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: Come Watch some DooM2 duels live on stream for my tournament!
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: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:12:49.908+0000) > > I quit playing League, it sucks now. I'm just busy with school/work and running some doom 2 community events Ah damn, yeah I remember that thread of yours You gonna give league another chance when season 8 hits or naw?
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:14:57.605+0000) > > Ah damn, yeah I remember that thread of yours > > You gonna give league another chance when season 8 hits or naw? probably not
: Where the heck yah been bud?
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:08:46.488+0000) > > Where the heck yah been bud? I quit playing League, it sucks now. I'm just busy with school/work and running some doom 2 community events
: What if I have diamond level mechanics but bronze game level knowledge?
> [{quoted}](name=Fate Fire,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:10:48.024+0000) > > What if I have diamond level mechanics but bronze game level knowledge? not possible
: main i wish my mechanics were bronze and my understanding of the game was on wood but yet here i am {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
> [{quoted}](name=jwebb0113,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:06:55.105+0000) > > main i wish my mechanics were bronze and my understanding of the game was on wood but yet here i am > > {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} I had an account in bronze and I used it just have fun with and it was seriously so hard to not win games with it lol. Like, the even slightly correct play is such an overwhelmingly impactful decision that rarely happens down there that the first correct decision usually wins games. It's so hard to turn that off too. It really is harder to lose in bronze than it is to win.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:26:33.814+0000) > > Dude I hate biology so much, I can't wait to be done with this crap. maybe you should just get good and stop being bad at biology
> [{quoted}](name=Latitoast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:28:55.607+0000) > > maybe you should just get good and stop being bad at biology That would require me to like it, gross
: Why is someone who is quitting the game in 2 months even bothering to get worked up over this? Also, boobs aside it is one of Ashe's better skins IMO.
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:28:12.383+0000) > > Why is someone who is quitting the game in 2 months even bothering to get worked up over this? > > Also, boobs aside it is one of Ashe's better skins IMO. I'm not worked up at all, I'm shit posting I just happened to provide a few serious replies largely because the replies were made to people I like and respect
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:22:33.493+0000) > > no just shit posting until my system comes back up > > That, and I'm tired of biology. I don't think I can read another sentence tonight. oh yeah, i bet you're gonna read this sentence you fucking greedy liar
> [{quoted}](name=Latitoast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:25:24.864+0000) > > oh yeah, i bet you're gonna read this sentence you fucking greedy liar Dude I hate biology so much, I can't wait to be done with this crap.
: > [{quoted}](name=Worst Brad Japan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:16:57.161+0000) > > How is that a bad thing? > > I actually want riot to make more boobs champion, SJW have ruined this game long enough > > {{champion:432}} Lesseee here...... {{champion:103}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:67}} If we're just counting the sexy femme fatales ........we gotta fair amount of them. What exactly did SJWs do to the game? Oh yeah and the Eve VGU is gonna be naked except for mist/shadow stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=Dreamspitter,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:23:27.202+0000) > > Lesseee here...... > > {{champion:103}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:67}} > > If we're just counting the sexy femme fatales ........we gotta fair amount of them. > > What exactly did SJWs do to the game? He's just a desperate nerd who clings to counterculture because it's the only thing that makes sense to him since he can't participate in regular society because of his social awkwardness, including touching another female.
: ITT: Hatedaddy has to remind us that he gets laid.
> [{quoted}](name=IAintDarius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:20:01.386+0000) > > ITT: Hatedaddy has to remind us that he gets laid. If I don't, who will?
: hatedaddy have you returned to us
> [{quoted}](name=Latitoast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:01:44.714+0000) > > hatedaddy have you returned to us no just shit posting until my system comes back up That, and I'm tired of biology. I don't think I can read another sentence tonight.
Vacus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:54:14.686+0000) > > Dude a stork dropped me off on my moms porch and she said "hi I will name you HateDaddy and you will be legendary" > > (How are you?) I climbed up out of a chimney, personally. Uphill both ways, in the snow. (I'm alright! Not playing much League these days, I'm pretty much with you on the state of the game. I'm not sure playing WoW is any better but eh, it's like binge drinking, I only do it socially >.>)
> [{quoted}](name=Vacus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:59:06.489+0000) > > I climbed up out of a chimney, personally. > > Uphill both ways, in the snow. > > (I'm alright! Not playing much League these days, I'm pretty much with you on the state of the game. I'm not sure playing WoW is any better but eh, it's like binge drinking, I only do it socially >.>) (I am making doom maps at the moment and playing games when I get the chance. I can map whenever I have time, but playing with other people is challenging with my schedule currently.)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:51:49.518+0000) > > It's armor that exposes her heart and lungs? Lol I mean if you want people to have realistic armor you'd have to stick a helmet on every single character in the game so I still don't understand your fixation on this skin. Are you saying the skin is bad so there's no reason to get it other than boobs? Or are you saying the boobs are ruining the skin?
> [{quoted}](name=vfactor95,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T03:01:47.616+0000) > > I mean if you want people to have realistic armor you'd have to stick a helmet on every single character in the game so I still don't understand your fixation on this skin. As I stated, there's a certain point I'm willing to suspend my disbelief to. I realize most of this stuff isn't realistic but in this case, it legitimately feels like someone said "hey carve a hole out in the cleavage area to show titties so the skin sells." If you're going to sell me them tatas, don't be so obvious about it, I dunno. > Are you saying the skin is bad so there's no reason to get it other than boobs? Or are you saying the boobs are ruining the skin? Nah the skin is probably fine, it's just a bow and arrow on tits
Vacus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:28:12.662+0000) > > i wouldn't know, i don't look into the background of people making any sexual braggings just to disprove/prove it. i'm not big on privacy invasion. Perhaps if you weren't an EUW random you would actually know famous GDers. > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:32:03.120+0000) > > They come from the stork, duh? > > (Hi vacus) Now I finally know and can understand the context myself! (hi)
> [{quoted}](name=Vacus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:51:10.032+0000) > > Perhaps if you weren't an EUW random you would actually know famous GDers. > > Now I finally know and can understand the context myself! > > (hi) Dude a stork dropped me off on my moms porch and she said "hi I will name you HateDaddy and you will be legendary" (How are you?)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:16:19.472+0000) > > Of the two of us, I'm the only one here that can prove I have been intimate with a female. :p > > Also, I find it sleezy to slip in sexual advertising anyway you can. Like honestly, why exactly would you have armor that exposes the most vital area in your body aside from your brain? Shoot me in my lungs and heart why don't you? Do you even know what advertising is like? Do you even realize Denmark has mid afternoon commercials in which women dive out of airplanes and strip off ALL of their clothes to sell shampoo?
> [{quoted}](name=Dreamspitter,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:51:37.399+0000) > > Do you even know what advertising is like? > > Do you even realize Denmark has mid afternoon commercials in which women dive out of airplanes and strip off ALL of their clothes to sell shampoo? Where am I saying this is bad advertising? Just because it sells doesn't mean it's not dumb as fuck.
: uhhh I'm pretty sure all (or at least most )of ashe's splash arts have cleavage showing, is there something specifically wrong with this instance of it?
> [{quoted}](name=vfactor95,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:47:01.621+0000) > > uhhh I'm pretty sure all (or at least most )of ashe's splash arts have cleavage showing, is there something specifically wrong with this instance of it? It's armor that exposes her heart and lungs? Lol
: i touched a girl once but she left me bc my fingers are perpetually covered in cheeto dust and my breath smells like baja blast
> [{quoted}](name=roflcoptars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:44:07.558+0000) > > i touched a girl once but she left me bc my fingers are perpetually covered in cheeto dust and my breath smells like baja blast LOL
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:38:31.326+0000) > > I don't dispute this at all but that doesn't mean I have to like it :/ Don't hate on the fun of the people who do enjoy it.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:42:33.919+0000) > > Don't hate on the fun of the people who do enjoy it. hating is an important part of civilized society. Without haters, where would we be? I'm afraid to speculate.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:34:10.969+0000) > > It's al fine in moderation, but as I explained in a previous post, I can only suspend my disbelief for so long when almost every female character in most games is more of a sexual object image-wise. Sex sells mate. >I don't even want to get into that discussion really, but you asked so I figured I'd tell you. The truth is, I largely just intended on trolling here and I've already made far too many serious posts for my liking. Ahhh, want to shitpost, kk, carry on.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:37:06.248+0000) > > Sex sells mate. I don't dispute this at all but that doesn't mean I have to like it :/ > Ahhh, want to shitpost, kk, carry on. I think I would've been better off making fun of kids who wear skinny jeans in hindsight
: > [{quoted}](name=Vacus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:26:30.396+0000) > > He has kids buddy. > > I think anyone who knows where kids come from understands the concept here. i wouldn't know, i don't look into the background of people making any sexual braggings just to disprove/prove it. i'm not big on privacy invasion.
> [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:28:12.662+0000) > > i wouldn't know, i don't look into the background of people making any sexual braggings just to disprove/prove it. i'm not big on privacy invasion. then maybe you should just like, I don't know, refrain from saying anything about that because you look dumb.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:16:19.472+0000) > > Of the two of us, I'm the only one here that can prove I have been intimate with a female. :p Wait, what does that have to do with anything? > Also, I find it sleezy to slip in sexual advertising anyway you can. Like honestly, why exactly would you have armor that exposes the most vital area in your body aside from your brain? Shoot me in my lungs and heart why don't you? Why does Sejunai, Try, and Braum wear no clothing while living in what is basically the frozen tundra? Why is every character not decked out in full armor at all times for that matter, especially the bigger bulkier ones that can actually afford to, why are you complaining about any of the open chested male characters? All in all, who cares?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:32:01.021+0000) > > Wait, what does that have to do with anything? > > Why does Sejunai, Try, and Braum wear no clothing while living in what is basically the frozen tundra? Why is every character not decked out in full armor at all times for that matter, especially the bigger bulkier ones that can actually afford to, why are you complaining about any of the open chested male characters? > > All in all, who cares? It's al fine in moderation, but as I explained in a previous post, I can only suspend my disbelief for so long when almost every female character in most games is more of a sexual object image-wise. I don't even want to get into that discussion really, but you asked so I figured I'd tell you. The truth is, I largely just intended on trolling here and I've already made far too many serious posts for my liking.
Vacus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:23:21.254+0000) > > First of all. Ew, Bragging about nonexistent past sexual Encounters. He has kids buddy. I think anyone who knows where kids come from understands the concept here.
> [{quoted}](name=Vacus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:26:30.396+0000) > > He has kids buddy. > > I think anyone who knows where kids come from understands the concept here. They come from the stork, duh? (Hi vacus)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:16:19.472+0000) > > Of the two of us, I'm the only one here that can prove I have been intimate with a female. :p > > Also, I find it sleezy to slip in sexual advertising anyway you can. Like honestly, why exactly would you have armor that exposes the most vital area in your body aside from your brain? Shoot me in my lungs and heart why don't you? First of all. Ew, Bragging about nonexistent past sexual Encounters. Second of all. There is nothing wrong with showing some cleavage. The Skin isn't called "realistic battle armor for archers" Ashe but "Championship" Ashe, it is meant to represent some style along with decently good defensive clothings. Plus, Ashe is canon a tease, having something revealing only suits her character. If you got any further complains, i Redirect you to the void of apathy, because noone really cares that you don't like it. it's your own opinion, and we can respect that. doesn't mean we should let you attempt to make your opinion a fact.
> [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:23:21.254+0000) > > First of all. Ew, Bragging about nonexistent past sexual Encounters. > > Second of all. There is nothing wrong with showing some cleavage. The Skin isn't called "realistic battle armor for archers" Ashe but "Championship" Ashe, it is meant to represent some style along with decently good defensive clothings. > Plus, Ashe is canon a tease, having something revealing only suits her character. > > If you got any further complains, i Redirect you to the void of apathy, because noone really cares that you don't like it. it's your own opinion, and we can respect that. doesn't mean we should let you attempt to make your opinion a fact. me voicing my opinion doesn't equate the statements I've made to proving them as fact. Jamaree made a statement, I replied. You're more bothered by the fact that I think sexual art in video games is typically stupid because it's only designed to appeal to raging virgin gaming nerds who will never touch a woman and thirst through video games instead. I can suspend my disbelief on quite a few things, but let's be real, most video games design their female characters with their boobs practically bursting out of their shirts and this sexual exploitation is on an overwhelming amount of most female characters. It gets to a certaint point where it feels forced because they know thirsty virgins will throw their money at it. It's pitiful really. But let me say this in closing out because you can't seem to handle differing opinions, *this is just my opinion man.*
: I like boobs :)
> [{quoted}](name=Summoners Drift,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:15:57.699+0000) > > I like boobs :) So let's cut out the middle man and just put a bow and arrow on a pair of tits. Easy art at least.
Jamaree (NA)
: What is the problem, do you not like tits, what are you gay?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bEegp1bR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-19T02:13:43.164+0000) > > What is the problem, do you not like tits, what are you gay? Of the two of us, I'm the only one here that can prove I have been intimate with a female. :p Also, I find it sleezy to slip in sexual advertising anyway you can. Like honestly, why exactly would you have armor that exposes the most vital area in your body aside from your brain? Shoot me in my lungs and heart why don't you?
Rioter Comments
: That's not enough to claim competence in psychology. Let alone a PhD. You *are* probably over-qualified to be a psychologist at this point though. XD
> [{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4t5tKxfE,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-09-03T19:51:01.970+0000) > > That's not enough to claim competence in psychology. Let alone a PhD. > > You *are* probably over-qualified to be a psychologist at this point though. XD HEY
Rioter Comments
: Caring about what a non-league player thinks S P I C Y M E M E (Glad you're still here tho f'real)
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4t5tKxfE,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-09-03T15:44:06.118+0000) > > Caring about what a non-league player thinks > > S P I C Y M E M E > > (Glad you're still here tho f'real) I said I was quitting playing, I never said I was gonna quit shitposting
: psychology major is basically training for food services
> [{quoted}](name=King of Mongoose,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4t5tKxfE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-09-03T07:16:06.646+0000) > > psychology major is basically training for food services Not for clinical psychology. Granted, i seriously AM getting my phd.
: So are you going to stay on the boards even after you quit League?
> [{quoted}](name=PPPPPPPPPPPP270,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4t5tKxfE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-03T03:59:06.012+0000) > > So are you going to stay on the boards even after you quit League? I still plan on posting on GD. I just don't like where the game is right now and I'm not gonna to play something I don't enjoy. Besides, I've gotten back into doom recently and in particular, doom mapping.
Rioter Comments
: Hey HateDaddy, To start off, I just wanted to say that we, Riot, do care when people choose to stop playing League. We might not be able to address everyone individually, but as gamers ourselves and players who love to play League, whenever someone, let alone a super engaged player chooses to leave, it gives us reason to take a step back and think about what we're doing, or not doing, that made you want to make that choice. I can empathize with a lot of what you wrote here, as I've been playing League since 2009, and joined Riot back in 2014 (god that seems like forever ago), and want to try to touch on at least some of what you've said. I want to make it clear the statement that you're replaceable and irrelevant isn't true. Full stop. We can't simply "replace" a player who has been a long time supporter of League, we can't replace those experiences, the highs, the lows, and everything in between that you experienced. To me that's one of the reasons I love League, because when I think back on the 8 1/2 years of playing, my own experience is my own personal story where I can remember times in the past before a meta, when Ashe mid tping to a ward after ulting from fountain was a thing. I can remember when Rock Solid made GP support a thing in the pro scene and it worked. I remember when Veigar evaporated people with DFG and when Yi could EASILY 1v5. I remember when TF had his destiny on his E, and would tp to a side lane bush and have his team follow him for a cheesy early game kill. Those are the memories and experiences that if I left couldn't be replaced. It's all a part of the journey, and the never ending path to mastery that keeps me coming back to League year after year. Have there been times I've wanted to quit? God damn right there has been. Hell, I have a baby now, and another on the way in February, and with my free time quickly fleeting, the first thing I still want to do when I get an hour to myself is load up a game of League and get my ass handed to me on the Rift (that or play a quick game of pubg if I don't have enough time). But enough about me, let's talk about what you wrote here, again I won't be able to touch on everything, but I'll try my best with the time I have. The feeling that this season has been one of the least fun seasons for you is a very interesting thing to callout, as despite what I've said about, it's something that I've felt **at times** but not the entire season as a whole. Usually when I feel like the game has lost all appeal, is after I've had a run of games where someone went full potato on me team, or raged out at us for several games in a row. Those are the times that I stop and ask if it's really worth it, but then when I find an hour of freetime...I still keep coming back. So there seems to be difference with what we classify as what makes League fun. For me, if my teammates are level headed rational people, League is still the best game ever, but for you it seems like it's more about the state of the game which takes the fun away, so let's dive into that a bit. Snowballing and game length are some very interesting things to point out as reasons for feeling the game isn't fun. Anecdotally, I feel like my games have had more variance in terms of quality of game play for the past year, and to me personally, it's led to a feeling of games feeling more snowbally at times. On the other hand though, I also feel like I've been in games with more epic "come from behind" victories due to good teamplay, catchup xp/gold which helps cushion snowballing, and over confident opponents. League was designed as a team game, and when people snowball the hell out of their lanes winning 1v1, 2v2, or with some help from the jungler, the game also gets determined by which team has the better comp. The infamous "don't worry we'll scale", is actually a thing that matters, and has led me to experience more games that maybe felt like they were decided at 10 minutes, but actually swung in my favor as we scaled. In regards to playing fighters specifically, we have a task on our plate to figure out how to best support melee champs in League holistically that we're aiming to get to early next year. Right now being relegated to split pushing, and buying the same items that your fellow marksman are purchasing usually makes one of the most valuable stats in the game (range) make you come second to anyone else that can build the same items. This often forces melee fighters to rely on splitpushing, which is a pretty shitty solution to a problem when you want to be in the middle of a team wrecking havoc whether it be with your blade or your fishing rod. Sorry that was a bit tangential, but you called out fighters and I wanted to touch on it a bit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a lot of what's leading you to feel fed up with League is how heavily you need to rely on teammates to do the right thing? If that's the case, it's going to be a bit trickier to solve the problem for you explicitly, as the design of LoL is based so heavily on coordination with teammates, whereas a game like DOTA is designed around each champion being capable of carrying their team more easily. I won't go super heavy into this discussion, since I'm not a designer and didn't create the original dota, dota 2, or League (I just work on the balance team), but we have intentionally gone the direction of having all the micro decisions you make in champ select, runes/masteries, in itemization, in lane phase, and macro level calls all feed into increasing your chance to win. I definitely don't think we've perfected it, and we have a long way to go until we can say that's 100% the case, but I'd be curious what sort of solutions you'd like to see to make League the game that you want to keep playing? Is it the ability to better coordinate with teammates? Is it the ability to more consistently carry a game when you rock the lane phase and go 6/0? Is it giving a different distribution of damage and durability to champs? Or retuning jungle mobs and epic encounters? I'm asking this to be pedantic, I'm genuinely curious in your thoughts as a diamond player and person who's played League for as long as you have. I never played Doom, so unfortunately I can't touch on your references, what I can say however is we've been talking internally about how we can make epic monsters (Rift Herald, Baron, Dragons), actually feel...epic. There won't be anything in for this pre-season as we're trying to keep the runeway (hue) for runes reforged as clean as possible for as stable a launch as we can get, but we're talking about them for next year. No concrete plans as of yet, but it's one thing I wanted to call out since you pointed out how they currently feel. In regards to teamfights I think this one becomes a bit more nuanced and subjective, as my perception of the live state currently is that coming back is arguably more possible now, that teamfights are actually longer, but I think I can concede the point about CC being higher especially in a time like right now when tanks are strong and viable. Creep block is another thing we've been talking about, not removing it, but making some adjustments so we can avoid as many of the "I was literally stuck in my creeps" situations as possible. I would go into the runes reforged stuff, but I'd prefer to leave that to the team (who's been pumping out a ton of content/articles on their progress), and I have to say that while I was personally skeptical of the system at first (like waaaay back), more and more recently I've been getting excited theory crafting how a particular keystone would synergize with a champion or playstyle I enjoy. When I'm testing internally it _feels_ more like early seasons, when theory crafting was another key way you could find your way to victory, and I'm super excited for the new system to go live, and see what problems it solves, and what we need to continue to work on (like some of the ones I touched on above). In regards to the rank system, this is one which I may actually be the most aligned with you, and it's been the topic of some hot debate last Friday in the office in one of our slack channels. There are some major pros to the way it works now, in regards to things like how you can feel a sense of progression as you play, but there's definitely some pitfalls when you run into people who seemingly just grinded their way to their mmr and don't actually have the skill to hold their own. I do honestly believe that we have one of the best matchmakers and ranked systems around, but definitely don't think it's perfect either, though sadly I don't have much context into that space I could give you. Just know that it's a thing we talk about a lot ourselves. To close this off. I want to first say that if you do choose to truly leave League, I hope you find another avenue that brings you the same highs that I've experienced in the past 8 1/2 years, whether that be in games, or in the real world (fuck it's scary out there). You're not just a spoke in a wheel, as for every person like you that writes a clearly passionate and informed post that you did, there's 10 others who leave silently. Yes, we can replace you with another player if we looked at our players as just 1s and 0s, but that's not how we look at you. You've been a part of this journey and have supported us, and it's on us to prove that League is a game you should feel confident in spending your time and getting rewarded for doing so. Whether that's ranked dominance, super fucking high moments, or riveting gameplay. I appreciate the time you took to write this, and I'm sorry if it felt like I was glossing over any of your statements. I'm not the best equipped to answer all of them. If you do have followup though please reply to this and I'll try to get back to you at some point over the next few days. I'm really sorry that this is likely riddled with typos and shitty grammar, it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet :P, also note that a lot of this is just my opinion, and not an official stance from Riot, but I wanted to reach out to you regardless. Thanks again man, and good luck over the rest of the season! Asyrite
Hey asyrite... Thanks a lot for your response as well as the time and effort you put into it. I'm not bothered by grammatical flaws, I'm a psychology major, not a literature major :p. I typically don't have the time to respond as quickly as I'd like so I do apologize that it took me so long to clarify a few things. Honestly, my frustrations aren't really tied to being unable to "carry games solo." This element has always been present in league, though admittedly in previous seasons it certainly felt the potential to solo carry games was much higher. That's neither here nor there as that's a rather amibiuous element of game play to accurately measure. It does feel like that's true to an extent but no, I wouldn't say it's a "gripe." It's simply part of the game. I imagine much of my frustration comes from fighters and top lane in general. This isn't the first time bot lane decides the game, in reality that's been true for 80% of leagues existence. But it's the manor in which it happens - between ganks, dives and a plethora of tools available in this game to secure kills with relative ease, it feels like bot - and in many cases mid - become such disatoruous or advantageous stomps that I likely have very little to contribute to the game except split push. That's frustrating as hell. I also can't interact with my lane opponent because any sign of aggression is likely the result of an incoming gank so top lane becomes this remote island where interaction is scarce because junglers have way too much control over the lane (and the game quite frankly but that's another toooc entirely). I'm fed up, im tired and I'm burnt out. I've always sworn to myself if I'm not having fun anymore, im not going to stick around for long. I will finish the season because it would bother me on a personal level of it didn't - I don't care if anyone thinks that's lame honestly. And the things that make this so unfun with melees sucking, creep block, game pace, glass objectives and general snowballing, they are things that have been true really all season and even parts of last season. I've lost faith that Riot wants to fix this because in my estimation, given Riots obsession with competitive play, im not sure that the top brass even see it as an issue because their pockets are getting lined regardless. And let's not pretend money isn't a big deal here, I don't even blame them. I used to deny that Riot lost its "ties" the community but in reality, it has and it has for a long time. With all of this things culminating, I've reached the conclusion that this game is no longer worth my time. Anr I don't see anything changing my mind on that.
: No, but it looks like OP did. That said, why did you ask?
> [{quoted}](name=Naked Villager,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-29T03:44:37.394+0000) > > No, but it looks like OP did. That said, why did you ask? The better question is why are you here?
: daddy no :( we can make it through this dark ages, us fighter ubermensch
> [{quoted}](name=Mens Hair Club,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-08-29T01:55:33.012+0000) > > daddy no :( we can make it through this dark ages, us fighter ubermensch It's not even about fighters and their state of balance. I don't mind split pushing, but my split push never becomes relevant because the game is typically won or loss independent of my split push. Like man, am I even playing the game anymore?
: Now you and chogathsson can spend some more quality time together. Going to miss 65% of your shitposts.
> [{quoted}](name=DariusDemiurge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-08-29T01:43:42.619+0000) > > Now you and chogathsson can spend some more quality time together. Going to miss 65% of your shitposts. That's a strange but seemingly precise number to arrive at. ChoGathsSon is crying in corner.
: Bye mom I'll miss u
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-29T01:35:44.599+0000) > > Bye mom I'll miss u love u U can catch me in the doom community mapping and rocking kids at www.zdaemon.org and/or www.zandronum.org. I'm supposed to tell you to buy the doom2.wad but honestly, it's the internet - you know what to do.
: I agree with just about everything in here. If I were playing for anything other than a hobby, I'd be quitting by now too. I can tell you if my primary game did some of the balance-related things League has been doing, I'd be finding a new profession. It used to be really fun, and it still has the potential to be fun again. But it's lost a lot of its shimmer with the most recent host of changes, and it seems like their trend is down instead of up.
> [{quoted}](name=musounotakamaru,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-29T01:19:59.133+0000) > > I agree with just about everything in here. If I were playing for anything other than a hobby, I'd be quitting by now too. I can tell you if my primary game did some of the balance-related things League has been doing, I'd be finding a new profession. It used to be really fun, and it still has the potential to be fun again. But it's lost a lot of its shimmer with the most recent host of changes, and it seems like their trend is down instead of up. It is a hobby, it's just not fun anymore.
: K bye
> [{quoted}](name=Naked Villager,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-08-29T01:18:48.371+0000) > > K bye -1
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: Lol. Saying that you have no bias is stupid and shows that don't know shit. Anyone's that's taken even basic psychology knows that EVERYONE has bias - significant amounts of it. It's important to understand your biases and account for them - not just say "I'm not biased/have little bias" because that makes you seem ignorant as shit.
> [{quoted}](name=skyskee008,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1jLBvgI3,comment-id=00020001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-26T00:57:07.610+0000) > > Lol. Saying that you have no bias is stupid and shows that don't know shit. > > Anyone's that's taken even basic psychology knows that EVERYONE has bias - significant amounts of it. It's important to understand your biases and account for them - not just say "I'm not biased/have little bias" because that makes you seem ignorant as shit. Apparently you can't read, said I had little bias. Not no bias. Little bias doesn't mean insignificant bias, it simply means I am aware of my biases and adjust my opinion accordingly. You need not look hard, you can see from my post history.
: Care to explain how, when you are suggesting a change that would benefit no class but your own? You said so yourself how lethality ADCs and crit ADCs do basically the same damage to squishies. The difference is in how effective they are against tanks. What other 'good' would come from a change like this? Structure damage remains largely the same, objective damage largely the same, squishy damage largely the same (if not more with lethality). Not every champion can make use of lethality, so you would be essentially removing more than half of the class pool (unless implemented with other large scale changes that would have no guarantee of making things any better or worse).
> [{quoted}](name=TouchFluffyTaiI,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1jLBvgI3,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2017-08-25T23:53:22.322+0000) > > Care to explain how, when you are suggesting a change that would benefit no class but your own? You said so yourself how lethality ADCs and crit ADCs do basically the same damage to squishies. The difference is in how effective they are against tanks. > > What other 'good' would come from a change like this? Structure damage remains largely the same, objective damage largely the same, squishy damage largely the same (if not more with lethality). Not every champion can make use of lethality, so you would be essentially removing more than half of the class pool (unless implemented with other large scale changes that would have no guarantee of making things any better or worse). Proving my bias is your burden, accuser. Ignoring that stupid claim, I already explained that I believe crit is too strong in general and blows every other single multiplicative scaling stat out of the water. It's simply too good and frankly, given its pseudo random nature, id argue it's least healthy as a result. Any change to lethality for ADCs would require a retuning of both ADCs and lethality but I figured that was understood without it not needing to be mentioned. That was my mistake.
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: Yes, the person who mains bruisers, tanks, and juggernauts is obviously going to give the best advice about how to balance ADCs. it's not like he has an inherent bias against the class that is designed to kill his class. I mean why else would he want ADCs to go back to a time where he admits they were much weaker against tanks?
> [{quoted}](name=TouchFluffyTaiI,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1jLBvgI3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-25T22:53:19.470+0000) > > Yes, the person who mains bruisers, tanks, and juggernauts is obviously going to give the best advice about how to balance ADCs. it's not like he has an inherent bias against the class that is designed to kill his class. I mean why else would he want ADCs to go back to a time where he admits they were much weaker against tanks? I have very little bias actually
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