Midg3t (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=I memba balance ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IAb5JIXI,comment-id=00030000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T23:18:57.693+0000) > > It was less than a full season ago in the video where he's Lissandra you ape. Patch 8.23 is NOT that long ago. And the Jhin video is from this season with Tarzaned on his main account that he was at Rank 1 with. And funny how he dropped from around 1750 LP to 1400 LP when Dekar first announced he made a video about Tarzaned wintrading. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Yea, youre right. There is definitelly some connection between Tarzaned losing LP and a video of a VOD made in 2018. Yep, solid fucking evidence xD
> [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IAb5JIXI,comment-id=000300000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-23T10:03:05.710+0000) > > Yea, youre right. There is definitelly some connection between Tarzaned losing LP and a video of a VOD made in 2018. > Yep, solid fucking evidence xD the Jhin video is from this season less than a month ago. The full game with the Lee Sin wintrading for Tarzaned on Lissandra is from patch 8.23. The patch notes released on November 29th, 2018 for that specific patch. So we're talking less than 8 months ago. Use your head.
Midg3t (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IAb5JIXI,comment-id=000300000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-22T09:56:38.244+0000) > > Riot has no obligation to reach over to Twitch and platforms that isn't theirs; they could, but they have no obligations to. His viewers if also players for the game instead have the obligations to report it, but ofc, they probably won't because that's what they're there for. That's not what I meant. Tarzaned lowkey streamed himself wintrading. In front of a big audience. Riot most likely noticed it. So there can be 2 outcomes: 1. He got banned and OP is stirring up drama for no reason other than farm upvotes. 2. He didnt get banned and he prolly wont since it was a long time ago, but even if he does he wont care since he most likely did it for money and he got banned in the past for other shit so he would prolly just start playing on another acc, so again, nothing major will come out of it. aka, no point in this post other than, you guessed it, farm internet points.
> [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IAb5JIXI,comment-id=0003000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-22T10:35:40.423+0000) > > That's not what I meant. > Tarzaned lowkey streamed himself wintrading. In front of a big audience. Riot most likely noticed it. > So there can be 2 outcomes: > 1. He got banned and OP is stirring up drama for no reason other than farm upvotes. > 2. He didnt get banned and he prolly wont since it was a long time ago, but even if he does he wont care since he most likely did it for money and he got banned in the past for other shit so he would prolly just start playing on another acc, so again, nothing major will come out of it. aka, no point in this post other than, you guessed it, farm internet points. It was less than a full season ago in the video where he's Lissandra you ape. Patch 8.23 is NOT that long ago. And the Jhin video is from this season with Tarzaned on his main account that he was at Rank 1 with. And funny how he dropped from around 1750 LP to 1400 LP when Dekar first announced he made a video about Tarzaned wintrading. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
YaraUwU (NA)
: Riot nerf riven? When shes strong as fuck? Maybe after a year or to lol. Shes one of those champions riot refuses to actually nerf. Like {{champion:67}} {{champion:157}} and {{champion:64}}
> [{quoted}](name=YaraUwU,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EPqAvWZj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-18T22:20:12.843+0000) > > Riot nerf riven? When shes strong as fuck? Maybe after a year or to lol. Shes one of those champions riot refuses to actually nerf. Like {{champion:67}} {{champion:157}} and {{champion:64}} except Lee gets nerfed.... i main Lee, I would know. Like when his base damage on his R took a hit because people wouldn't stop bitching about him when he was around a 50% winrate. Which is fine. Champions like Lee, Riven, etc SHOULD be kept around 48%.
: Hotfix needed tier {{champion:266}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}} Broken OP WTF tier {{champion:84}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:223}} OP tier {{champion:157}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:120}} Then there is honestly like 20 more champs in the need minor nerfs tier. Worst part is like 80% of the OP champs were OP when i stopped playing for months in like 9.3 Riot does the worst job of "balance" of any major company.
no no no. Small "billion dollar INDIE company" Riot Games
: Cut all CDR in the game by 50%, lower the cap to 20%, delete {{item:3161}}; done.
A bit overkill....lol but it would be fun to see the reaction of Riven mains
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=I memba balance ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HFZQ3ERX,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-18T01:25:02.380+0000) > > Because they are supposed to be easy to play champions. If they have higher winrates/playrates it isn't nearly as indicative of an unhealthy champion as when someone like Riven (who is supposedly high skill floor/cap), has a high winrate and maintains her high playrate. That is only at high elos though, at lower elos her win rate is trash, isn’t that a showcase that she is mechanically difficult?
ok you're proving my point. if a mechanically difficult champion has a high winrate/pickrate, they are most likely overpowered. If Lee Sin had a 52% winrate with his current pickrate, the boards would be SCREAMING for nerfs. Because he requires a lot of skill to pilot effectively and to win on him. Instead, he's around a 48% winrate in all 3 regions I have listed and he's considered relatively balanced at that winrate.
Jamaree (NA)
: Question, why aren’t you complaining about Sona, or Sivir, or Jinx, or any of the other multiple champions with higher pick, ban, play and win rates then her with a far low skill floor?
Because they are supposed to be easy to play champions. If they have higher winrates/playrates it isn't nearly as indicative of an unhealthy champion as when someone like Riven (who is supposedly high skill floor/cap), has a high winrate and maintains her high playrate.
: At this point we should be happy over just an indirect nerf...like a nerf to black cleaver or a rune or something.
No. Because why should other champions that are in a healthy spot, also suffer indirect nerfs because of that abomination?
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OKIDJ (NA)
: Riot won't let any bruisers live long in the meta.
> [{quoted}](name=OKIDJ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GApb9F5r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T03:52:46.971+0000) > > Riot won't let any bruisers live long in the meta. Riven, Jax, Fiora, Camille.... LOL
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FizupQPROZ0 : /
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: I really like how an average 550 range with some offenders having 700+ is considered balanced, but goodness forbid a melee champion have beyond 125 or heck even 200. That level of ranged is too broken right {{champion:18}}{{champion:96}}{{champion:51}}{{champion:22}}? How dare a champion encroach on the innate right of the ADC to massively outrange and point+click for tons of damage?
Considering the fact Irelia is also one of the most mobile champions in the game with numerous ways of resetting her mobility, why the fuck should she get the highest non-empowered melee auto attack range? Tell me something... what does Irelia really lack? She has burst damage, sustained damage, physical/magical/true damage, sustain on Q and conquerer when proc'ed, hard ranged CC that can stun multiple targets, a slow, hyper mobility, an uninterruptable 50% physical damage reduction channel, her passive is literally a fucking Wits End built in when fully stacked just without the healing aspect. She has a great early game, mid game, and late game. Snowballs extremely fucking hard. Can easily play from behind. All it takes is one teamfight where she hits resets and it's free. Her and Akali are two of the most digusting abominations to touch the Rift.
: Bard? Balanced? Sometime post released the bugger go in and auto attack some poor ADC with his meeps (still early game) and chunk literally 30-40% of their healthbar in just 2 hits or so. If he landed a stun it was almost certainly a kill. Furthermore he along with Tahm kench is one of the two champs who can legit hardtroll his own team, i doubt there is anyone who hasnt had to endure this unless playing him themselves mainly. And even now his main style is go walk around, do pretty sick auto attack damage due to his meeps every now and then while flinging around that fat stun of his. Made a mistake while roaming? Ops, let me just stun you, open a tunnel and run, then max range stun you if you follow before making my escape. And for some reason his meep autos have a pretty sizeable slow too.......this champ might be simple but that´s no grounds for lack of ability to frustrate both enemies and teammates.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aZPQfbzh,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-06-11T15:39:36.553+0000) > > Bard? Balanced? > > > Sometime post released the bugger go in and auto attack some poor ADC with his meeps (still early game) and chunk literally 30-40% of their healthbar in just 2 hits or so. > > If he landed a stun it was almost certainly a kill. > > > Furthermore he along with Tahm kench is one of the two champs who can legit hardtroll his own team, i doubt there is anyone who hasnt had to endure this unless playing him themselves mainly. > > > > And even now his main style is go walk around, do pretty sick auto attack damage due to his meeps every now and then while flinging around that fat stun of his. > > Made a mistake while roaming? Ops, let me just stun you, open a tunnel and run, then max range stun you if you follow before making my escape. > > > > And for some reason his meep autos have a pretty sizeable slow too.......this champ might be simple but that´s no grounds for lack of ability to frustrate both enemies and teammates. okay. you're actually trolling if you think Bard is anything more than balanced. The champion has literally NEVER been nerfed. Has never had a winrate higher than 51% for a stretch of time. He's never been out of line.
Weensw (NA)
: Out of every single champion, who can give the best leash?
Zyra or Heimerdinger. the rest aren't even close.
: this might be even worse. the problem with aftershock is that some champions like certain mages abuse it to to trade with their opponent and make it ridiculously hard to trade back against them at the same time. like it becomes impossible to fight back against a {{champion:127}} with zonyas. courage of the colossus is almost the same mechanic, except that it grants a shield instead of increased resistances. this means if you trade into a mage with aftershock youre dealing massively reduced damage to him. but trading into a mage with a beefed up courage of the colossus (remember that runes are stronger than masteries were), means they could potentially absorb your damage entirely.
Except Courage of the Colossus had a shit shield in 1v1 scenarios. And it also scaled off either your maximum or bonus HP. So squishy mages that don't build hardly any bonus HP would have a shitty shield that doesn't do anything for laning. CotC was great for tanks that CC'ed into a teamfight and were around 5 enemies. THEN, the shield was big. But once again, it didn't grant any bonus resistances and you had to have a good sized health pool while also diving into an enemy team. It provided zero damage as well. Much more healthy than Aftershock and you won't have stupid fucking mages/battle mages ruining it for tanks.
: {{champion:420}} was the last non toxic champion imo. The first few weeks were bad but then they changed it and people learned how to play against her. She is the only juggernaut that I enjoy to play against.
> [{quoted}](name=kda akali,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aZPQfbzh,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-06-11T10:27:26.832+0000) > > {{champion:420}} was the last non toxic champion imo. The first few weeks were bad but then they changed it and people learned how to play against her. She is the only juggernaut that I enjoy to play against. uh....no. somehow getting my soul ripped out and being able to take damage while under/behind my turret doesn't seem very healthy. And since Illaoi's now max E first it's off cooldown before you have killed two tentacles to release the first parasite. she is aids.
Mhihnj (EUW)
: I consider {{champion:202}} to be quite well designed.
> [{quoted}](name=Mhihnj,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aZPQfbzh,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-06-11T05:22:07.650+0000) > > I consider {{champion:202}} to be quite well designed. He is. But he's been nerfed several times. Bard has literally never been nerfed. Only buffed or bugfixed.
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aZPQfbzh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-10T21:26:58.528+0000) > > Bard was hella toxic on release. I hated playing against AND ESPECIALLY with that champion. I'm sorry we left you but meeps hit like jeeps
> [{quoted}](name=FeuerMarke,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aZPQfbzh,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-06-11T00:15:30.270+0000) > > I'm sorry we left you but meeps hit like jeeps I'm gonna have to steal that one. "the meeps that hit like jeeps". Nice
: > [{quoted}](name=I memba balance ,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=qUa5FaYZ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-10T23:24:43.956+0000) > > they are considering changing Swain's passive to that it infinitely stacks souls and every soul gives him an additonal 10 damage on his ultimate. So if you're able to obtain 100 souls in a game you'll be dealing an extra 1000 damage on top of the base damage of 150/250/350 (+40% AP). Swain with 400 AP isn't out of the question and I think 50 stacks is reasonable for a game. So you're looking at an ult blast AoE blast of 720 with those numbers. Not to mention the damage you do while draining and healing off champions. And they're also looking at increasing the max number of drained champions to 3/4/5 per rank of ultimate. ok sure but why
buddy that is the ultimate question isn't it? i've posed that question to nearly every decision the Balance Team has made over the last 3 seasons
: Bard was hella toxic on release. I hated playing against AND ESPECIALLY with that champion.
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aZPQfbzh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-10T21:26:58.528+0000) > > Bard was hella toxic on release. I hated playing against AND ESPECIALLY with that champion. That's just, like, your opinion man.
: Context?
they are considering changing Swain's passive to that it infinitely stacks souls and every soul gives him an additonal 10 damage on his ultimate. So if you're able to obtain 100 souls in a game you'll be dealing an extra 1000 damage on top of the base damage of 150/250/350 (+40% AP). Swain with 400 AP isn't out of the question and I think 50 stacks is reasonable for a game. So you're looking at an ult blast AoE blast of 720 with those numbers. Not to mention the damage you do while draining and healing off champions. And they're also looking at increasing the max number of drained champions to 3/4/5 per rank of ultimate.
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Demonly (NA)
: I think the system is rigged. When you win too many games in a row the algorithm gives you players on losing streaks, lower elo players vs high elo players, people who haven’t played the game or a ranked game in days. Noticed in my promo lobbies people already flaming each other more so compared to regular queued ranked games, maybe that’s just me.
Just make the LP gains/losses performance based. Just like how players get those "grades" for their performance, so should they also have their LP gains/losses affected by that. So people actually start giving a fuck when they die to the jungler 3 times in first 5 minutes and the proceed to run it down lanes attacking turrets to make it look like they're still trying to get objectives and help but they aren't. they're just dying over and over and over again.
: "unintentionally intentionally feeding" You do realize that's not possible right? That's like saying, "fatally nonfatal accident". If someone is feeding it's either unintentional or intentional. Not both.
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: {{item:3135}} Got nerfed {{item:3165}} Got nerfed too {{item:3040}} also got nerfed Stop crying about mage items and get good at the game.
Oh hello again Ahri abuser. Still enjoying your freelo champion. You're one that would truly know balance since you'll claim til the end of days that Ahri is fine and doesn't need nerfs despite maintaining a winrate over 52% at all times with a high pickrate. But it's fine. You'll use the same excuses as always like "she doesn't do damage" "she's just safe" "she isn't as toxic as other champions LOOK AT HER LOW BANRATE". go away waterhead.
: actually adcs do take camps
dear god you're actually dense. ADC's RARELY touch jungle camps before laning phase ends and most of the time it's just Red buff. so stop trying to make the two sound the same because it's not even remotely close. as i said before False Equivalence.
: 3 of those aren't mage items
I realize. but the title also says "Items that need nerfed" not just mage items. I was addressing the fact that mage abusers want to bitch about lack of itemization but they have literally the best items in the fucking game.
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: Me: "League isn't even fun anymore"
I understand this is a meme, but a majority of the players that say this are fed up with Riot and their shitty balancing practices. They continue to play this game for two reasons. For starters they are addicted after having played the game for a long time. Secondly, they have built enough fond memories of when this game was actually fun that they are on borrowed time from the actual quality seasons where Morello was in place and would actually NERF problematic champions. Even sometimes choosing to nerf them to an unplayable or near unplayable state until they could rework them. Old Evelynn and old Urgot for example. Chances are, the people who say this, do in fact play the game less than they used to by a considerable rate. I myself have said this. I sadly used to play this game for 8+ hours a day back in Season 5 and 6 and even parts of 7. Now when I play I'm pissed off after about 3 games after having to play against champions like Akali, Sylas, Riven, Darius, Renekton, Kai'sa, Ezreal, etc.
: its really not though... funneling has existed ever since the "standard meta" of duo bot lane has existed. that is literally the point of putting the adc with a support with gold income and feeding all the gold/cs/kills to the adc its just happening in a different way
Ok. Funneling in the way that I just experienced is with a Taric going midlane with Relic Shield while Master Yi does all of his Jungle camps and then comes mid to clear waves while his camps aren't spawned. ADC's, DONT GO CLEAR JUNGLE CAMPS. So Master Yi with this funneling bullshit is potentially getting kills/xp through ganks, getting all the XP/gold from his jungle camps, and getting numerous waves of gold/xp from midlane. Most likely also invading into the enemy jungle when possible because he is on comms with Taric and has backup. it's fucking bullsht style of play.
: Melee toplaners weigh in: Who's the most tilting ranged champion to face top?
Most tilting ranged champ would have to be Neeko or Jayce. Jayce when the person knows how to pilot them extremely well and their spacing is excellent to avoid tower shots but keep up consistent poke/pressure while you try to farm.
: what if people just played yi taric in bot lane with taric funneling all the gold to yi ? would this be ok ?
is Yi also taking all the jungle camps? because that is funneling. not just laning with someone like Taric. False Equivalence.
Onandaga (NA)
: I don't want shit champs that I have zero interest in ever playing to be unlocked in ARAM.
too fucking bad. do you honestly think anyone wants to play Udyr or Rammus or Skarner? No probably not. But some people actually have some balls and play ARAM on accounts that have most, or all of the champions and not one some bullshit ARAM only account with all the OP tier champs.
: Why not both? I'm sick of fighting the same 10 champs every week, and usually, one of them's either Yi or Kayle or both. Cause once they hit a certain point, you can't stop them.
I'd love both. But if bans are allowed then certain champs will literally never be seen again. I banned Lux every game when they had bans. So I think a healthier option is to unlock all champs for all players in ARAM.
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: Irelia is still going to be kept weak so long as Q is a full reset from marks.
LOOOOL you think she is weak LOOOOOOOOL that's why her E cooldown is getting 4 seconds added at rank 1 LOOOOOL.
: Remember when some boards people flamed us for complaining about Rivens compensation buffs?
: > [{quoted}](name=I memba balance ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O6I4azJ1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T01:26:15.252+0000) > > One oppressively bullshit champion beating another oppressively bullshit champion doesn't make either of them okay. just my two cents on that one. What is that player of "don't interact with me" Gankplank?
You one trick Irelia, a hard counter of GP, and think you can type anything of relevance here. Good one buddy! Know what's great? Pantheon, Jayce, Kennen, Irelia, Riven, and Darius beat GP into the ground. Even if you don't kill him, you force him into building Steraks Gage before completing Trinity Force just so he can survive in lane and farm. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. But please tell me how GP can't be interacted with when his barrel recharge is 18 seconds and they last for 25 seconds. Meanwhile you can reset your toxic fucking Q 4 different ways and out trade anyone level 3 with your bullshit passive, 50% damage reduction channel that is uninterruptable, and 200 auto attack range for whatever the fuck reason.
Jamaree (NA)
: I beat her all the time as Illaoi, pretty easy all things consider and I still heavily prefer this version compared to her old one. You can bait out abilities, dodge her skill shots and if she shrouds just back up as opposed to her old “have the stats to survive my level six burst or you die” kit.
One oppressively bullshit champion beating another oppressively bullshit champion doesn't make either of them okay. just my two cents on that one.
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DeusVult (NA)
: Morde is going to have 69 AD at level 1
: It is their choice to ban no one if they want to. Besides, you can't ban all the broken champs or the pens that might counter you. You will have to fight them eventually, better to lean how to fight them than avoid the issue forever.
then go play blind pick if you don't want to ban champions. not only do you not have to ban anyone, you get into game faster and you're guaranteed to play whatever champion you want since either team can have the same champions! literally the only reason to queue up for Draft is to be able to ban out stupid champs that no one wants to play against (Akali, Sylas, Kindred, Hecarim, Draven, Ryze, Yuumi, etc). It sure is their choice to ban no one, but know that it tilts the everloving fuck out of everyone on their team and it makes everyone on the enemy team rejoice knowing that there is one idiot on the enemy team. So as I said before, if someone chooses to not ban someone, then another teammate should randomly be assigned that ban. There is Draft pick and Blind pick for a reason. The ONLY time it is ever okay to not ban champs is because you're a fucking pro and need to learn all matchups. That is absolutely the only reason. And maybe if Riot Games actually gave a flying fuck about balancing this game, I wouldn't argue that there should be more like 20-30 bans total.
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