Done25 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=zImaginaerum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6uf843dj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-09T20:22:38.750+0000) > > You know right that Stopwatch costs 600 gold and can be used just ONCE? > > So, it's 600 gold wasted for a one-time active and no stats, definitely a trade off. It's not wasted if it negates a lv 6 ult.
Yes it is. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. 600 gold used to POTENTIALLY stop a kill that would give 300 gold.
Rioter Comments
: Anyone miss the old days of TSM fans rabidly rooting for their team, then turning on each other arguing about who the weakest link was?
I'm not a TSM fam. I am a C9 fan but I would much prefer it if every NA team made it out of groups.
: his abilities are telegraphed and he is not just a ball of stats. its because everything he does is so telegraphed, why he is easier to deal with for people with faster reaction times and strategic foresight, than for people at lower ratings. meddler said theyre looking into updating him aswell, but another rioter who would be in charge of the update mentioned that they dont have a specific idea what to give him, and i think it would be a terrible idea to force an update without doing proper research. in my opinion they need to prioritize on the villain mechanic and refine the concept. other than that, there are ways to improve garen without changing his kit - **at all**. if they want to buff him for higher ratings and add skill ceiling, they should look into giving him animation cancel mechanics for his q. a full rotation on garen should look like: auto attack, q, auto attack, spin, auto attack, ult. usually the long animation time on his q is the weak link in that chain. it gives his opponent enough time to react with a defensive ability in the timeframe the animation plays. (yes, thats what a telegraphed ability is)
He's easy to deal with because he's a linear champion and a ball of stats.
: If season 8 doesn't make marksmen thoroughly weaker in practice than they are now
: {{champion:432}} Best escape in the game E into Q. And if you can play him well enough, then you can lead the enemy team on a wild goose chase for nearly ten minutes.
Rioter Comments
: This is why kids, you go to sleep past your bedtime, otherwise you get cranky.
arans (NA)
: Oh look it's TSM fans whining again! Also, you should probably quit calling for a player to be removed from a team because it kinda makes you look like a jerk.
typical salty kid responding.
: He has often been seen as the weakest link. It really shows when the rest of the team cant just hard carry him though.
Exactly. Every game they have played so far sven gets punished and has to blow flash over and over for positioning. He needs to be benched holy fuck
: I can bet on 1000$ that all people(including me) failed at one thing in pick ems.
Sven is fucking terrible, tsm has no chance of making it to finals because sven.
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Raoul (EUW)
: I said EU players, not EU Teams. The Top NA teams all bought the good EU players.
EU players are trash except for a few.
: C9 fan here. SKT would have to lose twice. AHQ and EDG wont do it, and even if Cloud 9 beats them once I doubt they would win the tiebreaker
Theres a very small chance. Huni is pretty bad compared to the rest of the players on SKT.
: It is considered the weakest group in all of worlds...BY a large margin The fact that the top team is NA team tells you the lack of competition in the group compared to the others. It will be a shame if TSM doesn't get out of group as #1 and an even bigger shame if they don't get out of groups at all. To say that TSM played clean is laughable though. They were behind both games so far and won because the teams they fought didnt know how to end the game with a lead
Ignorance at its finest. Even the analysts say WE is the best chinese team.
: That group is pretty trash. You and I could start a team with 3 bronzies and compete with any of the teams in that group. Don't get too excited.
WE is considered the best chinese team in worlds.
: > [{quoted}](name=Requiemsfire,realm=OCE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=d7xsWMx5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-06T10:48:15.181+0000) > > The god hauntzer himself blessed the game with another game changing 5 man gnar ultimate and doublelift punishes Betty hard for his mispositioning. Hardly game changing when you're already in the opponents base.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
Penns (EUW)
: 0 armor pen "late game" crit build > full armor tank pretty surprising {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
Yes. That is why it took 18 autos even with janna steroids. GJ you showed a clip proving tanks are tanky!
Shifune (NA)
: When you think of Season 7, you think of Graves? Come again. Graves doesn't even pop into my head when I think Season 7.
because you have a bad memory
Penns (EUW)
: https://youtu.be/AP8gdBBvL70?t=7m31s Sunfire + Thornmail + Ninja Tabi Maokai lel
2.5 > 2 how surprising {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: LOL congrats on proving yourself wrong. You say noc is an engage jungler then you say he divers. Even riot has said these are two very different things. Take this L for destroying your own argument.
sorry doesn't change the fact you obviously didn't watch the game. Don't talk about stuff when you don't know what you're talking about.
: LOL congrats on proving yourself wrong. You say noc is an engage jungler then you say he divers. Even riot has said these are two very different things. Take this L for destroying your own argument.
yeah. can't win an argument with an idiot who can't realize when he's wrong. He said that the GAM game vs fnatic was meta LMFAO.
: LOL congrats on proving yourself wrong. You say noc is an engage jungler then you say he divers. Even riot has said these are two very different things. Take this L for destroying your own argument.
Two people who don't know what they are talking about don't like me... Feelsbadman :(
: LOL congrats on proving yourself wrong. You say noc is an engage jungler then you say he divers. Even riot has said these are two very different things. Take this L for destroying your own argument.
Heres another dude who obviously didn't watch the game. L
: What if you were in your diamond promos?
Hell yeah bro ill take diamond for mangled and fucked up burnt skin for the rest of my life.
: Not sure why thread on fearing assassin meta over adc meta gets upvoted
: Thank you Gigabyte Marines
I think khan build the lethality items because he knew the game was over and an easy stomp. Don't get me wrong I was hoping GAM would win but they didn't really make Long Zhu think on their feet. They just did the same strat that used to be used against lane swapping a couple seasons ago.
: Volibear is suffering
Yeah volibear def needs a vgu or at least mini rework. He brings nothing to a team except being a meat shield.
Raoul (EUW)
: And while being against the most broken OP freeelo autowin world ending champion in the game {{champion:40}} But lets be real here, its SKT. The second they decided to go serious, it was over. They most likely played it easy at first, having a little fun. Then they said "ok, lets win?" "Yeah lets win..." and bam, game over
No EDG just played much better early.
: Just........wow.
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: ***
LOL congrats on proving yourself wrong. You say noc is an engage jungler then you say he divers. Even riot has said these are two very different things. Take this L for destroying your own argument.
: 1: noc itself is a diffrent pick but the job it does is still the same as reksai or jarvan picks and does the same tasks 2: Lane swaps dont happen for a reason they have proven to be ineffective in the current meta 3: They still had a heal/shield ardent cencer lane bot, lulu trist which is pick or ban in almost every worlds match so far, that or xayah/twitch Tl;DR their picks and start may have been diffrent but for the bigger picture that is irrelevant. The draft was built around doing the exact same thing that every other team is doing. Engage jungle= check. Ardent cencer bot lane with twitch/trist/xayah with a shield/utility support? Check. Top lane meat shield with peel and damage soaking ability? Check. They may have gone about it slightly diffrently but their comp did all the same things literally every other worlds draft has done so far. They diddnt go for protect the maw. They diddnt go for carry oriented top lane. They diddnt play to their mid laner. No. They played around their ardent bot lane just like every other game so far. Kindly do everyone a favor and gtfo
Noc is not an engage jungler like j4 or reksai. You have no clue what you are talking about. Just a sheep who thinks "wow they pick trist and lulu meta noobs". I'm not gonna reply anymore since you proved you don't know what you're talking about.
: Casters generally just react to bursts of damage and string together a bunch of words into a barely-coherent sentence afterwards. That said, they looked pretty dumb earlier into the day when Hauntzer got that big 5-man Gnar ult off and only one champ died from it. The engage is only good if the follow-up is good.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkSoul1994,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zHIzlXVb,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-10-06T15:27:28.816+0000) > > Casters generally just react to bursts of damage and string together a bunch of words into a barely-coherent sentence afterwards. > > That said, they looked pretty dumb earlier into the day when Hauntzer got that big 5-man Gnar ult off and only one champ died from it. The engage is only good if the follow-up is good. Just because the follow-up isn't good doesnt mean the engage isn't good. Also the engage STILL was good considering what they got from it.
: Anyone else a big fan of seeing Twitch R and melt entire teams in worlds
All these sheep complaining about twitch. Let me offer this as a rebuttal. There is a reason fnatic gave up 2 inhib turrets and 2 inhibs for free. Twitch's ulti was down and he's very weak without it. Yes he's strong, but stop acting like he is 1v5'ing.
: Sense when do opinions count as "facts"? i can say ap draven jungler is the next worlds meta and claim it as fact and it dosnt mean anything. i watched all the games. sure it was a slightly different draft but literally nothing new from every solo que game this season. You have stated that it was a different match. which is entirely subject to opinion. i how ever actually have used facts. And tagged my sources. But i guess i cant expect the boards to be any less braindead than the rest of the player base. Simply finding a game to be more creative than any others is entirely subject to opinion so take your facts claims and gtfo
1. They picked nocturne, he has an incredibly low play rate in pro play. 2. They lane swapped. This never happens anymore. 3. They took ignite heal. This never happens. 4. They double jungled. This never happens anymore. These are four ways you are wrong. I could state much more but this is enough to prove you took an L. Don't bother replying.
Ahris (NA)
: Other roles are harder to carry from. Adc is actually still the best role to carry from.
i carry much easier in low elo from mid/top. adc is team reliant and is not easy to carry from in low elo.
: If you want teammates who know how the game works, why would you smurf?
: Have you ever...oh, I dunno...thought of helping them?
Just because I can tell someone what to do to be better doesnt mean they will listen. Most of the time they get offended and don't listen. "Hey thresh try to pressure in lane" "stfu ur bad"
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scazzman (NA)
: "I give up" "gg" "im done"
sorry but if im smurfing and i notice one of my team mates has no idea how this game works and i think i probably can't solo carry then i say gg and afk farm til game is over.
: ***
How about instead of harassing because I'm stating facts. You watch the game so that you know you got proved wrong.
: A Proposed Change to the Worlds Format
Bad idea for multiple reasons. Not gonna bother explaining them because they are obvious.
: Well considering trist is the single most picked champion in the game right now thats hardly what id call breaking the mould. http://www.lolking.net/charts#/Most%20Popular%20Champions - source. An ardent utility support with a heal a shield speedup and knock up where have we seen that before? And a tank galio top top laner with an engage jungler omg what a surprise. Every solo que game this season is just get the ardent trist/twitch fed. there are literally dozens of posts on boards complaining about this exact comp it is nothing new. The champs themselves might be slightly diffrent with kass and noc but the comp itself does the exact same thing. Power up the trist with all the support utility and throw galio at them to soak damage while noc starts the fights. Literally nothing new or surprising its just the same old strat with a slightly diffrent draft.
You obviously didn't watch the game because you have no clue what you're talking about
: really broke the mold with the tristana pick {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
You obviously don't know anything about pro play then.
: Welp....that was SKT being........well, SKT.
How did you not know you can dodge rek sai ultimate? You must never play this game then.
: The only thing worse than ADC meta?
I like both metas but i upvoted anyways since its funny. +1
: HellbornCreator (NA) - 31 minutes ago If you are in bronze you do not have gold-plat mechanics and game sense. Idk what elo you are but people who are in bronze have bronze mechanics and bronze game sense you state IF IM IN BRONZE I DONT HAVE GOLD -PLAT mechanics and game sense... therefore you are stating that im in bronze... after i stated my highest rank was gold... so yea you did say i was in bronze
> [{quoted}](name=jwebb0113,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T02:36:58.894+0000) > > HellbornCreator (NA) - 31 minutes ago > If you are in bronze you do not have gold-plat mechanics and game sense. Idk what elo you are but people who are in bronze have bronze mechanics and bronze game sense > > you state IF IM IN BRONZE I DONT HAVE GOLD -PLAT mechanics and game sense... > > therefore you are stating that im in bronze... after i stated my highest rank was gold... so yea you did say i was in bronze Do you know how the english language works? "IF" is not stating a fact.
Vacus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HellbornCreator,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T02:06:00.880+0000) > > No it is not. if someone has at least gold game sense they will carry themselves out of bronze easily. There is a difference between knowledge and game sense. It's the difference between physics and engineering.
> [{quoted}](name=Vacus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T02:07:30.596+0000) > > There is a difference between knowledge and game sense. > > It's the difference between physics and engineering. No they are different terms for the same thing. Don't bother replying because i'm not gonna argue.
: > [{quoted}](name=HellbornCreator,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T02:05:23.920+0000) > > If you are in bronze you do not have gold-plat mechanics and game sense. Idk what elo you are but people who are in bronze have bronze mechanics and bronze game sense. never said i was in bronze did i? ya know my comment that you quoted to reply too... re read the bottom line... last time i played rank. i was gold... didnt say i was bronze ...
> [{quoted}](name=jwebb0113,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T02:15:43.459+0000) > > never said i was in bronze did i? > > ya know my comment that you quoted to reply too... > > re read the bottom line... > > last time i played rank. i was gold... > > didnt say i was bronze ... Did I say you are bronze? Nope.
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