: rakan and braum are attractive, not cute. im talking about child-like/animal cute.
> [{quoted}](name=Akali Prime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VAvpyEnX,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-25T17:58:47.806+0000) > > rakan and braum are attractive, not cute. > im talking about child-like/animal cute. Fair enough.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VAvpyEnX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-25T17:49:37.453+0000) > > Ivern / Rakan? Braum is fucking bubbly. Rakan isn't bubbly, he's fucking psycho for his girlfriend, and a total narcissist. Ivern is yes, and so is Braum, but they've kind of eclipsed into jolly and sagacious more so than bubbly. Nunu is bubbly, so is Lulu and Neeko. We really don't have any more boys with that childly bubbliness, and this Yuumi could have been a good way to add that. Also, her voice is a bit generic, so I'm a tiny bit disappointed. It sounds like the actress(es) for Eve/Xayah/Akali/Irelia who simply read a new script. They all sound so similar, and it's not that great when all the characters start suffering from samevoice.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VAvpyEnX,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-04-25T19:04:24.865+0000) > > Rakan isn't bubbly, he's fucking psycho for his girlfriend, and a total narcissist. Ivern is yes, and so is Braum, but they've kind of eclipsed into jolly and sagacious more so than bubbly. > > Nunu is bubbly, so is Lulu and Neeko. We really don't have any more boys with that childly bubbliness, and this Yuumi could have been a good way to add that. > > Also, her voice is a bit generic, so I'm a tiny bit disappointed. It sounds like the actress(es) for Eve/Xayah/Akali/Irelia who simply read a new script. They all sound so similar, and it's not that great when all the characters start suffering from samevoice. Yeah, I can see that. I think I may have a weird perspective on bubbly. As for the Eve, Xayah, Akali, and Irelia, i've only played Xayah much. I can agree with you about her feeling almost flat / ... unemotional?... whatever the word is. I don't feel the ENERGY in her VO a lot.
: why do all the cute bubbly champions have to be girls?
Ivern / Rakan? Braum is fucking bubbly.
: Nerfs/buffs are too predictable.
Why is that sad? This literally makes no sense with the way you've described it. This is so surface level with no real deep analysis on why it's sad... It just sounds like you know what problems a champion has and thus where it should get nerfed which doesn't say a damn thing about the balance team and more about yourself. Would I be correct in assuming that you're a 'glass half empty' kind of person?
: You look only on kda. I see. Not worth my time
wait... i thought LoL ended after the first team to 20 kills and kaboom, nexus goes bye bye!
: Seriously. The only people who were complaining about ARAM bans were people with ARAM accounts.
I think the RNG Is still fucked. I own all champions, and I get those champions insanely frequently. There are some champions that I've gotten in 20-25% of the time (ignoring trades), where some I've seen once in the last 2000 lobbies.
: Nerf on Rakan???
There's a lot of other compensation that's going with not being able to use W and E during his R. It might not be a net nerf that and you can still at least W before then R. The E at least makes his R initiation at least a bit risky.
Nhika (NA)
: Now I know why my junglers.. never gank.
or you're behind, or always shoved into the enemy tower but won't tower dive, or just watch as you gank, and let you get your butt kicked b y their lane opponent so they can get cs. lol
: Please remove Olaf from LoL
Then we should remove anyone who resembles a knight or samurai then. Since they're no better
: Getting champion shards from chests feels so bad...
No, I don't think so. Especially if you don't already own all the champions, getting those shards helps. Champion Capsules are at a 90% pace of old IP gains.
Meltsky (NA)
: Really got chat restricted for this, really Riot.
I mean the word that comes to mind when reading your chat is 'insufferable'. Plus, I don't think you've done the research especially with a control group to say stuff like "Might as well remove chat, cause anything you say nowadays is reportable" with any sort of believable confidence.
Madjack01 (EUW)
: But people liking or disliking other things than me makes me feel insecure. Their enjoyment comes at the cost of my self worth. {{sticker:sg-soraka}} To be honest discussing this is pretty mute. People like to think that other people liking different things comes at the cost of a wider implementation of the stuff they like. OR It's an emotional response that can't be reasoned with to begin with.
> [{quoted}](name=Madjack01,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zMEWfLjP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-16T15:13:42.780+0000) > > It's an emotional response that can't be reasoned with to begin with. I think it's more this and the status quo of "I had feelings, therefore, they are valid and YOUR responsibility." in people recently.
: Why is the relic shield line the only one where you have to fully upgrade it
I think because charges become very hard to get off late game, so you rely more on the passive generation, so it's just encourages you to buy it late game.
: > [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z0yHnm9o,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-15T12:12:01.408+0000) > > Nothing? What about escaping reality? For 10 hours of playing, you didn't think about anything, not a single think, just a game, similar to alcohol(if you want to forget something), reality doesn't exist while you are playing(while you are high). Easy as that. > > Am I weak minded individual, running away from reality? Then I'm going to spend as much time as possible escaping it. Some one with books(I knew guy who locked himself with dozens of books and didn't leave house for months), movies, games, alcohol or whatever. > > Also it's more like love/hate relationship. Like "It used to be so good BACK THEN, I'm sure it will be same, maybe next game". > > Addiction like this is possible, overlooked and dangerous. You see? This is what I'm looking for. You didn't just say "they're addicted"; you gave an explanation like an intelligent person. Also, you seemed to have missed the point of the post; I don't doubt that some people are addicted. They're just doing a shit job of explaining themselves. I thought that would've been clear by, y'know, reading my post.
> [{quoted}](name=Kairoptra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z0yHnm9o,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-15T12:27:40.150+0000) > > You see? This is what I'm looking for. > > You didn't just say "they're addicted"; you gave an explanation like an intelligent person. > > Also, you seemed to have missed the point of the post; I don't doubt that some people are addicted. They're just doing a shit job of explaining themselves. I thought that would've been clear by, y'know, reading my post. I mean... a lot of alcoholics can't explain why they are addicted to alcohol, sex, or drugs... You're treating being addicted to a game as if it is different but it is not. I've known at least 6 people that became alcoholics in their life, but only 1 of them could put words to voice on why. Small sample size for sure, but it's just demonstrating that you won't necessarily know why you do things. It's not a signal of stupidity to be only able to say "I am an addicted". It's definitely a signal that you are ignorant on the complexities of addiction when you say things like "If you really do feel like you're addicted, then explain why". Understanding you have a problem is very different to knowing WHY you have that problem. Then again, demanding better answers from people is not a good strategy. Also, they obviously get something out of it, but they may not know what that is. If you want to understand addiction, talk to a psychologist... not an addict.
Sęraph (NA)
: Never trust Riot
I've rarely ever found the support team to be helpful in any degree.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZkAcyPGp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T20:03:51.606+0000) > > Probably only owns Ziggs considering he doesn't seem to know Teemo still has a kit if they have oracles and can still use shrooms IDK if Teemo was soo good at teamfighting, he would have a decent winrate in summoner's rift lol. What kind of logic is that...
IT's the kind of logic that doesn't say "Well Teemo has 0 kit when they buy oracles". If you're playing Teemo and don't realize how to use shrooms in a teamfight (which can still work with timing on oracles), then you may not know Teemo that well.
AthenaXI (NA)
: Does it even matter? Rather AFK for real then.
I'm always torn because being 'afk' for 4-5 minutes is legit 25% of the game these days... so that is a HUGE detriment. So what is the threshold of AFK for you? Total game time - 1 second? If you DC to troll someone in ranked, but return in 20 minutes in hopes they're still winning so you still get LP. You have to consider that since Riot has no knowledge of how you disconnect. Did you just unplug your computer? Did your internet go down? Did something else happen?
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZkAcyPGp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T20:03:51.606+0000) > > Probably only owns Ziggs considering he doesn't seem to know Teemo still has a kit if they have oracles and can still use shrooms Incredible how stupid you people are. I don't even have ziggs on this account, Im shaco one trick, you can see my history and what champs I play in aram. You will see how ignorant and biased you trash people are.
Yes, nothing biased, or ignorant about what you just said. Pots do hate kettles.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
Kalikain (NA)
: https://lolalytics.com/aram/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/ So he went from the unhealthy win rate of 69% to 59%. He's still so broken on aram that getting him gives you a slight edge based on just his abilities, not even the player. You can look at all the top champs on that sight and you'll see the reason WHY they nerfed them. You're wrong here, and just another example of someone who only abused easy champs on aram. Gg rito!
> [{quoted}](name=Kalikain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZkAcyPGp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-12T19:56:09.470+0000) > > https://lolalytics.com/aram/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/ > So he went from the unhealthy win rate of 69% to 59%. He's still so broken on aram that getting him gives you a slight edge based on just his abilities, not even the player. > You can look at all the top champs on that sight and you'll see the reason WHY they nerfed them. > > You're wrong here, and just another example of someone who only abused easy champs on aram. > > Gg rito! Probably only owns Ziggs considering he doesn't seem to know Teemo still has a kit if they have oracles and can still use shrooms
: Too easy to abuse the report system? Can't talk back to toxic players without ramifications?
> [{quoted}](name=Butch Lissbian,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vpzPJ2yG,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-12T18:42:19.315+0000) > > 4. Is it true that getting banned is much easier nowadays b/c of Riot's smart business ploy (to make players create new accounts and buy more Skin/RP)? This one has me interested because people always say it totally ignoring people's reaction. Idk who gets an account perma banned, then is like "I am going to spend ALL THE MONEY!"
: Its not a dash. He can move through the wall somw time because of the invulnerability
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4FXvAir2,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T15:47:33.604+0000) > > Its not a dash. He can move through the wall somw time because of the invulnerability Right, so I guess my question is are you being pedantic about the word 'dash' or do you not see it as a mobility spell? Because this is how wikia describes his E "DOUBLE CAST: Fizz dismounts his trident without pausing, allowing him to perform both dashes in a quick succession. " and "Both dashes may be directed separately." It really seems like it's a dash because he does a movement with a spell, and a well respected wikia site claims it is one.
: Troll pole?
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4FXvAir2,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T14:58:19.014+0000) > > Troll pole? Fizz E can be a dash.
Karrnayg3 (OCE)
: I think i have a tumor from playing league
I recommend something less stressful for you in gaming then. It's a game. It's not worth your health.
: Why is riot putting unranked players in high silver games?
I don't think that's an 'unranked' thing. I see normal silvers do that a ton.
: Idk it doesn't LOOK like you were doing anything wrong, but the flamer may have reported you and kicked the auto-system into gear. That is most likely the case.
> [{quoted}](name=Rowanstar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAbUYNsb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-11T21:58:02.583+0000) > > Idk it doesn't LOOK like you were doing anything wrong, but the flamer may have reported you and kicked the auto-system into gear. That is most likely the case. I'm confused by this. I thought a report where you weren't toxic wouldn't result in any action.
CLG ear (NA)
: What is the worst mechanic in this game?
Knockups personally because it seems they added so much non knockup CC they added tenacity, then in an almost CT mentality, invented knockups to make kits feel 'good' because your CC wasn't going to be reduced, or at least ramped up the amount of knockups after adding tenacity
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=RPj9kwca,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-11T16:30:36.785+0000)To be fair, I see the upset with the OP. Nagger is a genuine word that exists in the dictionary, and it's being removed for being too close to something else. Not in every context, no. In the case of the sentence "Why be such a nagger, do you really have to be against everybody who complains about trolls?" it becomes questionable, especially as there was no real nagging on the part of the person being quoted, *and* the OP has previously attempted to get around the censor in other creative ways. > His example of kiss shouldn't be considered a misspelling of kys... at least in my opinion. However, as the moderators of the boards, you are free to be as Orwellian as you want I guess. It wouldn't be, unless you said something like "You should just go kiss." in which case we might consider removing it, as that looks a *lot* more like using it as a proxy for "kys".
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=RPj9kwca,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T16:39:02.366+0000) > > Not in every context, no. In the case of the sentence "Why be such a nagger, do you really have to be against everybody who complains about trolls?" it becomes questionable, especially as there was no real nagging on the part of the person being quoted, *and* the OP has previously attempted to get around the censor in other creative ways. > > It wouldn't be, unless you said something like "You should just go kiss." in which case we might consider removing it, as that looks a *lot* more like using it as a proxy for "kys". Personally, I just disagree with notions of people controlling a platform by injecting the meaning into a statement for themselves on their platform and moderating based on that notion itself under the assumption that 'hey look, they clearly meant this hate speech.' While yes, they might have wanted to say something else, but they didn't. Words also have meaning and it's a bad procedure to treat words like other words imo without it being a huge movement vs a one of instance. It just ends up being a biased, untenable, and completely unpredictable solution that's entirely up to being abused by the moderators which then makes it boil down to the level of trust in the moderators. Especially when dealing with this situation where the poster is from EUW, and the word you're considering hate speech isn't as well known outside of the US. They know it, but the precise context and stigma in the word is not understood. I'm 100% sure there are completely inappropriate words that NA people can 'get away with' saying because neither we nor the moderators understand the word. However, nonetheless, this board reaches EUW at the very least where they do know those contexts. Just my two cents, but these boards are Riot Games environment and theirs to moderate. Also, the least of my worries about this particular company and game anyway. It's also a common mentality from Silicon valley and most other platforms anyway. That makes it less surprising and more expected.
: When we see common misspellings of hate speech used in contexts where there's some question about whether or not the word is intended as a proxy for another word, we err on the side of caution. I'll point out that there was no punishment associated with this removal. So while "We were playing Counterstrike and I fragged him" would not be subject to removal, "stop being a frag" probably would. In this case there was sufficient uncertainty about your use of the word "nagger" that we opted to remove.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=RPj9kwca,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-11T16:23:18.471+0000) > > When we see common misspellings of hate speech used in contexts where there's some question about whether or not the word is intended as a proxy for another word, we err on the side of caution. I'll point out that there was no punishment associated with this removal. > > So while "We were playing Counterstrike and I fragged him" would not be subject to removal, "stop being a frag" probably would. In this case there was sufficient uncertainty about your use of the word "nagger" that we opted to remove. To be fair, I see the upset with the OP. Nagger is a genuine word that exists in the dictionary, and it's being removed for being too close to something else. The line of 'close to misspelling of hate speech' seems almost made up as it is not a mispelling... especially if in the context (which is not present here) it could be clear that it is someone who is nagging. His example of kiss shouldn't be considered a misspelling of kys... at least in my opinion. However, as the moderators of the boards, you are free to be as Orwellian as you want I guess. EDIT: Then again it could be obvious he was just trying to get 'away with' saying a racial slur with a close word.
: What does it mean when Junglers are "waiting for their spike" to gank,
Well soem champs have level power spikes (typically 6), but if you have lost so hard by they are 6 that the enemy can 2v1 you, it's a waste of time to put your energy in your losing lanes. Ganking is best on getting your equal or already ahead lanes snowballing fast. Ganking losing lanes is rarely the best play.
: You wanna know why you're hardstuck silver and gold ?
Not everyone has the same mind for this game that you do. I'd probably find some things mind numbingly easy that you'd find stupidly hard, and visa versa. What is the point of this post even? It's just sub par quality of a 'climbing tips' that you can get on youtube super easily.
Rioter Comments
zPOOPz (NA)
: I don't see anything that looks like intentionally feeding your second game... Why would it not be allowed? You are of the same mmr. It's called solo/duo queue, not solo exclusive queue. They abuse duo queue how?
> [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8rWIaUVc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-10T11:35:39.355+0000) > > I don't see anything that looks like intentionally feeding your second game... > > Why would it not be allowed? You are of the same mmr. It's called solo/duo queue, not solo exclusive queue. They abuse duo queue how? Because it's an easier argument to make than anything that is more whole encompassing.
Napoleon3 (EUNE)
: i will miss the trollers who were inting in my games and by 6 tears for sure i will miss that so much.
> [{quoted}](name=Napoleon3,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K2EzjiqP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-08T18:04:02.532+0000) > > i will miss the trollers who were inting in my games and by 6 tears for sure i will miss that so much. lol yaeh and now if you report them, the system won't be able to see and think "6 tears? ok that is trolling, so here's ban" ... lol not sur eif that was a clear indicator for the system that it's trolling
: i know that my solution isnt perfect , but i dont think that alot of people would be willing to screw their team over , for a good/op build .. that teammate will lose lane which will comeback to bite him in ass , and ends up losing the game anway as result . i think having a slight chance of this happening is better than than leaving it free for all where any laner can buy it and abuses it every game , making the game very unhealthy there is also another solution i've thought of which is making these gold income items available only for support champions (similar way to viktor's hexcore item) , but this makes problem for people who might play off meta supports like velkoz or fiddle and so on .. so idk :/
> [{quoted}](name=Leona is SO HOT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q0Y2BkPw,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-08T17:10:14.262+0000) > > i know that my solution isnt perfect , but i dont think that alot of people would be willing to screw their team over , for a good/op build .. that teammate will lose lane which will comeback to bite him in ass , and ends up losing the game anway as result . > > i think having a slight chance of this happening is better than than leaving it free for all where any laner can buy it and abuses it every game , making the game very unhealthy > > there is also another solution i've thought of which is making these gold income items available only for support champions (similar way to viktor's hexcore item) , but this makes problem for people who might play off meta supports like velkoz or fiddle and so on .. so idk :/ Yeah, I'm with ya. I'm just trying to further the thoughts to hopefully cover holes and such. It's tough to build kits designed for low income, still feel satisfying to buy and use, and make it so it's not so OP that laners want it.
: yeah , which is why i suggested that support items cant be bought unless you have a gold income item , and that there could be only one gold income item per team hopefully this will prevent people from abusing it
> [{quoted}](name=Leona is SO HOT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q0Y2BkPw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T16:30:28.437+0000) > > yeah , which is why i suggested that support items cant be bought unless you have a gold income item , and that there could be only one gold income item per team > hopefully this will prevent people from abusing it What happens when the laners buy it first? Laners could almost exclusively buy it first. Though with their recent changes that's less likely since solo laners don't benefit from the gold income items first anymore. However, your lane partner still might screw you out of it in a meta where the adc takes a support item again (ADC Sona for instance)
Rioter Comments
: His fk up was he talked. Otherwise itd just been a "bad game"
> [{quoted}](name=AnotherFeeder,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O2AlxEai,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-04-08T06:07:58.373+0000) > > His fk up was he talked. Otherwise itd just been a "bad game" My guess is it was not a ban for int feeding.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UxpiNw87,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-04-06T00:47:01.571+0000) > > At that ever so effective 20% effectiveness! lol For ranged Champions, my dude. I use it on melees, they get 100% on everything.
> [{quoted}](name=Laufplanke,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UxpiNw87,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-06T00:48:04.090+0000) > > For ranged Champions, my dude. > I use it on melees, they get 100% on everything. True, i thought it was 20% for everyone lol
: Yes, because you can proc Conquerer on Minions!
> [{quoted}](name=Laufplanke,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UxpiNw87,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-06T00:36:57.543+0000) > > Yes, because you can proc Conquerer on Minions! At that ever so effective 20% effectiveness! lol
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bTMovRlL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-04T19:40:01.260+0000) > > Wait... Urgot is a juggernaut? I guess they really let go of the 'Juggernauts are defined by a lack of mobility' because Aatrox (with mobility) is a juggernaut too lol While I'm hesitant to call Urgot a Juggernaut for a variety of reasons, mobility is not on that list AT ALL. I don't count a 2 foot dash with a delay as mobility, and given that nothing else in his kit modifies his move speed, I'd like to know how you qualify him as mobile? It's no different than Darius' hook - both abilities are just ways to close a gap.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bTMovRlL,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-04T21:03:04.499+0000) > > While I'm hesitant to call Urgot a Juggernaut for a variety of reasons, mobility is not on that list AT ALL. I don't count a 2 foot dash with a delay as mobility, and given that nothing else in his kit modifies his move speed, I'd like to know how you qualify him as mobile? It's no different than Darius' hook - both abilities are just ways to close a gap. I classify mobility as an ability that is a dash or blink. Darius hook isn't really a gap closer. If you miss his hook, they're no closer to you, if you 'miss' your Urgot E, you're still closer. Darius also can't use it to flee. Sure he's not hyper mobile like Riven, but it's still mobility.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bTMovRlL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-04T19:40:01.260+0000) > > Wait... Urgot is a juggernaut? I guess they really let go of the 'Juggernauts are defined by a lack of mobility' because Aatrox (with mobility) is a juggernaut too lol The mobility that the two of them have are limited to the dashes that they have on their respective E's, in replacement for the other forms of mobility or CC that others have, such as the MS boosts that ones like Garen, Udyr, Mundo, Shyvana and so on have, or the Pull that Darius has, or the targeted Slow that Nasus has, and so on. For {{champion:266}} his Dash is shorter and has a shorter cool-down, and thanks to those changes it is limited to one in comparison to when the VGU first launched, although he can pass through small walls with it. As for {{champion:6}} his dash goes farther, but cannot pass over terrain, and also has the added effect that if he collides with an enemy champ he tosses them around just behind him. His dash, also thanks to recent changes grants a shield. So while they have certain "mobility" aspects other Juggernauts do not have, these forms that they DO have are still rather limited.
> [{quoted}](name=EbonyBladeJ88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bTMovRlL,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-04-04T23:02:38.391+0000) > > The mobility that the two of them have are limited to the dashes that they have on their respective E's, in replacement for the other forms of mobility or CC that others have, such as the MS boosts that ones like Garen, Udyr, Mundo, Shyvana and so on have, or the Pull that Darius has, or the targeted Slow that Nasus has, and so on. > > For {{champion:266}} his Dash is shorter and has a shorter cool-down, and thanks to those changes it is limited to one in comparison to when the VGU first launched, although he can pass through small walls with it. > > As for {{champion:6}} his dash goes farther, but cannot pass over terrain, and also has the added effect that if he collides with an enemy champ he tosses them around just behind him. His dash, also thanks to recent changes grants a shield. > > So while they have certain "mobility" aspects other Juggernauts do not have, these forms that they DO have are still rather limited. I mean that's still mobility. Yasuo's mobility is limited. Lucian and Vayne can't dash over walls. I'm also not sure that either of those are lacking any strong CC that other Juggernaut's have.
Moody P (NA)
: Friendly reminder most juggernauts are bad
Wait... Urgot is a juggernaut? I guess they really let go of the 'Juggernauts are defined by a lack of mobility' because Aatrox (with mobility) is a juggernaut too lol
905 (EUNE)
: Man don't play ARAM if you cant comprehend the idea ALL RANDOM. I don't care that you don't like playing vs Veigar, this game mode is not about making your wishes come true, its about playing ALL RANDOM, ALL MID. I don't like playing mid, should Riot add and extra jungle in ARAM just so I can play in the jungle as I like. I also don't like to get a random champ, I like to play with my main, should Riot add to ARAM champion picks, because people get frustrated when they have to play Leona instead of their favorite champ.... Just use your brain, that's what ARAM is, if you don't like it, don't play it. It's so fucking simple. Play some Draft picks if you don't like playing vs Veigar or if you don't like to play mid or if you want to play with your main. ARAM wasn't designed for that.
> [{quoted}](name=905,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gjge86VA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-04T17:23:48.530+0000) > > Man don't play ARAM if you cant comprehend the idea ALL RANDOM. I don't care that you don't like playing vs Veigar, this game mode is not about making your wishes come true, its about playing ALL RANDOM, ALL MID. > > I don't like playing mid, should Riot add and extra jungle in ARAM just so I can play in the jungle as I like. I also don't like to get a random champ, I like to play with my main, should Riot add to ARAM champion picks, because people get frustrated when they have to play Leona instead of their favorite champ.... > > Just use your brain, that's what ARAM is, if you don't like it, don't play it. It's so fucking simple. Play some Draft picks if you don't like playing vs Veigar or if you don't like to play mid or if you want to play with your main. ARAM wasn't designed for that. Is ad hominem all you have for an argument? This addresses nothing that I said.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kalikain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gjge86VA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-04T16:40:52.012+0000) > > "To begin, why I believe the bans are so bad. Aram is a gamemode about experimentation, goofing off, and excessive cc." > No aram is about playing a short game. > The bans have made aram healthier because one team at this point will never be all 5 mages/long range pokers > Now its at most 2, which is a healthier team comp, because rift team comps are 2 pokers/3 front liners or 2 pokers/2 front liners and an assassin > > To back up my point about how 5 mages/long range pokers makes the game mode toxic is because theres no way to counter it. You get ziggs, you win the game without having to leave tower range. > Only one side of bushes, no jungles, no side lanes, no adt objs. Aram was won solely based on # of mages. > > You're wrong. Simply put, I think riot did an outstanding job with the ban phase and nerfing mage champions ontop of it. > > Or are you one of those mage only players being forced into uncomfortable champs? I mean, I play everyone. Quite literally. I play every single champion at least occasionally, and own every one of them. Mages are my most hit-or-miss class actually, with me loving some and hating others (for instance, I can't manage Annie to save my life). My favorite classes are ADCs and fighters (like Sylas, Yorick, and even kayn). Don't try to attack someone's character with a slight, that's one of the weakest tools in the book. If you feel that ARAM is ONLY appealing because of game length to the average ARAM-goer, you haven't really seen all the games I have. I play nearly exclusively ARAM. I've seen games that go for nearly an hour and everyone is joking around and dancing together because we can't actually kill each other in a way that allows us to push. Sure you get that in SR some as well, but you also get toxic tryhards way more often on the rift. Nine out of ten people I have met THROUGH Aram prefer it for the casual atmosphere, not game length. Also, you have a point that mages can be a bit much when they stack up. But MR does exist, you know. I just last week had a game with a Ziggs, Xerath, and three other mages on the enemy team. We won, for obvious reasons. Now, I'm not assuming this about you, just asking- But you seem to really dislike mages specifically. Why is that? They aren't really as oppressive as you're letting on, not even in ARAM. In fact, a team of mages makes the game way easier overall, since they rarely have disengage tools when you break past their poke.
> [{quoted}](name=Boris Mikhail,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gjge86VA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-04T16:54:40.669+0000) > > In fact, a team of mages makes the game way easier overall, since they rarely have disengage tools when you break past their poke. Very few mages have no disengage potential.
: ARAM Bans are toxic for the gamemode.
ARAM as a game mode is broken by the fact that it is rewarding to have an ARAM only account. People are more frustrated that they're wrecked by Veigar EVERY MATCH than Veigar every once in a while. For a 'random' mode, the matches that I play are so boringly uniform in their makeup. Having bans helps that a lot.
: > [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9bGuVkEV,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-04-03T10:12:59.039+0000) > > Post chat logs then. :) Wish i could but riot undid my perma ban
> [{quoted}](name=Soc1al Anxiety,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9bGuVkEV,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-03T10:15:19.774+0000) > > Wish i could but riot undid my perma ban They tend to email you that stuff as well as far as I know, also 'undid your perma'? Something is suspicious here. They tend not to do that.
: Banned For Abusive Chat
Considering everything that I see about people's chat logs when they get banned... I'd rather have the person who doesn't respond to pings.
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