Rioter Comments
: As a 600k Soraka main the very existence of Senna is just a slap in the face
AntDoom (NA)
: Riot needs to fix this issue with leavers/rage quitters
This has come up a zillion times before and the counter answer is the same; It could and would easily be abused.
: ARAM only accounts ruin the experience of ARAM for me. Easiest fix is to make all champions available.
> [{quoted}](name=Harden Stepback,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y6Lm3zX6,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2019-11-25T16:50:41.750+0000) > > ARAM only accounts ruin the experience of ARAM for me. Easiest fix is to make all champions available. Or reinstate the bans that were in ARAM for a minute earlier this year. They literally solved the ARAM only account problem, forcing them to play somebody else other than veiger/pyke/etc. Unfortunately, their tears were too much for Rito and they caved and removed the bans.
xKairos (NA)
: Garen
> [{quoted}](name=xKairos,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NKEcJ3pB,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-22T22:39:50.247+0000) > > Am I the only one who thinks its incredibly stupid that a Tank top laner can build COMPLETELY FULL DAMAGE with no resists at all and still Soak so much damage? Its so un fun to play against on such a low skill champion. Garen building full damage is a soon to be fail Garen. He will be worthless in teamfights and will have paper defenses. I love going against no armor, full damage Garens.
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EmdKOEb2,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-21T20:21:33.549+0000) > > Heros of the storm did it quite well and proved it works... Sure. But that doesn't prove it's mandatory, and *League* would be giving up a bunch of existing death animations many players love and doing a lot of work that *doesn't add gameplay benefit* just to do this. There's not enough good reasons to do so. I know *you* may want it, but it's not something that Riot is likely to do, nor something that is necessarily appealing to the broader playerbase.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EmdKOEb2,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-21T21:03:02.693+0000) > > Sure. But that doesn't prove it's mandatory, and *League* would be giving up a bunch of existing death animations many players love and doing a lot of work that *doesn't add gameplay benefit* just to do this. There's not enough good reasons to do so. I know *you* may want it, but it's not something that Riot is likely to do, nor something that is necessarily appealing to the broader playerbase. Never claimed it would be mandatory, but it would help bringing Rito to the 21st century and make the game a bit more engrossing. Sigh, one can dream right?
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EmdKOEb2,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-21T19:38:13.610+0000)For a game to not have physics in 2019 seems...primitive. There are tons of high profile games that don't have ragdoll physics or physics at all. *League* (and MOBAs in general) is not part of a genre where this is in high demand.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EmdKOEb2,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-21T20:03:40.126+0000) > > There are tons of high profile games that don't have ragdoll physics or physics at all. *League* (and MOBAs in general) is not part of a genre where this is in high demand. Heros of the storm did it quite well and proved it works...
: Because there's no reason for it. It adds in-game chaos and motion for no benefit, and would mean that the champion death animations (which are, in some cases, pretty cool and sometimes skin specific) couldn't be used. It would be a lot of effort for no gain.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EmdKOEb2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-20T21:06:55.273+0000) > > Because there's no reason for it. It adds in-game chaos and motion for no benefit, and would mean that the champion death animations (which are, in some cases, pretty cool and sometimes skin specific) couldn't be used. It would be a lot of effort for no gain. I'd gladly give up some random "death animation" for bodies flying across the screen on death which is far more satisfying to me. I never even see the death animations for the most part as there is usually too much going on. For a game to not have physics in 2019 seems...primitive.
: Won't really matter in aram, if the Malphite can turn it into a 3v5 by deleting 2 squishies then mission accomplished and his team will likely still win the battle.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaj3xt4h,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXzULJAR,comment-id=001d00010000,timestamp=2019-11-19T13:33:45.433+0000) > > Won't really matter in aram, if the Malphite can turn it into a 3v5 by deleting 2 squishies then mission accomplished and his team will likely still win the battle. Almost never happens though. Malphite just ults in, does his burst then when nothing dies he gets two shotted by everything around him.
Rioter Comments
: Yeah agreed, I miss old runes 100%... & yeah I never see malphites go anything but pure AP in aram now, its been that way for a long time too.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaj3xt4h,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXzULJAR,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2019-11-18T13:59:31.683+0000) > > Yeah agreed, I miss old runes 100%... & yeah I never see malphites go anything but pure AP in aram now, its been that way for a long time too. And they are subsequently useless because they fall apart in an instant with no defenses.
: Burst builds are becoming the norm, and it sucks.
> [{quoted}](name=CØulrophobia,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXzULJAR,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-17T12:48:19.378+0000) > > Can we just take a moment to analyze the current meta? > > Shyvana- AP build is better than bruiser, tank or on-hit. > Malphite- Same thing as above, AP build is better than tank build. > Vladimir- The guy we thought of as a go-to tank mage plays like an assassin. > Garen- The epitome of tanky damage is now just damage-damage. > > It isn't just limited to champions, look at the support role. Only things that give absurd amounts of damage are played, to the point that Senna, the newest support needs to be given, AD, Range, lifesteal, and crit chance to work properly. > > Pyke is literally forbidden from being a tank, though his tank itteration might be more healthy than his current one. > I mean, even things that aren't supports will be played like supports if they do enough damage. Examples are Swain and Shaco that are actually good supports right now, and Brand whose default role has become support. Riot is even balancing around it, instead of helping Brand be a midlaner mage. > > This is not ok. There should be more to a moba than simple who clicks on whom first. The damage of the entire game needs to go down by good 30-40%. I mean, look at the resolve tree. Even that gives offensive stats with Grasp and Aftershock doing damage and only guardian being the utility shield (guess which one is the least used out of all 3?) > > Do we really need new lethality items and less vision in the preseason? Strongly disagree with AP malphite and damage garen being better than their tanky counterparts. AP malphite and damage garen are fail for the majority of people who play them and they fall apart in team fights (this isn't even counting ARAM, where they are even worse). I let out an audible groan when I see a malphite going AP or a garen going damage when they are on my team (conversely, I feel relieved when I see them on the enemy team). Don't play shivanna enough to know if going AP with her is better than tanky or not though so I cannot speak to that.
: Nerf Chain CC
I've been saying it for years that the way to solve CC locks is to add diminishing returns to each CC within a certain time frame. This means you can still get chain stunned, but the effectiveness of the stuns reduces for each one thrown on you say per 3 seconds. This way you still get stunned, but for less time and come out of the lock quicker so that you at least have a chance to move. Other games have been doing this for years so this is not a new concept, but Rito has been resisting the need since forever.
Rioter Comments
: most players are not high elo, which is why ap malphite is complained about
> [{quoted}](name=Spôôked,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LKItzN8n,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-28T04:55:49.823+0000) > > most players are not high elo, which is why ap malphite is complained about Ap malphite is as squishy as bean dip. Tank malphite is the only way he works. At least in ARAM, AP malphite is useless and just falls apart before he can do anything. Incoming downvotes from AP malphiteReeeeeeeeees.
Rioter Comments
: Why not just leave URF in the game and patch it while its up? So many people want to play exclusively URF. Or have an arcade mode section where you have all the featured games. My 2c.
> [{quoted}](name=SKT T1 SocialNet,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4io6mhJs,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-20T02:24:18.924+0000) > > Why not just leave URF in the game and patch it while its up? So many people want to play exclusively URF. Or have an arcade mode section where you have all the featured games. My 2c. Because then nobody would play TFT.
: Permabanned for a while now, update
Good news! You don't have to sit around and wait for them to unban that account! Just create a new one and start a new life in LoL. If you sincerely made those changes to your attitude, you should have no problem keeping this new account for the rest of your days in league! Happy LoLing!
Rewt (NA)
: Bans in ARAM should definately be a permanent mainstay
There was no good reason to remove bans from ARAM. They IMMEDIATELY solved the ARAM only account problem by making sure you could at least ban that ONE champ that bothers you the most (veiger). Then they removed it, and the problem resumed...
: Monsters don't break Garen's passive at level 1 now.
: Am I the only one that has no interest or desire to play Team Fight Tactics?
Nope. I played a few times, then got bored and went back to ARAM. It's very possible, like SR, that I'll never play TFT again. It's not a big deal despite the Rito hype train.
: Is there a way to silence those little monsters in ARAM that follow people around?
: I want there to be an option to remove them from ARAM entirely.
> [{quoted}](name=How Do You Meta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8gjQRhTM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-01T23:43:43.548+0000) > > I want there to be an option to remove them from ARAM entirely. I could go for that.
Rioter Comments
Hawt (NA)
: TT and Dominion could come back in a rotating game mode. That's assuming riot implements a rotating game mode, which could include past event game modes. This the only way I see TT coming back from time to time.
> [{quoted}](name=Hawt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YIYT2IiT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T18:11:57.084+0000) > > TT and Dominion could come back in a rotating game mode. That's assuming riot implements a rotating game mode, which could include past event game modes. This the only way I see TT coming back from time to time. Not likely, as dominion never returned since they deleted it years ago. Once it's gone, it's gone for good.
: Riot not even mentionning ARAM bans amongst the past changes in the last /dev is saddening
ARAM bans solved the main problem of ARAM only accounts in an instant. I didn't have to ever worry about seeing veiger again as he was my "always" ban. Nope, can't have this as it's a solution to a problem. Rito doesn't provide solutions, especially when they are easily solved.
: No I will not "friend" you just so you can continue an argument.
An alternate way to stop the raging is just to say "please, continue". If they keep typing insults, encourage them by saying "go on". They either immediately realize what you are doing (setting them up for a juicy report) or they keep digging their grave and risk a ban.
Hawt (NA)
: I always try to friend people from the forum or in game to play games with them in Aram or special game modes. Unfortunately, certain posters or in game players seem to never accept friendly request. Normally, a player requesting a friend request is to have people to play with in the future. You did the right thing OP, under those condition I don't think they wanted to add you to their friend list to play games together in the future.
> [{quoted}](name=Hawt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ym8EqJMk,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:53:32.227+0000) > > I always try to friend people from the forum or in game to play games with them in Aram or special game modes. Unfortunately, certain posters or in game players seem to never accept friendly request. Normally, a player requesting a friend request is to have people to play with in the future. > > You did the right thing OP, under those condition I don't think they wanted to add you to their friend list to play games together in the future. Yeah, this only happens directly after a match where (for whatever reason) they decided I was the one to rage against (In ARAM of all places as that's all I play). Usually once I say "ignored" they may say one or two quips in an attempt to bait me further (it's doubly hilarious when they go all chat to try and get the other team to report you, as if the other team gives a flip), but it then stops after that. For others, it's quite amusing that simply ignoring them can feed the rage far harder than arguing.
: Hell YEAH! I just got me a chest, it has been so long. I'm excited to see what I get!
> [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oFRmmA3n,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-30T18:38:58.157+0000) > > *Opens chest with the infinite amount of keys I have* > > *Congratulations Summoner! You have received a Jayce champion shard, a champion you already own! Hey! You actually already own every champion. Congratulations Summoner!* > > I don't mean to be a tad ungrateful, but what is the point of the chest system existing as an incentive for good behavior (earning keys through good behavior) when your reward is something you already have? Can't we just have stuff like that removed, so it doesn't give me random stuff I already own? And do not tell me "well HateDaddy, it is because it would be difficult.." No the fuck it would not. It is 2019, there is a solution for everything. Figure it out Small Indie Company. I'm the exact opposite. I have like 35 chests and no keys. I've had a surplus of chests for a few years now and never have enough keys. The chests used to almost always give me a champion skin that I could work for to get it unlocked permanently or swap it around for useful essense (orange only, blue is worthless) or another skin. Instead, Rito messed with the chest system and recently over the past few months I've been getting useless champion shards that I already have. There are a TON of ways to unlock champions already, we don't need to waste a chest on unlocking a champion that we already have.
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:50:15.369+0000) > > You made the thread, the community disagrees with you. The real question is, why should we take _you_ seriously? You haven't made any arguments in your favor (ad hominems don't count). the community does not disagree with me, only some of the players in a much larger community disagree with me. Not to mention my opinion is shared with many of the best and brightest players in the world, why are you saying something different than we are? And more importantly, why are you so defensive? It's almost like you KNOW morde is bad but you hate a champion that you lost to.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:52:42.079+0000) > > > > snip So you're an egotist and can't think of a single reason why we should take you seriously, got it. That's all I needed to read. Enjoy you're trolling :).
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:46:35.829+0000) > > Which doesn't include you. I am not the one disagreeing with them. I am also not the only one agreeing with them, a LOT of players much stronger than you, myself included agree with them. Why should we take you seriously if you think you know better?
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:48:13.995+0000) > > I am not the one disagreeing with them. I am also not the only one agreeing with them, a LOT of players much stronger than you, myself included agree with them. Why should we take you seriously if you think you know better? You made the thread, the community disagrees with you. The real question is, why should we take _you_ seriously? You haven't made any arguments in your favor (ad hominems don't count).
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:36:24.684+0000) > > Right, _we_ are the problem. **EVERYBODY ELSE**. > > Protip; it's not us that has the problem... What you are claiming is that you are right to disagree with all of the best players in the world and the players who agree with them
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:37:15.647+0000) > > What you are claiming is that you are right to disagree with all of the best players in the world and the players who agree with them Which doesn't include you.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-07-25T17:04:23.721+0000) > > You seem to be alone on this little island of yours... Sure, I can be alone with ls, DopA, Xiao Lao Ban, Cutemau and teddy, as well as every other player who has been badmouthing morde. Pro tip: the people who I aggroed by saying this are the sore losers who want to blame "wow, morde op" because they lost to a morde or something. Everyone else doesn't need to be ratchet over a well informed opinion or PSA. I think I would also be on my own little island if I went to planned parenthood and bragged about my very beautiful, conservative and responsible wife and many children or if I went to a BLM rally and talked about how there are villages in Africa where traders don't have wheels on their carts and if Great Britain didn't do imperialism things the better part of the continent, there would be more villages and entire countries like that today. Like I implied earlier, Not my problem. You can handle your disappointments, grievances or hostility internally. Have a nice day!{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-25T17:11:28.520+0000) > > Sure, I can be alone with ls, DopA, Xiao Lao Ban, Cutemau and teddy, as well as every other player who has been badmouthing morde. > > Pro tip: the people who I aggroed by saying this are the sore losers who want to blame "wow, morde op" because they lost to a morde or something. Everyone else doesn't need to be ratchet over a well informed opinion or PSA. > > I think I would also be on my own little island if I went to planned parenthood and bragged about my very beautiful, conservative and responsible wife and many children or if I went to a BLM rally and talked about how there are villages in Africa where traders don't have wheels on their carts and if Great Britain didn't do imperialism things the better part of the continent, there would be more villages and entire countries like that today. > > Like I implied earlier, Not my problem. You can handle your disappointments, grievances or hostility internally. > > Have a nice day!{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Right, _we_ are the problem. **EVERYBODY ELSE**. Protip; it's not us that has the problem...
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-24T20:45:35.374+0000) > > Morde is many things, but underpowered he is not... Maybe so at your level but morde is quite underpowered when you can sidestep and avoid most of his kit in almost every situation, outduel im in his ult and have better value to your team.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8aAnFYe,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-07-25T14:43:54.803+0000) > > Maybe so at your level but morde is quite underpowered when you can sidestep and avoid most of his kit in almost every situation, outduel im in his ult and have better value to your team. You seem to be alone on this little island of yours...
: Only if they level the playing field and unlock all champs and reduce the max rerolls players get to 1 if not 0. Also punish dodging more severely.
> [{quoted}](name=Pendergast891,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ftspKjJq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-23T23:13:03.923+0000) > > Only if they level the playing field and unlock all champs and reduce the max rerolls players get to 1 if not 0. Also punish dodging more severely. And add bans and team roles. For example; Each team will need a support, Tank, Brawler, ADC, and perhaps an assassin since there is no "jungle" in ARAM, otherwise it wouldn't work.
: Morde is underpowered
Morde is many things, but underpowered he is not...
Pyrosan (NA)
: It is random but people have accounts dedicated to ARAM only, they buy the best champions for ARAM only then get RNG'd through them
> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7BPpweiH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-24T08:45:00.392+0000) > > It is random but people have accounts dedicated to ARAM only, they buy the best champions for ARAM only then get RNG'd through them Yep, ARAM only accounts. They are a cancer in ARAM and until they are dealt with (several easy solutions, bans was one) they will continue to be a problem.
: Bring back the uniqueness that old runes provided
I actually hated the old run/mastery system. I prefer the simplicity of the new stuff by far.
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Rkeo3PNG,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T18:33:56.428+0000) > > How is Ryze "easier to play" by making his snare have a two step process before you can proc it? what are you talking about, just E-Q that's the new ryze, the other buttons are flavor if you must insist but really you just gotta E-Q
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Rkeo3PNG,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T18:39:16.466+0000) > > what are you talking about, just E-Q > that's the new ryze, the other buttons are flavor if you must insist but really you just gotta E-Q His E-Q stuns now? I thought only E-W snared when before it was just press W to snare? Geesh, I can't keep up with this game. Between wife, life, job etc.
: latest ryze rework. this time he was reworked for no worthwhile gains at all. i mean, he's easier to play sure, but that came along with seemingly all his depth of gameplay evaporating. maybe i'll still see good ryze players but they'll just be a bad ryze player doing things faster instead of actually being ingenious about spell combinations. maybe i'm overhyping it but this is no doubt one of the most debasing changes the game has seen, there was an actual place for the ryze just before this one (2019/07/24) after his snare had been tamed from the early days, now this one, meh, seen one of these ryze's and you've seen em all. this along with aatrox having his revival removed (lowering numbers was too much effort) meh big meh likely gonna be reverted at a later date but still big meh.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Rkeo3PNG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-24T18:25:07.942+0000) > > latest ryze rework. > this time he was reworked for no worthwhile gains at all. > i mean, he's easier to play sure, but that came along with seemingly all his depth of gameplay evaporating. > > maybe i'll still see good ryze players but they'll just be a bad ryze player doing things faster instead of actually being ingenious about spell combinations. > maybe i'm overhyping it but this is no doubt one of the most debasing changes the game has seen, there was an actual place for the ryze just before this one (2019/07/24) after his snare had been tamed from the early days, now this one, meh, seen one of these ryze's and you've seen em all. > this along with aatrox having his revival removed (lowering numbers was too much effort) > meh > big meh > likely gonna be reverted at a later date but still big meh. How is Ryze "easier to play" by making his snare have a two step process before you can proc it?
Rioter Comments
: Since Season 6 this game is just not about individual skill anymore. Your skill doesnt matter at all
Protip; It never mattered how well you did in lane since the beta (took me about 5 years to figure that out). That is why I stopped playing ranked, and eventually ceased all SR play completely. Tired of the carrot on a stick that you'll never reach game. Unless you had one of those previously OP champs that were exploited before they were patched (remember unkillable yorick?) it never mattered if you dominated your lane when your team dies making the same mistakes over and over and over again. ARAM is all that's worth playing now.
: Revert Galio's W and R
Galio used to have a useful (albeit easily interrupted) ult that if timed right, could devastate an entire team. Now his ult is only semi-useful in SR, situational at best, and requires coordination with a team to actually connect...which means most of the time it ends up just being a poor mans TF ult. In ARAM, it's completely useless (like Ryze's ult). The old galio was far superior.
Kuponya (NA)
: From purely a numbers perspective, Ornn is kinda OP
Ornn is in no universe OP...especially after his shield was removed. If anything he needs some love buffs to bring him back up to speed as he is currently subpar.
: Riot will probably get rid of ARAM and Twisted Tree Line to force more people to play TFT tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=How Do You Meta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IGydZ1aB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-11T19:39:35.571+0000) > > Riot will probably get rid of ARAM and Twisted Tree Line to force more people to play TFT tbh. Honestly, ARAM is all I play in league. I stopped playing SR after I realized it's a rigged clown fiesta after playing it for about 5 years, and I have no interest in TFT after playing a few games of it. If ARAM goes, their player base will also drop...likely significantly as I anecdotally know of quite a few players that also ARAM only.
: Ranked Aram needs at least 100 champions for unlock or have all champs available just to keep the rng in there.
> [{quoted}](name=Xela Syab,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ETaj6LKK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-11T07:07:29.669+0000) > > Ranked Aram needs at least 100 champions for unlock or have all champs available just to keep the rng in there. Yep. In order for ANY form of ARAM ranked to work, ARAM only accounts would need to be made obsolete. The only way to do that is make all champs available for ARAM, otherwise ARAM only accounts would have a higher chance of getting the best ARAM champs. Until that happens, ranked cannot happen. Furthermore in a ranked ARAM there would have to be a system similar to SR, in that each player has to play a certain role; 1: Tank 1: Support 1: ADC 1: AP 1: Brawler (since there is no jungle to jungle) In that, the rolls would be randomized and the players would still get random champs for that role. Doing this would make it a pseudo ARAM, but I cannot see how else it would work and remain somewhat fair to both teams.
: There is a flaw in some peoples counter arguments. The point of ARAM isn't getting a champ you are good at.. or enjoy playing.. It's about getting a Random champ.. and trying to win. The more champs you can play... the better you will do. Mastering more champs will put you in a higher rank ultimately. As far as comps go: An all sup comp can be very surprising.... The current meta in SR (Tank Top, Mage Mid, ADC/Supp Bot, and JG) works in SR because those roles are essential and the player base learned the game around them. Those comps have also developed around farming and vision and a variety of factors that are less important in ARAM. How you play as a team, in the team fight is what matters in ARAM. Yes, there are bad comps when paired against certain comps.. but what matters at the end of the day is teamwork, communication, and how well you play the champ. Ultimately though.. They should allow people to choose a role and get a random champ from that style... So that players can look at what the team is building, so that you don't end up with two tanks.. or three supports. Roles would be by class (Tank, Fighter, Mage, Assassin, Ranger, Support) for ultimate clarity. We could have a ban phase like this as well... (Banning CHAMPS not CLASSES). Players would ban the champs they don't want to see. During pick phase.. First Pick would lock in a Class.. and after locking in, they would be assigned a random champion. They could still reroll and the reroll system would work the same... I.E. That champ goes into a pool. Rules for this would need fine tuned.. but I think ultimately that everyone would have 30 seconds to perform the switch after last pick. IDC either way if the reroll pool is shared by both teams or not.. but it would be important to see what each team is picking. Because you were locking in a class.. it would ensure your teams comp was slightly under your control and that nobody was forced to play a comp that wasn't possible to be effective.
> [{quoted}](name=Sylias Ravenmore,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=in2pogJc,comment-id=001b,timestamp=2019-07-03T19:09:11.487+0000) > > There is a flaw in some peoples counter arguments. > > > The point of ARAM isn't getting a champ you are good at.. or enjoy playing.. > > It's about getting a Random champ.. and trying to win. > > > The more champs you can play... the better you will do. > > Mastering more champs will put you in a higher rank ultimately. > > > As far as comps go: > > An all sup comp can be very surprising.... The current meta in SR (Tank Top, Mage Mid, ADC/Supp Bot, and JG) works in SR because those roles are essential and the player base learned the game around them. Those comps have also developed around farming and vision and a variety of factors that are less important in ARAM. > > > How you play as a team, in the team fight is what matters in ARAM. > > > Yes, there are bad comps when paired against certain comps.. but what matters at the end of the day is teamwork, communication, and how well you play the champ. > > > > > Ultimately though.. > > They should allow people to choose a role and get a random champ from that style... So that players can look at what the team is building, so that you don't end up with two tanks.. or three supports. > > Roles would be by class (Tank, Fighter, Mage, Assassin, Ranger, Support) for ultimate clarity. > > We could have a ban phase like this as well... (Banning CHAMPS not CLASSES). Players would ban the champs they don't want to see. > > During pick phase.. First Pick would lock in a Class.. and after locking in, they would be assigned a random champion. > > > They could still reroll and the reroll system would work the same... I.E. That champ goes into a pool. > > Rules for this would need fine tuned.. but I think ultimately that everyone would have 30 seconds to perform the switch after last pick. > > > IDC either way if the reroll pool is shared by both teams or not.. but it would be important to see what each team is picking. > > > Because you were locking in a class.. it would ensure your teams comp was slightly under your control and that nobody was forced to play a comp that wasn't possible to be effective. That's all well and good except for one tiny detail...there's a very rock/paper/scissors mechanic to this game. If one team gets the team of rocks, but the other team has a team of paper, paper is going to win soundly 95% of the time. This currently already happens in ARAM.
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: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=in2pogJc,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-01T23:27:31.107+0000) > > Don't need a ranked ARAM, not until they remove the ARAM only accounts. What they need to add back are the bans. I liked not having to ever see veigar in ARAM again (he was ALWAYS my ban). Or alternatively, Ranked ARAM could have every champion in the pool, regardless if you owned them or not.
> [{quoted}](name=EATARI,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=in2pogJc,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-07-03T17:49:18.711+0000) > > Or alternatively, Ranked ARAM could have every champion in the pool, regardless if you owned them or not. It would be the only way to level the field as ARAM only accounts would have a major advantage. Even so, it would still be luck of the draw whether you get good champs or not, I just don't see how it would work.
: > [{quoted}](name=HorseProofBacon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RRM7qlNY,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-02T16:20:51.904+0000) > > It's just the latest "new" thing. All modes were popular when they first started out, but once the new car smell wears off it will become the next TT, played by a few while the masses go back to normals. Except none of the new modes made the game's popularity shoot up so much, even on twitch. I suppose we will see, but you're sounding very confident in your future telling despite not considering the situation.
> [{quoted}](name=Bard Barď Bard,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RRM7qlNY,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-03T12:35:09.575+0000) > > Except none of the new modes made the game's popularity shoot up so much, even on twitch. I suppose we will see, but you're sounding very confident in your future telling despite not considering the situation. Speaking from experience as I've been with League since the beta days. The only new mode that came, lasted and kept a (larger than expected) following was ARAM.
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