: I pretty much only saw {{champion:12}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:498}}{{champion:39}}{{champion:7}} in most of the matches I watched. Sure there were some interesting picks, but those were 1 off picks, but these guys {{champion:266}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:145}} being picked every match nearly.
Yeah, but that's how meta works, of course they're gonna pick who's most likely to succeed. But it's still incredible to see all of the strange picks (such as heim).
: Good meme. ) so viewing pro play > balance and fun in game? Fun lcs > actually playing the game ...
Well I had fun with both :)
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hotarse (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nOLzbX7Z,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-07T09:38:00.930+0000) > > Like when? Beta? Lol It wasn't until around season 4/5 that a majority of new champion releases had excessive amounts of free mobility (mobility that did not require a target to dash to). https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/fqqA1dwT-the-ultimate-guide-to-toxic-mobility
Hey you could learn to play around it or adapt? But I guess complaining is easier
: So, in other words, "you shouldn't have fun playing this _video game_" Is that what you're trying to say?
Or don't play ranked if you want to fuck around is it that difficult?
: I hope that in the event of a third world war. And you and your kids are starving and a Nazi, or kkk member, or BLM or antifa member, offers you food to survive. And when you turn that food down to avoid humanizing someone with a radical and racist thought process that you have the intelectual consistancy to believe you did right. And then when your kids starve to death I hope you have the mental fortitude to maintain your belief that it's the opposition who are animals, and not you yourself. The dehuminazation of people groups based on political values is disgusting.
You are braindead fucking stupid if you think a nazi would offer me food. Do you not remember who would _literally_ exterminate black people if given the chance? Do you not remember who the world was fighting against 80 years ago? You're a legit dumb ass If I knew a someone was a nazi and they're starving in the streets and I had food on me, I would rather throw that shit in the lake.
: Wasn't playing this 'game' in prior seasons. But even for a few decades of games i can tell that jungling needed much more skill and got 10x strategy, than now. Preparation before the game was way more impactful(runes/masteries) Supports were supporting and they didn't have as much money, as adc. Vision wasn't that nerfed. And of course heroes kit even if was more simple, but in result required much more skill. Not to forget many heroes had different playstyle.(ap trist, adc tf for example)
Let me tell you from experience, the old runes and masteries were not preparation at all. You pretty much took the same runes for every game. Supports had it awful, they were glorified ward bots. No one liked supporting at all. You're right, vision shouldn't have been nerfed so heavily. And it's harder to balance kits like that, as one playstyle will be better. Riot doesn't want to have kits like that anymore, as it's _much_ harder to balance.
: There's no 'strategy' in lol right now. Whole game is like battlerite with creeps.
200 IQ. I highly doubt you could tell strategy in prior seasons either
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Anatera (NA)
: No shit. I said this about runes reforged months ago, but everyone downvoted me for who the fuck knows why. I guess some people just need all that time to figure out the obvious. Runes reforged has done more damage to this game than anything in League's entire history. The only way to undo all the bad is simply to revert all of League to before that patch went through. Riot won't do this though, not even for the sake of the game's health, because that would mean admitting they made a mistake and they can't have that. They have investors to think about.
Riot's admitted plenty mistakes before? They said they messed up with several reworks before.
: So we're not supposed to let "bad" people do good things because they're "bad"?
No, it's fine if people want to do good things, but these people are completely different. A nazi doing something "good" means nothing because at the end of the day, they're still a nazi
: Nazis are humans... just because they have a horrible belief doesnt make them less human.
: well, the more money nazis donate the less they actually have + more children helped. WHo cares what nazis say. they are a despicable set of people. But when you political ideals gets in the way of helping kids, thats pretty messed up.
The issue is that it starts to humanize Nazis. People know Nazis are fucking shitty, but when they start helping kids, people's views change. There are such things as Nazi apologists already
: to be fair, when it comes to helping children, anything short of illegal money is fair game. If said judes refused money because of an opinion they disagreed with then thats just fucked up. no strings attached donations should be taken no matter the source because as a hospital the primary goal should be helping children. Not making a politcial statement.
Imagine literal Nazis donating money to it right. Now you say it's fair game, but who else wants to support a charity that takes income from nazis? And in the end, do you really want nazis being able to claim that they helped cure cancer? It would only help them spread their ideals
: If people only had sex when they were trying to have offspring then it wouldn't be a concern. If people only had sex after marriage it wouldn't be a concern. That's not the reality of the world we live in. Putting blind faith in the teens with various upbringings you threw into a house with minimal supervision is a just asking for trouble. You can minimize the chances of that trouble by being selective of who you put in the house, which is what they do by not mixing the sexes in the same house. As we've already seen, there are organizations willing to take a chance on all female teams. They're just not ready to try mixed teams yet.
Except most of the players are at least in their early twenties, if not mid to late. I don't think they have minimal supervision either? They're practically working all the time, either scrimming, solo queue, or watching vods. Literally EVERY pro player has the option to date someone, whether they do or not is up to them, as you may sacrifice performance for it. This is why many pro players don't date, it's simply too difficult to do both at the same time.
: He's not wrong, it's part of why the team was willing to give her/him a shot. No chance of a pregnancy on the team, no problem for the team owners. They would not have given a naturally born woman that chance, trans or not.
Or you could have faith in your players to not be complete and utter apes who only care about fucking like some primates who need to produce offspring.
: Surrendering the game at 15 is the most fun I have playing league
Why play then? You clearly show discontent for the game. That's how it works, if a team gets a lead, they can then _snowball_ said lead. That's the point in getting ahead, so you can get more ahead and win.
: The kind that prefer right-wings channels to be banned from youtube rather than curing child cancer ?
Huh? It's almost like those are two entirely different issues. One of them was spreading shit about holocaust denial, the other isn't a job that every person can do
: > [{quoted}](name=Happy Love Pile,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BcAAuWly,comment-id=00060000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-04T23:12:35.061+0000) > > Ironic, you have 500 games on Urgot I have been playing him since he was top 50 , so i don't get your logic here i legit playing him since the start of session
And people have been playing Sion since before he was strong. Maybe learn to play against the meta and how to beat some of the champs
Limrick (NA)
: Except the problem is that even though the reworks were bad, they were reverted to an even worse state(except Kog ofc).
No, Rengar is fine. This is probably the healthiest he's ever been.
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