: Do League players care too much about skill?
Skill wins games! Being nice is a + but at the end of the day dude, people want to win.
: I can understand not being aggressive if you are Ryze but the other game he was playing Xerath. He's not a champion who is expected to die in team fights even if they lose.
Even so, it's clear that Bjergsen just isn't that "good" as he thinks he is. He plays so passively in both NA and at International tournaments that the other MId can pretty much sit back and just play passive themselves and cancel out TSM's #1 option that gets pretty much every resource(TSM jungler = ward bot), blues, ganks etc and scale up themselves. IF Bjergsen/TSM want to actually do something than Bjergsen NEEDS to actually be aggressive like he was back in 2013 and not this passive mid that slowly loses. Yes, he wins NA pretty much every split but does that really mean anything these days where NA finishes bottom to every "big boy" tournament?
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: 2018 Ranked Placements Venting post!
1. Why do we start like 4-5 divisions lower than what we were last year for the most part? Don't we all love to graduate 9th grade(Silver X) only to be placed in 6th grade(Bronze) for no reason right the next year? 2. After placements winning is EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!! but not during placements???? 3. Raging, toxicity and overall just being a little bitch is kinda rewarded in some way..... I mean look at Tyler 1 and how much pull he has within League and Riot.
: setting NA back 2 hours is beyond dumb as fuck. now games wont get over until 10 or later depending on game length. if anything it should be moved up to 2 hours. fuck EU fans that want to watch NA... really we had two separate streams for NA teams last year but we have to worry about EU fans not being able to watch NA is beyond ridiculous.
That was something that I touched on and I got more than an earful from everyone on these boards about having NA/EU 2 separate streams if such games intersect with one another. As you pointed out I too don't understand why NA/EU fans has to wait for the other region to finish up with their games before the start of another REGION broadcast to begin. It makes 0 sense logically. Or better yet why not have EU play on two separate days and vice versa for NA?
: So, in short, you're agreeing that Xpecial is a better Supp?
: My only problem with this is that by the end of the season it's not gonna be Golden Guardians Matt, It's gonna be Golden Guardians Xpecial...... Well, not my only problem, but the only one i care to say.
Xpecial has been producing some great games and stats to go along such games, while Matt has been that guy that dies constantly throughout his career. Matt has been in some of the shortest games within TL around that 29-30 min mark while Xpecial has been in some of the longer games and has some top 20 longest games to show for it(Curse 2014) and yet, Matt is head n shoulders ahead of Xpecail in deaths as well as having the same average amount of kills even with better and more talented ADC's + shorter games.
: How do you even come up with random stats...
Not that you care I'm sure but this is the more updated stats btw/fyi 1.TEAM SOLOMID 14-4 HAUNTZER 55-52-129-5074 MIKEYEUNG 41-45-151-2892 BJERGSEN 97-50-111-6124 ZVEN 78-40-123-6258 MITHY 20-62-208-602 7.7Towers 5.2 Towers lost 2.32 Dragons 0.855 Barons 2.COUNTER LOGIC GAMING 12-6 DARSHAN 71-58-121-5171 REINGOVER 47-55-139-3054 HUHI 83-71-132-5866 STIXXAY 102-51-115-6265 BIOFROST 12-58-205-490 6.9 Towers 6.4 Towers lost 2.01 Dragons 0.797 Barons 3.TEAM LIQUID 11-7 IMPACT 45-42-130-5168 XMITHIE 35-54-153-2994 POBELTER 76-46-119-5891 DOUBLELIFT 101-28-100-6115 OLLEH 13-54-190-689 7.6 Towers 5.5 Towers lost 2.27 Dragons 0.845 Barons 4.CLUTCH GAMING 11-7 SOLO 46-62-74-5291 LIRA 53-63-134-3494 FEBIVEN 82-39-105-6111 APOLLO 64-47-120-6099 HAKUHO 18-44-179-662 6.4 Towers 6.2 Towers lost 2.13 Dragons 0.769 Barons 5.ECHO FOX 10-6 HUNI 66-58-134-4954 DARDOCH 50-39-160-3210 FENIX 79-41-115-6068 ALTEC 84-38-110-5861 ADRIAN 12-42-205-544 7.2 Towers 6.3 Towers lost 2.03 Dragons 0.930 Barons 6.CLOUD 9 9-9 LICORICE 28-61-149-5521 SVENSKEREN 46-57-167-2821 JENSEN 101-44-95-6461 SNEAKY 92-39-115-5915 SMOOTHIE 27-58-184-546 7.3 Towers 5.8 Towers lost 1.81 Dragons 0.757 Barons 7.100 THIEVES 7-11 SSUMDAY 51-53-121-5607 METEOS/LEVI 48-65-150-3283 RYU 69-47-102-5892 CODY SUN 78-46-95-5711 APHROMOO 17-59-158-546 6.1 Towers 6.8 Towers lost 1.85 Dragons 0.665 Barons 8.GOLDEN GUARDIANS 5-13 LOURLO 51-72-101-5137 CONTRACTZ 42-71-114-3126 HAI 76-54-95-4921 DEFTLY 60-57-89-4936 MATT 11-89-153-485 6.3 Towers 6.7 Towers lost 1.86 Dragons 0.635 Barons 9.OPTIC GAMING 5-13 ZIG 51-68-150-5121 AKAADIAN 49-55-150-3426 POWEROFEVIL 70-53-128-5891 ARROW 92-60-102-5766 LEMONATION 6-67-189-545 6.7 Towers 6.3 Towers lost 1.93 Dragons 0.750 Barons 10.FLYQUEST 4-14 FLAME 52-61-97-5316 ANDA 43-58-121-2774 FLY 66-63-91-5666 WILDTURTLE 74-48-81-5484 STUNT 9-62-153-401 6.0 Towers 7.5 Towers lost 1.47 Dragons 0.775 Barons
: How do you even come up with random stats...
Not 100% "random". I first do up a full list of schedule: for example, TSM vs CLG, TSM vs CLG, TSM vs FQ, TSM vs FQ etc and same for the other teams until all 10 teams have played each other twice. I then average up the players' all time stats for example: I then avg certain players all time averages + last split + how I think the meta will be in which(2018 Spring Split looks to be a very fast paced split with lots of kills and less focus on objectives(Dragons, barons etc) and I try to find certain teams that are similiar to the current teams and average thoses players' stats and .............................. bam! Games Played - KILLS - DEATHS - ASSISTS - CS - NAME For example - 300(GMS) 904(Kills) 796(deaths) 1,536(Assists) 75,740(CS) Darshan(Name) TOP - Leaders in Kills 300 904-796-1,536 75,740 Darshan 277 552-601-1,372 59,503 Balls 184 532-452-1,203 50,877 Hauntzer 111 416-310-646 30,677 Voyboy 87 395-297-708 21,893 Huni 162 372-397-1,176 40,844 Impact 148 366-336-984 38,049 Dyrus 179 352-545-981 52,555 Seraph 95 339-282-546 27,275 Nien 137 329-393-824 35,102 Quas 152 321-323-792 41,219 Lourlo 95 225-195-527 29,345 Ssumday 70 210-221-400 20,472 Ray 125 210-344-683 32,817 Zig 89 208-218-504 26,406 Flame 72 145-226-375 20,849 Looper JNG - Leaders in Assists 275 615-777-1,998 41,888 Xmithie 239 646-736-1,667 33,091 Svenskeren 179 456-307-1,369 26,790 Meteos 165 500-454-1,251 27,649 Reignover 133 244-422-962 17,427 Crumbzz 142 461-415-902 22,860 Dardoch 82 146-272-729 10,318 Saint 95 204-240-711 13,003 IWD 89 277-234-629 15,280 Contractz 91 223-210-602 22,731 Oddone 55 163-151-472 7,101 Rush 88 265-207-448 17,956 Lira 65 195-174-353 10,153 Inori MID - Leaders in Kills 284 1,355-565-1,664 88,552 Bjergsen 278 1,070-615-1,435 92,786 Froggen 170 824-325-916 57,423 Jensen 215 821-532-1,287 65,282 Pobelter 217 770-651-1,433 55,902 Hai 150 623-283-853 47,142 Febiven 149 609-400-802 44,706 Huhi 149 605-347-708 47,271 PowerofEvil 165 602-365-830 49,776 Ryu 178 597-404-942 55,917 Keane 139 519-264-620 41,705 Shiphtur 128 479-309-771 34,238 Link 99 387-224-551 32,852 Fenix 101 328-315-502 33,431 Ninja 82 321-227-453 20,618 Scarra 62 247-133-372 21,887 Xiaowiexiao 73 211-209-364 22,200 Goldenglue ADC - Leaders in Kills 285 1,224-662-1,573 87,336 WIldturtle 261 1,199-594-1,419 81,731 Doublelift 273 1,114-344-1,657 82,403 Sneaky 216 684-463-1,169 68,449 Apollo 152 606-293-736 47,797 Altec 130 581-223-722 39,900 Cop 152 560-339-828 46,960 Stixxay 185 544-378-808 56,736 Mash 150 539-354-748 46,703 Piglet 138 530-208-700 47,251 Zven 112 455-245-645 33,039 Imaqtpie 140 370-366-600 41,926 Keith 112 334-224-587 36,096 Lod 88 307-181-498 28,475 Cody Sun 87 292-181-501 25,947 Arrow SUP - Leaders in Assists 270 192-733-2,519 9,378 Xpecial 272 200-754-2,430 6,843 Aphromoo 209 175-608-1,826 6,548 LEMON 151 96-347-1,543 3,799 Adrian 208 304-648-1,444 17,371 Kiwikid 156 92-351-1,349 5,292 Mithy 129 96-241-1,277 4,009 Biofrost 131 112-298-1,258 3,499 Smoothie 142 100-444-1,150 3,459 Matt 145 124-350-1,070 5,306 Hakuho 150 147-481-986 7,218 Gate 89 108-232-736 3,392 Olleh 94 48-278-558 2,342 Big
: 10 Players to Watch: "The dream for Svenskeren is to steal Baron in a deciding Game 5 over TSM to lift C9. That way TSM fans can blame him one last time for a loss."
A player that should have been on the list is Sneaky in which for the bulk of his career he played a very support-like-ADC only being aggressive in team-fights around the 40 min mark to win/lose the game in such aggressive actions but after the 2017 Summer Playoffs, he actually became very aggressive early and often. It's going to be interesting if he's able to sustain such aggression throughout the split. Jensen has led the NA LCS in kills what the last 3 splits? With mid becoming even more competitive(POE, Febiven, Fly etc) it's going to be tough seeing Jensen able to get such kills as he did before earlier in his career. However, when the competition rises so does the players(exception TSM)! You could make a case for Sneaky, Jensen, Reignover, Dardoch etc to be on such list but that shows you just how competitive and interesting this split should be!(Until TSM wins/competes in yet another NA Finals........only to represent NA at MSI and/or get the easier(1st-2nd) group at Worlds only to get destroyed for the 4th year in a row?!?!
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=h1tEpxjL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-08T01:22:15.301+0000) > > 1.So you get better on such champions > > 2.Honestly it's hit n miss mainly because it does take Riot years sometimes to actually do what we want them to do but at the same time, Riot is one of the few games that has patches for League and in which they can easily be like Call of Duty and just produce a new game every 5-6 months for $. > > 3.? IDK what you mean > > 4.The game is a (Kill happy/easier) type of game because for years people have been complaining that their teammates sucking, they can't escape "elo hell" etc and how games are too long, boring etc. So, Riot did the complete opposite of what people were complaining about. > > 5.I honestly agree with the whole Runes and Masteries statement. > > > " League of Rito is peaking and will soon be on the decline, it's not a matter of if, but when. Because history always repeats itself I can personally guarantee the end of riot and the start of something else, in time. All we can hope is that the next game is better and more rounded than the last, but again, sadly history has a way of repeating itself". > > Not really being a prophet with that statement since what does go up most come down and Riot/League will someday end and Riot themselves already know that and hence why they've started making a new game in development. The real interesting part is how E-Sports/League/Riot could potentially run the competitive side of sports in the near future with how the NFL will most likely be dead within 2023 and the NBA potentially doing the same in due time. > > > > "I've stopped paying for anything Riot has to offer me" > - Like what? > > Hope the best for you in whatever decision/road that you go down. 1. You should not have to play around the meta, that is not how balance works. That is a fotm cycle.
Most players in solo Q don't even play "meta" champions from my games(Bronze-Silver elo), the point is you don't have to play "meta" champions. Any way you slice it there will always be champions that are better/stronger with such items that benefit from their abilities and skills. Look at streamers in high elos where they don't follow the meta but instead plays their favorite champions(Renekton main, Wukong main, Draven, Udyr,) etc etc. There isn't a way for Riot to actually balance everything for everyone, it's impossible!
: Why I've decided this game is garbage
1.So you get better on such champions 2.Honestly it's hit n miss mainly because it does take Riot years sometimes to actually do what we want them to do but at the same time, Riot is one of the few games that has patches for League and in which they can easily be like Call of Duty and just produce a new game every 5-6 months for $. 3.? IDK what you mean 4.The game is a (Kill happy/easier) type of game because for years people have been complaining that their teammates sucking, they can't escape "elo hell" etc and how games are too long, boring etc. So, Riot did the complete opposite of what people were complaining about. 5.I honestly agree with the whole Runes and Masteries statement. " League of Rito is peaking and will soon be on the decline, it's not a matter of if, but when. Because history always repeats itself I can personally guarantee the end of riot and the start of something else, in time. All we can hope is that the next game is better and more rounded than the last, but again, sadly history has a way of repeating itself". Not really being a prophet with that statement since what does go up most come down and Riot/League will someday end and Riot themselves already know that and hence why they've started making a new game in development. The real interesting part is how E-Sports/League/Riot could potentially run the competitive side of sports in the near future with how the NFL will most likely be dead within 2023 and the NBA potentially doing the same in due time. "I've stopped paying for anything Riot has to offer me" - Like what? Hope the best for you in whatever decision/road that you go down.
MysterQ (NA)
: I would agree with that. That is why I didn't expect anything from TSM this year and I was right (despite the fans' tears). But because they keep losing in a tiebreak, I think it is still fair to say they choke. Flat-out getting 4th would be losing, constantly getting tied for 2nd and losing seems more like choking.
That's true and TSM does have a broad history of choking when it matters most and that's why I personally didn't want anyone to vote for any TSM member at All-Stars(Fun tournament or not) Hauntzer and Bjergsen didn't deserve to go in my opinion. TSM has a great 5 man roster and while they (COULD) do something this year I personally hope they don't make it to Worlds but instead gives 1 of the 3 spots that NA has to a different team that might/could/most likely will do better than them.
MysterQ (NA)
: Cause NA chokes.
Which is becoming a real interesting topic since we all know that NA just isn't near LCK's level or the other regions and mathematically should be better than EU(talent, hype etc) but it seems NA does indeed "choke" at international events. My question is if we do indeed say NA " choke again" is it really choking when we already know the answer/outcome of such NA results on such tournaments?
: game is trash
CLG ear (NA)
: piglet joining Clutch Gaming academy team
: Please address this. Still an issue. Side note: When a player declines, why not just accept the next person in the queue who fits the criteria?
1. There shouldn't even be a "decline" option if you're going to decline a game you would just need to not hit the accept. and 2. What's the point in addressing this to Riot when they do what they want when they want to begin with?
Ekitaih (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AxJNFzbE,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-25T10:23:14.592+0000) > > Better thank Santa. lol Or my wife. XD
Nah, dude, your wife got you those pair of socks(points to them) Santa got you that Playstation VR. lol On the real tho, I wish you and the Mrs. A Merry Christmas
Ekitaih (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AxJNFzbE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-25T09:13:15.881+0000) > > I&#x27;m glad to hear it ;] Yup! Got Playstation VR. <3 So excited.
Ekitaih (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AxJNFzbE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-25T09:02:08.340+0000) > > Merry Christmas and have a great day full of joy, laughter, and cookies. Appreciate it! You as well. It's been a good day already. <3
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ucWqy5XK,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-12-25T08:58:59.067+0000) > > &quot;Yule&quot; That&#x27;s like cutting down a tree or finding X tree or something? Kinda like Easter but without eggs it&#x27;s with a tree during Christmas? Find the biggest log you can to burn and get wasted Does that sum it up well enough for you?
Huh, sounds interesting. ( The more you know) Thanks for the info and Merry Christmas
Ekitaih (NA)
: Merry Christmas happy holidays guys. <3
Merry Christmas and have a great day full of joy, laughter, and cookies.
: Happy Yule everyone I mean you likely still have a yule tree set up.
"Yule" That's like cutting down a tree or finding X tree or something? Kinda like Easter but without eggs it's with a tree during Christmas?
: MERRY CHRISTMAS!
: Merry Christmas
"Merry Christmas" I'm offended by that! JK, I know what you mean as I don't care what the title says but what it represents instead. Merry Christmas to you and hope all is well with you and your family.
: I believe we're testing the impact of removing it -- it's still accessible through URLs, searches, etc, but it's not featured on the sidebar right now. It was, typically, a VERY low use board.
I think removing the E-Sports is honestly a bad idea and would differently piss me off personally as I've spent more than 3 years on the damn thing posting information/stats/predictions etc that it seems Riot personally can't do since most of the content on such board is actually kept up-to-date by fans of the LCS(You know what is being franchised and needs as much support possible) so, eliminating such board will honestly and most likely eliminate a decent amount of fans. Or maybe this is a move so fans have to go to ESPN, Yahoo E-Sports etc so the franchises/sports that I'm predicting will be absolute within the next 5 years(NFL mainly) can get their $ as they are partners with Riot/teams within the LCS. Please don't remove the one board that doesn't have the same stuff posted 300 hundred times "GG, F-YOU RIOT, My team, Surrender at 20" etc etc etc but instead has a strong community of people who cares, loves and are actually really smart people with their own views and sense of professional league of lego! -Merry Christmas
: I too am adept at puking numbers.
Good, I thought I was alone
Cöup (NA)
: Olleh has had success in every region he has played in. He finds most success with engage/ pick supports.
He also has a history and often criticised for being unprofessional and having a bad work ethic to boot. Very thin champion pool is the only thing about Olleh(in game) that I worry about. If teams ban Morg and Lulu but not play such champions themselves then I see Olleh being the original Adrian before he was Adrian himself with his 1 dimensional AP support champions and with such meta changing from tank top to more AD bruiser is another thing that scares me about Olleh and TL. However, things should be ok.......
Cöup (NA)
: I'm going to dispute pretty much every region but lck, na. I'm going with RNG. Better off season moves. Uzi uses the momentum from all star to finally capture the domestic crown. Not to mention karsa. Ahq in the lms. Mostly due to the aforementioned karsa and Westdoor stepping down as mid... finally. Although jteam/ HK e-sports are dark horses. In the eu I feel this is the most wide open it's been since g2 stole the show in 2016. They lose it now. Jankos isn't enough. I'm giving the edge to fnc. Don't be surprised by s04 showing up big. Those are my thoughts.
Solid predictions and while mine was really just frustration on how each year/split seems to be the same thing over and over I too agree on a few things with you. LMS With Karsa leaving FW, Steak leaving to coach another team as well as NL being replaced for Betty a year ago, I think FW are close to done at being #1. The only problem is FW's competition seems to become weaker at the moment with Karsa not joining another LMS team and Westdoor most likely retiring and while his counterpart is good(Chawy) he seems to never really deliver when it counts. I still gotta stay with **Flash Wolves** winning the LMS yet again most likely. LPL The thing about RNG that I'm annoyed about is Firefox the coach for RNG seems to have taken the backseat to Heart a former SSB player and from his compared to Firefox's coach record as really been horrible. Heart has literally destroyed the once Worlds 2015 LGD team that was coached I believe by Firefox and turned it into a joke in the LPL. So replace a guy that took not only 1 team to Worlds but two that both really had no real business being at such tournament(LGD 2015 and IMay 2016) and replace him with Heart instead. Another thing is RNG replacing MLXG with Karsa really makes no sense as MLXG is a better jungler than Karsa in my opinion. Will RNG win the LPL? Not 100% sure honestly but if I had to say I would have to go with one of these three instead of RNG( Bilibili Gaming, Edward Gaming, and Team World Elite) Edward Gaming will most likely not figure it's roster in time and so won't win LPL 2018 Spring with Ray joining from C9 and what Clearlove might do(retire or not) as well as Iboy looking to be replaced. I gotta go with the hot hand to win the LPL and that's **Team World Elite** EU Oh god, I have no idea mainly because more than 60% of the players are either rookies, no-names or just lacking that "IT" factor to their resume. Team So4 has Nukeduck and with him, you can kiss any chance at winning EU goodbye considering he hasn't been relevant since 2012 it seems. Good group with talent but the team could implode as Nukeduck has an attitude of sorts and with SO4's coach being Krepo there could be fireworks if Nukeduck or anyone/fans etc mention Krepo's recent history. Point is this team "could" be decent. To me, EU will come down to four teams(Fnatic, G2, Splyce and a darkhorse Roccat to win the 2018 Spring Split) With Splyce accruing Nisqy from team NV, I think he will lead Splyce to the Eu Finals against........ G2 Esports and the winner will be **Splyce Gaming** NA 1...2...3...4..5...6...7...8...9...10......Why stop there...11 straight NA Finals for Team Solomid because why not! The biggest problem with TSM is honestly Bjergsen but with the recent coaching change from Parth to Ssong who coached Rox Tigers but was also a player(mid) back in the day(Najin Sword) he could potentially teach Bjergsen on how to actually win outside of NA but it will have to start with NA first. TSM will most likely face Ssong's old teammate from their Najin Sword days and that's Team Liquid's coach Cain who back in the day supported Pray(Longzhu adc). Winner of North America **Team Liquid**
Wuks (NA)
: [Spoiler Megathread] Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Beautiful move from a cinematography point of view but the writing was garbage and so were the characters and the director/s choice of doing nothing with them.
: Pre-Season NA new roster top 5 list.
Offical pre-season rankings/predictions(Likely to change before the start of the LCS) 1.TEAM SOLOMID 14-4 Hauntzer 51-48-124 MikeYeung 40-43-140 Bjergsen 96-46-105 Zven 75-36-118 Mithy 17-56-200 While TSM does have one of the better rosters in the NA LCS one has to think if this is really just a pipe-dream of sorts that won't really pay-off as they would like it to be. TSM last year was around that 35-36 mins per game and when Zven/Mithy were on G2, G2 was around the 34-35 mins per game in which I see the same happening here. Overall, TSM should have a good defense when it comes to protecting towers in my mind only losing around 5.6 towers per game while getting around 7.2 towers per game for themselves. If I had to combine two teams to equal this team besides the teams/former teams(TSM/G2) to compare it would be LMQ of 2014 and TSM of 2015 Summer where Bjergsen gets most of the side-lane farm and MikeYeung potentially being the Noname that makes costly mistakes. Bans {{champion:134}} {{champion:12}} Teams need to ban out these champions. I just don't get why teams don't ban out Syndra from Bjergsen since it's one of his biggest champions to play in all-in games and seems to pull her out when games are on the line. 2.COUNTER LOGIC GAMING 12-6 Darshan 70-55-110 Reignover 45-51-131 Huhi 76-67-127 Stixxay 94-50-105 Biofrost 11-53-189 It's no secret CLG has a better team than last year with Reignover being a huge upgrade over Omargod and BioFrost replacing an aging Aphromoo that was making mistake after mistake mainly in the lane-phase of CLG's games. This should be a fun team to watch mainly from the shotcalling point of view with Reignover most likely being the leader of the team in the voice-com department. Reignover also helped CLG when it came to the jungle side of things back in 2016 before Worlds and Xmithie had a great Worlds that year and so did CLG(going 3-3 with two #1 seeds in their group). Something that needs to be said is CLG's consistency in which Stixxay tends to get 0 kills in one game but 5-6 in the next, with 2018 being best-of-one's he and CLG need to find consistent play from its players. Bans {{champion:420}} {{champion:421}} 3.TEAM LIQUID 11-7 Impact 44-38-128 Xmithie 34-51-150 Pobelter 73-41-115 Doublelift 99-26-96 Olleh 12-49-185 CLG + IMT = TL This is a good team on paper the only problem is who will be the offensive player on the team? Impact has shown to be only ok on aggressive champions, Pobelter being meh when it comes to the aggression side of things and Doublelift being shaky in the lane phase himself for the past year. Olleh also tends to take a few of the kills himself in which in a more "damage" meta that 2018 will be he could starve out the carries on this team if he continues to take 1.07 kills per game. Bans {{champion:25}} {{champion:117}} Lets face it TL has only 1 real carry and that's D-Lift so I expect POE to play more support like mages and Impact/Olleh being tank like players themselves. Ban those out and have D-Lift trying to survive and potentially being caught out numerous times. 4.CLUTCH GAMING 11-7 Solo 44-61-113 Lira 52-62-121 Febiven 74-37-101 Apollo 60-46-110 Hakuho 18-43-164 Dark horse here for me honestly that might bite me in the a$$ but I like this roster that Clutch has, the problem is that it's pretty much NV 2.0. We know Solo is aggressive but the other players aren't so much and that can lead to being a Misfits vs G2 in the EU Finals in which CG could leave him out to dry in fights. Another thing to think about is Febiven in which he's really been quiet after his great 2015 season with Fnatic, he's much slower on the draw and with a team that has a history of being dead last in kills but first when it comes to game length(37-38 mins per game with constant 40+ games) he with NV could be the same team but with 1-2 different players. Bans {{champion:7}} {{champion:268}} Ban out Febiven's main go-to-champions and have another player like Apollo who can barely get 3 kills per game in his career to carry instead. 5.ECHO FOX 10-6 Huni 63-57-117 Dardoch 42-38-163 Fenix 75-39-106 Altec 82-35-98 Adrian 10-41-195 Toxic, aggressive, feed? 3 extremely aggressive players and 2 passive players on the bot-side in which could be a good even for a team but looking at how each of these players has kinda made their former teams stink is a big factor on why I have them 5TH but the saving grace is the talent on this team. Fenix and Altec are heavy CS players Fenix around 331.8 cs per game and Altec with 314.4 cs per game in their NA LCS careers but with Huni and Dardoch being and having a history of really fast 30 or pre 30 mins games it could stall Fenix's and Altec's cs game is causing this team to implode on their own sheer aggression. Bans {{champion:421}} {{champion:68}} Both Dardoch's and Huni's champions that are their bread and butter in which mainly for Dardoch whenever he's not playing a heavy tank jungler tends to just feed and vice versa for Huni in which ever carry top is meta just ban it out and watch the pressure go to Altec who isn't a good teamfighter or carrry himself having to carry such team. 6.CLOUD 9 9-9 Licorice 27-59-136 Svenskeren 39-53-161 Jensen 97-44-87 Sneaky 90-37-109 Smoothie 23-54-176 C9 could hit gold with the surprise and unknown factor with Licorice and the skill that Svenskeren brings to the team but I doubt it will be that great for them. An upside for C9 is the great carry potential that Sneaky has shown for the past 2 months in the regional playoffs, Worlds etc and it will be interesting moving forward if he can stay hot with also Smoothie still by his side. Will C9 let Svenskeren be Svenskeren or will they make him into a ward bot similar to what TSM did prior? My answer is no! I think C9 will honestly allow Svenskeren be similar to how Jankos plays in the EU LCS and that's counter jungling and aggressive plays that can either give C9 great leads or puts them in the dirt from such plays. Bans {{champion:13}} {{champion:61}} Gotta hit where it hurts against C9 and that's Jensen, make him feel uncomfortable and watch the frustration rise. 7.100 THIEVES 7-11 Ssumday 48-47-116 Meteos 38-62-132 Ryu 66-40-98 Cody Sun 78-43-94 Aphromoo 14-52-156 Meme team 2.0? While this team looks great on paper I have my doubts if they can actually put such talent to get them wins. NA LCS 2018 is stacked and for 100 Thieves to think they too can win from pure talent is interesting but unwise to think they can be #1 in the league with the same thought process as the other teams. Meteos and Ryu had a great tenure on P1 but other than that Ryu has fallen off each and every split since he came onto the Western scene and I see no difference here and the same can be said about Aphromoo who since 2016 Spring/MSI has taken a step backwards as far as producing to the level that is expected of him. This could be a visit to the Old Cloud 9 of the day with Meteos trying to get Balls(Ssumday) ahead early and have Ryu(Hai) helping the other lanes but if 100 does that it will be interesting because Ryu to me has to be one of the worst roaming mids I'v seen in sometime. He dies each time he even looks at the river it seems, so Cody/Aphromoo will need to do things themselves or wait till backup with TP from Ssdumday or ganks from Meteos. {{champion:25}} {{champion:412}} Make the leader and shotcaller feel as useless as possible. 8.GOLDEN GUARDIANS 5-13 Lourlo 45-71-89 Contractz 42-70-97 Hai 66-51-88 Deftly 56-56-77 Matt 11-86-137 Ah! This roster looks good and bad at the same time and while every player on this team are good they're also bad at the same time. Lourlo tends to be more useless barely getting a kill per game and tends to not know how to actually tank or create leads and even keep leads when given to him. Hai has really turned into a more of a Master Roshi player and that's about it and Matt seems to be trying to become the next Kiwikid and die constantly. The only reason I have GG #8 and not #10 is because of Locodoco and Hai's ability to pull games out of their asses. Bans {{champion:104}} {{champion:238}} People forget this but Hai is better in my opinion on aggressive AD mids than AP mids and banning his Zed in which was a pick he use to play back in the day and had great success is something teams need to think about during the pick ban phase, especailly since this team needs as much offense as they can get. Kinda Ironic Golden Guardians from the NBA's Warriors need as much offense as they can get. 9.OPTIC GAMING 5-13 Zig 49-65-149 Akaadian 46-52-149 PowerofEvil 69-52-124 Arrow 92-57-99 Lemonation 6-61-188 First off I could and most likely will be wrong placing Optic at #9 but this roster just looks forced or ham-fisted because they needed players to fill such roles and in my predictions, they will get such results because of it. Ok, Zig is honestly useless and is even comparable to Lourlo at how ineffective he seems at times. Both PowerofEvil and Arrow MVP and MVP caliber are great players but the roster around them just isn't honestly. Lemon seems to be dried up and while his pick ban knowledge is great that only counts for I'd say 40% of the importance and the rest is skill and mechanics and he just has lost a step or so with age. Bans {{champion:240}} {{champion:107}} Anything that can make plays from Zig and Akaadian so the carries on Optic will have to will be something to think about if you're the other teams. 10.FLYQUEST 4-14 Flame 50-57-93 Anda 41-56-115 Fly 63-59-88 Wildturtle 73-43-74 Stunt 8-57-123 Looking at this roster I have high hopes but all that I can think about is TDK from the past and how shit they were even with such roster with Ninja and Emperor. Fly could be the next Ninja in which he will die constantly because he will try to make plays for his team. Add in the whole visa issues from the past him with the other players(PowerofEvil, Febiven, Zven, Mithy etc) might not even play for such teams for a disclosed amount of time. Sorry but someone has to be #10. Bans NONE
: Looking at Fnatic's roster, how are you 100% sure G2 wins again? I'd say maybe 55-45 in favor of G2, but EU is by no means locked. And I'd say SSG can still beat SKT given their World Champion status.
It's more tongue-and-cheek than anything dude. Kinda a pun on the same ol' same ol' that the LCS/LCK/LPL etc has been for the past 2-3 years. With G2 winning the last 4 Eu Championships in a row, TSM winning 3 in a row and making it to 10 straight NA Finals, SKT being dominate during the Spring compared to the Summer.
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: 2017 Events by the Numbers
When you realize Fnatic had 1 more loss than the other three NA teams combined and Fnatic advanced out of groups and only 1 NA team did.
: 2018 NA LCS Spring Split
1.TEAM SOLOMID 14-4 Hauntzer 49-45-120 MikeYeung 38-41-135 Bjergsen 93-44-101 Zven 72-34-115 Mithy 16-54-193 2.COUNTER LOGIC GAMING 12-6 Darshan 70-55-110 Reignover 45-51-131 Huhi 76-67-127 Stixxay 94-50-105 Biofrost 11-53-189 3.TEAM LIQUID 11-7 Impact 44-38-128 Xmithie 34-51-150 Pobelter 73-41-115 Doublelift 99-26-96 Olleh 8-49-185 4.CLUTCH GAMING 11-7 Solo 43-59-107 Lira 47-59-108 Febiven 71-37-97 Apollo 56-46-106 Hakuho 18-41-149 5.ECHO FOX 10-6 Huni 63-57-117 Dardoch 42-38-163 Fenix 75-39-106 Altec 82-35-98 Adrian 10-41-195 6.CLOUD 9 9-9 Licorice 25-59-131 Svenskeren 38-51-154 Jensen 94-44-82 Sneaky 90-37-109 Smoothie 23-54-170 7.100 THIEVES 7-11 Ssumday 46-45-116 Meteos 37-60-131 Ryu 64-38-96 Cody Sun 77-39-93 Aphromoo 13-52-153 8.GOLDEN GUARDIANS 5-13 Lourlo 43-71-76 Contractz 37-70-92 Hai 56-51-81 Deftly 54-46-73 Matt 9-81-121 9.OPTIC GAMING 5-13 Zig 48-63-140 Akaadian 46-49-141 PowerofEvil 67-51-116 Arrow 89-54-96 Lemonation 6-61-188 10.FLYQUEST 4-14 Flame 43-55-79 Anda 38-50-95 Fly 54-57-86 Wildturtle 67-41-68 Stunt 7-52-101
: 2017 Events by the Numbers
Not working for me " Oops. How'd this hole get in our site"?
: no. ssg wins lck
Nah, they'll probably get eliminated in the second round by the team that meets SKT in the Finals, before potentially losing to SKT themselves.
: remember the team that was SUPER stacked in 2k16? i think they were called IMT and NEVER WON NA. don't count TSM CLG C9 out unless they dont make finals
I'm not counting TSM out since I have them as #1 in my predictions. TSM was SUPER STACKED in 2k16 and they did win NA in the Summer Split.
: 2018 NA LCS Spring Split
BO3 and BO1 both have their pros and cons but I too am leaning on Best of 1 more so than BO3 because it makes teams scout, practice and overall, prepare harder than before when it's just 1 and done instead of having 2 chances before losing, now it's 1. I look at it like a comparison between NFL(Best of 1) and the NBA(Best of 3) when it comes to teams/players having to study their opponents it's no secret that the NFL has that head and shoulders over the NBA where realistically it's close to impossible to scout and practice before facing 5-6 teams within a 7 day week, compared to 1(NFL) 2(LCS) teams per week to focus all your energy on. In short, I think going back to best of 1 does things that fans aren't noticing and one of them is fatigue in which playing 36 - 54 games in the regular split same as the summer split, playoffs, MSI, Rift Rivals, Worlds it's too much and becoming a bit saturated in my opinion. Standing won't be confusing to understand( when people couldn't understand why RNG advanced at Worlds and not TSM when both were 3-3 but RNG 2-0'd TSM I doubt they will understand when teams are identical in record but not overall records. 2015 Spring Split Immortals vs Renegades......... best of 3 who's winning? It's predictable and what's something that we tell ourselves that always tends to happen especially at Worlds " The better teams will always win in Best of" so who would watch one of the better teams vs a garbage team that everyone expects to lose anyways? Don't give me "I watch them" cause the lower half teams in NA 2015-2017 had 0 views and attention. Now, imagine an 8-3 TSM vs 5-6 10th place team( on paper it's already sounding to be a decent game within best of 1) Overall, I think going back to best of one's isn't a bad idea, is it 10/10 no but I think at this point it's better.
: Unless some freak incident of circumstance happens again - and I'm all for Afreeca moments - yeah this script forever writes itself.
We could see Afreeca(Rox 3.0) beat SKT but I wouldn't count on it within the LCK. Well, not until the Summer Split where SKT tends to fumble in the LCK by an "up and coming" team, only for that team to get eliminated within the second round of Worlds. In short TSM, SKT, EDG, FW, G2 are most likely the winners of the mean nothing regular split winners. C9, SKT, RNG, AHQ, FNC will most likely be the winners against their counterparts at Worlds.
: 2018 NA LCS Spring Split
TSM wins NA G2 wins EU EDG wins LPL SKT wins LCK FW wins LMS ....................... SKT wins MSI The next 4-5 months in a nutshell
: What happened to the esports tab
Who knows and honestly, who cares at this point for reason that Riot has stated that they won't post any team updates or news anyways within the LCS.
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=pxqRcbn8,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-14T19:28:57.824+0000) > > &quot;And, tbh, your sentence on Jensen contrariata your thoughts on Contratcz... wouldn&#x27;t have he bring kills and leads early if he was an aggressive jungler&quot;? > - I&#x27;m sorry but I don&#x27;t know what you mean? If as you said is the only one that gave C9 lead, then how can you consider Contractz aggressive overall, and more aggressive than Sven? because he is a good jungler, and if he was really as aggressive as you stated earlier in the thread he should bring lead as well as Jensen The point is that Contratcz is not a very aggressive jungler, imho > > The Svenskeren topic is interesting because I&#x27;m interested in seeing if C9 can change him from his being a ward 24/7 from TSM to being his old self again from the old EU days. I just don&#x27;t think Svenskeren will be a huge tipping scale in helping C9 this go around. Sven wasn't all the time a ward during TSm period, he got criticized for costantly invading and dying on invades earlier on Bjergsen is not proactive enough, to be honest, and all the team rely onplaying around him or the ADC aggressive plays and is molded to act that way and not being ready for different set-ups (and than it show up when they pull out an odd stupid out of nowhere Jayce on the most important game and Hauntzer fail to execute it)
Ah, sorry! Sometimes I confuse myself
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=pxqRcbn8,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-14T01:35:38.550+0000) > > Hai/Contractz > hmm, maybe not &quot;aggressive&quot; but if Hai tells Contractz to gank or to stand in lane for 40 mins to be his personal guard he will do it cause..........it&#x27;s Hai. A reason why I said Hai/Contractz being &quot;aggressive&quot; is that Hai&#x27;s shot-calling has fallen off to mere fight after fight until either his team or the enemy team are too far behind to do much. We&#x27;ve seen that method from Moon/Hai where Moon would be near Hai at all times with the other lanes having to fend for themselves. > Being aggressive doesn&#x27;t mean being better and vice versa. > That's not being aggressive, though, that's just focusing resource allocation on mid lane. Hai doesn't generally try to steadily force trades and plays, he do his own thing in lane/fights and then try to pull the trigger if he see an opening. What you are referring to is past season FlyQuest roster being below average mechanically and having to rely mostly on Hai shot calling to find a favourable fight and immediately pull the trigger since they would lose if they let standard games unfold. Contractz/Hai is a pretty standard jungle/mid duo, as Hai hasn't really been aggressive even when he was at the top of NA mid lane ranking (freaking Link on CLG was more aggressive than him back on S4) > I don&#x27;t think Dardoch/Fenix are &quot;better&quot; but I do think they&#x27;re much more aggressive than say Jensen/Sven will be for a number of reasons > 1. Echo FOx will have Adrain/Altec as it&#x27;s bot-lane and even tho that combo is more &quot;passive&quot; farm than anything, they don&#x27;t tend to make mistakes or give their opponents easy kills during the lane phase. > > 2. Huni will be his former self-facing off against NA talent once again in which he was easily top 5 within 4 splits in the Western scene so, one would think he too will hold his own and have no real reason to have a jungle presence around him. > > 3. Jensen tends to be the only C9 member pre 20 mins to do much of anything, he gives them kills, gold, leads, cs etc. If teams can hold him down long enough the C9 water will run dry. The only problem is Sneaky in which he seems to have flipped a new leaf recently. > Huni has always relied on junglers playing around top to enhance him even more and avoiding to get shutdown and tilted by repeated enemy ganks (especially because he was bad historically on tanks). Only in the last part of the last season with SKT, Huni has requested less jungle attention, but that is SKT where bot lane was in a slump and they had to be helped (plus, I mean, jungler should at times help Faker too). As for EF vs C9 comparison, Licorice is probably going to get forced on more passive, so both teams should have on paper a more passive side lane, and focus their resources in the other side lane + mid. And, tbh, your sentence on Jensen contrariata your thoughts on Contratcz... wouldn't have he bring kills and leads early if he was an aggressive jungler? > I just don&#x27;t think Sven will play for all 18 games this split for C9. Just look at how much &quot;drama&quot; there has been with Jensen and his junglers in the past(Hai, Meteos, Contractz), If Sven has 1 or maybe 2 is more reasonable he will indeed, get subbed out. But the junglers you mentioned here are NOT nearly as aggressive as Sven. Meteos is a farming jungler, Hai was offrole and often behind in farming so he couldn't have even been aggressive (plus his champion pool didn't scream "aggressive jungler" at all), Contractz was not being particularly aggressive for big parts of games (especially after first minutes). If anything the match in playstyle should make it much much easier as Jensen never had a jungler as aggressive as Sven to pair with (except for Rush stint, where the problem was team's overall shotcalling after relying for a so long period on Hai and there was also language barrier problems and not a jungle/mid style mismatch). Again, the only scenario where I see Sven being replaced, is if Licorice struggle too much and C9 is desperate enough to put in an imported top laner, being forced to sub Sven out
"And, tbh, your sentence on Jensen contrariata your thoughts on Contratcz... wouldn't have he bring kills and leads early if he was an aggressive jungler"? - I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean? Here's the gravy, I think Jensen will be less aggressive as he once was because Contractz left, as well as he/you/I/everyone knows that he wants to be named MVP/1st mid in front of Bjergsen. So I think he will be more of a passive-like player this go-around as having around 1-2 more kills on average, plus over 20+ more CS gets him 2nd place on the voting scale behind........Bjergsen. The Svenskeren topic is interesting because I'm interested in seeing if C9 can change him from his being a ward 24/7 from TSM to being his old self again from the old EU days. I just don't think Svenskeren will be a huge tipping scale in helping C9 this go around.
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=pxqRcbn8,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-13T21:34:21.494+0000) > > There are other aggressive Jungle-Mid duos that on paper at least will seem to be better than the Sven/Jensen duo. > Aggressiveness between Sven and Jensen will be matched with other aggressive duos like Dardoch/Fenix, Contractz/Hai and Akaadian/PowerofEvil that again(on paper) all have better All-Star caliber lineups to boot. > Contratcz/HAI aggressive? Dardoch/Fenix better as players than Sven/Jensen? Akaadian/PowerofEvil won't have the same or even worse synergy problems (and Akaadian is not really in the same league as Sven)? Sven/Jensen duo is going to be better than the duos you are mentioning, imho > C9 also has 2 other jungler options to explore with if things go sour(Wiggily and Loulex) for Loulex the last few times I saw him play he kinda just sucked. If Sven has a bad game I see C9 subbing him in/out of the lineup and we all know how bad C9 are when knowing when to sub players out(Ray/Impact) that gets them in that 3rd-4th place standings for the bulk of the split. Loulex is mostly a positional coach and scrim partner for the junglers of starting and academy team, like he yet was for Contractz. Unless Sven goes in a very bad prolonged streak, no way C9 subs him out. Ray was intended from the start as the 6th man since Impact looked like wanted to retire last season and they bring in advance his replacement with the goal to train him to have him ready for when Impact would have left the team...except Ray didn't grow ad C9 hoped and Impact showed later in the year that he still wants to play and is still the better player of the two. The only scenario where I can see Sven eventually being replaced, is if Licorice struggle too much vs the imported competition and doesn't show quickly signs of growth, so C9 is forced to take an import top laner and sub in a NA resident top laner for Sven (I guess Sven is much more replaceable than Jensen in this scenario)
Hai/Contractz hmm, maybe not "aggressive" but if Hai tells Contractz to gank or to stand in lane for 40 mins to be his personal guard he will do it cause..........it's Hai. A reason why I said Hai/Contractz being "aggressive" is that Hai's shot-calling has fallen off to mere fight after fight until either his team or the enemy team are too far behind to do much. We've seen that method from Moon/Hai where Moon would be near Hai at all times with the other lanes having to fend for themselves. Being aggressive doesn't mean being better and vice versa. I don't think Dardoch/Fenix are "better" but I do think they're much more aggressive than say Jensen/Sven will be for a number of reasons 1. Echo FOx will have Adrain/Altec as it's bot-lane and even tho that combo is more "passive" farm than anything, they don't tend to make mistakes or give their opponents easy kills during the lane phase. 2. Huni will be his former self-facing off against NA talent once again in which he was easily top 5 within 4 splits in the Western scene so, one would think he too will hold his own and have no real reason to have a jungle presence around him. 3. Jensen tends to be the only C9 member pre 20 mins to do much of anything, he gives them kills, gold, leads, cs etc. If teams can hold him down long enough the C9 water will run dry. The only problem is Sneaky in which he seems to have flipped a new leaf recently. I just don't think Sven will play for all 18 games this split for C9. Just look at how much "drama" there has been with Jensen and his junglers in the past(Hai, Meteos, Contractz), If Sven has 1 or maybe 2 is more reasonable he will indeed, get subbed out.
: > [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=pxqRcbn8,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-12-13T07:11:56.373+0000) > Jensen will also need to build a new synergy with a new jungler in which it could spell trouble for this team in the long run. Both Jensen and Sven are very aggressive players though, the jungle-mid synergy won't be a problem at all and to be honest I think it will be the strength of the new C9 line-up (and I also think they will find this synergy in very short time). Contractz seemed to quietly disappear in games after a certain point in the game, and this affected C9 performances as it slowly put the burden on Jensen/Impact to carry, Sven for the better or the worse will keep being notable with him trying to force plays Licorice among NA native top laners is decent and has margin of improvements since he is still young and inexperienced, the problem will be to see how he will stack up against the import player field (+ hauntzer)
There are other aggressive Jungle-Mid duos that on paper at least will seem to be better than the Sven/Jensen duo. Aggressiveness between Sven and Jensen will be matched with other aggressive duos like Dardoch/Fenix, Contractz/Hai and Akaadian/PowerofEvil that again(on paper) all have better All-Star caliber lineups to boot. C9 also has 2 other jungler options to explore with if things go sour(Wiggily and Loulex) for Loulex the last few times I saw him play he kinda just sucked. If Sven has a bad game I see C9 subbing him in/out of the lineup and we all know how bad C9 are when knowing when to sub players out(Ray/Impact) that gets them in that 3rd-4th place standings for the bulk of the split.
: cloud 9 9-9 xd
XD Besides the "troll" record I just don't like C9's new top, more importantly, I have no idea who he is. Jensen will also need to build a new synergy with a new jungler in which it could spell trouble for this team in the long run. A few good things are in C9's favor and one is Sneaky and his awakening of sorts from being a passive/support like ADC to a true carry ADC. Love him or hate him but Contractz had a decent amount of games where he would get 2-3 kills within 15-20 mins that gave C9 early leads. Overall, C9 went 11-7 in the first games of the series in which a roster that was together for at the time a year(spring-Summer 2017) now add in each NA roster seems to be oozing with talent going from 11-7 - 9-9 isn't a far-fetched prediction. Also, this is my "rough draft" predictions.
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"Don't count on it"-Magic 8 ball Toy Story I've said the same thing for about......4 years now and nothing has changed.
: Pre-Season NA new roster top 5 list.
This will be a very interesting split that's for sure! Nonofficial prediction/s 10. FlyQuesst 3-15 9. Golden Guardians 5-13 8. Optic Gaming 6-12 7. 100 Thieves 7-11 6. Cloud 9 9-9 5. Team Liquid 10-8 4. Clutch Gaming 11-7 3. Counter Logic Gaming 13-5 2. Echo Fox 14-4 1. Team Solomid 15-3
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