Sunset (EUNE)
: Explain the logic
Happens a lot for the top lane. Let's take for example Riven vs Rumble Rivens dies early game giving first blood to the Rumble. Then she quickly comes back in lane with TP in hope of getting back a kill but little did she know that an ennemy shaco was waiting in the bush. Result : Riven died twice in less than 5 minutes, she's titled. Her jungler instead of helping her just ignores the help she needs to get back in the game. Playing ability is reduced by her tilt and it's just a snowball effect. Riven will either ignore her team for the rest of the game and just afk push in form of protest because her team is probably flamming her without knowing what really happened.
: Why does Tristana Q Cost no Mana?
What about Varus and Jinx ?
Rioter Comments
: It's been months that you guys have been complaining about the balance in this game, enough.
LoL forum only represent a very small % of all players opinions. If there are more and more players playing LoL, I don't see where they fail. Because if the game would really suck, growth would eventually fall which isn't the case.
Rioter Comments
: Karma (Low Winrate 46,46% for a long while) - Please give her a small buff!
Did someone say Karma ?! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
: The Heimerdinger nerf is too much..
Ult E is basically what I always do in a teamfight. They nerfed his big turret beam damage, nothing else. Seems pretty decent for me.
: Malphite player
Just ask for a gank...? You're like asking how a Janna support is supposed to kill Maokai with spirit visage. You don't solo kill him, you gank him.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: They made it higher priced prbably because of more AP... But honestly if anything it should be the same price since liandrys passive is op
is it...? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Is this toxic behavior?
That's like saying ''stop feeding'' to someone who died twice in a row. yeah, as IF he did it on purpose. What do you expect him to say ? You are just tilting him more. OKAY SORRY. "_"
: {{sticker:darius-angry}} NEVER
{{sticker:darius-angry}} !
Rioter Comments
: why cant i get out of BRONZE V!?!?!?!?
: Yeah, but it's usually a bad decision. {{item:3020}} {{item:3136}} spikes earlier and harder than Morello's, Celerity gives roaming power and makes it easier to dodge skillshots (as opposed to transcendence which gives you nothing until level 10, and insight...insight is fine, but boots ad stopwatch are stronger at the moment. What's really stupid is how much raw damage mages get from {{item:3020}} {{item:3136}} right now, it's insane against anyone that doesn't have the luxury of building mr.
Sorcerer and HG are fine. They just add magic penetration and a modest 25 ap. It just dominates people with low health and no magic resists Once they get more health and MR, it’s much less interesting
: Not gameplay. Voice Over. After her massive lore overhaul a while ago, her voice hasn't held up the same. They'd like to redo it to bring it in line with her thematic a little more.
I hope they'll keep her Sass in the voice over
: Is Corki an ADC?
Because he does 80% AP dmg and 20% Physical dmg (thx to his passive) Corki IS a marksmen but more suited for mid lane. Also, he has access to his package which means you want to be in mid lane to use it.
: How did Ornn become so uninteresting?
I'm not sure what you are talking about because Ornn always had that % dmg on Max Health which comes from his 2 main dmg abilities Brittle and Bellows Breath (W). Here is all the changes on Ornn since his release. V8.2 Bellows Breath Bellows Breath Removed: Being Unstoppable icon unstoppable during the march. Call of the Forge God Call of the Forge God Cooldown increased to 140 / 120 / 100 seconds from 130 / 100 / 70. V8.1 Bellows Breath Bellows Breath Bug Fix: Brittle proc no longer apply its effect if the attack that would apply it is blocked. V7.24 Bellows Breath Bellows Breath Target's maximum health ratio reduced to 10 / 12 / 14 / 16 / 18% of the target's maximum health from 12 / 14 / 16 / 18 / 20%. Cooldown increased to 13 / 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 seconds from 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8. V7.22 November 12th Hotfix Searing Charge Searing Charge Charge base damage increased to 30 / 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 from 20 / 40 / 60 / 80 / 100. Shockwave base damage increased to 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 from 40 / 80 / 120 / 160 / 200. V7.22 Stats Base attack damage increased to 68 from 59.72. Base armor increased to 33 from 24.04. V7.20 Bellows Breath Bellows Breath Target's health ratio changed to 12 / 14 / 16 / 18 / 20% of target's maximum health from 15 / 17.5 / 20 / 22.5 / 25% of target's current health. Searing Charge Searing Charge Terrain collision range increased to 150 additional range from 100. Call of the Forge God Call of the Forge God Removed: Headbutting the giant ram having a 0.35-second cast time. V7.19 General Recommended items have been adjusted. Stats Base mana increased to 340 from 300. Living Forge & Master Craftsman Living Forge Mini-shop UI now prioritizes health regeneration over attack damage when choosing which items to display. Volcanic Rupture Volcanic Rupture Mana cost reduced to 55 at all ranks from 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75. Searing Charge Searing Charge Mana cost reduced to 50 from 60. *Big points are : His W is no longer unstoppable, deals 2% less dmg and has 1 extra second cooldown (oh no please god no I can't farm anymore) and his ultimate is 30 seconds higher at lvl 16. Gosh he is SO uninteresting to play*
: So sick of Tahm Kench
Tahm Kench is pretty much a Bully in lane whenever you get behind. His tankiness with an annoying slow ability + that swallow ability is a nightmare for any adc. He is also on of the few champions that goes well with boot of swiftness. His natural tankiness doesn't require him to get Tabi or mercury tread.
: Annie Update
:O ! MF is on the remake list ? why :C . I like her the way she is right now
wildfox99 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8fL61bK7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-29T16:29:41.100+0000) > > they should make it available at level 10 like boots trascendence*
I think he meant at 10 minutes and not level
: WHY I HAVE NOT S
Need to know, how many actions per minute you did, also game time. If that score was on a 15 minutes games, then I have no doubt that you should get S+ , but if this game lasted over 40 minutes +++, that's not worth S
: Press R to win.
:thinking: Where's Karthus? but hmmmmmmm...........
Raoul (EUW)
: Wait... so... all Support Items lost their active?
So i'm just gonna copy paste a previous comment that I've made about support items ... ''I think that the real problem was how badly non-support champs could easily abuse the items. Frostfang provides a 20 AP and 10% CDR which is almost the same as Fiendish Codex for cheaper. The active movespeed on hit AND self generating gold was what made this item so appreciated by non supports. As a result, they could snowball easier and there were basically non drawbacks of buying that item. Evelynn, Ekko, Vladimir, Azir (blah blah blah) aren't supposed to buy frostfang, yet they still do. Targon was so problematic that it was the standard starting item for Bot lane. Adc's who would take doran's blade were struggling against targon users. Most of the time, the support would also take Targon which would basically double the income for the support and provide a very reliable healing for the adc. Enchanters such as Sona and Lulu would see their poke become completely useless considering how much hp they would gain back. The biggest problem was how big the passive shield was during mid game. As an adc, you should NOT be tanky which wasn't the case. Heavy carries such as Vayne, Kog maw and Tristana would see their win-rate skyrocket since they have a relatively easy laning phase. Nomad Medallion is mainly abused by top laners (especially Nasus). Taking that support item helps you get less penalized when you miss loads of cs. On top of giving back mana, it would ease top ganks because of the passive bonus movespeed. It should be clear that support items are meant for the support role only. Thus, moving the sighstone INSIDE a support item gives to most carry champions an unwanted stats which would greatly discourage them to buy that item. I can see certain champions who would still abuse of that item such as Lee Sin, Karma, Morgana. But it certainly would not give them a power spike like the previous support items''
xGunna1 (EUW)
: 8.2 OP champions
Jerzey (NA)
: u dont lol. Bad example with draven whos passives gives him extra gold. and how strong he is to lane against for any adc. Also u just give up good stats for just a free pair of boots. and a stasis effect. Not worth in my book.
You're talking as if Boots and stasis effect are 2 worthless things. But whatever.
: I want to make a bet
Something tells me that you main Darius and you're a little bit salty.
: If you think Jhin is bad it means you're not maxing his grenade first which iirc you should. Despite that, A sivir maxing W and rushing {{item:1038}} is going to clean up easily. Throw a Q to prime the wave, and then hit W, you is you miss 2 CS I'd be shocked.
I mean, Jhin is good at killing max 4-6 creeps. But what about super minions and about 20 creeps
: {{champion:21}} Because she's my favorite ADC to play in general, and I'm biased.
Oh. I love MF! She's my main ADC but she's so bad at taking down big minions. You constantly need to switch target in order to keep her passive up
Jerzey (NA)
: I just disagree lol, what may be a small gold lead early my 40 ad later is worth more
Small gold lead? that 1k gold is the equivalent of 3 extra kills or about 40 minions or 8 waves of creeps. Let's say that a Draven has BF sword before you. How are you gonna manage that? Game is mostly going to end before 30 minutes which by the time your 40 ad would be worthless
Rioter Comments
Jerzey (NA)
: honestly who cares, if u see they have a stop watch just dont sell ur soul for the kill, bait it out first. Its really not that hard. I pref taking socery second for the manaflow band and the scaling ad or ap. Why would i ever want to give up free AD or AP ? if u do the math the gold efficiency of that scaling ad and ap rune far out weighs 600g for a stop watch.
You want stopwatch and magical footwear because it actually gives you an advantage of about 1000 gold which is pretty crucial for you to buy ad and ap items to snowball even further. I cannot describe you how much snowballing is worth, but you get it.
Rioter Comments
: Stop watch is 600 Boots is 300 By taking the insperation tree 2nd you are guaranteed to save 900 Gold. 900 Gold, that means just for clicking a rune you started the game with 900 gold on your opponent while they have to struggle to build items.
If we want to dig in a little bit deeper .... : Stop Watch is worth 600 gold when you get it at 6 MINUTES Boots can be obtained at maximum 10 minutes and you get it 30 second earlier for every kills and assists, but is it worth 300 gold? It gives you an extra 10 movespeed. if you do some quick math, 1 movespeed cost about 12 gold. So those boots are worth about 420 gold Also, upgrades are 50 gold cheaper, which brings the value of boots to 470 gold. Some people get stopwatch only for the 1 time use stasis and then sells it back. Boots are pretty much required by every champions and you'll be mostly keeping
: Ryze's R channel is now canceled when you use stasis effect
Ryze is a nightmare to duel against. Him nearly escaping every ganks is just so dull.
: Support Item Concerns 8.2
I think that the real problem was how badly non-support champs could easily abuse the items. Frostfang provides a 20 AP and 10% CDR which is almost the same as Fiendish Codex for cheaper. The active movespeed on hit AND self generating gold was what made this item so appreciated by non supports. As a result, they could snowball easier and there were basically non drawbacks of buying that item. {{champion:268}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:8}} aren't supposed to buy frostfang, yet they still do. Targon was so problematic that it was the standard starting item for Bot lane. Adc's who would take doran's blade were struggling against targon users. Most of the time, the support would also take Targon which would basically double the income for the support and provide a very reliable healing for the adc. Enchanters such as Sona and Lulu would see their poke become completely useless considering how much hp they would gain back. The biggest problem was how big the passive shield was during mid game. As an adc, you should NOT be tanky which wasn't the case. Heavy carries such as Vayne, Kog maw and Tristana would see their win-rate skyrocket since they have a relatively easy laning phase. Nomad Medallion is mainly abused by top laners (especially Nasus). Taking that support item helps you get less penalized when you miss loads of cs. On top of giving back mana, it would ease top ganks because of the passive bonus movespeed. It should be clear that support items are meant for the support role only. Thus, moving the sighstone INSIDE a support item gives to most carry champions an unwanted stats which would greatly discourage them to buy that item. I can see certain champions who would still abuse of that item such as Lee Sin, Karma, Morgana. But it certainly would not give them a power spike like the previous support items
: How Riot Can Help The Idiots Who Don't Read Patch Notes
I really don't like to read. I often procrastinate for all my school stuffs. But reading patch notes are one my of favourite things haha
: Adding a Amount of Damage Shielded Stat into the End-game Stats
: > [{quoted}](name=Hochelaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HvPiRMAt,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-01-26T18:44:21.829+0000) > > When I meant Weakest, I was talking in term of dmg. > > I also do think it's one of the weakest. Even though you don't need to aim or target, Sona is very much fragile. trying to poke with her Q when she can be easily caught in the early game (she has basically no cc whatsoever before lvl 6 other than her purple power chord) is like playing with fire. > > A lot of enchanters do a much more better job at poking while keeping themself safe. {{champion:432}} {{champion:117}} > {{champion:43}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:267}} bs, her poke is the best, isnt blocked by minions like those
They all have an additionnal effect and does more damage. Soraka Nunu and Nami's poke aren't blocked by minions
: > [{quoted}](name=Hochelaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HvPiRMAt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-26T17:49:50.262+0000) > > What do you mean her Q does too much dmg? > It's one of the weakest poke in game. > > The only reason why you say it does too much damage is because she hits you MANY TIMES with that spell coupled with a power chord Its one of the strongest, it doesnt require skill, it auto aims, and can be spammed
When I meant Weakest, I was talking in term of dmg. I also do think it's one of the weakest. Even though you don't need to aim or target, Sona is very much fragile. trying to poke with her Q when she can be easily caught in the early game (she has basically no cc whatsoever before lvl 6 other than her purple power chord) is like playing with fire. A lot of enchanters do a much more better job at poking while keeping themself safe. {{champion:432}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:267}}
: Sona needs a rework badly
What do you mean her Q does too much dmg? It's one of the weakest poke in game. The only reason why you say it does too much damage is because she hits you MANY TIMES with that spell coupled with a power chord
: ive never seen this use but they do know you can look at their account on op.gg and check all ranks that they've ever been right? lol
Most the time they make up stories of how the account was their friend's old account and he only plays for fun where they don't take anything too seriously.
Rioter Comments
: Why does it still have that penalty anyways? They just removed Frost queen's claim so why would mid laners and junglers want this item?
Because for only 850 gold, you get to have 10% cdr and 20 AP with a passive gold generating. Taking that item early will basically guarantee you at least 500 gold earned from this item in a game which will give you free wards. All that for 850 gold. It is a great alternative to get frostfang instead of fiendish codex because the item gets self paid over time.
: i don't understand why you bothered to post the same message from two different accounts https://imgur.com/a/l6Emo >Of course there are currently no masters challengers right now. Season just started. The maximum rank you can go after your placements is Platinum 1. There is currently 1 challenger player and 1 master player on the North American Server. The rest of all players are diamond or lower and yet your entire defence concerning why you had a bad game was that you were playing with those kinds of elos your argument is still invalid :) >Gosh you're getting more and more stupid. >You not knowing this seriously shows how you lack of knowledge in the ranking system and all the MMR. if throwing around insults is the only way you can fathom getting your argument across then.... i guess i lost interest in you. this will be my final message. enjoy your ignorance! :) >So if you've watch so many good streamers, why aren't you any better? because i have neither the time, the mood or the motivation to want a higher elo i've had [my main](http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=voldymort) since the autumn of 2009 and for the past 4 seasons, it has been sitting in gold 5. mostly because i just leave it there when i get there and either move to another account till season end or play normals with friends i have 0 motivation to strive for a higher elo. the victorious skin is all i require (i have a tendency to colect things) when season 7 was ending maybe other people were striving for higher elos. i was putting this account and [my euw](http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=voidymort) acc in gold. it took me about 2 weeks each. my eune main had been in gold since... i think it was april... i forget. i left it in gold 5 when it had 15-14 win/loss or some shit like that... >You barely have any games on your record, this shows that you are the kind of ''mr knows it all''. You watch people from behind and just like add oil to the fire. see above what im using right now to chat here is called a "smurf". since you felt the need to... i guess... taunt me (?) with your other account then i assume that people having more than one account is a thing that you are aware of your above statement is proof of your ignorance concerning other people. nuff said {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} >People jumping to conclusion are the worst. when you Assume, you make an ASS of U and ME. you're such a Hypocrite... -TCR https://imgur.com/gallery/vgGrprB
see what I mean, That account ''ScoundrelRuffian'' is not mine and I have no idea who he is. Yet you say it is mine. You just jumping straight to the conclusion is what makes me continuing argumenting because your reasons are just dumb. You saying that my argument is invalid and ignoring the fact that you just don't have any good comeback shows how in denial you are. You are level 32, this average about 8 games per level. You basically played 16 games since the introduction of the system. Also, your ''lack of motivation'' since 8 years now justify your gold V placement ? i'm pretty sure that you're stuck in gold too as of me stuck in diamond. Care to tell me about your ''smurf'' more ? because clearly you don't play like a smurf to me. ''your above statement is proof of your ignorance concerning other people''. All I can see, is you just trolling the whole forum and just comment negatively on basically all your posts. You using that Vi emoticon when you are clearly just trying to annoy other people just shows how Sarcastic and hypocrite you are.
: >Let me remind you that we're during the start of season 8. Challengers and masters players are very frequent in my games and let me remind YOU, in case you've forgotten, that **you are diamond**, not **bronze** the excuse "higher elo players are in my games so thats why i have a shitty score" doesnt work when you are in the top [0.61% of players](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution). Particularly when it doesn't happen as frequent as your claim would have people believe. In the past week you had exactly 4 games where you have a negative KDA. the rest of them (36 ranked games, more or less) you at the very least break even. >why all my games have bipolar results. except they don't. not "all" of them at any rate. if it simply was all of them then your claim would have had something to stand on. the fact that it happens infrequently is the fishy part (see my previous paragraph) >Care to explain how you jumped to conclusion with your ''far from being the case''? ok let's take the game in question first https://imgur.com/CqN4fmU the other people in your game had 2-3-1 , 2-2-0, 1-2-0, 0-0-1, 3-4-0, 3-1-4, 6-0-2, 2-0-4, 2-0-6 **_positive KDA_** and then there's you 0-8-1 bad game you say? ok. let's have a look at the game before this one https://imgur.com/OCIatyv 4-5-1, 4-5-4, 1-6-8, 3-5-4, 14-2-9, 7-4-6, 3-1-19, 4-4-9, 3-4-3 **_positive KDA_** and you? 3-10-2 for most of your games, you , at worst, break even. but here and there there's a game like the ones above where the kda suddently shifts into something not worthy of a diamond player >Challengers and masters players are very frequent in my games you're saying it as if the start of season is the only time this can happen and in the rest of the year you only play with plat and diamond players please... the twitch streams alone call your bluff! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ what's my point? my point is that you have an inting tendency when you get tilted. at least it doesn't happen very often so there's that... i guess... {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Once again you're jumping to conclusion too quickly. Have you ever played in a high elo game? you don't even have a slightest clue of how different diamond is to challenger. Once they get ahead, it's pretty much over. So if I was in the top 0,61% of the richest guy in the world, that billionnaire guy Bill Gates would be the on the same level as me ? If the team was composed of 5 diamond players, chances of winning would be the same versus a team of 5 challengers? have you ever heard of a bad game? so you're telling me that 2 straight bad games means that I was trolling? My 10 placements games went unexpectedly good. I got 6W 4L. then, for some reasons, i got a wave of win streak. Is it not surprising that my MMR was way more higher than it should have been which is why i'm placed with masters and challengers. (https://imgur.com/a/8CJTH)] As for my Ashe game, like I said, they went AFK when i had 3 deaths and took easy kills when they could while I was the only one defending and still playing. Did you notice that the game lasted about 18 mins? For most of my games, I manage to stay even score because I MAIN SUPPORT, NOT ADC. Do you want more proof? Why don't you look at my season 7-6 Kda with Varus and Ashe ? it stands at 40% WR and a 1,47 KDA with 80 games with Varus and 46% with Ashe over 1,60 KDA. Oh hey, those were also diamond games. Must be a bad KDA for diamond standards. Yes it is, and I don't mind it. And as for my Varus game, Tristana snowballed. what else ? Unlike some players that give up, I don't. So even if i'm 1vs4, I still go defend my nexus. Most of my games, I usually play against D4-D2 players. and NO I don't usually play against challengers and masters. But hey, thanks for calling me a bluff Sherlock, my inting is really high. That's the reason why i've never had any warning or account ban since season 2
: >People jumping to conclusion are the worst. when you Assume, you make an ASS of U and ME. your story would be more believable if it was an isolated incident but looking at your match history, that is far from being the case {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} i suggest people reading your rant don't ASSUME you are truthful just because you said that you are {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Let me remind you that we're during the start of season 8. Challengers and masters players are very frequent in my games. I've been diamond for 4 years and I know that I probably won't hit higher which is why all my games have bipolar results. Care to explain how you jumped to conclusion with your ''far from being the case''?
: I've always found her poke damage with aery really annoying. Then again there's the meta
Yeah she WAS annoying, but not anymore :c
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Rioter Comments
: Don't worry, all the abuse of support items is getting all of those fun, engaging support quests stripped and replaced with a dumpy Sightstone active quest instead. Good job guys, way to make support less fun.
The point wasn't to make support less fun. The problem was how frequently other lanes could abuse those support items. - FQC is getting more and more popular in mid lane considering the active ability and how gold efficient the item is. - Marksmens are now rushing targon because of the shield and how it combos well with overheal (precision mastery) - Sometime top laners are now using medallion (such as Nasus)
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