: > [{quoted}](name=Tsuko,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1EIdaloR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-05T16:45:05.401+0000) > > Yeah except she can't do anything late game anymore, she's literally back to her prerework state except worse. She does just fine late game, she's a carry like bot lane or any other marksmen. She just doesn't absolutely skull fuck everything anymore, which was the entire problem with her before. Kayle got to the point of deleting anything she pointed at before they fixed her, and no champion should EVER have gotten to that point just by leveling up.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1EIdaloR,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-05T16:48:42.589+0000) > > She does just fine late game, she's a carry like bot lane or any other marksmen. She just doesn't absolutely skull fuck everything anymore, which was the entire problem with her before. Kayle got to the point of deleting anything she pointed at before they fixed her, and no champion should EVER have gotten to that point just by leveling up. The only reason to pick kayle is if there is someone on your team who is hyperscaling like {{champion:96}} or {{champion:67}} , otherwise {{champion:24}} is better in practically every other case. Jax has better lategame, better earlygame, is tankier, and has better teamfighting. --- In order to fix it, they need to add an additional buff at level 16, because +50 Attack range and 30 MS out of combat at level 16 is a bad 'powerspike' for the reputation Kayle has.
Tsuko (NA)
: Kayle got hit way to hard.
Diamond kayle main here, absolutely agree. Her level 16 is no more stronger than any other champions level 16. She feels more like OG Kayle then a reworked champion tbh. She's more like a kindred top that has the early game of nasus. Whereas before the nerf she played more like a toplane version of kogmaw
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Ieafboom (NA)
: What champs do you LIKE seeing on the enemy team?
As a top laner: {{champion:126}} - Not a very good champ tbh. --- These champs fill his role as a ranged top lane bully, but do a much better job: {{champion:133}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:518}}
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Loliver (NA)
: Who is the most stylish champion to kill with?
AP {{champion:35}} is really stylish
Barkley (NA)
: Diamond player with 45% win rate to Silver player with 49% win rate: "You're exactly where you should be, if anything you should be lower. Its your fault you're not climbing."
> [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q3u7I7fa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-10T20:25:17.354+0000) > > Diamond player with 45% win rate to Silver player with 49% win rate: > > "You're exactly where you should be, if anything you should be lower. Its your fault you're not climbing." It's really annoying when I get someone in my game with a 40-44% winrate at diamond 4 0 lp with no champs above a 51% winrate. Who flames me by saying: "u took hundreds games to get diamond" Even though I started in silver, have a 54% winrate and ~60%+ winrates on a majority of my most played champs.
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nm1010 (NA)
: 1. Yes, silvers are stupid so reading them is a lot harder. 2. Being dumb and blowing everything for a kill is certainly a thing silvers "do". But I don't consider that a better thing. 3. Again, playing with 0 regard for the enemy jungle to "harass" and "zone" is a thing, but I don't consider it a good thing. Sure the time they don't get punished it might pay off, but I frequently see plat players do this exact thing and int because of it. 4. Maybe the first tower, but low elo has the exact opposite style in my experience for every other tower. Get a couple kills at dragon? Time to recall with 75% hp to buy an amp tome + ruby crystal. Also worth mentioning this season is a dumbster fire in terms of competitive integrity. Boosting is at an all time high (nice cass, graves, and jinx wr s6 btw), people were climbing with as low as under 40% winrates at the beginning of the season. I personally know that one guy from these boards that is hot garbage and is sitting in low diamond with a low 40% winrate. Guy was silver previously, SILVER.
> [{quoted}](name=nm1010,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vawj3l84,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-26T15:01:12.981+0000) > > 1. Yes, silvers are stupid so reading them is a lot harder. > > 2. Being dumb and blowing everything for a kill is certainly a thing silvers "do". But I don't consider that a better thing. > > 3. Again, playing with 0 regard for the enemy jungle to "harass" and "zone" is a thing, but I don't consider it a good thing. Sure the time they don't get punished it might pay off, but I frequently see plat players do this exact thing and int because of it. > > 4. Maybe the first tower, but low elo has the exact opposite style in my experience for every other tower. Get a couple kills at dragon? Time to recall with 75% hp to buy an amp tome + ruby crystal. > > Also worth mentioning this season is a dumbster fire in terms of competitive integrity. Boosting is at an all time high (nice cass, graves, and jinx wr s6 btw), people were climbing with as low as under 40% winrates at the beginning of the season. I personally know that one guy from these boards that is hot garbage and is sitting in low diamond with a low 40% winrate. Guy was silver previously, SILVER. True, I normally get people in my ranked games who just seem too weak to be in diamond. They probably know they can't get diamond anymore and just play so they don't decay. Because the MMR so was terrible this season I was literally placed in silver, and didn't really start grinding ranked until early-june because positional ranks were such a turnoff.
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Cojak (NA)
: The Most Complex Champ
Skill floor wise? {{champion:136}}
: Super strange issue, especially since other accounts work just fine on your PC. I don't think I can directly help with this (since it's not really my area of expertise), but I'll drop this thread into our work chat and see if anyone might be familiar with what's going on. I'll also make a note to check back in on Monday, since I'm not sure who might see the message sent over the weekend. **Making the support ticket is absolutely the best first step** and ideally it gets looked at before Monday, but just in case, I want to try and get a few more eyes on it. I recently had a similar issue with my phone and hardware randomly being disabled when I logged into it with a particular account, so I can understand how frustrating this can be, especially when you feel like the support team isn't quite understanding the situation. I'll do my best to help out!
> [{quoted}](name=Riot 0xGradius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oViZ4Aed,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-07-20T20:47:21.321+0000) > > Super strange issue, especially since other accounts work just fine on your PC. I don't think I can directly help with this (since it's not really my area of expertise), but I'll drop this thread into our work chat and see if anyone might be familiar with what's going on. I'll also make a note to check back in on Monday, since I'm not sure who might see the message sent over the weekend. > > **Making the support ticket is absolutely the best first step** and ideally it gets looked at before Monday, but just in case, I want to try and get a few more eyes on it. > > I recently had a similar issue with my phone and hardware randomly being disabled when I logged into it with a particular account, so I can understand how frustrating this can be, especially when you feel like the support team isn't quite understanding the situation. I'll do my best to help out! Oh, the issue has been resolved by waiting, I believe it resolved itself after the 3-4 day mark. I appreciate you checking in though.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ieafboom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oViZ4Aed,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T04:44:26.769+0000) > > After submitting a support ticket were you able to play? nah i got lucky and it fixed itself after a while you are gonna need support help even then I don't think there's much support can do to help as its a technical issue.
> [{quoted}](name=ZeroAgainst,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oViZ4Aed,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T05:52:15.851+0000) > > nah i got lucky and it fixed itself after a while you are gonna need support help even then I don't think there's much support can do to help as its a technical issue. How long is 'awhile'?
: > [{quoted}](name=Ieafboom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oViZ4Aed,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T03:43:08.041+0000) > > I have since the day it started and I'm waiting on the response, in the meantime I made this post just incase someone on the forums is experiencing the same thing and has a solution i had this issue nothing you can do its all on riots end goodluck man
> [{quoted}](name=ZeroAgainst,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oViZ4Aed,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T04:36:49.833+0000) > > i had this issue nothing you can do its all on riots end goodluck man After submitting a support ticket were you able to play?
: submit a ticket
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oViZ4Aed,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-19T03:41:23.358+0000) > > submit a ticket I have since the day it started and I'm waiting on the response, in the meantime I made this post just incase someone on the forums is experiencing the same thing and has a solution
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: yea no....i already have 2 smurfs that i practice random champs with and they are in plat 4, my main is supp only and the other accounts i use to play all 4 other roles, both are in plat4-plat 2,
> [{quoted}](name=BoRnToKiLL666,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fOaTKRij,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-18T15:37:59.294+0000) > > yea no....i already have 2 smurfs that i practice random champs with and they are in plat 4, my main is supp only and the other accounts i use to play all 4 other roles, both are in plat4-plat 2, Well, I'm not saying that smurfs in general can't carry and silver is impossible to get out of. I'm just stating my experiences, and noting how my playstyle isn't compatible with silvers, but rather more suited with my regular elo. For some reason whenever I smurf and get to mid gold, I find that getting from gold 3 to mid-plat I tend to have a 70-75% winrate. Though my winrate in silver is really bad comparatively.
: that's interesting that some higher elo players can't carry in low elo because they don't need to solo carry in their elo so they forgot that skill maybe? that's pretty much how you win in any elo below your main you don't win it by team work and relying on your low elo team you do it by doing every thing yourself and never relying on anyone it's a sad reality but it's the truth iron - most games are hilariously easy to win people there just don't know much about anything in the game yet just play serious not troll pick something you never played that might or might not work and you auto win unless there are smurfs bronze- same shit except enemies are slightly better so it's harder to win silver/gold - same shit except enemies are a lot better so it's harder to win (disclaimer i didn't play much at all in this elo just from the games where i played against them thx to flex, provisionals, playing with higher ranked friends or just spectating their games)
> [{quoted}](name=LuxButt99,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fOaTKRij,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-18T14:25:15.744+0000) > > that's interesting that some higher elo players can't carry in low elo because they don't need to solo carry in their elo so they forgot that skill maybe? > > that's pretty much how you win in any elo below your main you don't win it by team work and relying on your low elo team you do it by doing every thing yourself and never relying on anyone it's a sad reality but it's the truth > > iron - most games are hilariously easy to win people there just don't know much about anything in the game yet just play serious not troll pick something you never played that might or might not work and you auto win unless there are smurfs > > bronze- same shit except enemies are slightly better so it's harder to win > > silver/gold - same shit except enemies are a lot better so it's harder to win (disclaimer i didn't play much at all in this elo just from the games where i played against them thx to flex, provisionals, playing with higher ranked friends or just spectating their games) Eh, the issue is more with my champ pool. I've gotten many accounts to plat with a 70%+ when smurfing and the solution is literally just play a lane bully and splitpush. You play champs that rely on your team and you lose. But teamplay and decision making is beyond terrible in silver. You go to splitpush and your team is holding mid??? Might as well go in 4v5, oh wait. We just lost the game, "wtf tryndamere why top?"
Unker139 (NA)
: Your problem is that you are expecting diamond play out of silver players. Your play may be good, but it is also dependent on teammates doing certain things and when they don't, it messes you up. You have to understand what your team and enemies are going to do at the level you are playing at. Do you think a silver player knows how to recognize when a lane has priority or what that even means let alone how to respond? If they don't then how do you get them to respond the way you need them to without flaming? If you can't do that then how can you adjust your play to be more effective? Also, don't forget that the other doesn't understand advanced strategy either so you can take advantage of that. I'm at low iron and when I play brand against another iron, I can poke the other lane to death, deny them cs and it doesn't matter how bad my adc is. Lately I've been getting in game with mostly bronze and they have figure out that it's not hard to dodge my pokes so I need to adjust what I'm doing...(I haven't figured out to what yet or I wouldn't still be iron)
> [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fOaTKRij,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-18T13:17:49.709+0000) > > Your problem is that you are expecting diamond play out of silver players. Your play may be good, but it is also dependent on teammates doing certain things and when they don't, it messes you up. > > You have to understand what your team and enemies are going to do at the level you are playing at. Do you think a silver player knows how to recognize when a lane has priority or what that even means let alone how to respond? If they don't then how do you get them to respond the way you need them to without flaming? If you can't do that then how can you adjust your play to be more effective? > > Also, don't forget that the other doesn't understand advanced strategy either so you can take advantage of that. > > I'm at low iron and when I play brand against another iron, I can poke the other lane to death, deny them cs and it doesn't matter how bad my adc is. Lately I've been getting in game with mostly bronze and they have figure out that it's not hard to dodge my pokes so I need to adjust what I'm doing...(I haven't figured out to what yet or I wouldn't still be iron) Your right, but honestly silver is so frustrating to the point where I'm better off on my main. Due to the pubstomp nature of silver, by the time I even hit level 11 on Kayle, generally an inhib is destroyed. Whereas in diamond I can generally farm to level 11 and my laners are good enough not lose a single turret, or at worse a tier 1.
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Ieafboom (NA)
: It's been 2 hours and I cannot make a game of any queue (Non-tft included), or join a lobby.
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: Why is League of Legends so polarizingly infuriating even for casual players?
I find the reason for toxicity is because it's frustrating to lose because of your teammates when playing ranked. You have to spend an additional 3 hours in order to get to the place you were originally supposed to be at if you had a top/jg/mid/bot/whatever that didn't have a bad game. 2x Losses due to feeding lanes turns into 6 hours, and instead of starting at Noon and winning one game to climb the ladder, you end up spending your next 6 hours of playtime fighting to get back to square one, with every single game be unstable bridge that can result in another loss adding +3 hours to playtime to get back to the same exact rank. Gets frustrating after awhile
: Is there any solution to 99 lp problem?
I find it balanced because the exact same thing occurs when you are 1-3 lp and have to lose another game to get 0 lp instead of being directly demoted. Additionally 99LP provides a safety if you lose another game then win another to get into series (Assuming your LP gain is atleast 1 higher than if you were to lose)
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: It's time to remove stealth
imagine playing twitch without Q, lmao
: Ranked Needs Changed So You Can't Duo Outside Your Tier (Bronze, Silver, etc.)
Honestly there isn't much of a difference between gold 4 and mid-silvers, the ranked restriction accounts for skill differences inbetween higher tiers though. IE: Diamond 1's can't duo with plat 4's
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: > [{quoted}](name=az2,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OekBIEga,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-10T09:08:28.974+0000) > > Proportionally speaking, it is harder to get diamond in flex than solo/duo. 3.5% of the playerbase is diamond+ in solo/duo, it is 1.1% for flex. its not harder to get it you can q with a diamond player and get carried
> [{quoted}](name=GiantsEyesWoke,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OekBIEga,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-07-10T10:08:31.354+0000) > > its not harder to get it you can q with a diamond player and get carried The restrictions on who you can queue with are relatively the same up until diamond 2+ for flex & solo/duo. (+/- 1 league are allowed queue up together in a party) And it's harder because once you get to plat in flex you get things like this: https://i.imgur.com/qI2ibs0.png
: > [{quoted}](name=az2,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OekBIEga,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-10T09:08:28.974+0000) > > Proportionally speaking, it is harder to get diamond in flex than solo/duo. 3.5% of the playerbase is diamond+ in solo/duo, it is 1.1% for flex. Well thats just because less people play flex
> [{quoted}](name=A Sutpid Idot,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OekBIEga,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-10T09:11:21.892+0000) > > Well thats just because less people play flex Oh my bad let me rephrase, 1.1% of the players who are RANKED in flex queue are diamond+, whereas 3.5% who are ranked in solo/duo are diamond+
: message to wanna be flex fakers
Proportionally speaking, it is harder to get diamond in flex than solo/duo. 3.5% of the playerbase is diamond+ in solo/duo, it is 1.1% for flex.
GigglesO (NA)
: Dumb Question about lane phase...
Not sure that's entirely right. There are some tanks that people complain about due to how strong they are in lane, namely {{champion:223}}
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