: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOteeeeeeeehhhhh I've been playtesting the changes for the past weekish and it feels good, overall I feel more confident in my laning trades after the initial first 5 chimes. Also having more meeps while dancing is the best.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot MEMEMEMEME,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Uo1WYtf8,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-03-23T03:42:06.959+0000) > > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOteeeeeeeehhhhh > > I've been playtesting the changes for the past weekish and it feels good, overall I feel more confident in my laning trades after the initial first 5 chimes. Also having more meeps while dancing is the best. But what happens when the world catches on to the on hit Bard mid?
: @Riot, Your Analysis of Fiddlesticks is Right on the Money
I'd guess it's somewhat about efficiency. If you're going to spend the effort to make sure you really understand how the champ's abilities are coded, so you can make changes with a minimal chance of adding new bugs, then you should take the chance to fix everything at that point instead of waiting and having to familiarize yourself with it again in 6 months.
: Bronze does.
: There is nothing Riot can ever do (without breaking the game) that will make support anything but the least popular role, bottom line. Support as a class/role in any videogame worth it's salt will never be a super popular pick, that's just human nature.
> [{quoted}](name=Bladerunner7777,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E2k8cwuM,comment-id=001700000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T02:57:27.228+0000) > > There is nothing Riot can ever do (without breaking the game) that will make support anything but the least popular role, bottom line. > > Support as a class/role in any videogame worth it's salt will never be a super popular pick, that's just human nature. Maybe the class won't, but the position of non-csing botlane partner needs to become more popular for the sake of queue times and matchmaking. The challenge is to do this in a way that doesn't invalidate traditional supports.
: Meanwhile Support is perfectly fine and I will hunt down anyone who tries to say otherwise
> [{quoted}](name=Bladerunner7777,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E2k8cwuM,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2017-03-21T01:21:21.846+0000) > > Meanwhile Support is perfectly fine and I will hunt down anyone who tries to say otherwise Support is objectively not fine, or we wouldn't have a shortage of supports.
Meddler (NA)
: No current plans for Vi. She's got some counterplay issues in some circumstances, but is generally in a reasonable spot. I don't personally feel Camille meets the standards of what a good diver looks like at present (weaknesses aren't clear enough in particular). I do believe with some small to moderate work we can get her to a good place though.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=cJZEgxAA,comment-id=000b000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-20T18:42:27.177+0000) > > I don't personally feel Camille meets the standards of what a good diver looks like at present (weaknesses aren't clear enough in particular). Who would you consider a good diver?
Rioter Comments
: Whoever invented that word deserves a cookie.
Latin. Fenestra means window.
: Fix the ranking system Rito.
If he's drawing roams from other laners, that's great! If the other lanes roam and don't get anything for it, it puts them behind. It's even better because both of you can help ward mid from both sides, so he can stay safe from those roams.
Dremiist (NA)
: Playing support every single game makes you want to kill yourself, especially in lower elo.
In your quest for readability, you've mastered the art of the paragraph break. Now it is time for you to begin the study of capitalization.
Ackelope (NA)
: You got me there.
> [{quoted}](name=Ackelope,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=s1uLNoxH,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-18T03:00:49.948+0000) > > You got me there. It has the same base damage as her Q, although the AP ratio is only 30% to Q's 50%. But the real kicker is that if you q-w someone and then e yourself, and get the passthrough damage, it applies thunderlords from a slightly longer range than if you had to aa them.
: I have a method to my pings that I don't know if anyone I play with understands. 1 ping means "Hey, be aware of this." Like, if I ping on my way once, it means "Hey I'm headed to your lane soon, get ready." 2 pings in quick succession mean "This is happening NOW." Like, 2 assist me pings means "I need help IMMEDIATELY, they are going to siege my turret and I am afeared for my life." 3 pings means "DROP EVERYTHING THIS IS NOW YOUR TOP PRIORITY" Like, 3 danger pings means "I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE IS A SYNDRA IN THAT BRUSH DO NOT GO INTO THAT BRUSH."
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Calad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JFLUxQBi,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2017-03-17T17:26:32.838+0000) > > I have a method to my pings that I don't know if anyone I play with understands. > > 1 ping means "Hey, be aware of this." > Like, if I ping on my way once, it means "Hey I'm headed to your lane soon, get ready." > > 2 pings in quick succession mean "This is happening NOW." > Like, 2 assist me pings means "I need help IMMEDIATELY, they are going to siege my turret and I am afeared for my life." > > 3 pings means "DROP EVERYTHING THIS IS NOW YOUR TOP PRIORITY" > Like, 3 danger pings means "I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE IS A SYNDRA IN THAT BRUSH DO NOT GO INTO THAT BRUSH." I know I'm absolutely trash at noticing pings, so I assume others are too; When I want to get someone's attention (eg, mia, help, or danger pings), I'll first do a normal alt-click ping on top of their champ, then ping what I want to communicate.
: Adc mains on boards for the past 2 weeks.. were you on a vacation or something?
> [{quoted}](name=WiegrafOfValor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KNEVUsP8,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2017-03-17T13:58:29.595+0000) > > Adc mains on boards for the past 2 weeks.. were you on a vacation or something? I've been on the polar opposite of vacation, and have only had time to skim the front page; I've seen several posts like this one, but almost no actual complaints.
: What does a programmer do in League?
God dammit I thought this was someone in misc with an actual question, but then m&g. Take your freakin' +1 and get out.
: If Ninja tabi is unhelathy for ignoring 12% of auto attack damage
Who's saying tabi are unhealthy? I've seen none of it.
Ackelope (NA)
: Her E is the shield. Am I missing something here or is it a joke because her E does pitiful damage when it does pass through something/someone?
> [{quoted}](name=Ackelope,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=s1uLNoxH,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-17T02:49:35.165+0000) > > pitiful damage Methinks you don't play Ori
: how long must i freeze the wave near my turret for jungler to gank?
: Another piece of advice for junglers: if you ping that you're on your way to gank a lane, don't stop to clear your entire jungle on the way there. Had that happen to me a while back where I was pressed under tower and was about to back since I was low health. Then, the jungler pinged that he was on his way and was moving towards my lane from mid. So, I stay, start trying to set up for the gank by baiting the enemy to dive me. Right before he dives me, I check to see if the jungler is in position yet. Whelp, he had cleared raptors and was halfway through red buff. I got dove and died. I asked him what happened to "on my way" and he said "Oh, well I meant after I cleared my jungle." facepalm.jpg
I don't jungle much, but when I intend to clear on my way to gank, I do a ping on the camps and then a ping on the lane.
: Tank Karma
Take RoA instead of warmogs.
Jaredan (NA)
: Shen is uniquely special in what he can do, but the education and training of his father brought that potential to the point of being viable in the amazing things he can accomplish. If someone else tried to do what Shen does, well, it would go very, very, badly on a large scale. Almost as badly as if someone with bad intentions _was_ able to do what Shen does...
> [{quoted}](name=Jaredan,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=N8yGsfmT,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2017-03-16T01:18:40.969+0000) > > Shen is uniquely special in what he can do, but the education and training of his father brought that potential to the point of being viable in the amazing things he can accomplish. If someone else tried to do what Shen does, well, it would go very, very, badly on a large scale. > > Almost as badly as if someone with bad intentions _was_ able to do what Shen does... {{champion:238}}
: you just said something with 0 argument and talk like "i said this i'm right you're wrong"
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AjclmLay,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-03-14T21:18:39.317+0000) > > you just said something with 0 argument and talk like "i said this i'm right you're wrong" So basically the same thing as in the op.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: "We can't allow enchanters to solo lane because they are oppressive."
I think you missed the part where they said solo lane enchanters were **boring**, not oppressive. Janna instaclearing every wave and never interacting with her enemy laner is boring.
Reav3 (NA)
: Who knows, we could go in many directions with his VGU, yordle is definitely one. Gnar is technically the first Freljordian yordle though :)
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=vLEjALxZ,comment-id=00090000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-01T01:23:52.421+0000) > > Who knows, we could go in many directions with his VGU, yordle is definitely one. Gnar is technically the first Freljordian yordle though :) A Freljordle, if you will.
Sambers (NA)
: At least that was a tank, how about the video where a {{champion:43}} tanks like 28 towershots and still walks away with enough HP to dance under it..
> [{quoted}](name=Sambers,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aOyXBEAE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-02-26T13:14:58.772+0000) > > At least that was a tank, how about the video where a {{champion:43}} tanks like 28 towershots and still walks away with enough HP to dance under it.. If you're talking about me in the video below, where I count 15 tower shots, note that I *was* full tank karma. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x51pb7f_this-is-okay_videogames
: Didn't they remove it just because they were too lazy to fix the sound bug?
> [{quoted}](name=DJMason88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aOyXBEAE,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2017-02-26T15:17:30.990+0000) > > Didn't they remove it just because they were too lazy to fix the sound bug? Both this, what Votable Jester said, and the fact that it's extra complexity added to the game and there wasn't much reward to it (if they want to buff those towers, they can just buff those towers' damage without adding the new mechanic).
: Can we disable/fix Tham Kench for the next URF?
What about the part where you don't have to stay in Tahm's belly the whole time?
: It'll most likely be weak in laning phase, and if Ashe were to take this keystone, she'd need to stack so much HP to make use of it. The healing is 5+2.5% max HP over 2 seconds, reduced by half for ranged. Even if she builds 6 Warmog's, she'd have about 6000-7000 HP, which translates to about 90 Health per second. For the entire team, that's 360 health per second. ...wait, that doesn't sound too bad.
I'd go cleaver and runaan's as my core items. Probably Zeke's and Vow as secondary items. Greaves for boots and then either Visage, IE, or BotRK as last item. -200k ashe mastery
: > Q2: There is no cooldown or limit. You can mark whole enemy teams if you buy Rylais as Amumu, constantly and forever. Support Ashe inc.
> [{quoted}](name=MrBuffington,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=kjauTenG,comment-id=000900010002,timestamp=2017-02-25T01:13:28.006+0000) > > Support Ashe inc. If this means I can play Ashe in 5 roles again I will be ecstatic. I haven't been able to do that since grasp nerf.
Meddler (NA)
: Any CC. CotC is intended to be personal initial survivability for those champs, whereas Bond should be the thing you go to for a mixture of personal benefit and team contribution. No CD on marking or triggering, most of the heal is a heal over time though so stacking, rapid triggering etc don't get nuts. I'd expect Leona to still gravitate to CotC more, someone like Braum on the other hand should have a lot of interest in this version of Bond (or whatever it ends up being called).
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=kjauTenG,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-02-24T18:51:26.697+0000) > > Any CC. Interested to hear whether there's any abuse cases with rylais/FM. edit: wav3break comments on that below
: No. Smurf: something little. The account should have a lower elo than your main one, otherwise it's a secondary account.
> [{quoted}](name=MarcheseDelGrill,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kcO352c0,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-25T22:55:13.265+0000) > > No. > > Smurf: something little. The account should have a lower elo than your main one, otherwise it's a secondary account. I have several secondary accounts that have higher elo than this one. But this is definitely my main -- I play most of my games on it, I have the most unlocked on it, etc. What would you call those secondary accounts if not smurfs?
: I just can't play League anymore....
>"tanks shouldn't tank in late game"-xypherous That is pretty much the opposite of how I'm reading that comment.
: Will surrendering at 15 minutes become permanent, or is it just a simple solution until the game reaches a longer state? And what plans does Riot have for reaching that longer state, asides from damage nerfs to masteries?
> [{quoted}](name=Legacy Hydralpha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4gbdIUE3,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2017-02-22T20:58:24.265+0000) > > Will surrendering at 15 minutes become permanent, or is it just a simple solution until the game reaches a longer state? Why not both?
: Wouldn't this just encourage people to give up earlier? If 4 people agree to a surrender at 15, they're just gonna surrender at 20. Why should the fifth person, or anyone for that matter, even try for those five minutes?
> [{quoted}](name=Hellioning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4gbdIUE3,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-02-22T19:50:40.772+0000) > > Wouldn't this just encourage people to give up earlier? If 4 people agree to a surrender at 15, they're just gonna surrender at 20. Why should the fifth person, or anyone for that matter, even try for those five minutes? I dunno about 15, but I've had times where I /ff20'd along with 2 others, but the remaining two decided they wanted to keep playing. And then in the next 3 minutes, we turned around a teamfight, picked up a tower, and came back to win the game. Sometimes I want to ff, but I'm still willing to try if my teammates aren't ready to give up yet.
Moobeat (NA)
: i quit
> [{quoted}](name=Moobeat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4gbdIUE3,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-02-22T19:47:38.807+0000) > > i quit FYI, both ff20.gg and ff15.gg are available.
: It will re-launch after the game. Just to give you a heads up on what you see: The League of Legends icon will pop up with a loading dial (just like when you first open the client), and it will load into End of Game with all your stats and details.
Does this mean the possibility to allow me to log in without typing my password? Or does that have to do with a server-side session?
: For that one AP Jungle Tristana main, it can help secure baron....
> [{quoted}](name=Buttsubushi,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aaPsnjo7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-20T14:57:31.661+0000) > > For that one AP Jungle Tristana main, it can help secure baron.... That's ulting monsters, not minions.
: The saddest thing about the whole Malz support fiasco
Anivia and Orianna support can both do this, as well. Originally chooses between ap and pseudo-janna with a more aggressive ult. Anivia chooses between ap (e max) and tank (W max, build FH and your ult slows AS a loooot).
: TBH that Tahm played it horrendously - he didn't get a single stun off and basically just walked around, swallowed one person at the end, and then died. No one even bothered to try and touch the Caitlyn and they let Renekton just run around destroying everyone. Otherwise, agree.
> [{quoted}](name=THE RlVER KlNG,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ixyFZjML,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-02-19T14:54:40.363+0000) > > TBH that Tahm played it horrendously - he didn't get a single stun off and basically just walked around, swallowed one person at the end, and then died. No one even bothered to try and touch the Caitlyn and they let Renekton just run around destroying everyone. > > Otherwise, agree. Let's also be fair, though: did you see that caitlyn in the S2 video?
: actually, according to riot, downvotes are only for when something is flaming/off topic.
> [{quoted}](name=JulietWasAWhore,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VYcZnWf1,comment-id=000000020000000000020003,timestamp=2017-02-16T18:44:34.253+0000) > > actually, according to riot, downvotes are only for when something is flaming/off topic. That's pretty contrary to my understanding. Source?
Skorch (NA)
: I think it got downvoted because it sounded like entitlement. Like "I better get compensation for this traumatic experience"
> [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VYcZnWf1,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2017-02-16T03:17:56.625+0000) > > I think it got downvoted because it sounded like entitlement. Like "I better get compensation for this traumatic experience" In fairness, that's how a lot of systems work. The US legal system, for instance.
Faco (EUW)
: atleast you are putting your effort into something usefulll.....like posting stupid ass emotes ..... what a great employe you are.....
> [{quoted}](name=Faco,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WwkXAjfx,comment-id=00020009,timestamp=2017-02-16T07:06:54.749+0000) > > atleast you are putting your effort into something usefulll.....like posting stupid ass emotes ..... > what a great employe you are..... I'd also point out, it was more than just an emote. It was also a quote picked out from the middle of the post. That part gave a lot of information. Vague, but quite a bit.
LankPants (OCE)
: >Without her ult, she has no dash. No dash is a juggernaut characteristic. >With her ult, refer to the title of this thread. Without his ult, Nocturne has no dash. Should he be tagged as something else?
> [{quoted}](name=LankPants,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sVPbhQu1,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-15T03:21:29.089+0000) > > Without his ult, Nocturne has no dash. Should he be tagged as something else? Shyv also has no CC outside her ult, while Noc has a fear. One hard CC is also much more of a diver thing (think: Irelia, Xin, Vi) than juggernaut (Garen and Darius have CC, but it's soft CC or really short). Noc has a spell shield. That lets him get away with building more damage. A spell shield makes little sense on a Juggernaut, because a juggernaut can just tank that spell. --- Noc is from an era before today's classes were well-defined. - He's kind of like a diver: His only dash lets him go in but not get out. He has one CC spell. - He's kind of like an assassin: he has a spell shield and ult's vision denial, making him slippery and sometimes able to do his job even if he builds full damage. - He's kind of like a skirmisher: A lot of his damage is from aa's. - He's kind of like a juggernaut: He has no dash outside his ult. In terms of how he functions, I think he's closest to an **old** assassin, before Riot decided that being able to get in ***and out*** was an assassin thing. He ults and tries to blow someone up 1v1, using his spell shield and tether to allow him to build a lot of damage and still survive, then either cleans up or gets blown up.
LankPants (OCE)
: >Low mobility and range, But she has a high mobility spell and a strong ranged spell. >high damage. As opposed to Irelia and Nocturne who are low damage, understood.
> [{quoted}](name=LankPants,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sVPbhQu1,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-15T02:24:19.601+0000) > > But she has a high mobility spell and a strong range spell. Without her ult, she has no dash. No dash is a juggernaut characteristic. With her ult, refer to the title of this thread. > As opposed to Irelia and Nocturne who are low damage, understood. If those champs build as much defense as Shyv builds, then they would have comparatively less damage, yes.
: It's highly unlikely that someone could hack you if they only had your summoner name. They would have to link a lot of different datapoints to translate a summoner name to anything that could be used to hack your computer in any way (and even then its a huge long shot). There's always a few key things that can help keep you safe with respect to computer security: * Don't click random things! Even links from friends, always be wary of what you're clicking. Be even MORE wary when the thing you clicked is suddenly asking for your username/password. Always validate the URL in your browser to make sure you're logging into a site/URL you trust. For example if you receive a message that says "Click here or your account will be disabled in 7 days" , always navigate to that service manually and check your account, never click the link! * Have long and unique passphrases for each service. Make it something memorable but lengthy, for example "I would really like to check my bank statement, please!" rather than "b4nkp@ssword123". Better than this, use a password manager like Lastpass/Keepass/etc with a very secure master password. Some services only allow shorter passwords, so this is where a password manager shines, as it can pick the maximum amount of characters but still leave it completely random. * Enable 2FA/Email Verification wherever possible. If you have any other security questions, just shoot :)
> [{quoted}](name=RiotGradius,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=6T9otXJm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-14T03:38:38.049+0000) > >snip http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/JX3Twfq6-how-to-protect-your-account
7th Syn (NA)
: he is a veigar though? why would you be buying a trinity + steraks as veig? you cant say "but the op" when the original build on this comment has nothing to do with OP either they were giving a standard build for someone like irelia and pointing out that lethality + cleaver negates all of the armor purchased plus some, and giving up your only mr to make you survive would make it where any ap champion would delete you as well (and cleaver is still shredding most of that armor added from randuins)
> [{quoted}](name=7th Syn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pkF4WMpH,comment-id=00120000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-14T03:13:10.958+0000) > > he is a veigar though? why would you be buying a trinity + steraks as veig? The top comment in this chain is talking about irelia or a diver like that. That's what I'm talking about too. Veig wouldn't build steraks. > you cant say "but the op" when the original build on this comment has nothing to do with OP either I was under the impression that the comment was talking about what a champ like irelia would build into a comp like the one in the OP. > they were giving a standard build for someone like irelia and pointing out that lethality + cleaver negates all of the armor purchased plus some, and giving up your only mr to make you survive would make it where any ap champion would delete you as well (and cleaver is still shredding most of that armor added from randuins) I mean, sure, if you build standard against a full AD comp. I wouldn't build standard. I'd trade the gage for a maw and swap visage for another big ticket armor item, or something like that.
: I've been mulling this idea in my head for awhile but am not sure if it is true: does having more items but they are all weaker increase diversity? The reason I am inclined to believe so is that having many items can lead to numerous opportunities to change one's stratagem or there are enough items to aid in niche situations. Keeping them all relatively weak ensures that no item is crowding out the rest. I know that there will be those items that will be the most popular due to certain situations arising more frequently than others, but perhaps this would change along with metas. Any thoughts?
> [{quoted}](name=Prophet of Urgod,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NZ01HRV6,comment-id=002f,timestamp=2017-02-13T20:29:00.420+0000) > > I've been mulling this idea in my head for awhile but am not sure if it is true: does having more items but they are all weaker increase diversity? The reason I am inclined to believe so is that having many items can lead to numerous opportunities to change one's stratagem or there are enough items to aid in niche situations. Keeping them all relatively weak ensures that no item is crowding out the rest. > > I know that there will be those items that will be the most popular due to certain situations arising more frequently than others, but perhaps this would change along with metas. Any thoughts? It matters more how *relatively* weak or strong they are to each other than how weak or strong they are in absolute terms. If a handful of items are bad, but all the other items are even worse, then everyone is going to pick that first handful, even if they're bad compared to today's items.
7th Syn (NA)
: and then you have 0 MR to deal with the support zyra/brand who also deals a ton of damage
> [{quoted}](name=7th Syn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pkF4WMpH,comment-id=001200000000,timestamp=2017-02-14T01:53:03.764+0000) > > and then you have 0 MR to deal with the support zyra/brand who also deals a ton of damage OP had a leona support. If you swap that out with an AP supp, then they're *super* squishy, if you have any kind of CC to lock them down (OP has what, veigar's cage & nami's bubble?). Opposing comp in the OP is fairly unique in that they are all casters, so FH and Thornmail are off the table. Against most 4AD comps, I'd get something like Tabi + (3 of: FH/thornmail/deadman/sunfire/randuin), plus an offense and a MR item.
: Scarra "you have a plethora of options to hit on exhaust"
Let's wait one more patch, though. I think exh is in a fine spot if we only saw one of them per team, but I agree with two per team it's a bit oppressive. Next patch, damage from masteries is being lowered across the board. I suspect the result will be that ignite becomes more popular again. Right now people have so much damage that they don't need ignite to finish off the kill. With ignite popular, we'll see much less exhaust.
: Ok, so you have an Lv 18 dude with around 93 armor 9 from runes, and 125 from items (full build being {{item:3047}} {{item:3068}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3053}} ) you got a total of 225 armor. 225- {{item:3071}} = 157.5 armor- 50 Lethality from items + 8.5 from masteries and 14.4 from runes(marks) (equal to 72.9 Lethality) so 157.5-72.9 = 84.6 armor which is the same as an unarmored champion. Ouch.
> [{quoted}](name=DragonShea,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pkF4WMpH,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2017-02-13T23:55:36.811+0000) > > Ok, so you have an Lv 18 dude with around 93 armor 9 from runes, and 125 from items (full build being {{item:3047}} {{item:3068}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3053}} ) you got a total of 225 armor. 225- {{item:3071}} = 157.5 armor- 50 Lethality from items + 8.5 from masteries and 14.4 from runes(marks) (equal to 72.9 Lethality) so 157.5-72.9 = 84.6 armor which is the same as an unarmored champion. > > Ouch. Or swap out the visage for a randuin's and now they tickle you.
: Honor System Improvements and Rewards
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