: > [{quoted}](name=Elysane,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=NqNmpvTj,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-13T08:24:11.620+0000) > > this one made me poof hard . https://pics.onsizzle.com/your-team-a-bad-yasuo-a-bad-yasuo-youre-all-12300331.png
https://m.imgur.com/a/ilvOv This kill led to a Penta. I was sooo happy..
: > [{quoted}](name=Cinquino Show,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=oRr2sEET,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-06T23:09:15.214+0000) > > Do people really get that angry over reading "ez"? The problem I have with it is that it's a sign of disrespect, it's like if Michael Phelps had just won his Olympic Medals then looks directly over to you sitting with your head in your hands trying to grasp what happened and then shouts out GG EZ and you wonder why you put in the effort to do anything. I guess it's demoralizing, like if when you're doing something you love, or even just like to do and someone criticizes it by saying ha I did it better and nothing you spent the last half an hour means anything. To me these games are meant to be fun and enjoyable, and sometimes I get that rush when both teams feel so evenly matched and every advantage is something that you and your team worked hard to achieve and so what if you lose you felt as if the enemy team deserved that win and you didn't feel bad about losing because it was a good game a great game against peers. But then one person, goes into all chat and says GG EZ all the expectations that you had that the other team respected your time and your effort just blows away like ashes in the wind and something inside of you breaks a bit more and you lose all of that energy that you had.
And it's even more annoying when it's just like the pic above. That one guy you shit stomped all of laning phase then his team dragged his ass back into the game and they win. And then the ones that are EVEN WORSE is the enemy support Teemo that fed all game but his team managed to win and he's like "Lol that's what you get for focusing the Teemo! Baited. Haha so ez"
: I do have one huge gripe with this game mode though and that is Miss Fortune and lucian will probably have the strongest start among the champions at level 6 due to lethality since lucians ult can't be interrupted by knockback's and such and miss fortune might be able to burst someone or do a heck of a lot of damage before the enemy can get out or push her back.
That's largely why I don't get Quinns absence. Her synergy with leathality can't be so absurdly over powered as to auto win. They're plenty of adcs that can go toe to toe with her and some that will be downright way better in the mode. Theres a big reason why Quinn goes too and it's because she's never been able to compete in the bot Lane. So she went too vs melee where she actually stands a chance to be relevant.
Pika310 (NA)
: Rito doesn't consider Quinn an ADC, because matter-of-fact,** she is not an ADC.** Never has been and never will be with her current kit. Actually, it's about fucking time they admitted this. I just wish they'd abandoned their misguided & misdesigned attempts of making her one before she was gutted in patch 5.20. Before they put Valor on a spit roast and played dumb when we asked where he'd gone and who this "Valet" bird who replaced him is. In short, what I'm saying is: **#FreeMyHomeyValor #Revert520**
We all miss Valor. Q&V were stripped of their 2 in 1 champ style and and Valor turned into a damn taxi.
: {{champion:150}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:126}} and {{champion:85}} are missing too.
I don't think any of those have ever been considered or played like actually adcs. They basically fall under the same category as teemo. Ranged dps but but very rare to see one played like tristana for example.
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Kídá (NA)
: I for one, would like to have alternatives for morellonomicon and void staff
That would require {{item:3165}} to not give every damn stat a mage could ever want. I swear that item is a major issue for the mage class just because it offers a heavy dose of everything. Second highest base ap- check (second to Dcap and starts off better than RoA AND Seraphs pre completion) Highest base CDR- check Mana- check Mana regen- check Oh, and a solid secondary passive in Grieves Wounds. More on topic though, I'd love them to add that lost chapters lineup from Black Market Brawlers.
ReiAngel (NA)
: I'll remember this as I continue my climb!! :D {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
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Lit Corn (EUW)
: Zed's death mark is the most satisfying , you know the ennemy is dead and you can peacefuly go away . Its not techincally an execute ultimate tho but one of the most satisfying spell in the game
That feeling of room when you see the shurikan floating above you with no heal,barrier, or Ally around to save you ._____.
Kloqdq (NA)
: This is super difficult to pick. Darius, Garen, Urgot, Evelynn and Veigar easily have the best ones in the game but it's so hard to pick. If I had to pick one though, I'd probably go with Veigar I think. His ultimate is just such a blast :D
It really is a tough choice. Get one with Darius? Might as well go for another! Garen sending shockwaves on screen as he smites scum of the rift. Knowing those chains are wrapping around your opponents screen as Urgot. Even better when you blind tired over the wall they "escaped" over. When the enemy thinks they just won a dual and are recalling under turret then BOOM your Jinx ults avenges your teammate from across map. And yes, definitely Veigar. When you hit that point where'll you need is R to decimate that pesky ADC or even to wipe out that mega tank that refuses to die.
Mhihnj (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=IGotScuttleCrabs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ib5pm1Zd,comment-id=00030000000200000000,timestamp=2017-10-28T22:11:46.665+0000) > > That magic damage passive though... It does magic damage equal to a percent of enemy's maximum hp. It doesn't scale with AP
> [{quoted}](name=Mhihnj,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ib5pm1Zd,comment-id=000300000002000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-29T01:16:29.320+0000) > > It does magic damage equal to a percent of enemy's maximum hp. It doesn't scale with AP Was a joke. Although {{item:3001}} {{item:3068}} {{item:3075}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3091}} {{item:3087}} would be a pretty funny "I'm gonna do magic damage Zed build"
Mhihnj (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=shicky97,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ib5pm1Zd,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2017-10-27T18:34:54.804+0000) > > I did ultimate bravery and got graves with a full AP build once. I had a blast launching out those nuclear smoke grenades. i am talking about stuff like full ap zed, who has 0 AP scalings.
> [{quoted}](name=Mhihnj,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ib5pm1Zd,comment-id=0003000000020000,timestamp=2017-10-28T03:03:32.513+0000) > > i am talking about stuff like full ap zed, who has 0 AP scalings. That magic damage passive though...
Sandixcx (NA)
: I think it's because riot wants her to use her stealth as her gapcloser, like sneaking up on someone from behind where they can't escape. If she had an actual gapcloser, then it'd be broken with her stealth and charm. Just imagine someone jumping at you from invis with no counterplay because she charmed you from fog of war.
Except thats shit engage if they have the side where you'd have to walk under tower to come from behind due to the massive detection range or if they're playing even remotely safe and/or have a dash/disengage of sorts.
Mcsquzzy (NA)
: gg adc meta over back to tank meta guys
I'd welcome that. People make fun of tank slap fights but honestly they're more entertaining than the 3 shot metas
: I like ornn's ult and w. Just wish the q would come up faster.
: Q: Scales with AD W: Scales with health(the shield) E: Scales with resistances R: Scales with AP Rito pls
That’s my biggest beef with him. Ok I get it, they want him to build tank. But seriously, would it be so bad to focus his scaling on only 2 types rather than 4??? That’s insane. I typically like my toplane tanks with RoA. Not over the top amount of AP or defenses but just enough to help you survive early and provide some damage which Ornn and his delayed non-reliable cc could seriously use. Or even if steraks, black cleaver, or titanic where better options would be nice.
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Destaice (NA)
: I mean people are always aware of Morde's shield. The issue is that you really couldn't calculate how much damage would be absorbed by that shield. Is it going to absorb 100 damage or 300? You act as if Morde shouldn't have clarity.
I mean people are always aware of Annie’s stun . The issue is that you really couldn't calculate how many spells until she could stun (unless you clicked her and looked at icon). Is it going to stun in 1 or 3 abilities? You act as if Annie shouldn't have clarity. She did need clarity. And she got it. Seems fair that Morde does too. Yes it’s unfortunate that Morde is as handicapped as he is atm due to no cc/mobility melee but that should exempt him from clarity.
: Are we talking Old French cenobite, Hellraiser cenobite, or Grand Cenobite Elesh Norn?
: > [{quoted}](name=Grizzlpaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qXEZaBrf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:53:39.979+0000) > > {{champion:516}} actually isn't that durable. He just builds tank and has butt loads of CC. Yea i woud just love to build him damage, but his has almost no ap ratios.
I loaded right into practice mode with him and was so confused i barely nuked the adc bot with full ap items. Then noticed his kit scales on just about every item type >.> If i remember right it was like Q- AD W- HP E-Armor/MR R-AP some shit like that. Was so annoyed. Im the guys that loves the RoA rush on toplane tanks like Naut and Mao. It just doesn't work for Ornn {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Proxy345 (NA)
: There should be no reason for me to feel the need to sleep in a freezer during the fall season lol
> [{quoted}](name=Proxy345,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EiBALATU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-24T20:25:31.593+0000) > > There should be no reason for me to feel the need to sleep in a freezer during the fall season lol Live on the east coast? Was high 80's/low 90's today. Was literally at the beach and it was packed with people out tanning.
: How make the emote system fail at release:
Like I said in a previous comment. I agree they're a bit high. 350 seems fair to me. I'm just tired of all the people wanting everything free. They gotta pay the bills like every company. Yes, they are definitely making very good profits and don't need to be greedy. But I don't think they're being that bad at all. They make tons of money because of their massive player base. And they deserve it. So if they want to charge a reasonable fee for the extra content in their free game I thinks it totally fair.
: > [{quoted}](name=IGotScuttleCrabs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=0009000100010000,timestamp=2017-09-22T04:49:53.509+0000) > > Be real, most people will buy 1 maybe 2. Most likely only if it's their favorite champion. Just like icons. How often do people really change them? Almost never unless they just like to show off the newest one they got in an event. They have to charge something reasonable for it to be worth their time. Not to mention they aren't getting that full $3.46. A piece of that is lost in the transaction as well as taxes. Lastly, its a luxury feature. The game is free. Skins, emotes, icons, etc are what pay the bills. They plan on making more of these and you can sell them in bundles or theme them Since most of them are based on champions we'll likely see more based on skins Even if its not the same artstyle I could see things like {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} being made as emotes There's going to be tons of them to sink leftover RP on, they don't have to be priced as a Luxury when even at a cheaper price the only ones who'll buy every emote will be whales anyway
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=00090001000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-22T04:53:17.243+0000) > > They plan on making more of these and you can sell them in bundles or theme them > > Since most of them are based on champions we'll likely see more based on skins > > Even if its not the same artstyle I could see things like {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} being made as emotes > > There's going to be tons of them to sink leftover RP on, they don't have to be priced as a Luxury when even at a cheaper price the only ones who'll buy every emote will be whales anyway I do agree that 450 might be a bit high. 350 sounds like a sweet spot. Im just annoyed how everyone wants everything free in this game or practically free. Free emotes. Free icons. Free chromas. Free skins. They want everything to be buyable with LP, or able to get in their free chests.
: Riot Greed Blizzard gives that kind of stuff for free just as an FYI
> [{quoted}](name=The MechE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2017-09-22T04:52:48.176+0000) > > Riot Greed > > Blizzard gives that kind of stuff for free just as an FYI Don't you also pay to play most blizzard games?
: > [{quoted}](name=IGotScuttleCrabs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=00090001,timestamp=2017-09-21T21:10:27.297+0000) > > Riot definitely shouldn’t make money on they things they work on. > {{sticker:poppy-wink}} The problem imo isn't that they cost money. I'm sure they had to do some programming and the artists who worked on them did great but 450 rp is just a bit much.
> [{quoted}](name=Vape Naysh YalI,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=000900010001,timestamp=2017-09-21T21:47:08.536+0000) > > The problem imo isn't that they cost money. I'm sure they had to do some programming and the artists who worked on them did great but 450 rp is just a bit much. > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=000900010000,timestamp=2017-09-21T21:20:33.045+0000) > > It's $3.46 per emote. And the emotes are just a ping wheel to show off an emote over your head. They took an existing system they've used many times (mastery/event emotes), added a selection wheel, and then decided to charge exuberant amounts of money for them. > > It makes as much sense as the pricing cost of Summoner Icons being $1.92 despite being a single, rarely seen icon that took very little effort to make. Be real, most people will buy 1 maybe 2. Most likely only if it's their favorite champion. Just like icons. How often do people really change them? Almost never unless they just like to show off the newest one they got in an event. They have to charge something reasonable for it to be worth their time. Not to mention they aren't getting that full $3.46. A piece of that is lost in the transaction as well as taxes. Lastly, its a luxury feature. The game is free. Skins, emotes, icons, etc are what pay the bills.
: I think this is a good point because it just reinforces the issue. Non-lethality ADCs pretty much need IE as the first or second finished item. Depends if you are going to sit on the BF sword and finish your shiv first or not. IE is good enough not only to be purchased on its own, but to also be rushed. Deathcap, despite having a similar damage amp, is never rushed. The AP rush item is {{item:3165}}, which gives AP, Mana, CDR, and conditional grievous and mana recovery but no damage amp. I think that alone should be the biggest clue that AP in relation to AD is a terrible stat in terms of dealing damage. If that weren't the case deathcap, which gives you 162 AP if you rush it first, would be much more popular. IE only gives you 250% AA damage 20% of the time in comparison, yet it is a commonly rushed item. So my answer to the OP is AP items suck right now because AP itself sucks right now.
AD is great because every time you buy is like yay I got more of the stats I want plus a passive and this item just made my other items better. The stats just keep multiplying. Meanwhile AP is just “k got more flat AP and another passive”. I feel AP could benefit from more scaling either through items or base stats.
: Having to pay for them is a stupid as hell greedy move
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pr1Kq51W,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-09-21T21:07:13.609+0000) > > Having to pay for them is a stupid as hell greedy move Riot definitely shouldn’t make money on they things they work on. {{sticker:poppy-wink}}
: AD itemization is so diverse that AD champs have an answer to most, if not all situations. Mages, unfortunately don't really have that luxury. AP itemization is so bad, that people tend to overlook how overloaded Morello truly is. I feel like if they were to remove any of Morello's stats, they would have to make a whole new item to make up for that lost stat.
Exactly. It's go like 1/5 of most mages end game ap. Half their cdr. Ends their mana troubles. And a pretty decent passive.
Tempist (NA)
: A mage can purchase {{item:3165}} for 2900 and have kill pressure. An AD caster or assassin can simply get {{item:3134}} for 1100, or {{item:3147}} for 2900 and have kill pressure. Keep in mind, that is pressure in lane and in roams. You are a champion at 2900 gold. Tank items are also cheap, with something like {{item:3025}} costing 2700. An ADC requires {{item:3087}} + {{item:3031}} for 6000 to become a champion. Until that point, those other classes are more than capable of going bot and destroying a carry. And even afterwards, carries have to decide between {{item:3036}} and {{item:3094}} depending upon whether they want to hurt tanks or everyone else. It's not just a matter of cost.
{{item:3165}} this item needs to go. No item should be an answer to all the things a class needs. {{item:3134}} line, yes. You have kill pressure but typically only vs 1 person due to cool downs. I feel the only right thing in ADC itemization is that they're required 2 items to spike. Issue is just how great that spike is compared to most. Proper position or protection means that 2 item adc can clear the field. Mages come close with how strong {{item:3165}} is and giving them all the stats they want but they still have cool downs. Unless you're someone like Brand or VelKoz with the enemy standing on top of each other; you're not clearing the whole team or even half fit probably.
: Nerf anti splitpushing effects too btw Besides that being a compensation buff, splitpushing sucks right now.
I disagree. Unless they rework Trynd. Had a game where jungle trynd waited till midgame then just split. He'd take a tower before we could even reach him because they're so shit at protecting themselves. I know he's a outside case thats only annoying in low elo but i still stand by my opinion.
: only late game though
You forgot the /S at the end of that.
: why not have it build out of {{item:1026}} and{{item:1058}} instead?
I wouldn't mind if Deathcap just combined out of two NLR +gold.
: Pennywise is what Shaco should be.
If they really wanted Shaco to have a Pennywise influence they could give him a scaling power based on kills/assist. The more "fear" he's caused the stronger he gets. I know this has caused issues with Kindred though. Perhaps he can lose stacks when he dies but to reduce the chance of being shutdown so hard he's out he wouldn't fall below (x) amount. Example: Shaco gain x power for each kill and assist. After gaining 1 stack he can't gain another for 60 seconds (to prevent things like shiv/tiamat and a good team fight from giving him a ton of stacks). Upon death he losses 2 stacks but can't fall below 5. Edit: I'd also give him a timer before he can gain a stack on the same person again. Like how kindred can't just farm stacks on 1 person.
: i think you mean as useless as {{champion:56}} like i mean i love noc and all but why the fuck pick him
I play him top. Mostly full lethality and it works wonders (in silver)
Terozu (NA)
: YAAAAAAAAAAAY
https://imgur.com/bDrSaLc https://imgur.com/BsRKlmY DJ Sona Red Baron Corki Nightbringer Yas Deep Sea Nami Sweetheart Ori. And several other legacy skins. Sadly(?) I don't want any of them enough to justify selling the others for.
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: The two stacks was a bug. Says it right at the top of the thread.
> [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4AwQWrlE,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-08-09T22:34:52.425+0000) > > For starters, we know her Q proccing W on two autos was a bug.
: ***
The two stacks was a bug. Says it right at the top of the thread.
: Yeah, I'm not satisfied with my life..... but thankfully I'm not as pathetic as to make up tales about how great things are going. Look, buddy, I'm sorry, but it _shows_ that you're really pushing it to show how lucky you are. Which means you aren't lucky, and can't accept it. Now to get back on topic, facts are facts: game length requires more time, not everyone has always has 1 hour of constant time for a single videogame match.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Whatever dude. You enjoy your life if you can and I'll enjoy mine.
BØLT (NA)
: Champion's reactions to learning Ornn breaks their walls
: I'm personally fine with it. It's about fucking time tenacity got use again.
Tenaciwhat. You mean. That thing on Mercs and an elixer? The thing that does nothing vs knock ups/backs, displacements, etc. The cc type that is almost uncounterable. Oh and the guy brings that type of cc. Yea, we need more tenacity options and a way for it to work on all cc types.
: Just a pro tip: people who describe in detail how much their life is good and they totally have everything they want...... are usually people who are only trying to convince themselves.
Pro pro tip. Telling people that they're doing something wrong with their life usually means you're not satisfied with your own and just want to bring others down to tour level. And I'll gladly counter your opinion that wanting long games or playing for a long period of time means you're doing something wrong with your life.
: I'll be blunt. _**The longer the match, the less I play the game.**_ Not everyone always has 1 hour+ of time to fully dedicate to a videogame. In fact, if you can constantly find a hour to absolutely dedicate to a match, it means you're doing something wrong with your life and you should stop and consider how come you can always find so much time for ONE videogame match. I love League, but match length is a big turnoff. After the match clocks at 30+ minutes, I start to get a little frisky. At 40+ minutes I just want it to be over. I understand this is a game mostly played by an underage demographic who still has not acquired the concept of time. When you're so young, it often feels like you have all the time of the world, and hanging out with people or studying always seem like stuff you can do later. So I'm expecting downvotes on this comment. But what can I say. Riot will ultimately do as they see fit, but there is a reason why Blizzard and other modern mobas are honing the length of the match so it doesn't feel like a chore.
Idk man. My life seems to be on a good track. Got a great paying job in data and security and I run my own job sites. Looking to start a side business as well. Live with my gf of 5 years. Kid on the way. Got pets. Live in the chaos of new Jersey and work in the madhouse of New York. It takes me up to two hours to get to work. I'm only 29 so I don't know what you consider being an adult. But I still manage 15+ games a week and have plenty to of free time to study and teach myself 3d design. And down in low elo, games still last at least 30 minutes and I wish they'd last longer. But hey, if all that means I'm doing something wrong with my life then fucking up feels pretty good. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Quindec (NA)
: its usually a {{champion:67}} who tumbles into a cc field and gets destroyed
You forgot the part where she flashed in, condemned the adc further back THEN tumbled and flashed her mastery 7 and burned heal.
: Yes she brings a lot of great assets to the team
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Naching (EUW)
: Some of you are delusional claiming nerfs after nerfs...and crying to every champ and every buff not being your main.. Even when there are nerfs it isnt enough....every topic here the same..
I'm not one to call for nerfs but id be pretty happy if every champion got nerfed just so matches are a bit longer. Power creep is getting really annoying.
: This Brand skins looks awesome. Only problem I have is that it's blue color scheme will compete with Spirit Fire Brand when I want to play a blue Brand.
Really? I thought the Brand was was kinda bad. Honestly I thought it was Ezreal for a moment due to the Q.
: I'm an adc player ;_;
That'll teach you you filthy adc player
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