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: > [{quoted}](name=I am bad sry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RLobkPEt,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-09T19:08:10.224+0000) > > More mobility than almost everyone? I fucking hate that defense, it's actually so empty. > > Do you realize the amount of mobility creep that's been put into the game since earlier seasons? Yeah sure, Rivens mobility in her kit was unique up until like season 6, and then it's not that big of a deal. Shit, fucking Renekton covers more ground than Rivens QEQQ except it's on a longer CD. > It's still more then most, and therefore a valid advantage to her. > You also realize, when a Riven uses her abilities as "Mobility" to get to you, she's sacrificing damage. She can no longer use them when she gets to you unless she's as 40% CDR and can ability manage properly. For instance, if a Riven is chasing down an ADC, and she has to use EQQ to get there, and then the third Q to land on the ADC, she is now just a glorified auto attack bot until her Q comes back up again. What in the fuck is unique about that disadvantage? > You mean now she has to press R and 1 shot them right? I mean thats pretty much it. Afterall Malzahar's ult is an auto kill... Yeah you've converted me... Leave Riven as is. Afterall if you can be as angry yet ignorant as this, then it just explains why both out champions are in the dirt lol.
I'm sorry what, push R and one shot? What fucking Elo are you in that a Gold 3 Riven main is smurfing in your Elo that builds full lethality, come out of a bush, AAs you then Rs you and you die from electrocute? That's not how shit works above an Elo with a brain
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: https://i.gyazo.com/c62bc66eee14e4ea6c6ae566132651ec.png so this is the definition of being trash tier?
: If high elo Riven onetricks already consistently win with her what's gonna happen when she gets buffed? Sure worse Rivens will do better but than Riven would become busted at higher elos
Why isn't that argument put forth for any other champion mains. What about the constant buffing to Yasuo? Kindred? SAME FUCKING THING, yet for some reason it's different for Riven
: > [{quoted}](name=I am bad sry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RLobkPEt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-09T18:55:00.075+0000) > > There's a difference between Malzahar and Riven, Malzahar has thousands of times more utility than Riven will ever have. You're forcing at least 2 or 3 people to buy a 1300G item, or die. You have an AoE silence that you can cast from a safe distance, and you can completely ignore laning phase if you want with your DoT. And Riven has move mobility then almost anyone, 3 abilities in 1, several forms of CC, a shield, an AOE ult that literally 1 shots squishes, and an several AA resets. The similarity is they have relatively good winrates while being effectively nerfed to hell champions. No one plays them except those that can make them work, which is why they still have a good winrate, but they are nonetheless in a bad spot right now.
More mobility than almost everyone? I fucking hate that defense, it's actually so empty. Do you realize the amount of mobility creep that's been put into the game since earlier seasons? Yeah sure, Rivens mobility in her kit was unique up until like season 6, and then it's not that big of a deal. Shit, fucking Renekton covers more ground than Rivens QEQQ except it's on a longer CD. You also realize, when a Riven uses her abilities as "Mobility" to get to you, she's sacrificing damage. She can no longer use them when she gets to you unless she's as 40% CDR and can ability manage properly. For instance, if a Riven is chasing down an ADC, and she has to use EQQ to get there, and then the third Q to land on the ADC, she is now just a glorified auto attack bot until her Q comes back up again. What in the fuck is unique about that disadvantage? Edit: And, Malz is played competitively for the insane utility that he has, when was the last time Riven was played competitively? Oh right, Khan in LCK like 5 months ago, and the only reason he won and got a penta was because the enemy didn't know the limits of Riven
: lol, dude I'm a {{champion:90}} main... I know your pain all too well lol
There's a difference between Malzahar and Riven, Malzahar has thousands of times more utility than Riven will ever have. You're forcing at least 2 or 3 people to buy a 1300G item, or die. You have an AoE silence that you can cast from a safe distance, and you can completely ignore laning phase if you want with your DoT.
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