: Wow, crying about something that hasn't happened and has no indication of happening. That's . . . impressive.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ohJl5RME,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-21T13:02:34.692+0000) > > Wow, crying about something that hasn't happened and has no indication of happening. That's . . . impressive. Or I’m complaining about something that has already happened twice. Or was that something you conveniently missed?
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: Yep. Look at Jax right now, and tell me how in gods name you are gonna deal with him if he pops R with Spear.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=96wWHZrf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-20T18:30:33.363+0000) > > Yep. Look at Jax right now, and tell me how in gods name you are gonna deal with him if he pops R with Spear. The idea is you don’t let him get to that point, which is very doable if you’ve the opportunity to counterpick him. In fact, there are very few match-ups where he’s outright favored in. Still don’t think he needed that’s q buff, even if it makes little difference.
: All of these kept the core elements of the champion in tact I terms of gameplay. Poppy still E's u into walls to whack you with Qs. Yorick still sends ghouls fmto eat your face off. Still heals from minions, still summons a revenant with ulti and still splitpushes. Evelynn still sneaks around the map permastealthed b4 jumping someone. Taric still heals himself and nearby allies with Q. Still provides ambient armor to teammates with W and still Stuns with E. The only one who was significantly changed was Sion, and even then it was more like them adding so much stuff to his bare bones kit that he came out looking quite different as opposed to them.making him a different champion. Aayox tho? He is unrecognizable from his old self.outside his ultimate kinda fusing his passive with his old R. His gameplay plan osnt the same at all anymore he isnt a DPS duelist that keeps going and going and going. He is just a big standard generic bruiser now. And I say this as someone who never even liked pre rework Aatrox, ganeplaywise. Litterally negative bias.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaddyFantome,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4TAZvo9K,comment-id=000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-18T16:08:42.180+0000) > > All of these kept the core elements of the champion in tact I terms of gameplay. > > Poppy still E's u into walls to whack you with Qs. > Yorick still sends ghouls fmto eat your face off. Still heals from minions, still summons a revenant with ulti and still splitpushes. > > Evelynn still sneaks around the map permastealthed b4 jumping someone. > Taric still heals himself and nearby allies with Q. Still provides ambient armor to teammates with W and still Stuns with E. > > The only one who was significantly changed was Sion, and even then it was more like them adding so much stuff to his bare bones kit that he came out looking quite different as opposed to them.making him a different champion. > > Aayox tho? He is unrecognizable from his old self.outside his ultimate kinda fusing his passive with his old R. > > His gameplay plan osnt the same at all anymore he isnt a DPS duelist that keeps going and going and going. > > He is just a big standard generic bruiser now. > > And I say this as someone who never even liked pre rework Aatrox, ganeplaywise. > Litterally negative bias. You’re manipulating the facts. Poppy had the most unhealthy ult in the game, and that was why they needed to change he significantly. Her ult is what gave her “hyper carry” potential, but it’s also why she had to remain in the dumpster. The fact that they removed that alone is practically a rebranded champion. Yes she kept some other aspects, but those weren’t problems. They also added a new ult, a new passive shield concept, a new skill that hasn’t really existed before that halted mobility. She is essentially a new champion. Yorick is very similar to Poppy - his ult was incredibly powerful because he could essentially give his teammate an extra life. And if you played in season 1 or season 2 before riot gutted yorick into the ground, you’d know it was necessary. He clicked on you, sustained and removed you from the game. New yorick is far more interactive and doesn’t have a cloning ult that makes him scale no matter what. Yes he has his zombie summoner aspect, but it’s much healthier and they also gave him the ability to summon a large monster and a wall that you can tackle, things that didn’t exist. Evelyn is close to her old self but she had a huge problem: she was all-in or bust. I realize reworks don’t tend to be popular with mains, but people loathed having Evelynn on their teams because she either got all the kills and snowballed or she did nothing. Only high elo evelynn mains could ever be trustworthy enough to be creative with her skills to be useful all game, but the rest of the community did not share this feeling. Shaco still has the same problem - most people ban shaco because they don’t want him on their team. Taric was point and click and all stat buffering with no interaction at all. He also shredded armor, which was strange to have. Taric was an ancient design that needed updating. The fact is, though he does the same things, they are done drastically differently - with actual gameplay. And he also has an invulnerability spell, something he never had. Let’s be honest about sion: he was a mess. He was intended to be an AD hyper bruiser that could never die and fought forever in the middle of a team. How was he actually used? As a cheesy burst mage. He is practically a new champion that just kept the undead zombie theme. Save for his infinite scaling HP, he is practically a different champion. Even his theme changed, old sion was an Arnold zombie rip off that everyone laughed at, new sion is the thing nightmares are made of. Reworks are not a black and white process. There is variance across kits, and variance across the developers who make them. I’m not pretending reworks have been perfect, but generally the “failed reworks” work from a concept that is failed in itself: see every iteration of Ryze for an example. Aatrox isn’t much different, there wasn’t much to work with. He was a point and click auto attacker that really had no scaling. He relied on his ult to revive him and scaled with lifesteal, a stat that is easy to reduce. The only way Aatrox could have ever been good is if he was overpowered as hell. The fact is, he needed a major overhaul. I’m not defending his kit, because I think it’s actually pretty dumb. But it’s infinitely better than what he used to be. And it gives him actual purpose. I don’t really care if all 6 pre-rework Aatrox mains aren’t happy with his rework, he was a trash design and needed a full update.
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Kazekiba (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=roZEhnnJ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-16T21:23:05.727+0000) > > Alistar, Janna, Lulu, Karma, supports that are good at disengaging. Idk if Lulu is a good suggestion...
> [{quoted}](name=Kazekiba,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=roZEhnnJ,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-08-16T22:24:35.222+0000) > > Idk if Lulu is a good suggestion... Lulu can single shut any diving champion down, ranged or melee alike.
enshine (NA)
: any league quotes you unironically use in life?
Idk I was cutting the grass one day and ran over a branch, and it spit back of it at me and gave me a nice little gash on my leg and I thought of malphite for some reason and just yelled “HURT”
: > [{quoted}](name=Meritas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l8pdBU02,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-15T13:23:06.023+0000) > > To be fair, at this point I find it almost pointless to do spotlights, as sometimes they're irrelevant just one year after their release because of how common mini-reworks are(sometimes even for new champions or straight reworked ones). It's pretty annoying actually. ^^^ Besides the actual amount of work that needs to be done with translating for multiple languages, coordinating releases, blah blah blah, as of now rework spotlights are invalidated...well, as early as a few weeks after release. Take Aatrox's spotlight. It still says he has heal/shield reduction, a revive and two dashes on E. Irelia's still says she has a disarm, shieldbreaking and more. Akali's has the true stealth blah ablah bleh. Point is that spotlights are apparently a decent amount of work for something that'll be invalidated or changed in a few patches, for good or bad.
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l8pdBU02,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-15T16:09:56.530+0000) > > ^^^ > > Besides the actual amount of work that needs to be done with translating for multiple languages, coordinating releases, blah blah blah, as of now rework spotlights are invalidated...well, as early as a few weeks after release. > > Take Aatrox's spotlight. It still says he has heal/shield reduction, a revive and two dashes on E. Irelia's still says she has a disarm, shieldbreaking and more. Akali's has the true stealth blah ablah bleh. Point is that spotlights are apparently a decent amount of work for something that'll be invalidated or changed in a few patches, for good or bad. Well, they have to have people do translations regardless since they constantly patch and those patches come with dialogue. In fact, I don’t think rework videos need to necessarily be there every time they do one but I would also say that was wht made riot cool. It felt like what they did mattered to them, now it’s just like “yeh, uh new champ here.” And it’s for pantheon, who is an old character that received a prettt substantial change - a rework video would’ve been cool. I’ve got the client to see what he actually does (not the site though!)
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Hi im 12 (EUNE)
: eh you'll be quite fine blind picking renekton, riven, camille, ranged tops, aatrox etc.
> [{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ovAOcue1,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-08-14T02:03:06.010+0000) > > eh you'll be quite fine blind picking renekton, riven, camille, ranged tops, aatrox etc. Even those champions can get hard-countered. Jax should never be a safe first pick; if he is, something is wrong.
Hi im 12 (EUNE)
: as someone who often Q maxes on jax this will be a very welcomed change, I do have to say that jax is ... quite weak right now, you can never blind pick him and his only good in a few matchups.
> [{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ovAOcue1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-14T01:38:49.420+0000) > > as someone who often Q maxes on jax this will be a very welcomed change, I do have to say that jax is ... quite weak right now, you can never blind pick him and his only good in a few matchups. You can’t blind pick anyone right now
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ovAOcue1,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-14T00:06:33.862+0000) > > Uhm > > I’m pretty sure riot didn’t buff Jax so you can fight fiora/ez top lol > > He’s supposed to have SOME weaknesses, heaven forbid range is one of them. And that’s only early on. The fiora was not the issue. I couldn’t even go near my wave bc of Ezreals poke and I could fight him bc of his e. The Jax buff is supposed to help against range poke a little bit by allowing him to get on to targets and get out without taking as much abuse. Ranged top layer have been an issue for a long time and I’m glad to see riot stepping up and doing something.
The issue is overblown for most champions, and Jax is historically considered a strong pick against most ranged champions not named kennen
: I’m a Jax’s main as well with over 1 mil points on the guy and I have tested the buff on pbe. It’s not as good as you think. It doesn’t affect his jungling at all and is only meant for top lane to help against ranged matchups which is a good thing. I just played against an Ezreal and fiora duo top and I could not leave my turret bc of the poke ez was putting out. The buff is supposed to help with things like this.
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ovAOcue1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T00:00:34.887+0000) > > I’m a Jax’s main as well with over 1 mil points on the guy and I have tested the buff on pbe. It’s not as good as you think. It doesn’t affect his jungling at all and is only meant for top lane to help against ranged matchups which is a good thing. I just played against an Ezreal and fiora duo top and I could not leave my turret bc of the poke ez was putting out. The buff is supposed to help with things like this. Uhm I’m pretty sure riot didn’t buff Jax so you can fight fiora/ez top lol He’s supposed to have SOME weaknesses, heaven forbid range is one of them. And that’s only early on.
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: “i hAtE iT wHeN pEoPlE cAlL uS gReEdy” - rItO tRoNdOmOrE
> [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vJliE5RE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-13T21:59:00.871+0000) > > “i hAtE iT wHeN pEoPlE cAlL uS gReEdy” - rItO tRoNdOmOrE “bUtT wE r SmAlL iNdIaNaPoLiS gRaInInG cOmPaNy!”
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: > [{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HcEqEvln,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-12T06:56:15.775+0000) > > That's possibly the worst implication I've ever seen on here. Why? It’s literally true. There are easier matchups and harder ones, but picking one champ into another won’t automatically win you game, not even lane in many cases. Dota is the game where these things matter.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HcEqEvln,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-12T07:03:14.038+0000) > > Why? It’s literally true. There are easier matchups and harder ones, but picking one champ into another won’t automatically win you game, not even lane in many cases. Dota is the game where these things matter. You’re not wrong, but you’re ignoring his league match-ups across the map are more one-sided than they’ve ever been. Riot has maintained that they are against the idea of hardcounters, though in some cases it is inevitable. However, it is way too commonplace now.
: It's literally two pages long. You might wanna check the definition of "concise".
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurst,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9jWZMgm6,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-08-09T23:59:48.706+0000) > > It's literally two pages long. You might wanna check the definition of "concise". It’s not a simplistic subject. I could’ve definitely made it much longer. You don’t like it, don’t read it. This isn’t a writing assignment, nor am I ready to argue about it because it’s really not that important to me. Have a good day.
: First off, if you want people to engage (especially Rioters) be more concise. Second, "hyper counterpick meta top" when most Youtubers and Streamers top are OTP, I'm not convinced.
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurst,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9jWZMgm6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-09T15:56:24.734+0000) > > First off, if you want people to engage (especially Rioters) be more concise. > > Second, "hyper counterpick meta top" when most Youtubers and Streamers top are OTP, I'm not convinced. It’s plenty concise, it’s not my fault you have a short attention span Secondly many youtubers and streamers are not OTPs, so you’re wrong about that too.
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MrHaZeYo (NA)
: For as long as I remember, Top and really mid too have always been highly counter pick oriented.
> [{quoted}](name=MrHaZeYo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EmiFBA5Z,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-08T07:09:09.177+0000) > > For as long as I remember, Top and really mid too have always been highly counter pick oriented. Yes but not to this extreme
Rioter Comments
: These Jax buff are contradictory to his hyper scaling identity.
Maybe they’re removing or seriously nerfing SOS as a Jax player, I think he’s totally balanced right now and definitely on the strong side. Really doesn’t need any help at all.
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jT98IOKo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-05T22:33:03.459+0000) > > Not why I made the post Your match history says otherwise.
> [{quoted}](name=Miles The Man,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jT98IOKo,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-05T22:35:46.021+0000) > > Your match history says otherwise. I lose to lots of things, that isn’t evidence for anything. Furthermore I played almost 24 hours ago, so I’m not making this as a response to anything that happened. More importantly, that is not an argument. If you can’t argue my actual points, then you probably shouldn’t reply.
: Just because you lost to a fed Pyke doesn't mean you should make a rant post about him.
> [{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jT98IOKo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-05T22:24:46.840+0000) > > Just because you lost to a fed Pyke doesn't mean you should make a rant post about him. Not why I made the post
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: Riot stated somewhere (cant remember where rn) that u.gg has the stats that are the closest match to their own
> [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Airlines,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mlpAifvz,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-04T09:26:19.617+0000) > > Riot stated somewhere (cant remember where rn) that u.gg has the stats that are the closest match to their own Literally everyone says this about the sites they reference. It’s not that I don’t trust you, but I hear this all the time. I’d like to see some proof of this.
: i guess thats true. for the most part its just best to use your better judgement by using more then one site. ex if vayne has a 50% winrate in one site, but 52%, 53%, and 56% in others you can probably guess shes actually around a 54%
> [{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mlpAifvz,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-04T01:29:31.951+0000) > > i guess thats true. for the most part its just best to use your better judgement by using more then one site. > > ex if vayne has a 50% winrate in one site, but 52%, 53%, and 56% in others you can probably guess shes actually around a 54% Sure, but even then that’s a crapshoot. It would be better just to have one standardized site (even if it wasn’t riots necessarily). Stats dumping is a pain, I get it. But so is trying to browse 3-4 different sites and listen to everyone tell you their site is right when there’s little evidence to actually support it.
: in a perfect world they would of course all be the same but they physically cant actually. sites are only allowed a specific ratelimit for requests, so it most probably ends up extraneous some times because of this. this is done to stop the api from being overloaded by a bunch of requests at once.
Well even then, that seems to suggest to me that the ideal course of action is to severely limit the amount of sites access or do their own stats. What we end up having are sites displaying some pretty significantly different results.
: those sites are already drawing information riot is providing though. all of it is drawn from Riots API, which even you yourself if you felt so inclined could also view, provided you have the technical know how. what makes them display "different" data is that they update their info at different times. some do it every 12 hours, others 24 hours, etc. but even then the data is drawn from the same source, so its never actually "wrong", just outdated by a few hours. thus they are in fact, perfectly accurate, because riot themselves are the one providing access.
> [{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mlpAifvz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-04T00:42:31.098+0000) > > those sites are already drawing information riot is providing though. > all of it is drawn from Riots API, which even you yourself if you felt so inclined could also view, provided you have the technical know how. > > what makes them display "different" data is that they update their info at different times. some do it every 12 hours, others 24 hours, etc. Right but I’ve seen some pretty major differences well into a patch cycle, which shouldn’t be happening since by the end of a patch there’s not going to be much data that comes in that’ll change a champions stats that significantly between the span of a few hours. So this comes down to how sites present stats, which tells you all you need to know there since you shouldn’t be seeing significant deviation (keep in mind, I’m also referring to looking at stats comparing same demographics).
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: If Riot said outright they were only thinking about profits, I don't even want to imagine the shitstorm that that would set off.
> [{quoted}](name=Reaversal,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VRzBR79o,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-02T23:19:54.816+0000) > > If Riot said outright they were only thinking about profits, I don't even want to imagine the shitstorm that that would set off. Really wouldn’t be any worse than what you’ve seen now.
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: Core issues within the current game that need to be addressed.
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: last incarnation of this post i did the math and i have about 80 euro's worth of free skins alone this season. You're getting plenty shit for free. it ain't hard to fix at a technical level, but it is at a financial level.
> [{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oFRmmA3n,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-07-31T13:41:40.394+0000) > > last incarnation of this post i did the math and i have about 80 euro's worth of free skins alone this season. You're getting plenty shit for free. > > it ain't hard to fix at a technical level, but it is at a financial level. You’re making the assumption people trade OE for every skin that comes available. Also, I am not asking for more free stuff - I’m saying please change this feature so the chest doesn’t give me something I already have.
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: Let's make bets on what will be broken this patch.
The client will probably spontaneously combust, resulting in house fires. Don’t worry, riot will provide those poor folks with free wannabe anime summoner icons and autographed memorabilia for their failed attempted Chinese cartoons.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oFRmmA3n,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-30T18:44:24.819+0000) > > people will tell you, you shouldn't complain about free shit but if you put into perceptive, that's free shit **YOU EARNED** riot didn't make it a giveaway you worked hard to get an S and keep your honor unlocked and positive but let's get slapped with an other useless ward skin when you finally open a chest.. This is just my opinion, but I don’t think people deserve anything special for doing well in a video game or being a decent human. When I started in S2 I got only one thing for free (an icon) in about the next two years, and yet I was just happy I got to play the game for free with no pay-to-win mechanics whatsoever (except maybe the ip cost of the old runes). Riot doesn’t benefit at all when you “earn” your rewards so why would the expectation be that they give to great rewards (or anything at all)?
> [{quoted}](name=Raven Redeemed,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oFRmmA3n,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-30T20:35:54.805+0000) > > This is just my opinion, but I don’t think people deserve anything special for doing well in a video game or being a decent human. When I started in S2 I got only one thing for free (an icon) in about the next two years, and yet I was just happy I got to play the game for free with no pay-to-win mechanics whatsoever (except maybe the ip cost of the old runes). > > Riot doesn’t benefit at all when you “earn” your rewards so why would the expectation be that they give to great rewards (or anything at all)? I don’t disagree with your sentiment, and certainly I do not play for such rewards. However, Riot promises these things to their playerbase so they build these expectations in their playerbase regardless. So whether they should or shouldn’t, whether people should be grateful or not, the fact is riot sets these expectations and as such people are allowed to criticize it. I also totally disagree that riot doesn’t benefit from this. On the surface, it’s an incredibly customer-service friendly system. It’s also a form of positively reinforcing good behavior through reward, which has empirical support in changing behavior across tons of different areas in society. And considering you want player experience to be positive in order to keep customers, then riot absolutely benefits from it. Of course they don’t directly financially benefit from it, but it’s something that likely gives them business they may not otherwise have. Also, leagues community is known for being incredibly toxic so that’s not a good reputation to have. I was fairly active in my universities esports club a few years ago and many of them didn’t play league because they either heard about the community and it’s toxicity and had no interest or played a few times and quit because they hated the new player experience, which had a huge dose of player toxicity. So I’m not with you here: riot absolutely benefits from this.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=001c000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-30T22:47:26.441+0000) > > I'm not so sure man. I literally referenced some LW stats about a year ago, only to find out that the percentage pen had changed on one of the items and the wiki wasn't up to date. what part of 99.9% did you not understand
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=001c0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-30T23:23:02.839+0000) > > what part of 99.9% did you not understand I’ve also just remembered that for whatever reason, when you use mobile safari via iPhone on lolwiki to observe champion abilities, it doesn’t list any champion’s Q spells. I mostly browse via mobile, so that’s another turn off for me. I dunno if it’s like this on other browsers. I’m assuming not, otherwise people wouldn’t advocate using it.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=001c0000,timestamp=2019-07-30T18:36:04.374+0000) > > For the record, I've avoided using the wiki because it, too, has issues with being updated. Obviously it is not nearly as bad as League's own site, but all I want is some accurate information. It should be from their own site, or as others have suggested they should delete it if they won't update it. At least then we can all be wrong together. the wiki is updated by the league API automatically what is in the wiki is 99.9% accurate to the game
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=001c00000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T18:44:39.005+0000) > > the wiki is updated by the league API automatically > what is in the wiki is 99.9% accurate to the game I'm not so sure man. I literally referenced some LW stats about a year ago, only to find out that the percentage pen had changed on one of the items and the wiki wasn't up to date.
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Pxerkza (EUNE)
: you could have easily typed aatrox wiki and the 1st link is what you need
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2019-07-30T17:54:13.259+0000) > > you could have easily typed aatrox wiki and the 1st link is what you need For the record, I've avoided using the wiki because it, too, has issues with being updated. Obviously it is not nearly as bad as League's own site, but all I want is some accurate information. It should be from their own site, or as others have suggested they should delete it if they won't update it. At least then we can all be wrong together.
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-29T17:00:08.133+0000) > > The thought is indeed hilarious. Being serious though, it is actually really annoying. I don't really know how to deal with this champion, and instead of whining about I'd rather be proactive and learn more about him. Since I have limited time, I don't really have the ability to play him and get a feel for him. So I'd love to find a site that has information about his cooldowns, scaling, in depth information and even some tips on how to fight him that aren't riot endorsed. The thing is, I shouldn't have to search high and low: this should be available on their site, perhaps minus the tips. its called practice tool. its in the client.
> [{quoted}](name=ToxicCoffee2k,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T00:07:58.446+0000) > > its called practice tool. its in the client. Or the website could actually be updated manually. Literally one employee could do it.
Zardo (NA)
: Asking for someone to be fired over a pretty minor mistake isn't really the best way to go about starting a conversation.
> [{quoted}](name=Zardo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-29T17:15:13.801+0000) > > Asking for someone to be fired over a pretty minor mistake isn't really the best way to go about starting a conversation. It’s not just Aatrox. Several champion bios have this problem. It is not nearly up to date as it should be. I’m also not requesting someone be terminated, I’m merely pointing out that I’ve seen people be fired for less. There’s nothing wrong with telling someone the service they provide isn’t good, and that it is reflective of a companies values and perceptions of its consumers.
: Well this is the company that relies on a third party website to do PBE patch notes and show off skins for them, despite having more resources available to them than most game publishers.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-29T16:44:27.017+0000) > > Well this is the company that relies on a third party website to do PBE patch notes and show off skins for them, despite having more resources available to them than most game publishers. honestly, I don't mind some outsourcing: that is good for any video game. That means that other people are allowed to produce content related to that game, which just spreads the wealth and is good for the game in general (I am not naive by the way, I am aware of how Riot cracks down on IP for it's pro players so take this comment with a grain of salt). That said, basic information related to your champions is something that should be available on your own site, and not in the 2006 Myspace edition. It is laughable.
Rockman (NA)
: imagine umbral dash had 25000 range
> [{quoted}](name=Rockman,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fh1RlJWo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-29T16:45:11.619+0000) > > imagine umbral dash had 25000 range The thought is indeed hilarious. Being serious though, it is actually really annoying. I don't really know how to deal with this champion, and instead of whining about I'd rather be proactive and learn more about him. Since I have limited time, I don't really have the ability to play him and get a feel for him. So I'd love to find a site that has information about his cooldowns, scaling, in depth information and even some tips on how to fight him that aren't riot endorsed. The thing is, I shouldn't have to search high and low: this should be available on their site, perhaps minus the tips.
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