: Let's make Riot's job a little bit easier.
Ithink {{champion:222}} E would be awesome. Lay 3 traps in 3 different spaces. it would make a big difference to people who placed her right.. {{champion:68}} This guys R
: Counterpicking hardly matters below masters lol, stop creating excuses.
Rioter Comments
: Being an ace doesn't really represent if you actually played well it just means you were the best of the worst not really a good trophy to hold but statistically if you keep up the consistency you will win a lot more than you lose
Meant to post this in Memes and Games
Rioter Comments
Pika Fox (NA)
: Damage was fine then, damage is fine now. You left for no reason.
Kai Guy (NA)
: Do you want to say kat is low impact with a lead?
Honestly, depends on the comp, but she’s definitely not low impact. However, your team feeds Jax/Yi/ Irelia against Kat then your lease matters much less
Kai Guy (NA)
: Why does their lead mean something but yours does not?
I would say it depends what champion has the lead. Some champs are just a lot better than others
: People really don't seem to understand this game so I'm going to put this in big letters so it's easy to read: WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. WINNING YOUR LANE DOES NOT WIN YOU THE GAME. Just because Tahm can beat top laners 1v1 in lane doesn't mean he'll solo the carry the game. He can't. In fact, most top laners he beats will eventually out scale him and be more useful. Just because you can't kill Tahm in lane doesn't mean Tahm is broken. If the only way you know how to win the game is to snow ball with a bunch of kills then you're not actually good at the game. When you're matched against evenly skilled opponents you won't have a 10 kill lead in lane. What then? The same shit happens mid lane with most mages. They're safe because they have great wave clear and CC and if you dive them or get into their threat range they'll kill you. But it is entirely possible to play around this. One possible strategy is roaming.
I don't think anyone said that it wins you the game. I just prefer to actually play the game when I lane
: Remember when I said this weeks ago and I got downvoted into oblivion lol
If I remember right, you and I were talking about this earlier.
: Is Nocturne the worst champ in the current meta?
: He is tho
But in a more real way.. his laning is busted
: He's a fine toplaner and way more healthy than him as a supp aka running zhonyas Maybe he needs a slight number nerf, bust just that he's not problematic on toplane because he counters your main sorry Yeah yeah and ignore that the champs that counter him the most are melee toplaners I think goes against your narrative so you'll just ignore it Thank you Gameplay Boards for another great thread filled wiht ppl that wants to talk about balance
I'm sorry, but you're just wrong. There is no melee that wins against him. Win rate =/= winning lane. He is impossible to win lane against.
: {{champion:27}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:83}}
Olaf, Mordekaiser, and Kled get 100% dumpstered by him until 3-4 items Singed loses if he gets hit with Q I honestly don't know about Maokai.
: He doesn't tho
Name melee that wins lane against him
: so many stupid people in higher leagues than me
Dunning-Kruger effect in full force here.
: Tahm is fine, he kept getting nerfs after nerfs because he was too good on pro play as a Supp. He would need to be on a meta warping state on toplane to be nerfed, and despite the circlejerk here he's good but not overbearing on toplane. So he's fine, he wont get more nerfs soon.
: Calling Tham a tank is like calling udyr or Voli a tank. He has no initiation and only singletarget CC, and the only reason he's used top is because his singletarget damage is insane early on and so is his singletarget CC while he also has high sustain aswell as a shield vs all-ins. The reason he's just annoying for toplaners but not overall gamebreaking cause he has issues getting his damage onto the right targets later on, his damage doesn't scale that well compared to how high it is early, and he's very easy to focus with no mobillity, poor ranged cc and how hard damage scales compared to even his tankiness.
He makes top lane unplayable for melee champions
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kp1FytKV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-25T16:54:21.134+0000) > > The resentment and anger towards matchmaking, in my opinion, comes from the how silly it is to have two different "ranks". Your MMR and your rank. It feels really bad to be in bronze 2 and have to play against gold 4 to get into bronze 1. It also comes from the team based meta where the weakest link often "breaks the chain" you have to be SIGNIFICANTLY better to consistently climb If you are playing gold 4, you must of climbed from iron and went on a winning streak to increase your mmr way above your division.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenTeaAndPoro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kp1FytKV,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-25T16:59:20.735+0000) > > If you are playing gold 4, you must of climbed from iron and went on a winning streak to increase your mmr way above your division. or.. got placed bronze in placements after going 7-1 I had it happen onmy smurf. it feelsbad
: So is climbing based on skill or is based on whom you get as team mates?
The resentment and anger towards matchmaking, in my opinion, comes from the how silly it is to have two different "ranks". Your MMR and your rank. It feels really bad to be in bronze 2 and have to play against gold 4 to get into bronze 1. It also comes from the team based meta where the weakest link often "breaks the chain" you have to be SIGNIFICANTLY better to consistently climb
Rioter Comments
Exin0 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rαy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4RtZcz3w,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-19T20:18:48.068+0000) > > No matter how well you play your lane, the enemy can oneshot anything as well as soon as he completes his first item. > > League feels like a coinflip fiesta for one and a half years now and I am finally starting to feel like it is a waste of time to queue up. Its funny but overall damage is maybe at lowest in comparison to previous years but its more compacted into burst in tandem with another big problem -mobility creep which allow more easy acces to squishies and lack of frontline. Also powershifts in champions kits allows them spike very hard at one item, it feels like game is composed only from assassins.
This is... not true. Mobility creep is also a huge problem, but damage is higher than its ever been
Nice Try (NA)
: Thank you for the memories Riot Games Im sorry i couldnt improve and be less toxic. (Please Read)
: Yea so... Why do you need to win trades? Why do you have to win trades early why not just focus on farming? You have all the tools. If he tries to auto you for passive stacks you can dodge them with a skill, if you feel it's dangerous you can Q away. Is the real issue that you were pushing too hard early and not respecting his early strength, rather than last hitting and waiting for ganks, and scaling? Probably. {{sticker:sona-playing}}
I mean... I won? I played passive and outscaled.. It's not a winnable lane. there is no trade windows. Do i need to paypal you for this coaching session? Probably. {{sticker:sona-playing}}
Jamaree (NA)
: Think of it as karma for all the times you did that against other laners
: Really? In my experience, I've shit on Tahm Kench's playing as Jax. You can dodge this auto's on his passive and leap away from his Q's. Later in the game is W doesn't out damage your W, if you want you can just hop away, and your ult makes his W pretty damn useless.
I don't know.. I played the lane relatively well, I felt, but there is just no way to out trade him.He out damages you without items in ling trades and his grey hp negates short trades.
Rioter Comments
: Best "Smurfing 1V9" champion to play this patch?
: 1: You do if your a mage and don't want or need a Mana item
No you don't, Luden's Echo.mana and ap and cdr
Saezio (EUNE)
: Yes lol. You get BE from level up capsules and the small first win amount.
Thanks. LIke I said, I should know this, but I've had this account forever and I've never paid attention to BE gains before.
: The absolute worst part of YouMe the Magic Cat
{{champion:64}} Lee Sin (Listen) the blind guy {{champion:57}} Maokai (I am Oak anagram) {{champion:63}} Brand (Like Branding something with hot poker) I assume you are equally disturbed by these puns?
Rioter Comments
Aamano (NA)
: @riot, please explain to me why people are allowed to ban/steal their own teammates picks?
If the enemy team has first pick. I'm not leaving yasuo open. I don't want them to have him, and I don't want you to play him probably
: I think they should revert GA
This is actually a big party of the problem. You don't' have to build "sub-optimally" to achieve other goals. you don't have to build sub-optimally to get max CDR you don't have to build sub-optimally to get offense and defense you don't have to build sub-optimally to get crit chance It limits the amount of crucial decision you have to make
Rioter Comments
: I mean, she's not really "anti-synergistic" then, if she's not actively working against Mordekaiser though. Bard ulting his Sivir who just pressed her R is anti-synergistic. Tahm Kench eating his Miss Fortune who is mid ult is anti-synergistic. Blitzcrank hooking the enemy Leona into his Jinx is anti-synergistic. Yuumi isn't doing anything to actively thwart or damage Mordekaiser's gameplay, so she's merely a bonus onto his solo lane experience. Sure, she doesn't have synergy, but she doesn't take away synergy either.
Imagine critiquing a memes and games post on it's validity
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Atqw9dqF,comment-id=0034000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-05-14T15:26:28.814+0000) > > IF tanks are like the Maokai, I just played against against on a smurf, then please jesus don't bring back a tank meta. > > Tanks should be tanky. Not 100-0 fighters under tower at level 6 that's exactly the thing i'm referring to That's what happens, tanks can't lane if they can't kill people, they also have to be tanks, therefore they can't be killed but can kill you, slowly and agonizingly. I don't enjoy tanks in the game at all and would prefer them to be completely redone
I don't think they have to direct kill pressure in lane, but i would encourage them to be tanky and possibly a minion bonus dmg buff to make farming possible against fighters with conqueror
Anu3isII (EUNE)
: Idk man, I see a lot of people complaining that Tanks are obsolete because of Conq, which simply isn't true. Heck, even the OP said that you can't just play safe under tower as a Tank! Your post contradicts with what OP said. My point is that you, as a player, choose what is your Win Condition. If you go {{champion:114}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:39}} and whatever Damage focused champion, ofc you want to gain an advantage and it sucks to get behind especially when your opponent picks the same type of champions. As it should be. You can't have a snowbally champion simply being good in every possible scenario, that would defeat the purpose of shutting them down. However, I can understand if some people consider snowball too difficult to combat right now, since damage seems to be higher than ever.
If you are a tank playing against a conqueror user or a Renekton with PTA.. There is no tank that feels good top
: That's like asking a cow to move over. It won't work. {{champion:163}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Atqw9dqF,comment-id=00340000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-12T22:11:40.720+0000) > > I would rather fight tanks all day (assuming their dmg is nerfed, why huge tank and huge dmg?) as opposed to the current shit show where team fights are just face rolling and one rotation, with CDR on champions with overloaded kits Let's be honest here, if all champs were as complex and skill reliant as the fighter class the game would be better overall Barring rare exceptions, fighter champs are almost always able to fight eachother, regardless of tier or meta. also as far as being fun? Tank mains don't play tanks outside of tank metas, fighter mains still like to play their fighters in tank metas even if underpowered. Because the biggest part of the one trick community is those 'spammy' champs, the ones who take a lot more practice to play.
IF tanks are like the Maokai, I just played against against on a smurf, then please jesus don't bring back a tank meta. Tanks should be tanky. Not 100-0 fighters under tower at level 6
: I put my game as an example.
zzzzzzzz go back to your own thread. I hate downvoting the same post multiple times,
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rUlb6WAE,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-13T17:10:08.973+0000) > > Equal to someone in bronze iv? probably not, i'd prob say around silver 4 level imo.
Then... that's the difference... lol there is legitimately a grand canyon of difference between Gold 1 and bronze 4
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rUlb6WAE,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-13T14:12:19.351+0000) > > Are you sure?... So you feel you have the same macro as a bronze player? I believe my macro still needs a lot of work, sure.
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Original Sin,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rUlb6WAE,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-05-13T12:16:49.601+0000) > > You obviously know there is a skill difference since you were bronze 2 seasons ago or something. No flame Im just trying to correct your ignorant comment. I was bronze in season 6, 3 seasons ago. AKA My first ever season playing League. Now don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying. The players in silver and gold are a tad better than in Bronze on a mechanical level. But when it comes to gameplay in general such as Macro it's not much different.
Are you sure?... So you feel you have the same macro as a bronze player?
BayoNX19 (NA)
: *OP brings up true statement* *post hits front page* *riot staff refuse to respond* {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
They have a strict "only reply if you're stroking the art/skin/story team's ego" policy
: All you need to do against tryndamere is play a high-mobility champion like {{champion:39}}, {{champion:157}} or even {{champion:58}} , and then just bait out {{champion:23}} ultimate and kite away from him while it's up, only to destroy him after it's over.
Possibly the worst advice i've seen.
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Atqw9dqF,comment-id=00340000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-12T22:11:40.720+0000) > > I would rather fight tanks all day (assuming their dmg is nerfed, why huge tank and huge dmg?) as opposed to the current shit show where team fights are just face rolling and one rotation, with CDR on champions with overloaded kits Let's be honest here, if all champs were as complex and skill reliant as the fighter class the game would be better overall Barring rare exceptions, fighter champs are almost always able to fight eachother, regardless of tier or meta. also as far as being fun? Tank mains don't play tanks outside of tank metas, fighter mains still like to play their fighters in tank metas even if underpowered. Because the biggest part of the one trick community is those 'spammy' champs, the ones who take a lot more practice to play.
I do agree with you WITH the caveat that damage is dramatically increased so that "fighters" can actually fight, and not faceroll.
: Two ranked games for the first time in a week. I am crawling back into my cave.
: > [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Atqw9dqF,comment-id=0034000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-12T17:19:23.217+0000) > > So much more skillful than Jayce smashing his face on the key board in hammer form or Irelia anime-ing all over the wave Oh yeah, because champions who take practice to master and have diverse options, require split second decision making, and can all be countered pretty simply is way less skillful than pressing R on malphite once every 30 seconds
The only reason there is "split second decisions' is because that is literally how long the standard "fight" lasts nowadays.
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