nibzaH (NA)
: League playerbase in a nutshell. "FUCK THIS GUY HE'S SUCH AN ASSHOLE HOLY SHIT BAN HIM" okay we banned him "WOW YOU'RE ONLY BANNING HIM THAT'S FUCKED RIOT YOU'RE TERRIBAD" You guys can't be pleased. Tyler was toxic. He intentionally fed, trolled, cursed out teammates, and no, he didn't 'maturely' avoid drama, he ranted on stream about any problems he had with other players. He was genuinely a bad person.
> [{quoted}](name=A Faker,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8a75KeUR,comment-id=0a1f,timestamp=2016-07-26T21:44:01.458+0000) > > League playerbase in a nutshell. > > "FUCK THIS GUY HE'S SUCH AN ASSHOLE HOLY SHIT BAN HIM" > > okay we banned him > > "WOW YOU'RE ONLY BANNING HIM THAT'S FUCKED RIOT YOU'RE TERRIBAD" > > You guys can't be pleased. Tyler was toxic. He intentionally fed, trolled, cursed out teammates, and no, he didn't 'maturely' avoid drama, he ranted on stream about any problems he had with other players. He was genuinely a bad person. Wow dude, it's almost like the people who like and hate him are different people !!! :OOOOOOOO
: Mid Year Mage Updates - Low-Scope Mage Directions
Are you going to change anivia's auto attack animation? It's one of the clunkiest in the game. Besides that, I don't see that much that needs changing, I don't think anivia feels old and I'm curious what makes you guys feel that way, nor do I think old means bad. I think for the simplicity of anivia's kit there's a ton you can do with it, champions don't need to be super complex and loaded like a lot of the new ones have been. She feels crisp to play for me, but im a little biased because I main her. also pls dont change her e or the way it works with her ult. :[
: You pick two roles. If you're not happy playing two roles, then your inflexible. You're not forced to play any role in particular, you can pick whichever two you want. If you want to not play support for a few games, you can just choose two other specific roles and not select Support or Fill. ---------- If you *REALLY* want a specific lane, Mid and ADC are the most-often and abundant roles, put them as your secondary and you will get them the least often. If you REALLY don't want Mid or ADC, pick your second favorite role and quit complaining.
> [{quoted}](name=Old Man Teeto,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vFXMLExQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-01T03:42:39.117+0000) > > You pick two roles. > > If you're not happy playing two roles, then your inflexible. > > You're not forced to play any role in particular, you can pick whichever two you want. > > If you want to not play support for a few games, you can just choose two other specific roles and not select Support or Fill. > > ---------- > > If you *REALLY* want a specific lane, Mid and ADC are the most-often and abundant roles, put them as your secondary and you will get them the least often. If you REALLY don't want Mid or ADC, pick your second favorite role and quit complaining. I'm not complaining in the slightest. I'm arguing AGAINST being able to pick one role, so I don't really understand why you wrote this.
Rioter Comments
: wall isn't hard to use positioning isn't a unique skill requirement to her, mana is a problem for most mages early game, farming becomes easy as pressing R at level 6. granted, her AA blows ass, but so does {{champion:50}} and nobody's saying he's a difficult champion to play. If anything, that's the only hard part about them.
> [{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oohV28oQ,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-30T05:37:16.204+0000) > > wall isn't hard to use > > positioning isn't a unique skill requirement to her, mana is a problem for most mages early game, farming becomes easy as pressing R at level 6. granted, her AA blows ass, but so does {{champion:50}} and nobody's saying he's a difficult champion to play. If anything, that's the only hard part about them. it's hard to use well. if you don't know how to use it to combo or split a teamfight then you're not a good anivia. it's super easy to misplace and fuck up your own team or just waste a cooldown you're right, positioning is not unique to her, but it is much harder on her because she has low mobility and no escapes, and she also needs to be in the right angle for a good wall. she has very low base health (worst at level one, second worst at level 18), and while yes she has the egg it is not a good tradeoff in some stages of the game, in early game it is super weak and in late game everyone has the damage to shred it. mana problems are also not unique to her, but she has it far worse than most mages, and for this reason you cannot just press r at level 6 to farm because you will run out of mana in 2 waves. her ult only becomes a consistent farming tool when you get your mana items, and if you only get one it remains difficult to manage throughout the entire game swain is considered easier because he does not have quite as many problems as anivia. he has mana regen built into his passive and his root is his only ability you have to aim. you have to manage mana for his ult but it is easier than managing mana for anivia
: Anivia is easy as piss to play. What is this delusion that pressing ER to obliterate any squishy target requires any thought whatsoever? Her one semi-difficult to land skillshot doesn't make the rest of her brainless kit high skill floor.
> [{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oohV28oQ,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-03-29T22:00:40.017+0000) > > Anivia is easy as piss to play. What is this delusion that pressing ER to obliterate any squishy target requires any thought whatsoever? > > Her one semi-difficult to land skillshot doesn't make the rest of her brainless kit high skill floor. Her ER is easy but pretty much everything else is hard, not just the q. Mana, farming, her wall, positioning, etc. That's why she is considered high skill floor.
: A fresh start for the balance team
riot balancing around the lcs is most of the reason why we are in this balancing fuckfest lcs meta does not always transition to solo queue, take azir for example. they had to butcher him to the ground before he stopped being played in lcs, and now he's super garbage imo balance should be for the millions of people who play the game, not a tiny amount of pros
Rioter Comments
kbaby (NA)
: advice for a silver gold bound
If you want to roam, shove the wave to their tower first, as this makes it hard for them to follow and you won't lose as much cs. However, I wouldn't recommend much roaming on anivia unless you have a super clear opportunity, because you're super slow. It's usually more beneficial to work on applying pressure mid and taking down the turret. You can take tp to gank your side lanes, this way you don't have to walk slowly through river, but I prefer ignite.
: Getting really sick of AD Assassins having a clear advantage over AP Mages
For a variety of reasons, especially hexdrinker being overpowered, AD mids are pretty strong right now, but there are ways to play around them and you're clearly not playing matchups right if you're getting destroyed super bad. And no, most assassin's don't really scale. Yasuo does, but he isn't really an assassin and he's actually probably the weakest ad mid right now.
: mmr vs lp. why not have lp reflect what your mmr is?
you haven't faced anyone past silver in any of your last 20 ranked matches, and if you did have gold/plat mmr you would be gaining a ton of lp in wins and losing a lot less in losses
: Does anybody actually play Blucian?
imaqtpie played it once and won, it is on his youtube i think
: I've had it with all these overloaded Tanks
{{champion:96}} ????????????????
Yenn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HoboMcJoe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RvsERZEH,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:47:26.873+0000) > > big difference between triple ap and no ap. one sucks, the other doesn't Except no, 2/3 games at Diamond+ are triple AD compositions. You can't itemize against AD as easily as you can AP.
> [{quoted}](name=Yenn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RvsERZEH,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:51:02.501+0000) > > Except no, 2/3 games at Diamond+ are triple AD compositions. You can't itemize against AD as easily as you can AP. the second part of what you said is true, but that doesn't make the first part true. 3 AD is better than 3 AP, but it's still not good and it's def not 2/3 diamond games. you pick rammus or taric into that shit and freelo baby
: OK RIOT I'M FED UP EXPLAIN TO ME NOW.........
have you ever thought that maybe you're just bad at ashe
Yenn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Quepha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RvsERZEH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:40:25.601+0000) > > oh no party composition matters in a team game. Where the best composition doesn't involve any AP.
> [{quoted}](name=Yenn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RvsERZEH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:41:29.993+0000) > > Where the best composition doesn't involve any AP. big difference between triple ap and no ap. one sucks, the other doesn't
: Remove Guinsoo's Rageblade
if you're 5-0 and you get killed just because the other laner has guinsoos you fucked up, the item is pretty strong but not even close to that strong
: Please update Anivia's abilities icons ;_;
http://img1.leaguecraft.com/skins/asset/skin_1442683417_760px_66043_1.jpg something like this would be great.
: Is Anivia's Q hitbox awkward?
The hitbox is bigger than the actual projectile.
: Ooo that's gotta be a nasty lane. Is his zone denial an issue, or do you just outrange him?
> [{quoted}](name=BetweenSkill,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ce24iKB2,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-03-02T03:00:54.026+0000) > > Ooo that's gotta be a nasty lane. Is his zone denial an issue, or do you just outrange him? nothing is an issue in this matchup its freelo. your ult can pretty much kill all his turrets at once and before that its just farm
: Thanks for the reply I really appreciate it. - I've since improved to 20/4 with her this week (if lolking is accurate). I always do start catalyst because, as far as I can remember I have back pre 1200 gold, and always start catalyst after Dorans. I know she is a later game champ, and obviously provides a ton to every part of the game. I'm assuming people only claim she falls off, because like you said - it's unlikely you get a 1 shot combo off on someone later. I always build RoA + Archangles + Sorc boots first 3 items. Sometimes the order in which I start tear generally depends on how the game is going, but I try to get it stacking ASAP. I often wait until 8 to put a point in my wall, I'll have to try 4 a few times. I see the point you're bringing up. Have yet to build a morello, I just haven't entirely felt the need for the CD-R To be honest. Generally speaking (I know often situational) - what is your 3rd/4th items on her...? Thanks again for the reply.
> [{quoted}](name=Alex Sloan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fmywZVem,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-03-01T08:09:00.105+0000) > > Thanks for the reply I really appreciate it. - I've since improved to 20/4 with her this week (if lolking is accurate). I always do start catalyst because, as far as I can remember I have back pre 1200 gold, and always start catalyst after Dorans. > > I know she is a later game champ, and obviously provides a ton to every part of the game. I'm assuming people only claim she falls off, because like you said - it's unlikely you get a 1 shot combo off on someone later. > > I always build RoA + Archangles + Sorc boots first 3 items. Sometimes the order in which I start tear generally depends on how the game is going, but I try to get it stacking ASAP. > > I often wait until 8 to put a point in my wall, I'll have to try 4 a few times. I see the point you're bringing up. > Have yet to build a morello, I just haven't entirely felt the need for the CD-R To be honest. > Generally speaking (I know often situational) - what is your 3rd/4th items on her...? Thanks again for the reply. Liandries is standard third, rabadon's if fed, and void staff if they have a lot of mr. Whichever of these items you don't buy third, the rest will generally round out your build. Most other items are situational.
: What is your favorite champion to play against? And why?
: Anivia opinions?
She doesn't fall off and is considered a late game champ but she can't 1 shot late game so you have to use the wall well. She is viable in all elos. ROA+Archangels is the best build on her ever since the ROA buffs since archangels synergises with it so well. If you really want the CDR you can take a morello third, but if you take CDR runes you should be fine. This will depend. If you can't afford the catalyst on your first back but you have enough for the tear I'd just take the tear unless you're being pressured hard, in which case you might need the ruby crystal. Likewise, if you can afford either one, pick tear if you're not being pressured (other laner has no kill threat), and take catalyst if you are under kill pressure or need sustain. Taking catalyst before tear will delay your stacking, but this is okay as long as you always finish ROA before archangels. The two common times are level 4 and level 8. I prefer level 4, because taking it level 8 is just extremely greedy. You're unlikely to kill the other laner because of the extra point in q and having the wall early just does so much for you. It can help you avoid a gank , save a teammate, and I'd argue it's even better for fighting in the lane because you can wall to land your q or push the other laner back into your ult. Always start doran's or the dark seal (if you have kill pressure or don't think you'll need the mana sustain). Don't start crystal.
: > [{quoted}](name=HoboMcJoe,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=AdJOwObe,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-02-27T04:22:24.141+0000) > > "dodged anivia's wall" > > ????????????? he means that anivia would've probably enclosed/forced him into her Q and he "dodged" it by sidestepping or something
> [{quoted}](name=BoggyBuntu,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=AdJOwObe,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-02-27T04:59:15.680+0000) > > he means that anivia would've probably enclosed/forced him into her Q and he "dodged" it by sidestepping or something oh ok btw as a dirty anivia main ur thread is triggering me if i have a seizure ur paying my medical bills k fam?
PusyCar (EUNE)
: i remember that one time where i dodged anivia's Q and wall, hit her with my skillshots and just as i killed her she swiftly mashed her E+R buttons to 100-0 me with 1/3 my ap while she revived because of her passive
> [{quoted}](name=PusyCar,realm=EUNE,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=AdJOwObe,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-26T09:45:02.985+0000) > > i remember that one time where i dodged anivia's Q and wall, hit her with my skillshots and just as i killed her she swiftly mashed her E+R buttons to 100-0 me with 1/3 my ap while she revived because of her passive "dodged anivia's wall" ?????????????
: An interesting idea for Anivia
no frosty you're drunk :> imo this would make her wall way more complicated and it would be a huge buff to those who adapt, which would probably her nerfed fucking over those who don't
: Not without a nerf somewhere. Anivia is easily one of the most underrated champions in the game. She does less damage than Xerath because Xerath doesn't have a wall and 936 health at level one. Champions that are immune to slows counter her, that's the way it's supposed to be. She isn't supposed to be moderately strong against everyone. She needs weaknesses, and being immobile isn't always enough when you have a wall and multiple CC abilities with an undying ult. To sum it up, if you pick Anivia into Yi or Olaf, you should expect to have a bad time. If someone picks Yi or Olaf into your Anivia, you took the risk and lost the coin toss. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to show her so early. We don't need anymore ultra safe mages getting babied. Every champion needs trade offs, and what seems like quality of life to you could be damaging to the game over all.
> [{quoted}](name=KhaZix Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AdPQhBZ7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-24T14:52:28.987+0000) > > Not without a nerf somewhere. Anivia is easily one of the most underrated champions in the game. She does less damage than Xerath because Xerath doesn't have a wall and 936 health at level one. Champions that are immune to slows counter her, that's the way it's supposed to be. She isn't supposed to be moderately strong against everyone. She needs weaknesses, and being immobile isn't always enough when you have a wall and multiple CC abilities with an undying ult. > > To sum it up, if you pick Anivia into Yi or Olaf, you should expect to have a bad time. If someone picks Yi or Olaf into your Anivia, you took the risk and lost the coin toss. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to show her so early. We don't need anymore ultra safe mages getting babied. Every champion needs trade offs, and what seems like quality of life to you could be damaging to the game over all. While I agree she doesn't need this change, the thing about anivia's egg is that unless you're under tower, the other laner is out of mana, or your team is coming, it's practically useless. Counting her egg, she may technically have huge health amounts throughout the laning phase, but if that egg is popped most of the time she will die.
: Can we stop nerfing for the sake of nerfing?
Udyr has not been a problem for a long time, but he is now. And nerfing the item clearly does hurt him. It is by far the best jungle item on udyr and the others will only be viable when it is nerfed.
bill84 (NA)
: Galio is not that weak right now. He has a huge aoe taunt that does massive dmg as well as a large amount of poke, decent mobility, and very high sustain. The only thing thats bad for him now is that it's not an ap meta.
> [{quoted}](name=bill84,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xOAuajvZ,comment-id=001f0000,timestamp=2016-02-16T00:53:08.164+0000) > > Galio is not that weak right now. He has a huge aoe taunt that does massive dmg as well as a large amount of poke, decent mobility, and very high sustain. The only thing thats bad for him now is that it's not an ap meta. Depends on the elo really. In low elo he can be extremely strong because nobody knows what he does and what you listed, but in high elo the small size and travel speed of his q makes him very easy to punish in lane. Definitely not the worst champion in the game though. Probably ryze after this new nerf is the worst.
Rioter Comments
nerthy (NA)
: does anyone above plat use locked camera? tips to get better?
I'm plat and I play on locked camera mostly but it is probably not optimal. Locked camera isn't going to keep you stuck in bronze though, that's part of a different and larger problem for you.
: Stop autopathing on Anivia walls
This would be a pretty big nerf to anivia as this is one of the main ways to land her q.
lethresh (NA)
: Team Spirit Anivia Chroma Pack
It would be cool but I don't know if they're making chromas anymore and if they did I doubt they'd do it for a legacy skin.
: Riot Please, One favor.
: It's not really a matter of trust, is it? What power do you hold, as an individual? None. And I promise you that you and the other minority that are opposed to change are small and insignificant and ignorant. The marksman changes were almost 100% improvements on the way things were and I think Riot is in a much better, more informed position to comment on game health than you are.
> [{quoted}](name=TarkanosVerkata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cn8t24G7,comment-id=000400000000000000000001000000000003000000020001,timestamp=2016-01-23T02:37:49.365+0000) > > It's not really a matter of trust, is it? What power do you hold, as an individual? None. And I promise you that you and the other minority that are opposed to change are small and insignificant and ignorant. The marksman changes were almost 100% improvements on the way things were and I think Riot is in a much better, more informed position to comment on game health than you are. I don't think change is a bad thing, I just don't think that the right champions are being changed. While I agree riot is the boss on game health, and did a good job with the marksman update, there is still a possibility of a mord/cass like fuckup. Besides, not wanting a champ to be changed doesn't make you ignorant, it's just a different opinion. On a side note, riot has said that the reason galio and swain are not being reworked is because they need full separate reworks. However, I still feel there are better champions to change than a few of the ones they have chosen.
: > [{quoted}](name=HoboMcJoe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cn8t24G7,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2016-01-23T00:55:00.755+0000) > > You seem to just be focusing on reasons why these champions are strong. Although in my opinion none of these champs are overpowered (and some like zyra are just plain weak), even if they were most of the reasons you give are solvable with simple stat nerfs. I'm more wondering why they're slated for reworks. Zyra is actually really strong to point out in your comment about her being weak. She has a overly tuned kit with really high base damage. Great support except vs leona great mid laner all the way around. Very safe pick hard to gank and a big team fight changer with her entire kit. Plants cc dps burst AoE cc need i say more? Anyways i think meddler is right too many of the mages are ether strong or don't provide enough diversity in their current state that other mid laners can do the exact same thing. Some kits are too swingy and others just too boring or confusing. As far as vlad goes he was actually a mistake on release and is the only champion riot has admitted this too. So its no wonder hes slated for this kind of over haul.
> [{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cn8t24G7,comment-id=001300000000,timestamp=2016-01-23T01:00:10.200+0000) > > Zyra is actually really strong to point out in your comment about her being weak. She has a overly tuned kit with really high base damage. Great support except vs leona great mid laner all the way around. Very safe pick hard to gank and a big team fight changer with her entire kit. Plants cc dps burst AoE cc need i say more? Anyways i think meddler is right too many of the mages are ether strong or don't provide enough diversity in their current state that other mid laners can do the exact same thing. Some kits are too swingy and others just too boring or confusing. As far as vlad goes he was actually a mistake on release and is the only champion riot has admitted this too. So its no wonder hes slated for this kind of over haul. I agree that zyra is a fantastic support, but it seems this is going to be a mid lane focused update, and in my opinion (I know you disagree) she's a pretty weak mid lane. She is quite reliant on landing her e and has had trouble against other mid laners ever since those season 3 nerfs. Perhaps I haven't seen her enough but I've never had trouble against her and the few times I've played her it has been difficult even when I didn't think I was making many mistakes. I don't think most of the mages are too strong, and even if they were, you know how much the boards would rage if they were nerfed and the ad mids were left alone. Do you have a link for the vlad thing? I'm surprised by this, as riot still hasn't called mord a mistake and I really don't think vlad is that annoying to play against. If they really think he is a mistake though, I would expect them to want a full rework for him, as this is likely going to be just 1 or 2 abilities changed.
: Vlads kit is toxic as hell. Malz too easy to punish other mid laners same with brand vel has extremely high base damage and true damage cassi too much damage and mana hog zyra too oppressive .
> [{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cn8t24G7,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2016-01-23T00:18:35.880+0000) > > Vlads kit is toxic as hell. Malz too easy to punish other mid laners same with brand vel has extremely high base damage and true damage cassi too much damage and mana hog zyra too oppressive . You seem to just be focusing on reasons why these champions are strong. Although in my opinion none of these champs are overpowered (and some like zyra are just plain weak), even if they were most of the reasons you give are solvable with simple stat nerfs. I'm more wondering why they're slated for reworks.
Meddler (NA)
: Some discussion from last month that covers Vel'Koz's state: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/5dJN5vf7-meddler-velkoz-thoughts TLDR: Healthy, fun to play, distinct to play as, fair to play against, needs to have a more distinct reason to be brought to a team than he currently has .
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cn8t24G7,comment-id=0004000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-01-22T08:11:39.561+0000) > > Some discussion from last month that covers Vel'Koz's state: > > http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/5dJN5vf7-meddler-velkoz-thoughts > > TLDR: Healthy, fun to play, distinct to play as, fair to play against, needs to have a more distinct reason to be brought to a team than he currently has . I really don't think a lack of a niche alone is enough to justify a rework for Vel'Koz. I don't even think not having a niche is a bad thing. If he is fun and unique to play as, which you've already conceded he is, then that right there is the reason he is brought to the team. Him being healthy and balanced is the icing on the cake. Vel'Koz to me is a model of how champion design should be, so why is he being changed when there are many mages who need it more?
  Rioter Comments
: why do u even consider zed a melee champion :( and yasuo is a direct counterpick. if u think about kassadin, talon, khazix, and other melee champion i dont remember, they get rekt by kat badly.
> [{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H3Xd16ds,comment-id=000d0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-17T00:41:11.414+0000) > > why do u even consider zed a melee champion :( > > > and yasuo is a direct counterpick. > > if u think about kassadin, talon, khazix, and other melee champion i dont remember, they get rekt by kat badly. Talon can win, but you're right that at an equal skill level he would probably lose, although it wouldn't be a stomp. I haven't seen enough kha mid to really know who would win, but after his buffs it's very possible that he could win. In what world does katarina counter kassadin? I don't even understand why you would think this. Kassadin counters katarina hard. The other mid you might be thinking of is varus, and yeah katarina would probably win there.
: kat has manaless harass with q... if she face a melee champ she is a nightmare.
> [{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H3Xd16ds,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2016-01-16T17:14:04.663+0000) > > kat has manaless harass with q... if she face a melee champ she is a nightmare. Not really. After the zed buffs, he will usually win that lane. A skilled yasuo will beat a kat because of the windwall. The only ad matchup katarina should win is talon and that still isn't a guranteed one. Maybe she does good against varus mid if that is still a thing, but I haven't played a lot of kat recently.
: I started this game 2 weeks ago, yet for the past 4 days I've had to play against 1-2 year vets.
: I think the idea is that if you don't understand any other role well enough to play it you probably shouldn't be playing ranked anyway, although I do have sympathy for those who want teambuilder back for normals. Honestly, people wanted a different ranked queue system to reduce fighting and to not be forced into their worst role or have a team of 5 guys who main mid (had a game with 4 mid mains on my team a few times, some were okay, others not so much) and the new system lets you pick your two best so you aren't stuck with your worst, seems like a fair trade to me. I do think it would be nice to have teambuilder back for normals since you usually don't care about queue time as much in normals since you won't be grinding out lp or anything like that.
> [{quoted}](name=kunkudunk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=E53lyzT4,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-01-15T05:18:21.730+0000) > > I think the idea is that if you don't understand any other role well enough to play it you probably shouldn't be playing ranked anyway, although I do have sympathy for those who want teambuilder back for normals. Honestly, people wanted a different ranked queue system to reduce fighting and to not be forced into their worst role or have a team of 5 guys who main mid (had a game with 4 mid mains on my team a few times, some were okay, others not so much) and the new system lets you pick your two best so you aren't stuck with your worst, seems like a fair trade to me. I do think it would be nice to have teambuilder back for normals since you usually don't care about queue time as much in normals since you won't be grinding out lp or anything like that. You're never going to be able to stop these people (I guess in a way I'm one of them) from playing ranked, and my point is that this new system only exacerbates the issue. Usually I just go a mid champion in whatever role I'm playing and most of the time it works out fine.
Arød (NA)
: PEOPLE CALM DOWN RIOT ISN'T PERFECT
Isn't that what preseason is for?
: Does Sejuani feel really weak to anyone else?
Just my opinion, people exaggerate how bad she is. She may not be a power meta pick anymore but her ult is still a gamechanger that few other abilities match.
Uiraya (NA)
: Champs like Yi and Katarina who can get roflstomped in lane or counterjungled hard still trip and fall into a triple kill ONCE and suddenly their team is back on top. It's absolutely ridiculous. At no point should a 0/6 Yi be your primary target at all times, but he ALWAYS IS. You either save cc for him or you lose, and that's absurd. And the worst part is that their mains choose to be scrubs. Bullshit champs like these will never work in any real setting; all they're good for is pubstomping. All they're going to do is win via bullshit until their mmr gets high enough that it doesn't work anymore, and then get salty as fuck and ragequit because they don't know how to play anything else. Choosing to be scrubs, instead of getting better and winning via talent. Why?
> [{quoted}](name=Uiraya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H3Xd16ds,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2016-01-15T04:47:14.343+0000) > > Champs like Yi and Katarina who can get roflstomped in lane or counterjungled hard still trip and fall into a triple kill ONCE and suddenly their team is back on top. It's absolutely ridiculous. At no point should a 0/6 Yi be your primary target at all times, but he ALWAYS IS. You either save cc for him or you lose, and that's absurd. > > And the worst part is that their mains choose to be scrubs. Bullshit champs like these will never work in any real setting; all they're good for is pubstomping. All they're going to do is win via bullshit until their mmr gets high enough that it doesn't work anymore, and then get salty as fuck and ragequit because they don't know how to play anything else. Choosing to be scrubs, instead of getting better and winning via talent. Why? If you're blowing everything on an 0-6 yi either he is almost full build or you are doing something wrong. Also, I used to be a kat main. She's very difficult to play in lane, and if she gets stomped most of the time she stays weak except in really low elo. If she trips and falls into a triple kill, you're also doing something wrong. Even if this does happen, it won't be enough for her to suddenly one shot everybody or anything. The reason I'm not a kat main anymore is because I learned hard champs, which you seem convinced easy champ mains can't do.
Kikirino (NA)
: "Why can't I just pick the one role I want?"
You're acting like everybody who doesn't want to play two roles is an entitled asshole. Some people like me are kind of one trick ponies or just don't enjoy other roles. I'm not going to be a bitch if I don't get my role in ranked, but I've always enjoyed team builder for being able to choose fully, even if it meant longer queue times. Now that choice is gone, and the worst part is that when you get forced into your second role and feed, people flame you because they assume you making it your second choice means you are almost as proficient in it as your first role. rito pls team builder
: Team Builder isn't about "Building Teams", It's about providing player choice
I really don't want them to remove team builder. Like you said, it gives choice. Sometimes I really want to play a certain champ and in blind pick there are too many trolls.
: Can you guys please tell me what im doing wrong why cant i win games ;/
It seems like you're just getting unlucky with teams, but you could always improve your own play. I'm an anivia main also, maybe I could give you some pointers.
: If everyone were Cooldown based with no resource constraints, would that be good? Bad? Other?
Bad idea. It makes champs too bland and similar, removes core functions of many items, and makes blue buff useless.
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