: Except he talked about her being a disappointment, Kai'sa had far more hype and interest behind her for YEARS, since we found out Kassadin had a daughter. There's no way Qiy is more disappointing than her.
> [{quoted}](name=SpecterVonBaren,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EhETzb36,comment-id=00030000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-08T18:48:58.500+0000) > > Except he talked about her being a disappointment, Kai'sa had far more hype and interest behind her for YEARS, since we found out Kassadin had a daughter. There's no way Qiy is more disappointing than her. Gotta love that one sourpuss downvoring everyone they disagree with. Very mature. Here's an upvote to fix that. And I agree, Kai had a hype train wreck after the reveal, new champ just came out of no where so there were less expectations to be crushed.
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: >But our mage became Sylas, a jacked prison escapee who beats the shit out of people with chains more than using actual magic. This only shows that you haven't ready his lore. The chains that bind him are magical. Ever since he broke out of a Demacian prison and broke the shackles that bind him, the chains have the ability to absorb magic and dish it out if overloaded, which is exactly what his kit is about. Overlapping chains cause a magical explosion. The whole point about his escape was that he read up on Petricite from the books Lux was giving him so he had better understanding of it than any Demacian who merely uses it as an anti-magic tool. And his own ability to steal other magics, which is the sole reason why he managed to break out of his cell, by stealing Lux's magical power to overload the chains and make them explode. Then he set out to pay back Demacia for treating mages as criminals. >Our support became Yuumi, who is literally just a magical cat with a magical book looking for her master with no intriguing story as to who or what she is. Haha! Ow, wow. **The boards:** "We like J|hin because he's a mysterious serial killer psychopath with a penchant for murder BUT IS OBSESSED WITH THE NUMBER 4 AND THEATRICAL BEAUTY". **Also boards:** "A mysterious talking cat that comes from the Bandle City and is looking for her master that mysteriously disappeared, aided by a magical book that is sentient? _Get the fuck out with this bland shit._" >Our AD assassin became Qiyana, a jungle prom queen with a magical hula hoop who thinks she's going to conquer the world. You know nothing of her lore and you're literally passing judgment on her character and design based solely on her looks. Now you need to get the fuck out with this bland excuse for shit.
> [{quoted}](name=Tomoe Gozen,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EhETzb36,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2019-06-08T10:04:00.274+0000) > > This only shows that you haven't ready his lore. > The chains that bind him are magical. Ever since he broke out of a Demacian prison and broke the shackles that bind him, the chains have the ability to absorb magic and dish it out if overloaded, which is exactly what his kit is about. Overlapping chains cause a magical explosion. > > The whole point about his escape was that he read up on Petricite from the books Lux was giving him so he had better understanding of it than any Demacian who merely uses it as an anti-magic tool. And his own ability to steal other magics, which is the sole reason why he managed to break out of his cell, by stealing Lux's magical power to overload the chains and make them explode. Then he set out to pay back Demacia for treating mages as criminals. > > Haha! Ow, wow. > **The boards:** "We like J|hin because he's a mysterious serial killer psychopath with a penchant for murder BUT IS OBSESSED WITH THE NUMBER 4 AND THEATRICAL BEAUTY". > > **Also boards:** "A mysterious talking cat that comes from the Bandle City and is looking for her master that mysteriously disappeared, aided by a magical book that is sentient? _Get the fuck out with this bland shit._" > > You know nothing of her lore and you're literally passing judgment on her character and design based solely on her looks. Now you need to get the fuck out with this bland excuse for shit. Jhin's background at least has some intrigue and interesting connections with already established characters, Yuumi is literally just some random cartoon protagonist in terms of depth. There's a pretty noticeable difference between the two. And also, literally passing judgment on a characters design based on their _design_. Who'd have thunk it amirite. What an idiot, clearly they've never read a single book in their life!
Naalith (NA)
: Hold up, is this a first look at Mordekaiser or am I overlooking a skin?
Surprise Surprise, they're taking away the hellish red glow and replacing it with overused spoopy blue. Thank you Riot, for a second I was going to confuse him with Aatrox or some shit.
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=00000000000000000001000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-22T18:50:56.480+0000) > > You know, it's odd. You posted a picture in your defense, yet you can literally see the tassets hanging outwards from her hip. And her Pauldrons are definitely more spaced. And you literally see layering to her plate, it's not just one sheet in her torso region. Her stomach is still open. The huge pauldrons won't do shit and are an extra waste of material. And nobody will go for the tasset-covered area when the entire vulnerable spot is out there in the open, marked red (which is obviously too thin to be a gambeson). People who say that Kayle was more protected in that armor omit the very issues that they would gladly poke at if the rework never happened. > And you know, there's a thing. She's magical, sure. So what? If I was magical, I'd definitely go double or nothing and wear the additional protection of MAGICAL armor. Yet you didn't have any problems when Nasus, Varus and Ryze ran around almost naked. > There's more male characters with something resembling decent armor that females, and There is only one champ with a decent, functional and viable armor: {{champion:80}} The rest are: Not armored (and, following your logic, can die any moment now): {{champion:63}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:41}} (gang "shoot me in the torso I don't learn from my mistakes" plank) {{champion:104}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:79}} (body fat is an organic kevlar, obviously) {{champion:201}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:11}} (he wears just a couple of pauldrons and leaves his stomach stabbable) {{champion:91}} (don't know how I can see in that bigass hood) {{champion:90}} Armored (and ready for dying from consecutive concussions or self-harm): {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:5}} > Kayle was the ONLY champ wearing a full suit of armor and helm that wasn't some weird shadow ghost thing. Ahem. {{champion:131}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:78}} I'm not adding Leona to that list because people throw dirt at her even though she has even more armor-themed skins than Kayle. > She was also the ONE female humanoid that ran around with a fully obscured face. It's like how the Project female skins usually have to show there lips while dudes get cool full helms, it's just a shitty double-standard that leads to stale character design. Project Vayne's skin hides her face entirely, while Ekko's mask exposes his lower face. Not to mention, there are plenty of other skins that have female champs wearing full masks/have no facial features: {{champion:131}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:37}} Kayle's face never was fully obscured. The unmasked Kayle skin was one of the oldest, people always new how she looks like. It's just like with Yi and his mask: we know how we looks underneath, there are skins that show his face. Same goes with Kassadin. We know how he looked like. That means, it was never an intention to hide Kayle's features from players. Also, there are {{champion:127}} {{champion:203}} whose features are concealed on every skin. > On the counter point, Mobas are about visual clarity, and sameifying her body shape and making her character design more generic and in-line with shitty rito female tropes stands a very realistic chance of making her difficult to pick out in a hurry among a mob, at least in the earlier half of the match. You mean, you would confuse Kayle (the ONLY winged champion) with {{champion:22}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:131}} while somehow being able to tell {{champion:86}} and {{champion:122}} apart? https://i.gifer.com/1guL.gif
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=000000000000000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T21:28:56.009+0000) > > Her stomach is still open. The huge pauldrons won't do shit and are an extra waste of material. And nobody will go for the tasset-covered area when the entire vulnerable spot is out there in the open, marked red (which is obviously too thin to be a gambeson). > > People who say that Kayle was more protected in that armor omit the very issues that they would gladly poke at if the rework never happened. > > Yet you didn't have any problems when Nasus, Varus and Ryze ran around almost naked. > > There is only one champ with a decent, functional and viable armor: > > {{champion:80}} > > The rest are: > > Not armored (and, following your logic, can die any moment now): > > {{champion:63}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:41}} (gang "shoot me in the torso I don't learn from my mistakes" plank) {{champion:104}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:79}} (body fat is an organic kevlar, obviously) {{champion:201}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:11}} (he wears just a couple of pauldrons and leaves his stomach stabbable) {{champion:91}} (don't know how I can see in that bigass hood) {{champion:90}} > > Armored (and ready for dying from consecutive concussions or self-harm): {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:5}} > > Ahem. > > {{champion:131}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:78}} > > I'm not adding Leona to that list because people throw dirt at her even though she has even more armor-themed skins than Kayle. > > Project Vayne's skin hides her face entirely, while Ekko's mask exposes his lower face. Not to mention, there are plenty of other skins that have female champs wearing full masks/have no facial features: {{champion:131}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:37}} > > Kayle's face never was fully obscured. The unmasked Kayle skin was one of the oldest, people always new how she looks like. It's just like with Yi and his mask: we know how we looks underneath, there are skins that show his face. Same goes with Kassadin. We know how he looked like. That means, it was never an intention to hide Kayle's features from players. > > Also, there are > > {{champion:127}} {{champion:203}} > > whose features are concealed on every skin. > > You mean, you would confuse Kayle (the ONLY winged champion) with {{champion:22}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:131}} while somehow being able to tell {{champion:86}} and {{champion:122}} apart? > > https://i.gifer.com/1guL.gif The stomach being unarmored was unfortunate before, but using that as a justification to ditch good portions of the rest of her armor is silly. Hell, that area being unarmored can even be justified as to retain range of motion if we're purely defending classic Kayle. But do note, I never said she was a flying piece of historically accurate armor. Just that it was LEAGUE's better than what she has now, both in aesthetics and relative practicality as far as fantasy armor goes. I WOULD gladly poke fun at those issues if her visuals were still to remain the same, that's the point, there is room for IMPROVEMENT. But I still LIKED the look, the idea, and when they go and change it in a way that makes the issues her old armor worse, OF COURSE I and others would say she was more protected before. Logically, there is nothing wrong with complaining about both. Nasus is a literal anthropomorphic god-dog thing, so he's omitted from a humanoid argument. Varus I dislike visually, but to be fair he's one of few males PUSHING the crotch line to it's limit, while a good deal of the female cast runs around in skimpy bullshit. He's at least got a better lore justification than most as well, seeing as he's just gotten an actually fleshy body back after a LONG while and is really into his own physical perfection. Want to talk about almost naked? Janna, and there's NO lore justification for that. As for males wearing half decent fantasy armor, there's {{champion:268}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:122}} if we're taking liberties here, like including Brand, Renek and Nasus. At least there fellas aren't running around in spandex that perfectly accents there bulge or ass. Even if the armor isn't practical in our sense, it's at least decent looking if you suspend your belief. But hell, if you want to say we need to make Kayle's armor more like Garen's with 40k pauldrons, ridiculously armored is way cooler than sex-object any day of the week. Also{{champion:89}} deserves the criticism she gets because she has absolutely no muscle mass, wears high heels and a skintight body suit under her small plastic armor bits, and the only part of her really 'armored' even when you suspend her disbelief is her legs because of the most goofy looking metallic skirt ever. They wanted an armored female, but they just couldn't get past pushing the fact that she's female in your face. She has bloody boob armor after all, as if need reassurance that there's breasts under there. I will say this though, the final argument you threw at me gave me a laugh. Garen and Darius may be similar is shape, but just looking at there faces you can see a clear differences in individuals. Hell, just look at how more rugged Darius's face is in comparison, with all those crease lines, and his jaw as a definite square shape to it while Garen's line is a bit more subtle. What do we have with the ladys? They slap on different hair color and eyes, occasional skin color, and keep the same flawless model skin and facial structure. The biggest difference you got there is Elise, who just looks like she's the same as the rest of those but with a monster suit on and some coloration changes, while Cass has a tail. This is a well documented issue as well, so I don't know why you'd even bring barby dress up to the table here when you're arguing about being able to tell things apart. Just strikes me as illogical.
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:54:57.848+0000) > > Because tassets, on no planet, look like THAT. That's just some strange side-armor that would flat out restrict range of motion and protect jack all. Tassets were NEVER flat up hugging your body. > > Especially since they want to push the sex-god uber hourglass body shape, that sliver of armor is indented INWARD towards her midsection since it hugs her frame so damn much, A direct hit stands an absurd chance of causing that to cave inward and stab her in the side. There's a reason they look like metal skirt things that bloom OUTWARDS Her previous armor hugged her body just as tight. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/9e/Kayle_OriginalCentered.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180414203327 Also, you keep saying "but she gonna get stabbed!!!" while ignoring that she is immortal and that magical/godlike beings in the universe ignore armor quite a lot {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:110}}. Or are male characters somehow immune to stabbing all of sudden? > So not only is it nothing resembling a proper tasset, it's bloody suicidal. You're saying it like it's a Kingdom Come: Deliverance and not a MOBA about characters hitting each other with absurd weapons.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2019-02-22T13:10:35.888+0000) > > Her previous armor hugged her body just as tight. > > https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/9e/Kayle_OriginalCentered.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180414203327 > > Also, you keep saying "but she gonna get stabbed!!!" while ignoring that she is immortal and that magical/godlike beings in the universe ignore armor quite a lot {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:110}}. Or are male characters somehow immune to stabbing all of sudden? > > You're saying it like it's a Kingdom Come: Deliverance and not a MOBA about characters hitting each other with absurd weapons. You know, it's odd. You posted a picture in your defense, yet you can literally see the tassets hanging outwards from her hip. And her Pauldrons are definitely more spaced. And you literally see layering to her plate, it's not just one sheet in her torso region. And you know, there's a thing. She's magical, sure. So what? If I was magical, I'd definitely go double or nothing and wear the additional protection of MAGICAL armor. There's more male characters with something resembling decent armor that females, and Kayle was the ONLY champ wearing a full suit of armor and helm that wasn't some weird shadow ghost thing. She was also the ONE female humanoid that ran around with a fully obscured face. It's like how the Project female skins usually have to show there lips while dudes get cool full helms, it's just a shitty double-standard that leads to stale character design. On the counter point, Mobas are about visual clarity, and sameifying her body shape and making her character design more generic and in-line with shitty rito female tropes stands a very realistic chance of making her difficult to pick out in a hurry among a mob, at least in the earlier half of the match.
Dynikus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:54:57.848+0000) > > Because tassets, on no planet, look like THAT. That's just some strange side-armor that would flat out restrict range of motion and protect jack all. Tassets were NEVER flat up hugging your body. > > Especially since they want to push the sex-god uber hourglass body shape, that sliver of armor is indented INWARD towards her midsection since it hugs her frame so damn much, A direct hit stands an absurd chance of causing that to cave inward and stab her in the side. There's a reason they look like metal skirt things that bloom OUTWARDS > > So not only is it nothing resembling a proper tasset, it's bloody suicidal. Well no one ever said her new armor was practical. She would impale herself with her cuirass if she ever bent forward. My only point was she still had tassets, however useless they are.
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T08:06:45.600+0000) > > Well no one ever said her new armor was practical. She would impale herself with her cuirass if she ever bent forward. My only point was she still had tassets, however useless they are. Except those really are NOT tassets,which are at there core PLATE armor. Was Kayle has is basically a metal strap connecting her leg armor to her upper armor.
Dynikus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:41:27.195+0000) > > ...those are not tassels, my friend Faulds and tassets were armor that protected your hips/waist/upper thighs. Why do you think the armor on her hips aren't tassets?
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:45:39.880+0000) > > Faulds and tassets were armor that protected your hips/waist/upper thighs. Why do you think the armor on her hips aren't tassets? Because tassets, on no planet, look like THAT. That's just some strange side-armor that would flat out restrict range of motion and protect jack all. Tassets were NEVER flat up hugging your body. Especially since they want to push the sex-god uber hourglass body shape, that sliver of armor is indented INWARD towards her midsection since it hugs her frame so damn much, A direct hit stands an absurd chance of causing that to cave inward and stab her in the side. There's a reason they look like metal skirt things that bloom OUTWARDS So not only is it nothing resembling a proper tasset, it's bloody suicidal.
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:41:27.195+0000) > > ...those are not tassels, my friend I think you messed up tassels with tassets, because you said tassets in your post.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:44:21.704+0000) > > I think you messed up tassels with tassets, because you said tassets in your post. Oh, that's a spelling error, thanks for the heads up. Hard to keep track of proper grammer when your salty as hell and half asleep. Apologies for any confusion
: Did it?
> [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bxZz7Y2i,comment-id=000100030000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:30:13.215+0000) > > Did it? She went a plate-mailed god of war to typical lol female character. Even her helmet felt Rito's 'creative' wrath. Tis the tragedy of our time.
Dynikus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:27:42.793+0000) > > Okay, well where are they then? > > https://i.imgur.com/fTT9Tjj.jpg/img the white/gold on her hips. You're a bit late to the outrage party though, they've already said they're retexturing the model to better represent the armor she's wearing because a lot of people interpreted her entire midsection as a body suit.
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HorrEjpA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T07:35:40.171+0000) > > the white/gold on her hips. > You're a bit late to the outrage party though, they've already said they're retexturing the model to better represent the armor she's wearing because a lot of people interpreted her entire midsection as a body suit. ...those are not tassets, my friend
Frostfel (NA)
: Rework Kayle Skins
Is there a none option? This is the first VU I think I've universally just hated everything about.
: Not for long.
> [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bxZz7Y2i,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-21T23:42:03.654+0000) > > Not for long. It's alright, base skin lost ALL the metal, literally. Morde still sits atop the throne of Badassery
: Kayle's base hair looks weird
It looks weird because it's not a cool helmet like Kayle deserves. Curse you Rito
Rioter Comments
Galiö (NA)
: Thresh 8/10 Urgot 3/10 Lucian 10/10
> [{quoted}](name=Galiö,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2zOLTPuY,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-08-14T19:18:33.733+0000) > > Thresh 8/10 > Urgot 3/10 > Lucian 10/10 Lol Urgot is easily the most interesting and creative here, Lucian is literally one arm away from being just ANOTHER cowboy skin. Hail UrGod
: One of the most renowned legacy skins and crimson akali are 2 completely different issues -_-
> [{quoted}](name=Yung Daemon Sand,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oM5Ej4BT,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-07T18:43:22.640+0000) > > One of the most renowned legacy skins and crimson akali are 2 completely different issues -_- Helmetess Kayle is so mundane though, it's literally the exact sane as base skin but trading the awesome as hell helm for a generic sameface model
: They could do an exposed jaw style helm that covers/frames her upper face that qualifies as face coverage though, which would kind distance her from her Samus Aran inspiration. That said though, 6/10 skins (Classic included here) show her without any full face mask and show her face exposed, so she's honestly been more represented in her skins without a mask than with one. That said, Unmasked, Viridian, and Azure are all extremely simple recolors (Unmasked is still mostly one), so they may give it the Crimson Akali -> Infernal Akali and the Human Ryze -> Young Ryze treatments and make them new, more interesting skins.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oM5Ej4BT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-07T13:13:40.095+0000) > > They could do an exposed jaw style helm that covers/frames her upper face that qualifies as face coverage though, which would kind distance her from her Samus Aran inspiration. That said though, 6/10 skins (Classic included here) show her without any full face mask and show her face exposed, so she's honestly been more represented in her skins without a mask than with one. > > That said, Unmasked, Viridian, and Azure are all extremely simple recolors (Unmasked is still mostly one), so they may give it the Crimson Akali -> Infernal Akali and the Human Ryze -> Young Ryze treatments and make them new, more interesting skins. They need to take it easy for a while with the exposed jawline helmets for female champions, it got really boring and monotonous when every female Project Skin HAD to be showing their booootiful lips while alot of the dudes got to run around in some of the coolest robro helmets in the game. Even Leona, who you'd think would just be rocking the entire tank suit package. We don't need to their lower face to know they're a woman Riot, it's alright. Kayle's helmet is awesome and has lore significance, no need to throw it away when hardly any other champs, especially those of the feminine persuasion, obscure their face with some rockin metal helm greatness
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Give Evelynn her psychotic laughter
Jesus that first laugh Kill it with fire lol
: megalomania at its finest. Any semblance of a character Xerath had he lost in his Ascension. He just wants to make everyone his slave and be a supreme evil overlord.
> [{quoted}](name=NA Darklarik,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FYQIbEqH,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-08-05T03:24:35.531+0000) > > megalomania at its finest. Any semblance of a character Xerath had he lost in his Ascension. He just wants to make everyone his slave and be a supreme evil overlord. Part of it is probably him just figuring 'fuck it this is the hand I've been dealt, might as well play it'. The man has spent almost of his life believing he was getting juped out of his freedom, then when he finally decides to do something Azir pulls his little 'Just a prank bro!' and frees Xerath along with the rest of the slaves, but too late Xerath FINALLY decided to do something about being a slave and of course going back is literally impossible now. You'd probably go a bit power mad too after being repeatedly gut punched at every turn in your life and then BAM, you're a god. We all would.
Ahpe (NA)
: Sex sells
> [{quoted}](name=Ahpe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7r3bUXUt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-03T12:07:55.437+0000) > > Sex sells You'd think the 'sexy' skin would the one you need to pay for then, Rito be swimmin in dosh
Meddler (NA)
: Agreed. If this mode shows promise and we keep working on it longer term would definitely want to support it better than we have modes like Dominion in the past.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=yKk22n3O,comment-id=00230000,timestamp=2018-07-31T18:12:06.717+0000) > > Agreed. If this mode shows promise and we keep working on it longer term would definitely want to support it better than we have modes like Dominion in the past. You've mentioned the blessed, lost child of Rito Praise be to Meddler, Herald of the Second Son! Praise be to Nexus Blitz, Great Savior of the Quick Non-Aram Match!
: Images of the Kinkou Order popped on the universe !
Almost thought the one on the end had some kind of Bloodborne Trick Weapon for a moment. Whatever it is, though, it looks cool along with that entire character, they got my vote for next ninja.
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: Mecha Asol looks cool and I like it how his slick design and green paintjob remind me of Rayquaza. I'm a big fan of Mecha Skinline as well, I preffer it over Battlecast. ...it's just it get's outclassed by PROJECT skinline.
> [{quoted}](name=EnergonVlada,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=H3VdOEEE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-07-31T16:57:15.366+0000) > > Mecha Asol looks cool and I like it how his slick design and green paintjob remind me of Rayquaza. I'm a big fan of Mecha Skinline as well, I preffer it over Battlecast. > ...it's just it get's outclassed by PROJECT skinline. Someone needs to learn to embrace the GLORIOUS EVOLUTION No need for fancy do-dats and gadjets when you could have your future carved through missle and flame, as banners of gunmetel grey and hellish red fly overtop the scorched earth. Plus BC Urgot looks like a conplete badass spider tank! And Skarner has Chainblades!!! You knnnnoooww you wanna pet the cite chainblade scorpi boi!
: Ah I see, so it's like that. In that case I'd say it does The Void _less_ of a disservice, but still a disservice. A ten year old girl with a knife shouldn't be able to take on void creatures, especially if the creature is big enough to create an entire skin suit from. I don't like the idea that the void still has tons of weak and defenseless creatures in it because then it makes it start to sound like "Just another Earth, have a nice day." I don't want just a select few things about The Void to be horrifying, I want its very air and most inferior creatures to be horrible vile bastards. I like the idea that Kha'zix, Vel'koz, Kog'maw and Rek'sai are among the _lowest_ life forms The Void has to offer. The idea that they were able to creep through the circumstantial cracks because they were the tiniest, weakest and least C'thulhian hellspawns among the whole Void just does so much better of a job making it seem exactly as Malzahar and Cho'gath claim: Absolutely undefeatable. That makes it seem so much scarier, doesn't it? Oh and I left Cho out because it's already suggested he's way scarier than the other Void champions, and also even more intelligent than humans. His was a special case where he was specifically pulled and brought here rather than the others who weaseled their way in. Though Cho's lore is still based on the idea of there being an Institute of War and Summoners, which apparently aren't things anymore so.... eh.
> [{quoted}](name=Leverette,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=a08ILpQ5,comment-id=0005000700000000,timestamp=2018-06-27T03:38:26.235+0000) > > Ah I see, so it's like that. In that case I'd say it does The Void _less_ of a disservice, but still a disservice. A ten year old girl with a knife shouldn't be able to take on void creatures, especially if the creature is big enough to create an entire skin suit from. I don't like the idea that the void still has tons of weak and defenseless creatures in it because then it makes it start to sound like "Just another Earth, have a nice day." I don't want just a select few things about The Void to be horrifying, I want its very air and most inferior creatures to be horrible vile bastards. I like the idea that Kha'zix, Vel'koz, Kog'maw and Rek'sai are among the _lowest_ life forms The Void has to offer. The idea that they were able to creep through the circumstantial cracks because they were the tiniest, weakest and least C'thulhian hellspawns among the whole Void just does so much better of a job making it seem exactly as Malzahar and Cho'gath claim: Absolutely undefeatable. > > That makes it seem so much scarier, doesn't it? Oh and I left Cho out because it's already suggested he's way scarier than the other Void champions, and also even more intelligent than humans. His was a special case where he was specifically pulled and brought here rather than the others who weaseled their way in. Though Cho's lore is still based on the idea of there being an Institute of War and Summoners, which apparently aren't things anymore so.... eh. Shhh, that knife was like super duper awesome and Kai used her supreme ninja training to like mega EXECUTE suit boi. But not execute?? She wears him now...y'know, the void hellspawn from lovecraft muderkill land. As power armor. And that, like, totally means she's not exposed to any lovecraftian bad mojo, because she's, like, already made the suit of the defeat, so she strong and no take that, she wear it. But it not touch her? Yes. Apologies, this bit of deus ex vomita involving the void suit is just laughably garbage writing, I can't help but treat it as childish.
Reav3 (NA)
: Kai'Sa never went to the actual void that was opened during the Shurima Void Event. The rift was mostly closed by the Ascended. Currently in Shurima there are small void tears that void creatures come out of and inhabit a bunch of underground caverns and caves near Icathia and other parts of Shurima. The current Shurimans refer to that as the Void as they don't actually know of the true horrors of the void from the past war. Kai'Sa was only ever in those caverns/caves so she was never really exposed to the same void that the Ascended were exposed to.
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=a08ILpQ5,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2018-06-26T16:23:46.147+0000) > > Kai'Sa never went to the actual void that was opened during the Shurima Void Event. The rift was mostly closed by the Ascended. Currently in Shurima there are small void tears that void creatures come out of and inhabit a bunch of underground caverns and caves near Icathia and other parts of Shurima. The current Shurimans refer to that as the Void as they don't actually know of the true horrors of the void from the past war. Kai'Sa was only ever in those caverns/caves so she was never really exposed to the same void that the Ascended were exposed to. Oh ho ho, betcha corruptive lovecraftian mojo would stay corruptive even if it was in smaller doses, and the effect would only be greater on individuals that don't benefit from being blessed god warrior things. The fact that the girl remains pretty much standard human physically, and in decent mental health, is so far fetched I forgot the whole insitute of war retcon was to get us **_better_** writing. As it stands, pre- lore-revamp Nautilus existed years before Kai and still portrays isolation while dealing with super natural mumbo jumbo much, much better. He came out of the ocean a shell of the man he once was. Not some typical hero protagonist cutey, based diving suit god got seriously messed up both in mind and form. It was interesting, it was fun, and it wasn't a complete ass pull that messed with the lore of an established faction/region/species thing(Void) just to show us how OMG SPECIAL AWESOME the fellow was. Poor show Reav3.
: When Kai’sa Fights the void for a tenth of as long as the ascended have let me know.
> [{quoted}](name=WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=a08ILpQ5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-26T05:02:20.588+0000) > > When Kai’sa Fights the void for a tenth of as long as the ascended have let me know. Kai'sa also isn't a blessed demi-doge with super awesome god powers. She's literally just a human girl. The corruptible influence should be much more potent on the normie scrub. But nah, deus ex waifuina.
: As a side note to the whole "Size and shape" thing, she can shape-shift into a human of her targets desires, including male forms, in order to seduce. So while she's petite and rather racy looking, she can become a burly, manly beast to allure the wild girls (and guys that like it). She can even become semi-human for the anthro/furry group that wants to have fun with not so human people, though like everything she uses, it's only an illusion used to lure in her next victim.
> [{quoted}](name=One Best Gay,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tAkivj8O,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-06-25T02:26:33.135+0000) > > As a side note to the whole "Size and shape" thing, she can shape-shift into a human of her targets desires, including male forms, in order to seduce. So while she's petite and rather racy looking, she can become a burly, manly beast to allure the wild girls (and guys that like it). She can even become semi-human for the anthro/furry group that wants to have fun with not so human people, though like everything she uses, it's only an illusion used to lure in her next victim. Burly manly beast Eve legendary skin when rito?!
: > What, the gender? Yes. > You know Kindred is literally the League universe's embodiment of death right? It/They're basically a (possibly) sentient force of nature. I was aware of that. I don't know where you got the implication that I wasn't. > Getting hissy about someone calling it a male is like getting mad that someone referred to a tornado as female. I didn't get "hissy" or "mad". I just find it funny that after all these years, people still don't know Kindred is two champions. And even then, he thought Lamb was a man. I just found that funny is all.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=96Ui2aaZ,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-23T05:54:52.874+0000) > > Yes. > > I was aware of that. I don't know where you got the implication that I wasn't. > > I didn't get "hissy" or "mad". I just find it funny that after all these years, people still don't know Kindred is two champions. > > And even then, he thought Lamb was a man. > > I just found that funny is all. Lamb probably is a man in some cultures on Runeterra, they are portrayed different regionally, and probably percieved differently based on the individual. It is a bit odd calling it that, but honestly kindred is just something you might as well call whatever you want since it might it's all heck of ambigous over whether they are two separate entities at all, or one, or neither. All we really know is that it reprsents death. And lore ambiguity. Loooots of lore ambiguity
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=96Ui2aaZ,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2018-06-22T15:53:33.792+0000) > > Mix what up? ... What I said?
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=96Ui2aaZ,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-22T16:33:53.784+0000) > > ... > > What I said? What, the gender? You know Kindred is literally the League universe's embodiment of death right? It/They're basically a (possibly) sentient force of nature. Getting hissy about someone calling it a male is like getting mad that someone referred to a tornado as female.
: > his > h i s > H I S > ****H I S**** How the frick did you mix those up so badly?
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=96Ui2aaZ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-21T06:31:45.305+0000) > > How the frick did you mix those up so badly? Mix what up?
: i bought battle born cuz i love the armor (its blue) and i get to see her face
> [{quoted}](name=HeroGilgamesh,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=i7lbRoy8,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-20T17:56:14.318+0000) > > i bought battle born cuz i love the armor (its blue) and i get to see her face You can see her face in most of her skins though. But I suppose it could be consideres neat looking if you enjoy laughing at boob plate too. Always gives me a chuckle
: Aether Wing Kayle also has no helmet~
> [{quoted}](name=EyesOfTheFox,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=i7lbRoy8,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-20T14:55:56.323+0000) > > Aether Wing Kayle also has no helmet~ Alot of her skins ditch the helmet, because the hard truth is that most players would rather stare at a pretty lady then have a gender ambiguous suit of kickass armor smiting cretins and delivering holy judgment. Sex sells and all that, even if it leads to kicking Kayle's intended character thematic in the teeth. It's depressing as someone who really like awsome helmets
: Lel, I think the skins are fine but not as good as the last years VS skins. The skins look alright (however, for my taste by far too visual noisy) and the animation are pretty good, especially since it is really difficult to these for Melee champions. However the champion choice feels bad. Especially since Darius already has a legendary. Also, both Yasuo and Riven didn't felt evil. Like, sure they the extrem side of spectre, but you could get behind both ideas. Garen and Darius? Both are too extreme. Like, I can't even chose a side to pick since I despite both views. Well, simple not my cup of tea.
> [{quoted}](name=Tialilia,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=jKP4FEot,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-15T12:51:34.693+0000) > > Lel, I think the skins are fine but not as good as the last years VS skins. > The skins look alright (however, for my taste by far too visual noisy) and the animation are pretty good, especially since it is really difficult to these for Melee champions. > However the champion choice feels bad. Especially since Darius already has a legendary. > Also, both Yasuo and Riven didn't felt evil. Like, sure they the extrem side of spectre, but you could get behind both ideas. > Garen and Darius? Both are too extreme. Like, I can't even chose a side to pick since I despite both views. > Well, simple not my cup of tea. The fact that both god kings feel like they perverted what their ancestors represented is actually really cool. Their ancestors would certainly NOT be smiling on them, Imperial
: id pay 50 bucks to have dominion permanently unlocked in my account
> [{quoted}](name=fallenreaper88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E8xv4Eke,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-16T15:57:33.553+0000) > > id pay 50 bucks to have dominion permanently unlocked in my account I would actually get back in the game just for this, classic dominion was the bee's knees
: Why are people saying "You'd be mad too if you were trapped away for 1000 years"? No, I wouldn't. I'd be dead. Even if I was immune to aging, didn't need to eat/sleep/breathe/drink or anything else, I would still be dead from such an extreme level of psychological damage. I am a human being, and human beings will literally die if they are locked away in solitary confinement for too long. We are _far_ too social creatures for that and quite literally require some form of social interaction in order to survive. Just locking someone away for a single week often has extreme, permanent and irreversible side effects that cause them to become dangerously insane. Do this for much longer and they will simply stop living. The brain can't handle that level of damage. You guys are trying to use "The Darkin are a race now" as a reason why it would be logical to treat them the same way humans would behave, but in the same argument you are also completely separating them from any kind of comparison to humans by assuming, wildly incorrectly, that someone would simply "be angry" after a thousand years of true solitude. No, you would "be angry" if you were sent to the corner for fifteen minutes. As the punishment grows, very different emotional responses begin to occur. I know the follow-up argument is gonna be, "Yeah well he's not a human he's a Darkin so he can just be angry about it" but then that brings me back to my original point of "So in other words you're saying he _shouldn't_ have a human response to his circumstances and you just personally want it to be anger for no reason other than that's just what you want." Anyway, the real issue is that people like me who love the current Aatrox will no longer have what we loved, and it will be gone forever with no trace of what it once was. I _liked_ that old Aatrox couldn't be compared to humans. I _liked_ that his motives and behavior were singularly focused on the one thing that he literally embodied. It made him seem less like "some guy" and more like a mysterious entity that I know next to nothing about, other than that he clearly does seem to be a perfect embodiment of one specific thing, seemingly without being clouded out by other irrelevant things. Before, I could say "Wow, a physical manifestation of a specific concept? How interesting!" but now he's just "another dude" and much less unique for it. I'm fine with you guys being able to enjoy this new character and I genuinely do hope that you get a lot of fun and happiness out of him. I just think he should be a new character altogether, that way your happiness isn't coming at the cost of mine. I don't like Ezreal, but I wouldn't steal him from you guys just for that. I just accept that I don't like him and respect that he makes others happy. Why isn't this considered the proper way to handle disagreement? Why is creating pain for others our preferred method?
> [{quoted}](name=Leverette,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EQHMqBqn,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-06-13T19:46:17.506+0000) > > Why are people saying "You'd be mad too if you were trapped away for 1000 years"? No, I wouldn't. I'd be dead. Even if I was immune to aging, didn't need to eat/sleep/breathe/drink or anything else, I would still be dead from such an extreme level of psychological damage. I am a human being, and human beings will literally die if they are locked away in solitary confinement for too long. We are _far_ too social creatures for that and quite literally require some form of social interaction in order to survive. Just locking someone away for a single week often has extreme, permanent and irreversible side effects that cause them to become dangerously insane. Do this for much longer and they will simply stop living. The brain can't handle that level of damage. > > You guys are trying to use "The Darkin are a race now" as a reason why it would be logical to treat them the same way humans would behave, but in the same argument you are also completely separating them from any kind of comparison to humans by assuming, wildly incorrectly, that someone would simply "be angry" after a thousand years of true solitude. No, you would "be angry" if you were sent to the corner for fifteen minutes. As the punishment grows, very different emotional responses begin to occur. I know the follow-up argument is gonna be, "Yeah well he's not a human he's a Darkin so he can just be angry about it" but then that brings me back to my original point of "So in other words you're saying he _shouldn't_ have a human response to his circumstances and you just personally want it to be anger for no reason other than that's just what you want." > > Anyway, the real issue is that people like me who love the current Aatrox will no longer have what we loved, and it will be gone forever with no trace of what it once was. I _liked_ that old Aatrox couldn't be compared to humans. I _liked_ that his motives and behavior were singularly focused on the one thing that he literally embodied. It made him seem less like "some guy" and more like a mysterious entity that I know next to nothing about, other than that he clearly does seem to be a perfect embodiment of one specific thing, seemingly without being clouded out by other irrelevant things. Before, I could say "Wow, a physical manifestation of a specific concept? How interesting!" but now he's just "another dude" and much less unique for it. > > I'm fine with you guys being able to enjoy this new character and I genuinely do hope that you get a lot of fun and happiness out of him. I just think he should be a new character altogether, that way your happiness isn't coming at the cost of mine. I don't like Ezreal, but I wouldn't steal him from you guys just for that. I just accept that I don't like him and respect that he makes others happy. Why isn't this considered the proper way to handle disagreement? Why is creating pain for others our preferred method? Oh look, you're getting downvoted for bringing up really good points. Gotta love people who can't handle counterarguments and instead have to hide behind the "uR WrOng!!" button.
Terozu (NA)
: Hes an immortal divine weapon not a human...
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EQHMqBqn,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-14T03:31:01.623+0000) > > Hes an immortal divine weapon not a human... Which means he doesn't need to seem like he has a believable personality, he's on a totally different level then mere mortals, him being the brutal force of nature war embodiment that his old self was could be as completely normal for him as breathing air is for us.
AmazoX (EUW)
: #*Completely fucking agreed.* If you were a Warrior *DARKIN* trapped for thousands of years and finally get the fruition of freedom, YOU WILL BE ANGRY AND FUCKING THRIVE to take your anger out on everyone in your sight. He reminds me of Atrocitus, and I fucking love how he is right now.
> [{quoted}](name=AmazoX,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EQHMqBqn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-13T10:46:02.476+0000) > > #*Completely fucking agreed.* > > > If you were a Warrior *DARKIN* trapped for thousands of years and finally get the fruition of freedom, YOU WILL BE ANGRY AND FUCKING THRIVE to take your anger out on everyone in your sight. > > He reminds me of Atrocitus, and I fucking love how he is right now. Actually 1000 years in a And I Must Scream situation would probably leave a sentient creature with a similar tnought process to us as an empty shell of a creature. A single year of it can be and IS devastating to the mind by itself. But lol he angry and fun makes sense
: As much as I love those animations, I'm not sure if I like this new art direction. He lost that lean build and now has your average masculine dorito build, his voice has so much processing that I had to turn on subtitles, and he's seemingly lost that calm warrior poet vibe that made him so interesting to listen to :/
> [{quoted}](name=Dragonzzilla,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=8ipQEKvE,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-06-12T15:34:16.862+0000) > > As much as I love those animations, I'm not sure if I like this new art direction. He lost that lean build and now has your average masculine dorito build, his voice has a lot of processing, I had to turn on subtitles, and he's lost that calm warrior poet vibe that made him so interesting to listen to :/ An interesting personality lost to main streaming. I actually kind of liked the slightly feminine vibe he gave off too, but I suppose since Ezreal exists we need much more assurance of our masculinity when we stare at some pixels, so bam heres giant ripped russian satan man who's voice is so freakin gritty you can hardly understand him. No thanks Rito, I liked the dark poetic muttering of current darkin boi
: > What you suggest takes away some of the importance from the Void champions... Out of curiosity, do you feel they *have* distinct and interesting characterization? Legitimately curious, as to me they're all extremely bland lore-wise aside from maybe having a unique way they wish to bring destruction. I should also clarify that I don't think this entity *controls* them, per se, so much as watches them with active interest. It sends them out, certainly, but after that it would take more of a passive role. My goal was to find a way to make these champions fit into the roster of hero-level entities, rather than just being largely flat killing machines that you could feasibly replace Baron Nashor with and kill for a buff, and, short of making every void monster into a relatable personality (at which point the Void loses some of its flavor), this seems an interesting and lore-thematic way to deliver that.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=4rzsORyA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-10T19:52:23.770+0000) > > Out of curiosity, do you feel they *have* distinct and interesting characterization? Legitimately curious, as to me they're all extremely bland lore-wise aside from maybe having a unique way they wish to bring destruction. > > I should also clarify that I don't think this entity *controls* them, per se, so much as watches them with active interest. It sends them out, certainly, but after that it would take more of a passive role. My goal was to find a way to make these champions fit into the roster of hero-level entities, rather than just being largely flat killing machines that you could feasibly replace Baron Nashor with and kill for a buff, and, short of making every void monster into a relatable personality (at which point the Void loses some of its flavor), this seems an interesting and lore-thematic way to deliver that. Many charactera fall flat in personality or relatibility in this game, one of which being one of those 'better off' void champions mind you. Cho Gath only suffers from having outdated quotes that indicate he speaks to a summoner. Keep the almost dark prophet-esque dialogue about sending everyone screaming into the void, and his indications that he finds our reality revolting and alien, mix with some classy lines about neverending hunger and what not, and just leave out summoner speak, and you have a serviceable character that has as much personality and depth as, say, super alien suit girl hope fighter x3. I mean, at least cho indicates a clear and strong revulsion in interacting with a completely different and conflicting plane of existence, one of his quotes ishl is screaming that the sunlight burns him in an agonized voice. Meanwhile Kai literally runs around wearing a void abomination and has suffered zero discernable physical mutatioms and her personality really isn't really indicating of any negative side effects from living in a Void touched fallout zone inhabited by alien, carniverous monstrosities that would be out to murderize her 24/7, with zero human or benevolent sentient species interaction. Lol wut He also calls humans hideous creatures with vocalized disgust. That's personality right there, and adds just to how different a standard creature from the void must be that something as bland as a human comes off as completely revolting to him. And Vel is best char, I love my floating scientest eyeball who can't comprehend why our puny skeletal system would be on the inside of our bodies. Quite peculiar indeed
: > [{quoted}](name=Bultz,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=kIyzn0vF,comment-id=000000010002,timestamp=2018-04-19T19:09:44.752+0000) > > Hmmm did we really need another water themed support? {{champion:267}} Kind of fills that role. {{champion:111}} too i guess. Seems like a wasted chance. But why? That's like saying that another Fire {{champion:63}} {{champion:1}} or Ice {{champion:34}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:48}} based champion would be "a wasted chance". I'm personally really hyped about the new champion, he or she sounds like a lot of fun.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=kIyzn0vF,comment-id=0000000100020000,timestamp=2018-04-19T19:14:53.622+0000) > > But why? That's like saying that another Fire {{champion:63}} {{champion:1}} or Ice {{champion:34}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:48}} based champion would be "a wasted chance". I'm personally really hyped about the new champion, he or she sounds like a lot of fun. I think he means specifically water themed support characters. There's some decent diversity as far as roles go with the ice champs, but at are two heavy water users, Nami and Naut, are both currently sitting in the support role. Fire needs a bit more diversity as well, but I can see how it's harder to make someone who's fire empowered do much more than burn the heck outta people.
Dolyna (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HeresyUntoFedex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XdlppA2Y,comment-id=000c0000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-08T16:32:34.136+0000) > > But Runeterra is still a pretty hostile place, especially when you're running around wearing an eldritch abomination. An eldritch abomination that is interested in self preservation, I might add. The fact that the suit exposes her center mass(area where most people would aim ranged weaponry due to ease of hitting and all the important organs in that area, btw) is only counter intitutive to both was Kai and the suit want, which is not dying obviously. She can activate the helmet any time she wants. (In the game, hit ctrl-5 to activate the helmet if you want.)
> [{quoted}](name=Dolyna,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XdlppA2Y,comment-id=000c00000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-08T17:19:16.112+0000) > > She can activate the helmet any time she wants. > > (In the game, hit ctrl-5 to activate the helmet if you want.) Still though, the fact that her suit even has a clevage window option just doesn't make much sense on the lore side of things. But thank you for the heads up. I don't play Kai myself, and while I did know that the toggle was a feature I wasn't aware how to specifically trigger it.
GenoXx (NA)
: You're over thinking it, which is surprisingly common in these type of threads. I could point every detail about Malphite (and feel offended) because he doesn't look like the rock I want him too. Bringing up random facts doesn't help that either. Her visual design doesn't contradict her lore. the bio suit, is a living creature that can feast off her anytime given when it's not being fed. And she's had that suit since she was little. Understandable why she look the way she does. But I guess overthinkers want her to have a turtle neck armor because they see skin. And in their eye's skin is bad. I mean she doesn't have clothes on under the suit if that helps.......So why are you complaining again? ( Give me a point that isnt insecurity based or over thought about)
> [{quoted}](name=GenoXx,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XdlppA2Y,comment-id=000c0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-07T17:37:02.594+0000) > > You're over thinking it, which is surprisingly common in these type of threads. I could point every detail about Malphite (and feel offended) because he doesn't look like the rock I want him too. > > Bringing up random facts doesn't help that either. Her visual design doesn't contradict her lore. the bio suit, is a living creature that can feast off her anytime given when it's not being fed. And she's had that suit since she was little. Understandable why she look the way she does. > > But I guess overthinkers want her to have a turtle neck armor because they see skin. And in their eye's skin is bad. I mean she doesn't have clothes on under the suit if that helps.......So why are you complaining again? ( Give me a point that isnt insecurity based or over thought about) That bio suit also doesn't want to die, the lore gets contradicted the moment it willingly exposes center mass for no other purpose than fanservice. That's a pretty simple concept to grasp, and here you are spouting on and on about your frustrations and nonsense. Who's overthinking again?
Dolyna (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tialilia,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XdlppA2Y,comment-id=000c00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-07T17:53:21.696+0000) > > Sorry, do you really try to tell that let open a part of your chest, which gives you enemy IN AN ALIEN ENVIROMENT WHERE EVERYTHING TRIES TO KILL YOU the PERFECT way to kill her by leaving the most important and unprotect area open? When she pops on her helmet, her chest is all covered up. Obviously, she's going to be wearing her helmet in the Void.
> [{quoted}](name=Dolyna,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XdlppA2Y,comment-id=000c000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-08T14:39:10.345+0000) > > When she pops on her helmet, her chest is all covered up. Obviously, she's going to be wearing her helmet in the Void. But Runeterra is still a pretty hostile place, especially when you're running around wearing an eldritch abomination. An eldritch abomination that is interested in self preservation, I might add. The fact that the suit exposes her center mass(area where most people would aim ranged weaponry due to ease of hitting and all the important organs in that area, btw) is only counter intitutive to both was Kai and the suit want, which is not dying obviously.
: Why does Mordekaiser have 325 MS then? Huh? HUH?!
> [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=atb9iABv,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-04-04T16:44:55.460+0000) > > Why does Mordekaiser have 325 MS then? > Huh? > > HUH?! Because misery loves company. Why would Morde want to run faster than all his potential friends, that would just make them sad.
: Mordekaiser; How was he in life and what lead him to become the Iron Revenant
Story was a bit rough around the edges at times, and I could smell the Mordred inspiration from a mile away , but I do think this could serve as a good backstory for FutureKaiser. But only if he emerged from the womb wearing a baby sized version of his current helmet. And then he gets a little Nightfall shaped rattle too. Also, having a witch mother who raised him specifically to be an overlord of magic and metal and him crushing his father serves as a decent contrast to Annie, who's also witch mother's absence leads to her tragic incident with her own dad, who had tried his best to raise her as a decent child. Plus, y'know, Noxus's capital being Morde's old stomping grounds and all just makes the little parallels all the more neat!
Onotori (NA)
: At this point, just make a Neon Strike Irelia skin.
> [{quoted}](name=Konotori,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nHy2EfUy,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-26T22:38:00.003+0000) > > Since Riot wants Frostblade to actually be ice-themed while the playerbase wants a pinup girl... just go through with the ice-themed skin and release a Neon Strike skin so you can justify the slutty jumpsuit and the tech-y bits people want. I'd be okay with that if owners of the original Frostblade got Neonblade for free then. I don't like the champion, the skin, etc. but people still payed money for the goofy overdone whole 'sensual spandex' theme with techy bits, they should't have it taken away and not compensated.
MarcoDeff (EUW)
: Armor of the Fifth Age Taric Then Bilgewater Swain (i really like FFX and pirates), Dark star Thresh (concept) and Project Jhin (music, vfx). Honorable mention: Moo Cow Alistar
> [{quoted}](name=MarcoDeff,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PLOouJtm,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-03-26T13:19:50.764+0000) > > Armor of the Fifth Age Taric > > Then Bilgewater Swain (i really like FFX and pirates), Dark star Thresh (concept) and Project Jhin (music, vfx). > Honorable mention: Moo Cow Alistar Oh my god, I'm shamed to admit I forgot Fifth Age Taric when answering the question. I feel so unoutrageous now :'c
: What is your favorite all time skin!
Battlecast Alpha Skarner I like scorpions, I like chainsaws, and I like robots. The skin may have it's flaws, but it was still close to an instant buy for me, and I've never regretted it. _Until the Juggernaut patch that is_{{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Elfezen (NA)
: the picture of dark souls explains it, even if some champions are from different timelines it doesn't mean they cant meet or interact with each other
> [{quoted}](name=Elfezen,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0qMjq32s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-22T10:42:14.786+0000) > > the picture of dark souls explains it, even if some champions are from different timelines it doesn't mean they cant meet or interact with each other That picture of dark souls is both one of the coolest plot points and biggest cop outs in gaming history for me. On one side, yeah, this crap is pretty cool because heros from across time and dimensions are all meeting in this grand convergence of lands to fight for the last sparks of a dying world. It allows for some pretty sick scenarios and neat theories. On the other hand, nothing lore wise has to be explained or even make a semlence of sense because the game developers and lore theorists can just hide behind 'TIME IS CONVOLUTED!' You basically can just say random garbage and bam, you have a valid Dark Souls theory. That's not really what I want for League outside of the gameplay being about a bunch of legends in-universe duking it out like some kind of Runterra fantasy gladiator match(which it literally was before lore-rework).
DeusVult (NA)
: Frostblade Irelia should have a different dance than her other skins
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