: > [{quoted}](name=IceFlareWind,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gP1ory8P,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T21:28:55.591+0000) > > But what will they report you for? there is a system in place to check for afk people. there is a system in place to check for toxicity, As i mentioned for troll, cheating and boosting games need to be checked by a person. Then what you're suggesting is no different than the current system. Except you're advocating that people who afk unintentionally eventually be treated the same as people who troll. The current system has afk handled by leavebuster, chat handled by automatic systems, and trolling/cheating/boosting mostly a manual check because a computer has a very hard time determining trolling unless it's blatant running down mid. Manual checks are slow. I'm not sure you appreciate how may people play this game and how many people are quick to assume someone is trolling when things go wrong. There a far too many reports for trolling than any staff could review each one individually.
I don't know man. It isn't a flawless system. I'm simply brainstorming a way where 3 negative games by victims of trolls throughout the span of days doesn't get them muted by using their majority of games which they have a ton of honors.
: > [{quoted}](name=IceFlareWind,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gP1ory8P,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T20:57:51.336+0000) > > Absolutely right, but how many people would actually give report you for things you did not do. Also what are the chances of you getting reported by your entire team? In other words, even if a troll were to report you for something you did not do, if you actually played honorably the rest of your teams honors for you would counteract the false report. Now if the entire team reported you, they are either in the lobby together or you did something wrong. Shit, lol. I have had an anivia who in some strange circumstance was supposed to be with the opposing team. We ended up losing the game real fast due to the anivia's trollness. Talk about helping get ganked using her walls. Would trap us and such...well in that circumstance nobody from the opposing team complained and we lost lp and wasted time trying to play " the right way." > > SO fuck false reports, because i rather get a troll a hundred reports every day and get them perma IP bans rather than worry about a few false reports. Instead of this shit system that is legit banning toxicity because it is seen more easily than trolls. Fuck that shit mate. Legit I'm tired of this game. I just want this shit to be fixed. Such a fun game, and yet people who are barely toxic getting banned over the fucking trolls. > > So yea I welcome those false reports that might not even due shit for the sake of getting rid of trolls. But all you're doing is giving trolls yet another way to troll you. By reporting people who have done nothing wrong (and still getting them into trouble for it). There are loopholes for the trolls to abuse no matter which way you slice it. If it takes the entire team to report them for trolling they just need to bring a friend. If it takes the rest of the team to report they can just bring 3 of their friends and get every single solo-queue person that joins the team in trouble. Even if it's only one troll reporting you every game you shouldn't get into **ANY** amount of trouble even if you don't receive honors from your other team members. IP bans are both worthless at keeping people banned when they want to avoid it and dangerous to people in places like dorms and internet cafes. Banning a single IP might mean banning an entire dorm. While banning someone with a router and dynamic IP would mean that they just need to reset their router to avoid the ban (and push it to the next person that uses that IP). This isn't even taking into account people just using a VPN to get around an IP ban. I would like the trolls banned as well, but you're just giving suggestions that would make the problem worse.
But what will they report you for? there is a system in place to check for afk people. there is a system in place to check for toxicity, As i mentioned for troll, cheating and boosting games need to be checked by a person. Also ranked would not get that many trolls due to this. If in 1 game u lose 4 honors due to 4 trolls reporting you, but you have like lvl 3 honor with a total of lets say 40 honors "stickers" it would not affect you. You only get punished once you reach the negatives which show that you are toxic/trolling/ afk the majority of your games. In other words as long as you're an actually good person in the community than there is nothing to worry about. For trolls however, if they continuously go afk, int, are toxic, or just in general do troll things, they will sooner or later end up in the negatives almost like ranked. you lose lp and you gain lp, but here if u lose ur honors and get far enough in ur negatives you get chat restricted/ banned..
: > [{quoted}](name=IceFlareWind,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gP1ory8P,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-01-23T20:36:40.020+0000) > > Well I just got 14 day ban for flaming 2 dudes who went like 4-20 or so and who were trying to quit from the start of the game. > Since we can't control trolls (legit.) Why do we have to pay the price for dealing with them. I tried helping and suggesting things. Maybe my tone was off cus of the frustration. You ever outlive a 4 man dive and get a kill only to have your two trolls still continue to do nothing. Probably have to be honest. Anyways these two started spam pinging me after awhile because I willingly did not go to help save them when they were caught in our jg against 3 guys who were pretty fed. Like I am getting spam pinged for not feeding... > > Since it's so easy for people to be found guilty of with toxicity, why not counteract it with a different method it. In order to actually identify the trolls from regular day people who just may have snapped on a few games over the past week. Legit got chat restricted for 3 games that I was toxic in throughout the span of 2 weeks. Like really? I played like 40 games, and the three got me screwed? Thank you! > > > Anyways back to the new system that I think would benefit us a lot. > What if honor and reports worked hand in hand. Each honor gives lets stay a good sticker like in elementary school. If you get reported you lose stickers. That way it's actually a fair game. Because I know damn well that the majority of my games i get honors, but a few toxic games and i lose my rewards, honor lvl, get chat banned/ or banned. > > Since it's so easy to get screwed through chat, why not make a way where those few game toxic people don't pay the price that trolls should be getting dealt. > > ALso, this system would need ALL reports to count, hence removing the 1 report is the same as 10 report system. Why you ask? Simple, if you can get 3 stickers in a game you should also be able to lose the same amount; however; if you're an actual troll, and your enemy team also joins in on reporting you. Then maybe you deserve the punishment you get. > > We should also add Unting since people continuously feed not even aware of it. > Also maybe a trolling choice. Must be reviewed by a person however. > > Each report would have a different scale. the worse the crime the worse the punishment. > > AFk-1 sticker > Unting-1 sticker > Unsportsmanlike conduct-2 > Verbal Abuse-2 > Hate speech-3 > Cheating-3 > Boosting-3 > Trolling-3 > > > Obviously there is more of a chance that you leave a game with a negative amount of stickers, but it would be better for everyone to have an equal chance of getting punished instead of just the easy to find toxic people. > > An addition would be giving a person the option to honor all teammates. This would balance the spectrum of good to bad. > > At the end of the day, the current system is very very flawed. We act like the same people that get their feelings hurt have no reason for being hurt, yet like you said the actual victims have to " Suck it the fuck up" and move on in a lose lose lose situation. It's very sad. You can't surrender, you can't say something, you can't afk in a horrible hostage situation with trolls. > > WHICH BTW brings this up as well. IF the score differential exceeds 10 by 15 minutes. the 15 minute ff should only require 4 votes. Being hostage to trolls is no fun especially when the game is lost. > > Yes this is all from a 14 day ban guy, but fuck it. I got blamed in an older post about "Bitching and not posting a way to fix it." > Well here we are, I looked up posts and found a new one with a league mod on here as well. > > now do something, that is if you guys even take the time to actually read it and feel my frustration. All that would accomplish is make it so even false reports can hurt someone's account.
Absolutely right, but how many people would actually give report you for things you did not do. Also what are the chances of you getting reported by your entire team? In other words, even if a troll were to report you for something you did not do, if you actually played honorably the rest of your teams honors for you would counteract the false report. Now if the entire team reported you, they are either in the lobby together or you did something wrong. Shit, lol. I have had an anivia who in some strange circumstance was supposed to be with the opposing team. We ended up losing the game real fast due to the anivia's trollness. Talk about helping get ganked using her walls. Would trap us and such...well in that circumstance nobody from the opposing team complained and we lost lp and wasted time trying to play " the right way." SO fuck false reports, because i rather get a troll a hundred reports every day and get them perma IP bans rather than worry about a few false reports. Instead of this shit system that is legit banning toxicity because it is seen more easily than trolls. Fuck that shit mate. Legit I'm tired of this game. I just want this shit to be fixed. Such a fun game, and yet people who are barely toxic getting banned over the fucking trolls. So yea I welcome those false reports that might not even due shit for the sake of getting rid of trolls.
: Behaviour like you just outlined, unfortunately, isn't preventable. And because of many complex variables, people can, and often will, turn into trolls at the drop of a hat if you treat them badly. The answer to this, from a player perspective, is much like the age old adage, *Don't Feed the Trolls.* Accept the fact that your game will be difficult at best, and work with what you have. Additionally, [Player Support](http://support.riotgames.com) has specific dropdown menus for this. Report them. Give op.gg links. Put a digital face to a digital name. Behaviour like intentional feeding and subtle trolling *cannot be detected by machines, because machines aren't behaving like that.* We've a ways to go before this is a thing that can be insta-banned. We have to be reactive to a growing problem. I see more people declaring that they're going to turn into trolls because they got banned for saying words they agreed not to say when they made their account. People are deliberately causing more problems and in turn making their own experiences worse. Accountability is important. Riot, I'm absolutely positive, knows that this is a problem. I have no doubt that they're trying to find ways to get this problem addressed. But what we seem to lack right now, is patience and good sense to not make the problem worse before they can make it better.
Well I just got 14 day ban for flaming 2 dudes who went like 4-20 or so and who were trying to quit from the start of the game. Since we can't control trolls (legit.) Why do we have to pay the price for dealing with them. I tried helping and suggesting things. Maybe my tone was off cus of the frustration. You ever outlive a 4 man dive and get a kill only to have your two trolls still continue to do nothing. Probably have to be honest. Anyways these two started spam pinging me after awhile because I willingly did not go to help save them when they were caught in our jg against 3 guys who were pretty fed. Like I am getting spam pinged for not feeding... Since it's so easy for people to be found guilty of with toxicity, why not counteract it with a different method it. In order to actually identify the trolls from regular day people who just may have snapped on a few games over the past week. Legit got chat restricted for 3 games that I was toxic in throughout the span of 2 weeks. Like really? I played like 40 games, and the three got me screwed? Thank you! Anyways back to the new system that I think would benefit us a lot. What if honor and reports worked hand in hand. Each honor gives lets stay a good sticker like in elementary school. If you get reported you lose stickers. That way it's actually a fair game. Because I know damn well that the majority of my games i get honors, but a few toxic games and i lose my rewards, honor lvl, get chat banned/ or banned. Since it's so easy to get screwed through chat, why not make a way where those few game toxic people don't pay the price that trolls should be getting dealt. ALso, this system would need ALL reports to count, hence removing the 1 report is the same as 10 report system. Why you ask? Simple, if you can get 3 stickers in a game you should also be able to lose the same amount; however; if you're an actual troll, and your enemy team also joins in on reporting you. Then maybe you deserve the punishment you get. We should also add Unting since people continuously feed not even aware of it. Also maybe a trolling choice. Must be reviewed by a person however. Each report would have a different scale. the worse the crime the worse the punishment. AFk-1 sticker Unting-1 sticker Unsportsmanlike conduct-2 Verbal Abuse-2 Hate speech-3 Cheating-3 Boosting-3 Trolling-3 Obviously there is more of a chance that you leave a game with a negative amount of stickers, but it would be better for everyone to have an equal chance of getting punished instead of just the easy to find toxic people. An addition would be giving a person the option to honor all teammates. This would balance the spectrum of good to bad. At the end of the day, the current system is very very flawed. We act like the same people that get their feelings hurt have no reason for being hurt, yet like you said the actual victims have to " Suck it the fuck up" and move on in a lose lose lose situation. It's very sad. You can't surrender, you can't say something, you can't afk in a horrible hostage situation with trolls. WHICH BTW brings this up as well. IF the score differential exceeds 10 by 15 minutes. the 15 minute ff should only require 4 votes. Being hostage to trolls is no fun especially when the game is lost. Yes this is all from a 14 day ban guy, but fuck it. I got blamed in an older post about "Bitching and not posting a way to fix it." Well here we are, I looked up posts and found a new one with a league mod on here as well. now do something, that is if you guys even take the time to actually read it and feel my frustration.
Rioter Comments
: It's pretty sad playing ranked
just played my first provisional match 2 days ago on this account. was top lane. which is fine. Picked nasus. I'm bronze 1 in my main account. I looked up the teams, and the opposing team had 3 gold and 2 silvers from Season 7. gold including the fiora i was facing. We had 1 gold and 3 silver and me (bronze.) I actually end up doing good. I get a kill off their jg ganking. So a 1 for 1. I try to auto fiora when she qs me for grasp procs. Soon enough I was able to 1 v 1 her. Well my bot lane didn't care as they fed their jhin god knows how many times in a matter of 10 minutes. Game was over before it even started. This shit is depressing. I was actually doing preety good against a higher rank opponent, but I cant even enjoy tis shit anymore due to this "team" game. SO HARD to carry, but so EASSSSYYY to throw a game by urself. Next game I did awful as an ashe, resulting from the roaming enemy diana and enemy twitch who got a couple of kills in a fight near drake pit. 2 Games after that I get a nid supp who decides its smart to feed herself instead of the adc. The mf I was facing was garbage. I froze lane forcing her to lose cs, she also died multiple times due to being too far up trying to cs. However that didnt matter since my nidalee thought adcs didnt need kills. Like mf came back to get a bunch of kills while i went 4-10. I just dont understand why there are trolls in this game. She had the nerve to talk about how she had the most kills as a supp... Like ashe is alrdy weak. She requires a few items to actually do anything. anyways games were all lost. pity this game could be so much better. but i swear i keep getting depressed over this shit.
Cyrato (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Baron Barian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ToVwdErP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-18T10:07:01.565+0000) > > She was well fed and had a Bloodthirster. If she doesn't die in an instant, she can get a lot of healing and even benefits from overhealing. And that's just assuming she uses crappy runes. ^^ Basically this. Jinx is a snowballing hypercarry after all. I'm not too surprised that she's unkillable.
yeea her passive is cancer. had a jinx that had 0 kills suddenly got a triple in a fight near drake because her jg got a kill.... like why give her passive off her teammate's kills. after that we all know how jinx goes.
Rioter Comments
: How does that make any sense? Being deaf doesn't effect your ability to read or write. If anything, being deaf would make you less likely to have mistakes that come from words or phrases sounding similar when spoken, making you better at writing than someone who had their hearing.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Ww7v150H,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-20T00:08:01.451+0000) > > How does that make any sense? Being deaf doesn't effect your ability to read or write. If anything, being deaf would make you less likely to have mistakes that come from words or phrases sounding similar when spoken, making you better at writing than someone who had their hearing. This is an old post, but it's w.e. I took an ASL class in college bout 2 years ago. It is a fact that deaf people have worse schools to go to than regular people. Plus if you cannot hear properly you wouldn't know how something sounds or is supposed to be said. If you cannot say something properly how can you write it properly(talking grammar here btw). But yea for some reason deaf schools don't have the actual tools to improve a deaf person's academic needs. I think it was middle school level most of them get to. There is however a community with a very good school, but again it is a community. Which means people have to actually move there to go to this school. Not saying there aren't many schools for the deaf culture. Just saying that there are many that are not at the level they should be at for teaching.
Rioter Comments
: No longer able to experiment
my appologies, major misunderstanding. This account is an account I created a long time ago because there was a log in bug. I play on this sometimes. However I never really made a board account for my main, but I speak for my main. No lol I'm not rly a smurf. I'm in bronze. SlicingWinds is my main account. You really have some bad thoughts about me. I was in normals when I was testing out being a jungler. Blind=nomals. It was not a strategy. I was simply tired of losing games due to being behind in top or other laners being heavily behind as well, so I decided to try JG which impacts every lane and almost all of objectives. (I do not see this as a strategy man) By try hard I did I mean in the fact that they had a 4 man call going. While I had a varus who I'm preety sure was new to adc as well as varus, and also I which I was brand new to jg and volibear. Yes of course I want to win, but when the other team has everything to the dot going for them cus of their call it is hard to win. We still made the game to a very close ending, but well our adc Idk if he ever adc'd before and well I was new to my job as well. I wanted to win, but some circumstances weren't wat I had in mind. Anyways I think it's very rude to jump to conclusions about someone, like you have with me. Toxic? come on man, that's just rude. How am I being toxic when giving my opinion on the matter of playing blinds (ALSO known as normals) to try new champs and facing a 4 man team. Like wouldn't that annoy you? You go to blinds to test out something, and you face a 4 man squad, while you are lacking a potential adc or jg(me).
Rioter Comments
AmazoX (EUW)
: His kit is the most fair in the game, I don't get how his OP in anyway? His numbers are fair & so are the abilities.
> [{quoted}](name=AmazoX,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NXwe6WP1,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-02-18T08:22:27.789+0000) > > His kit is the most fair in the game, I don't get how his OP in anyway? His numbers are fair & so are the abilities. well i mean, his e hit box is absurd. You can dodge and still get hit. Once he is a certain level you can't escape from his cc chain anymore, and well like i learned yesterday. As I played nasus he did almost 400 damage with his q alone with 0 damage/ap items. He went full tank and basically erased my health. So i dont know lol. If you're going to give a champ spammable cc, why give them such excessive damage. I wouldn't mind so much If the freaking hit boxes weren't retarded as shit. Like I kid you not I dont know how many q's and e's I dodged, but there were times that I clearly dodged and yet still got hit. So again, why give a champ who can spam cc from such a long range over and over again stupid ass hit boxes. Like I could have had another nasus stand next to me and the e would've hit him, and it still hit me.
: Why didn't you just dodge, dude even warned you
> [{quoted}](name=TheRiddum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-03-02T05:49:58.646+0000) > > Why didn't you just dodge, dude even warned you didnt think he would actually go through with it ma n
: Troll
Jesus, he still not banned.
: > [{quoted}](name=Trollmanship,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:51:44.483+0000) > > There's absolutely no reason to play a game out when 4 of your teammates agree it's over and the only one who refuses to surrender is an intentional feeder. yea when 4 agree yet the surrender didnt happen? 4 out of 5 is a surrender. sit down and shut up you dont know what you are talking about. he deserves trolls in his game
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:54:18.215+0000) > > yea when 4 agree yet the surrender didnt happen? 4 out of 5 is a surrender. sit down and shut up you dont know what you are talking about. he deserves trolls in his game Actually it sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Early 15-20 minute surrnder requires 5 ppl to ff, hence the troll denying us our freedom by not voting yes. DO YOU COMPREHEND GOOD SIR? the game ended a minute or so past 20 cus we didn't require our trolls vote.
: > [{quoted}](name=IceFlareWind,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:21:06.541+0000) > > You know I enjoy how you people treat trolled people. Unwinnable game, all lanes fed, ziggs by himself bot, their pantheon with like 8 kills in about 5-10 minutes. I'm now getting camped top with alistar and trynd, cus their jinx alrdy fed off the 2 v 1. They dove me took first tower and came back with herald to kill me again and take two more towers and inhib. I want the game to end, and you sit there making fun of the situation. Lol must be nice to troll I find it apalling that you wouldnt even try you deserve to be trolled. I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF YOU LOSE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT TROLLS BUT GIVING THEM THE GAME IS FUCKED UP!
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:48:57.071+0000) > > I find it apalling that you wouldnt even try you deserve to be trolled. I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF YOU LOSE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT TROLLS BUT GIVING THEM THE GAME IS FUCKED UP! Who said I gave up idiot? I asked them to take top wen top inhib was gone, when pantheon had 12 kills, wen i was being camped to by ali facing off against a trynd as teemo, when their jinx had like 50 cs on our poor lonely ziggs and 4 kills on him too. So don't come at me with that shit u ignorant ass. I was the one who told my team in the begining that we could win because we had a good start excluding the feeding done by the zed, but that good start doesn't mean shit when the zed walks to each lane and feeds, or top get 3 man ganked over and over, or bot lane is 2 v 1 entire fuckin early game. Do not come to me with your bitch shit. I know ho to 4 v 5. I have done it before, but 4 v 5 with a 20 kill difference and like 3 lvl difference with no objectives taken is impossible.
: > [{quoted}](name=IceFlareWind,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:08:28.584+0000) > > because the opposing lee wanted an s and their jinx was farming bot . I literally told them to take top since they took inhib, and instead they just got drags and other towers wait so you told the enemy team to take a lane? cheating much? surprised you didnt get perma'd @themods
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:13:00.684+0000) > > wait so you told the enemy team to take a lane? cheating much? surprised you didnt get perma'd @themods You know I enjoy how you people treat trolled people. Unwinnable game, all lanes fed, ziggs by himself bot, their pantheon with like 8 kills in about 5-10 minutes. I'm now getting camped top with alistar and trynd, cus their jinx alrdy fed off the 2 v 1. They dove me took first tower and came back with herald to kill me again and take two more towers and inhib. I want the game to end, and you sit there making fun of the situation. Lol must be nice to troll
: Troll
I just got done playing with another troll btw, how fuckin ironic is that. I gave up my adc for this autofill support who mains top and mid. I assumed she knew how to play the game cus she mains top and mid. Well starting 5 minutes she goes top blue to leash.... comes back down behind on cs. flashes to me to heal me.... she went 1-9 oh and her ults? she used hem to cs. She was palying sivir and I was playing morgana. My account name is SlicingWinds. If you wanna check out the trolled games. THe one I play morg is the troll sivir, and the one I play teemo is the troll zed. I will not give any summoner names besides my own since it is against board policy. However feel free to go to my account to check those games out to see the games na.op.gg/summoner/userName=SlicingWinds
: Why didn't your team just open mid? That way you waste much less time (as long as you can convince the other team to send 3 mid and end your misery quickly)
> [{quoted}](name=Trollmanship,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rNZ2knBi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-28T22:51:43.660+0000) > > Why didn't your team just open mid? That way you waste much less time (as long as you can convince the other team to send 3 mid and end your misery quickly) because the opposing lee wanted an s and their jinx was farming bot . I literally told them to take top since they took inhib, and instead they just got drags and other towers
Rioter Comments
: You ever play Singed. Force all 5 people top lane and play with them for 5 minutes. Running all around top JG and top lane with them chasing me. I see bot and mid and think ok we should be able to take 2 towers. But of course I see them freezing the lane and last hitting. So of course once enough ults came back up they killed me. Walked mid lane killed the mid laner, Walked bot lane and killed both of them. Take dragon and continue on their merry way. It's so much fun watching that. It makes me question that Riot should have a logic puzzle on the game before they could play. Or just make a logic puzzle every time they log in. I'm sure a majority of these type of people would not be able to play LoL anymore.
I play a lot of nasus...this has happened to me a lot. I'm not going to lie and say that sometimes it wasnt my fault. However, most of the timem I planned to take 3 to top lane so that my team could take drags or towers. However people in bronze are officially retarded talk about taking no objectives and crying their eyes out for a nasus to group instead of forcing map pressure to split the opposing team up for easier fights for my team.
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Rioter Comments
: REMOVE AUTOFILL
well idk, but we just had a freakin autofilled supp who said nothing. Our bot lane starts winning, I'm like cool. Next you know, he starts leaving adc by himself and whenever the opposing appeared in team fights he would leave to split push. Literally a troll. I have never seen such shit in my life. We lost maybe 4 team fights because he ditched his team prior to the fight starting. Other team had a lot of cc so they would chase and catch up to my teammates. Prob lem was that I was splitting too as a nasus. I always thought " oh rakan isn't trolling anymore" and again my team was doing preety well if it weren'y for the rkan. our draven knew how to play and our kassadin was fed. I'm almost to the opposing teams turret like 3 or 4 of those team fights, and all I see is my team getting erased. why you ask? oh rakan decided to split. Trolls due to autofill. Sad thing is the rakan was not bad. He was simply just trolling us. Looked up his history and found out he mains mid and jg. Wins a lot of games too, but i guess he felt riot was trolling him with auto fill, so he decided to troll us and lose the game. I had over 500 stacks. I could literally 4 shot turrets, and yet this rakan wanted to troll so bad that he literally gave up on a very and I mean VERRRYYYY winnable ranked game. I reported him as afk and negative behavior since he wasn't really doing shit with the team, and since he wouldnt talk to us or nothing. However, I'm assuming that just like this shitty ass autofill system that this shitty ass ban system will do nothing about it. Frustrates the living fuck outta me.
: Carries cant carry
Ranked lol...winning lane against teemo as nasus. Oh no problem lets feed bot lane twitch. First team fight I get absolutely erased... Twitch goes on to win the game with a 13-3 kda Oh playing cho vs trundle top, somehow i get fed 3 kills in under 10 minutes due to their jungle's mistakes. No problem feed zed mid. goes on to win and 13-0. now this game lasted longer than the twitch game, but i was almost useless because zed was taking care of mid and roaming bot while jax started camping me and took towers with herald. GG. Can't carry, and can't get carried because people wanna feed like really hard. Don't understand that once you die, you are officially behind in items/gold, yet assholes dive in like they're ahead and good people pay the price with ranked games lost.
: What Is Wrong With This Matchmaking?
I don't know about you guys. I don't look at winrates as much as I look at Kda. In my last 4 ranked games, I lost 3. One my kda looks like shit as nasus; what you will not see is that I was countered by fiora and our bot lane literally lost tower in under 10 minutes. brand was 2-0 and the adc was 1-0. Following the fall of bot lane. I got ganked by brand and well gg. Everyone on their team snowballed. Then I won a game. Then I played nasus again vs a teemo lol. Won the lane hard. Think I was 3-1 at 1 point or another, yet again my bot lane feeds the god out of twitch. Twitch ends up going 13-3 in that game. erasing me and everyone else. Oh right, forgot to mention the trolls I had on my team. Apparently the 2-10 ori we had Which fed their ekko, thought I was toxic because I was defending myself against our trist's accusations of "engaging." She said something similar to why did you engage, I pinged you to retreat. Let it be known they had a blitz and I got hooked protecting tower. I'm preety sure that is not an engage on my part. Anyways 13-3 twitch GG Next game, im cho gath vs a trundle. I somehow get to a 3-0 start. Does it matter? NOPE. lol bronze is full of bullshit swear to god. Our ahri is 0-2 vs zed GG. Our shaco i practically trolling. First item he got was berserkers greaves.......... The opposing jax was raping our shaco. At this point zed was roaming bot so jax camped top. they took herald and killed me twice and took 2 towers. I get blamed by bot lane... Literally the 1 guy doing good gets blamed. Anyways fast foward. zed ends game 13-0. I end game 10-5, it's not about my kda, it's about the fact that I keep gettin teamates that don't mind feeding. What can I do to win lol. when people feed as soon as they can. I didn't even get a chance to roam to help other lanes, because I had to protect my own from the jax and trundle. If the other team wasnt so fed, I couldve used tp for ganking and such, even had my fucking Righteous Glory, but all I could use it for was to try and stop my lane's destruction. GG we got destroyed. I don't know how people deal with this shit, but I wouldn't mind ranked games if they were close games with similar kdas, instead I get bullshit feeders who can't help but feed almost as if that was the entire reason they're playing ranked, and I kid you not I feel sick to my stomach, wanted to cry. I seriously believe I deserve to be in atleast silver, and I get it silver is nearly the same shit as bronze, but fuck bronze man. Nobody deserves to deal with this shit It is tearing me apart emotionally having to deal with this shit. Knowin you're doing good, but withing 10 minutes another lane feeds so bad that your fed good self cannot do shit to make up for the bad they did in that lane. This matchmaking is utter fucking garbage, ban me from the boards I don't give a fuck because I am hurting real bad right now man this is ruthless fuckin bullshit. THen there are the ignorant people who say "if you don't make it out, you're probably not ready" fuck that shit, people who are not even close to ready are fuckin up my chances of getting out.
: She has the same weaknesses as other juggernauts, Slows, CC. Get a greivous wounds item to stop her healing and CC her when she ults and get out of her tentacles. She is a tough lane bully so if you lane vs one, stay behind minions and Dodge the e. Then harrass when her e is down. She is seeing more popularity because the other juggernauts/bruisers are in a bad spot.
not trying to be rude, but it's highly laughable to think that you can "get away" in team fights too. What do you do in team fights lol? Please explain. Do you focus her while the team kills your team. Do some of you focus her while the assassins and such go after their squishies resulting in the fed focusing her dying. I don't understand lol, now dont get me wrong i understand she has a weakness. but is it really a weakness if it forces you to zone yourself out? oh contest baron/elder/ dragon? no thanks walk away cus her ult is up. oh team fight... oh nvm her ult is up. like come on man. my team was ahead of the other team, but she basically beat our whole team. she wasnt even freaking fed. she simply could deal enourmous amounts of damage. and it took so long to kill her that their shitty ass adc was taking turrets. Again every champ has weaknesses, but are they really weaknesses they force you ti run away from objectives.
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Warios (NA)
: If they have 3 champs camping you, your other 4 teammates need to take advantage of that fact, since it will be 4v2 on the rest of the map. Won't be long and the 3 people camping you will need to rethink thier strategy, or loose objectives at a fast pace.
No it was their nasus who camped lol, I was just stating that their team was a trio.
: playing champs perceived as op then complain about not having fun because people dont want to deal with a scaled vayne or zoe lol.
> [{quoted}](name=fallenreaper88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AkYQ7xha,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-31T14:26:28.327+0000) > > playing champs perceived as op then complain about not having fun because people dont want to deal with a scaled vayne or zoe lol. I would like to remind you that they had a nasus, illaoi, an veigar in the same team lol
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Ghazter (NA)
: Tell me a single ADC that's not braindead and cheesy. The only thing going that ADC's need skill for is not dying, cuz they squishy as heck.
Completely understand, they squishy and such, but champs like jhin, vayne, kalista, ez, maybe there are more that i dont know about. but i know these are lil more skillfull compared to the kogs, jinx, twitches where they literally stand behind the fight spamming autos. that is all im saying
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Takazaki (NA)
: 1) your posting on a aram account it looks like so i cant accurately tell you whats going on 2) no its a you thing, i have 2 accounts i always leave 2 accounts in bronze just to prove that you can climb out (i've never been higher then g5)
> [{quoted}](name=Takazaki,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-01-28T16:11:42.890+0000) > > 1) your posting on a aram account it looks like so i cant accurately tell you whats going on > > 2) no its a you thing, i have 2 accounts i always leave 2 accounts in bronze just to prove that you can climb out (i've never been higher then g5) OH I apologize for the confusion. My main account is SlicingWinds. There was a bug last year where people could not log into their accounts. I could not for about half a week, so I made another account. This just ended up being my forum account lol. I try to have fun on this account and level it up through aram play. Once I get level 30 I will try my placements with this account.
WolfChases (EUNE)
: Mag I ask you something? How can you even be placed in bronze? I mean...seriously. 1st time I played rankeds I got placed in silver 3, rushed my way to platinum 5 in no time, stopped playing league for entire season 7, started playing at preseason 8 and played my provisionals, got placed gold 5. When season 8 started I got placed in silver 4 and rushed to silver 2 at 95 Lp after barely 15 matches. I mean, how is it even possible to get stuck in bronze or even be placed in bronze.
> [{quoted}](name=WeAreDeath,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-01-28T16:20:17.615+0000) > > Mag I ask you something? How can you even be placed in bronze? I mean...seriously. 1st time I played rankeds I got placed in silver 3, rushed my way to platinum 5 in no time, stopped playing league for entire season 7, started playing at preseason 8 and played my provisionals, got placed gold 5. When season 8 started I got placed in silver 4 and rushed to silver 2 at 95 Lp after barely 15 matches. I mean, how is it even possible to get stuck in bronze or even be placed in bronze. Well I've been playing for about a year honestly, and to be quite frank. I think I started playing ranked a bit too soon. Went like 2-8 in placements and was bronze 3. past 4 or so months I been more active on my ranked play. Managed to climb to bronze 2 with a different friend and again, as soon as I played a game by myself I went back down. Season 8 started I took placements and went 7-3 and they put me down to bronze 5... and that is where my story begins lol.
Ixoziel (NA)
: First, it's a small sample size. I've had games in plat where I've gone 20-6 and still lost because my team powerfeeds. Having a string of bad games today means nothing and you shouldn't stress too much about it. Second, just focus on your own play every game no matter how bad your team does. You will likely never play with those people again. All you can do is think about your mistakes, no matter how irrelevant they may seem, and try to fix them. If you went 10-1 think about that death and how it could have been prevented. Think about kills you might have missed that would have made you 14-1. Think about whether you were focusing TOO MUCH on kills and needed to push / do objectives. Would these things have mattered in the individual game? Maybe not, but there will be many games that are very close and where small improvements in your performance can turn the tide. Those are the games that matter because winning those will increase your overall winrate, which will move you closer to silver. Third, learn how to communicate with your team. Ping too much and everyone will ignore you / mute you. Flame people and they will never listen to you (on the contrary, they might get tilted and try to throw). You definitely have the right mindset when it comes to picking a tank if your team needs one. Even up to high gold people won't do that. You know how to think strategically but clearly there is something holding you back, you jsut have to figure out what.
> [{quoted}](name=Ixoziel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-28T09:26:11.839+0000) > > First, it's a small sample size. I've had games in plat where I've gone 20-6 and still lost because my team powerfeeds. Having a string of bad games today means nothing and you shouldn't stress too much about it. > > Second, just focus on your own play every game no matter how bad your team does. You will likely never play with those people again. All you can do is think about your mistakes, no matter how irrelevant they may seem, and try to fix them. If you went 10-1 think about that death and how it could have been prevented. Think about kills you might have missed that would have made you 14-1. Think about whether you were focusing TOO MUCH on kills and needed to push / do objectives. Would these things have mattered in the individual game? Maybe not, but there will be many games that are very close and where small improvements in your performance can turn the tide. Those are the games that matter because winning those will increase your overall winrate, which will move you closer to silver. > > Third, learn how to communicate with your team. Ping too much and everyone will ignore you / mute you. Flame people and they will never listen to you (on the contrary, they might get tilted and try to throw). > > You definitely have the right mindset when it comes to picking a tank if your team needs one. Even up to high gold people won't do that. You know how to think strategically but clearly there is something holding you back, you jsut have to figure out what. I understand, do you think I should just do regular games? At this point ranked is just stress added on and nothing more. Bad for health. About the pings... what you said is correct, but like if 1 ping doesnt drive them away from danger....sort of have to spam to make sure they understand is my thought. The talon walked into a 1v3 mid lane when he was 0-7 and died even after all the pings. Zoe was mid lane pushing hard when the enemy team got drag and she kept pushing. they collapsed on her only for her to barely escape and lead tehm straight to top lane. Where we rushed over trying to save her and ended up dying regardless. what kind of things should i be looking for to improve. like a checklist if possible. Could you list me some things please.
: > [{quoted}](name=IceFlareWind,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-28T09:03:38.219+0000) > > to be honest, u can consider me a 1 trick nasus. it used to be teemo got 600+ games on him, but again selfish picks force me to be the only tank. Yes I totally agree. so does my friend. silver and bronze have little difference, but in my opinion I would like to think that silver players have a bit more common sense. Not looking for penta kills with god mechanics from them just for common sense. Warding, not pushing too far, not engaging when you're behind, ect. in a meta where games are decided early, it's not very smart to play a late game tank that relies on being able to afk farm for the first 20 minutes. if you want to be able to carry games more consistently, play a champion and a role that has higher impact early. like jungle and any one of the hard carries you can play in it.
> [{quoted}](name=Psychicgammarays,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-28T09:35:24.850+0000) > > in a meta where games are decided early, it's not very smart to play a late game tank that relies on being able to afk farm for the first 20 minutes. if you want to be able to carry games more consistently, play a champion and a role that has higher impact early. like jungle and any one of the hard carries you can play in it. I completely understand what you mean by late tanks, however on a good day I get about 150-200 stacks at 10 minutes. That is a lot to fight with when we are all still lvl 6-8, and when presented with the opportunity, I tp bot and gank or roam mid. However even so, sometimes that is impossible due to the fact I cannot leave my lane because I'm falling behind a certain champ i am facing up against and had to use my tp to get back to lane (this usually occurs when jg is doing his best saving mid and bot lane from feeding.) I do understna what you mean though. I have been wanting to expand my top lane champs for a while.
: well first, you won't really face much better players in silver than in bronze. you can probably get out of bronze just by focusing on being a 1 trick tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=Normie White Guy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-28T07:58:46.290+0000) > > well first, you won't really face much better players in silver than in bronze. you can probably get out of bronze just by focusing on being a 1 trick tbh. to be honest, u can consider me a 1 trick nasus. it used to be teemo got 600+ games on him, but again selfish picks force me to be the only tank. Yes I totally agree. so does my friend. silver and bronze have little difference, but in my opinion I would like to think that silver players have a bit more common sense. Not looking for penta kills with god mechanics from them just for common sense. Warding, not pushing too far, not engaging when you're behind, ect.
: Omg, I know how you feel, trust me. I've been in Bronze for the past 2 seasons being too scared to try and grind out because of the frustration brewed in this elo. What I recommend honestly is to play duos ranked to get you out of bronze. You and your partner play carry roles, and you force your way out of the cesspool of 0/11 mid laners and junglers who forget smite. Using this tactic, I pushed myself from Bronze 2 to Silver 5 in two days. I hope it works for you, and feel free to add me if you want help climbing the shit-stained ladder!{{sticker:katarina-love}}
> [{quoted}](name=IcyRoseBunny,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=m1ud3UKa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-28T08:09:18.786+0000) > > Omg, I know how you feel, trust me. I've been in Bronze for the past 2 seasons being too scared to try and grind out because of the frustration brewed in this elo. What I recommend honestly is to play duos ranked to get you out of bronze. You and your partner play carry roles, and you force your way out of the cesspool of 0/11 mid laners and junglers who forget smite. Using this tactic, I pushed myself from Bronze 2 to Silver 5 in two days. I hope it works for you, and feel free to add me if you want help climbing the shit-stained ladder!{{sticker:katarina-love}} well that is the thing that I tried lol, even then sometimes we lost.
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dsearch1 (EUW)
: Ended bronze 3 last season. Now won 7 out of 10 placement matches, ranking s- or higher in 5 games. Placement: Bronze V. Well done riot #lmao #fail
same here man, i feel it riot is failing the "community" it trys to keep toxicity out of, but they don't understand how their shit system is literally and most like the core of the problem.
: 2018 Ranked Placements Venting post!
I don't understand at all, and I mean at f****** all why there are placements, if you're going to end up lowed than you finished last season. I'm a bronze player. Been playing ranked for about 4 months. First time I got placed Bronze 3 and it dropped to 5 and i climbed back to 4, It was a struggle since there were a shit ton of morons. Yes in rare occasions I was that moron. Anyways the first placements I went like 1-9/ 2-8. Hurray new placements new year new season NEW FUCKING OPPORTUNITY!!, but oh no fuck you and what you think you deserve to be. First game get destroyed due to another shit team. It's all good my friend told me I would be still playing with bronze-silver lvl ppl. Anyways continue forward we started duoing ranked. my friend goes from 1-3 to 6-4, and I go from 0-1 to 7-3 in my placements. I'm here thinking maybe placements are an even better method of ranking people than the actual ranked system.....boy was I wrong. FUCKIN BRONZE 5 FUCK THIS SHIT MAN. Yall know how fuckin hard it is to win games if yoou can't hyper carry fuckin fools in this elo? A rengar who wanted a fuckin kill more than a free drag, a viktor who was too fuckin prideful to run and stayed and fought an alistar till more of his teammates showed up. a useless mf who couldn't auto for shit. I just wanted to fuckin get into silver atleast so i could hope to play with more competent players because and this is afuckin fact. I AM BETTER THAN BRONZE, but fuck everyone right riot? Unless I'm gold+ and can hypercarry fuckin morons. I don't deserve a sliver of light out of this fuckin hell hole. Fuck this system, fuck mmr, fuck placements. since all of these useless pieces of work are utterly useless. WTF IS THE POINT OF CALLING THEM PLACEMENTS IF I AM JUST GOING TO FUCKIN GO DOWN A TIER. Fix your shit riot. I'm sure you assholes won't read this, but I'm sure there are hundreds maybe thousands more players who feel the same way. PLACEMENTS SHOULD BE PLACEMENTs. I agree, if they ended the season in bronze it should be impossible to get to plat or high gold, but fuck if someone gets a positive record they should have a chance of getting out of bronze.
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