: Before going into too very much.... i figured i would ask what you had in mind. Because there is a variety of champions who occasionally build a little tankier depending on what you want to do... for example Neeko and Nami and Janna can be build a little tankier, Soraka can be made to have a fairly healthy build.... Zyra and Morgana in a pinch as well. Or there is magic damage dealing supports that are tanks like Galio, Leona, Nautilus, Thresh, Blitzcrank.... Give a little description of what you are looking for and im sure there is something that could be come up with.
> [{quoted}](name=Silly Neeko,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fbXjVMbp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-19T22:40:15.996+0000) > > Before going into too very much.... i figured i would ask what you had in mind. > > Because there is a variety of champions who occasionally build a little tankier depending on what you want to do... for example Neeko and Nami and Janna can be build a little tankier, Soraka can be made to have a fairly healthy build.... Zyra and Morgana in a pinch as well. > > Or there is magic damage dealing supports that are tanks like Galio, Leona, Nautilus, Thresh, Blitzcrank.... > > Give a little description of what you are looking for and im sure there is something that could be come up with. I donโ€™t know someone with high sustain and can deal some damage. I know swain vlad but they probably are not viable though I did have some fun with swain in low elo normals. My style is tanky. Brand zyra lux just not for me Iโ€™d take less damage for tank ranged though. I tried galio but that was bad.
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: Both options are poor considering you can improve your own gameplay. Theres always something we do wrong during the game that heavily affects the outcome of it. Not implying you are feeding or you are losing solo. But a lot of games are able to be carried despite what it may seem. not every game is, but its about your mental either way. :)
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Mute,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Wj4OKrh4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:44:00.974+0000) > > Both options are poor considering you can improve your own gameplay. Theres always something we do wrong during the game that heavily affects the outcome of it. Not implying you are feeding or you are losing solo. But a lot of games are able to be carried despite what it may seem. not every game is, but its about your mental either way. :) Look I get the whole mental thing and agree with you to a point. I've been in competitive sports my entire life. I try and look back on every game to see my mistakes, I watch replays, youtube, and streamers to learn the game. At some point, the "hey don't tilt we can win, my mind is clear" clap clap cheer cheer, can only go so far. Maybe the hardest part for me is seeing what I'm doing wrong as I don't have someone other than mostly worse players, that sounds bad, but the ones that flame are the ADC's that have 68 cs and are 0/8 wondering why the 10/1 jungler is taking their cs after a gank. who then follows you around pressing their abilities on you. I can't even get a leash and then get flamed when I'm trying to farm up and get caught up. As I do that the enemy jungler chases me toward a lane and pinging for assist, but they show up like me to a dry wedding reception.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Leventy,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=UlBNawLA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-10-26T02:29:12.139+0000) > > Well let me ask you about where wards should be, most of the time i place them where the other teams jgler may come from or in the middle of major intersections throughout the jgl depending where the pressure is. I do pick up a pink when I can and put it normally closer to my team so with hope they can keep the lane ahead of my ward placement. example would be the tribush top if we are red. The main reason I do that is because in Bronze no one wards, so if I can keep it alive for as long as possible so I can keep 4 wards on the map most of the time. It just sucks to be the only one warding. My game high was 55 wards, now that is as a support. Even as a jgler I still lead in wards on my team or in the game most of the time. > > > I really hate solo queue, I'll never get out of bronze. But I will keep trying. Honestly in very low elo I wouldn't bother with warding this much since people won't know what to do with the knowledge - as a jungler, drop the Sightstone and carry (unless you're Lee).
I did use this advice. I made some bad plays early but did comeback for my first ranked game as jgler. So thank you.
: Can you ward too much?
Thank you all for your input.
: At 92% I believe you're doing near the maximum of 3 wards every 3 minutes like you're supposed to. While raw numbers can't say whether you put down *useful* wards or not, having 3 out consistently (and a good pink somewhere) is the right move. Bad wards are better than no wards.
Well let me ask you about where wards should be, most of the time i place them where the other teams jgler may come from or in the middle of major intersections throughout the jgl depending where the pressure is. I do pick up a pink when I can and put it normally closer to my team so with hope they can keep the lane ahead of my ward placement. example would be the tribush top if we are red. The main reason I do that is because in Bronze no one wards, so if I can keep it alive for as long as possible so I can keep 4 wards on the map most of the time. It just sucks to be the only one warding. My game high was 55 wards, now that is as a support. Even as a jgler I still lead in wards on my team or in the game most of the time. I really hate solo queue, I'll never get out of bronze. But I will keep trying.
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