Keirm (NA)
: Tarzaned not banned.
Wintrading, in the past, has been banned at the end of the season.
Lulzius (EUW)
: Permabanned for a couple of bad words = death penalty for littering
It is highly unlikely you got a permaban as a first offense for a verbal case. Either you have gone through the cycle of punishments. 2 chat restrictions(possible to skip), 14 day ban, and then perm. The only cases they usually immediately perma involve death threats and etc.
Salter (NA)
: low iq small think. "i wasn't calling him a f*****. i was saying he was acting like a f*****." you would literally leave your moms basement to burn down your own city over that comment, if someone was willing to pay for your food and transportation that is. if you're calling me adorable, that means you regard me in a specific nature in which arouses you, that is objectifying me, it is SEXUAL HARASSMENT to forcefully objectify me without my consent. If I can't call your playstyle f*****, you can't make snide, sexually charged remarks to people either
> [{quoted}](name=Salter,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BFW6GHef,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-24T14:37:28.651+0000) > > low iq small think. "i wasn't calling him a f*****. i was saying he was acting like a f*****." Yes, that is how it works. An idea or the way someone acts can be described separately from the person. That idea is stupid, is not the same as calling someone stupid. > > you would literally leave your moms basement to burn down your own city over that comment, if someone was willing to pay for your food and transportation that is. I mean, this is stupid on multiple levels. My mom doesn't have a basement; I have my own house; and I do have a basement. Not going to take a "free" trip at the cost of burning down my home and city. > > if you're calling me adorable, that means you regard me in a specific nature in which arouses you, that is objectifying me, it is SEXUAL HARASSMENT to forcefully objectify me without my consent. Damn, guess everyone is into beastiality, and are also %%%%%%%%%s. Because %%%%%%%%%tell you how many times I hear people call pets and babies adorable. Why is that? Because it isn't sexual or arousable. Adorable definition: Inspiring great affection; delightful; charming. Now, that said, adorable is not going to warrant action unless said multiple times after being requested to not call them such. As it is fundamentally different from say calling someone sexy or hot. Hopefully the Moderation Team will let this part of my comment remain as it is relevant. I realize the beast and phile might be a bit much and toe the line of removal. > > If I can't call your playstyle f*****, you can't make snide, sexually charged remarks to people either I mean, you can call my playstyle that, but using a zero tolerance phrase is a poor choice. Again, and let me put emphasis on this, ADORABLE IS NOT A FUCKING SEXUAL CHARGED REMARK.
Febos (EUW)
: You're adorable! {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
That just reminded me of a scene from Detective Pikachu. Is it sexual harassment if the other can't understand you?
Kanzler (NA)
: Did OP think he would somehow get mocked less by making this thread? Hotaru is one of the few ~~mods~~ regular community members with a fancy title that will be blunt with you. It's a breath of fresh air.
Psst. Hotaru isn't a mod. He is just a regular community member with a fancy title.
oGlLionel (EUW)
: the fragility of the league community
Funny you should mention debate, because it goes both ways. Someone could post a criticism and when counter points get made the OP who posted a criticism resorts to "omegalul riot fanboi here sucking dick. Lelelelel". Yup, they obviously want a discussion and not simply yes men to agree with them.
: Why is my honor STILL locked?
Varies person to person, no set number.
: Riot associate Hotarm sexually harassing me.
First, Hotaru is not a Riot Associate. They are jist another community member like you and me. That blue tag doesn't give him any special power. Second, as Umbral already stated, Hotaru was not calling you adorable. He was calling an idea adorable. Sort of like when someone suggests something with misinformed information. As an example "Tyler1 got his accounts unbanned."; the response of "Aww, that's adorable. He actually didn't." It may be condescending, but that is it.
: Riot's broken punishment system.
Information missing, what type of game mode was it; Draft or blind? Draft there is a better case for punishing, but if that was the only instance of the Lux doing it, then just looks like an one off start attempt. that maybe raises a few flags but not enough for an automated ban. With the Teemo **Support** case there was already a history of the Teemo doing this; most noteably in matches with streaming streamers. Blinds, well, there are no assignes roles so wherever you wanna be is okay. Tyler1 was un-ID banned, no accounts were unbanned. ID bans are sort of a special case that do warrant reviews down the line. See previous remark about the Teemo already having a history of it before that game. If someone is trolling, is yelling/getting on them actually going to make them go "dur hur. You right. Sorry. Play real now." Probably not, so may as well not feed the troll. Singed case was another case of not coordinating with your team and forcing them into a strategy they weren't comfortable with.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Ax57lEvL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-23T21:20:52.724+0000) > > While there is negativity in the logs, can you please share some more information? Was this a permanent suspension or a 14 day? Have you had previous punishments? 14 day suspension. I have had previous punishments, 5, 10, and 25 chat restriction. Some of those chat restrictions I fully agreed with because I was being toxic but this game blows my mind. I have definitely learned from my previous chat restrictions to not be a jerk.
Like I said, there is cetrainly negativity in the logs, but it does seem like there should be more logs in this case. Obviously you got these from a support ticket, but does the reform card you get when logging in give any more games?
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Ax57lEvL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-23T21:20:52.724+0000) > Was this a permanent suspension or a 14 day? The first sentence clears that up
Yup. Tired and completely missed it. X-x
: Understanding why I was suspended
While there is negativity in the logs, can you please share some more information? Was this a permanent suspension or a 14 day? Have you had previous punishments?
: Is it a bad thing I get mad at my parents for disturbing me when playing?
It is an inherent risk when you are living rent free with parents. You are expected to do chores and requests in a timely manner. Been there, done that. You can ask them to wait while you finish your current game, and give a fair estimation of time left in the match. Granted it may not change anything as all parents are different, took ages to get my mum to understand that online games can't be paused, but eventually she gathered and would ask "When that match is done, would youbplease take care of this?" Tldr: if you aren't paying rent, frustration is expected, but real life responsibilities come first.
: refusing to communicate with the team is with in grifing. You can open a support ticket and ask riot them selfs.
Just to build on this and make something clear. You are not required to communicate with your team in the game itself. However, if you are going to do an off meta strat (double mid, double jg, etc) then you are supposed to communicate in that regard.
: I Continue to Be Disgusted With This Community (Bullies)
Hate to break it to you, but camping an enemy isn't against the rules. What they said may debatably be punishable, but if that is all they said probably not.
Raigarak (NA)
: So If I tell you I'm not toxic, that's the discussion? Or I can show the chat logs of all my game with 0 editing, to prove I didn't say anything toxic.
That would help yes, it may also be faster than watching a video. It also tells me that is was a verbal case and not something like troliling/griefing. Thank you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2pPc3n7s,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T23:08:31.375+0000) > > If you wouldn't mind, could you share the screenshot of the reform card. It used to not specify if something was /All or not. Am curious if it changed. Nope. Riot bans you for literally not being nice.
Literally has nothing to do with what I was requesting.
: Yeah I can do it once I get back home. Lets be real tho why would I change anything.
I think you misunderstand. ^-^ Previously the reform card logs never specified if something was in all chat or not. Usually the ones we get with that distinction come from support tickets. I'm not saying you changed anything, but am curious if Riot did.
: Actual this was banter towards to the opposing top laners who was bming me. These are just replies unfortunately without context.
If you wouldn't mind, could you share the screenshot of the reform card. It used to not specify if something was /All or not. Am curious if it changed.
: what if you could veto a champion pick in ranked
Clarity qurstion: What happens if you veto a champion pick after its picked?
Raigarak (NA)
: Exposing Riot Games for TARGET BANNING ME
Not watching a video in order to have a discussion as I am not in a location I can watch a video of unknown contents. Please consider actually typing words for people who cannot or will not watch the video.
: > The problem is that Riot take Steamers report way more serious then report from regular player.I am telling you right now I had 10 times worst trollers then This Nubrac guy and they newer get punishment. He had positive win rate with his strategy... And 1 report directly from Nb3 and he get banned...U think he would get ban if some regular player reported him...I guaranty you he would not ...Not even close...But when NB3 report then that is something else....
So... Because someone with some form of popularity gor banned in a timely manner due yo a pattern, means unknown people are getting of scott free?
: NB3 situation is pure example how Riot have no Shame
Something WookieCookie said when he commented about the punishment given. >Reporting players for trolling is not something only streamers have the power to do. I always encourage people to report through the client (obviously). But if you encounter a player that you think is behaving in a way to get around our systems then anyone can send us a ticket directly and we will investigate that situation. We won't take action if we can't determine a pattern of trolling or if we believe the player is making a good faith effort with their off meta play. But if we do see someone is consistently using off meta play as an excuse to troll people then we will intervene when we can.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xv3motdJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T19:27:46.640+0000) > > 1. If you have actual video evidence (multiple cases as one game doesn't guarantee punishment) of someone reporting a streamer after a game please share. People seem to forget that no report means no review. > > 2. [Here is a Rioter commenting on the case involving the ban on the Teemo.](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er61hxj/) > > If you are afraif of links here: I'm perplexed. Meddler asks that you inform your teammates of how your unusual playstyle works and such if possible when you do so. Nubrac did: he explained he was useful in that one game vs Irelia mid by effectively denying her farm and cc'ing (no auto attacks means very little damage coming from that champ), he wasn't taking cs, and he was providing safety/wards with his mushrooms. Regardless of what game he decides to take Teemo mid into, as Meddler said, intent to win is most important, and that's exactly what Nubrac was doing while NightPrick3 elected to verbally harass/threaten him with a ban by his Riot friend and AFK.
>This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. >However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources)** a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer.** If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. It isn't so much the pick itself as much as it seems the pattern is that the pick comes up most often with high profile streamers.
: After what NightBlue3 pulled, this ought to be a wake up call
1. If you have actual video evidence (multiple cases as one game doesn't guarantee punishment) of someone reporting a streamer after a game please share. People seem to forget that no report means no review. 2. [Here is a Rioter commenting on the case involving the ban on the Teemo.](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er61hxj/) If you are afraif of links here: >Gonna piggy back off this comment to address a few things! >Riot will not ban a player for off meta-play; full stop. If you're curious on our thoughts about off meta play you can hear it straight from Meddler here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAfm095tg >This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. >However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources) a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer. If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. >Reporting players for trolling is not something only streamers have the power to do. I always encourage people to report through the client (obviously). But if you encounter a player that you think is behaving in a way to get around our systems then anyone can send us a ticket directly and we will investigate that situation. We won't take action if we can't determine a pattern of trolling or if we believe the player is making a good faith effort with their off meta play. But if we do see someone is consistently using off meta play as an excuse to troll people then we will intervene when we can.
AvdicTata (EUNE)
: I got Low Priority Queue
You should probably investigate and figure out why the client is crashing so much. Check out the Hextech Repair tool.
: Norms are more toxic than ranked, change my mind.
It isn't my job to change your mind. You are entitled to your opinuon on the matter. Just like I am entitled to my opinion that a rhinoceros is simply a fat unicorn.
: The more i play League of Legends the less i want to play League of Legends
When you fight fire with fire, ypu risk getting burned. Alternatively if someoen is being aggro you can tell the team mate being targeted to mute the aggro player, and also mute them yourself. Boom. You defended yourself. Feel free to report post game.
: This is entirely a falsehood so please stop spreading lies about a topic which you don't know. Nothing said in this comment is entirely accurate so maybe stop spreading around falsehoods that people already refuted as there is evidence of this being untrue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er61hxj/ Literally what a Rioter said.
: Is a Teammate trolling? Just AFK
Except it is handled by the Leaverbuster system and still is.*
Kanzler (NA)
: Apparently saying that trolls deserve to be banned is not allowed on the boards
: This community is actually pretty wholesome
I see you are putting that Tuition Fee to good use... I'll see myself out. Glad that experiment was pleasant though.
: how do i stop feeders from entering my games?
Title answer: Stop Playing. There are people who are going to have bad games. There are people who are going to play impaired (or claim such). There are going to be people who troll/int. It's going to happen sometimes, and what matters from it is how you react. You are judged for your behavior when reported, not theirs.
: How does riot's system work? (school work questions)
Disclaimer: I am not a Riot Employee, but some of this information is available via FAQs on support page or search of Red Posts on the Forums. 1.It depends on how you want to define bot. The IFS (Instant Feedback System) uses a machine learning algorithm. It can notice trends and self adjust; making notes in a changelog, and can still be modified manually. Leaverbuster, which handles afks, is a simpler system. Gameplay, is uncertain; but believed to be human review. 2.Gameplay offenses and manual reviews if contested. 3.They get thrown out. Consistent false reports used to reduce report weight, and in the FAQ still says as much. However, Rioters have stated that report weight went away with the induction of the IFS. 4.Probably something they shouldn't share for a school report.
: Hi! I looked into that myself and mostly found that this section right here > a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer Is completely untrue and made up so um... What's the deal? I mean he wasn't showcasing negative reactions in his own stream and did it much more as a situational thing as opposed to one tricking it. Certain adcs can't really 2v1 as well and thus need him to be down there or other midlaners really won't benefit too much from him being there so he decides not to do it. But according to your logic towards this, if a streamer gets counterpicked by a champion the other doesn't play too often, they are only doing it to provoke a negative responce and is thus a bannable offense :)
Everything that was not in the box of my post was a quote from a Rioter, WookieCookie. So your questions, and claims of falsehood are not something I can address.
Nubrac (NA)
: So Why did I recieve a 14 day ban?
> [{quoted}](name=Nubrac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EtXQhs5J,comment-id=007a,timestamp=2019-06-16T01:32:11.753+0000) > > So Why did I recieve a 14 day ban? **So everything below this point is a response from Wookiecookie on the Reddit thread.** Gonna piggy back off this comment to address a few things! Riot will not ban a player for off meta-play; full stop. If you're curious on our thoughts about off meta play you can hear it straight from Meddler here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAfm095tg This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources) a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer. If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. Reporting players for trolling is not something only streamers have the power to do. I always encourage people to report through the client (obviously). But if you encounter a player that you think is behaving in a way to get around our systems then anyone can send us a ticket directly and we will investigate that situation. We won't take action if we can't determine a pattern of trolling or if we believe the player is making a good faith effort with their off meta play. But if we do see someone is consistently using off meta play as an excuse to troll people then we will intervene when we can.
: Nubrac had a 60 percent win rate on that strategy and NB3 has been known in the past for being toxic.
I kept hearing thw WR was like 48 or something.
rujitra (NA)
: Hi, I know much (all? not sure) of your comment is a quote but just poking in to add a couple things. First, maybe consider just putting the > before the quoted parts (you don't have to, but it'd make it easier for people with poor attention to differentiate your comments from Wookies). Second, just want to add that Riot hasn't commented on NB3's behavior yet at all to my knowledge, and they may very well be dealing with it appropriately. Lastly, if someone is specifically picking off meta not because it would be useful in that game, but simply to piss off streamers, that is targeted harassment/abuse and in my opinion makes it worse than even playing off meta in other games seemingly "randomly".
I clarified that everything not in the box is quoted from Wookiecookie. Wasn't clear to start with and that is my fault for being a lazy 🐼. No they haven't yet to my knowledge, but then again we don't actually know if NB3 got reported or not. Maybe the Teemo recorded/streamed him reporting NB3, but until we know for certain he was reported it is moot. Don't get me wrong, he is an ass and probably deserves a punishment as well, but if he wasn't reported that was a choice they made to not do. Agreed.
: waiting for an investigation because nb3 would have to be on drugs to act that stupid with that much representation.
>Response found on Reddit. Gonna piggy back off this comment to address a few things! Riot will not ban a player for off meta-play; full stop. If you're curious on our thoughts about off meta play you can hear it straight from Meddler here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAfm095tg This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources) a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer. If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. Reporting players for trolling is not something only streamers have the power to do. I always encourage people to report through the client (obviously). But if you encounter a player that you think is behaving in a way to get around our systems then anyone can send us a ticket directly and we will investigate that situation. We won't take action if we can't determine a pattern of trolling or if we believe the player is making a good faith effort with their off meta play. But if we do see someone is consistently using off meta play as an excuse to troll people then we will intervene when we can.
: Why NB3 is in the wrong
>From Wookiecookie on the Reddit thread. For clarity, everything not in this box is a quote. I'm lazy and quoting my part is easier. To be clear. Everything in this box is Imperial Pandaa. Everything outside is Wookiecookie. Gonna piggy back off this comment to address a few things! Riot will not ban a player for off meta-play; full stop. If you're curious on our thoughts about off meta play you can hear it straight from Meddler here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAfm095tg This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources) a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer. If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. Reporting players for trolling is not something only streamers have the power to do. I always encourage people to report through the client (obviously). But if you encounter a player that you think is behaving in a way to get around our systems then anyone can send us a ticket directly and we will investigate that situation. We won't take action if we can't determine a pattern of trolling or if we believe the player is making a good faith effort with their off meta play. But if we do see someone is consistently using off meta play as an excuse to troll people then we will intervene when we can.
: 4 man groups in sr
If tou want to simply vent, there is a Rant subboard now. ^.^ People shouldn't be unable to play as a 4 queue just because they can't find a 5th though.
: Nightblue3 got a teemo support off meta banned. - why nightblue is right
>Below is from Wookiecookie on the Reddit thread. Gonna piggy back off this comment to address a few things! Riot will not ban a player for off meta-play; full stop. If you're curious on our thoughts about off meta play you can hear it straight from Meddler here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAAfm095tg This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources) a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer. If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. Reporting players for trolling is not something only streamers have the power to do. I always encourage people to report through the client (obviously). But if you encounter a player that you think is behaving in a way to get around our systems then anyone can send us a ticket directly and we will investigate that situation. We won't take action if we can't determine a pattern of trolling or if we believe the player is making a good faith effort with their off meta play. But if we do see someone is consistently using off meta play as an excuse to troll people then we will intervene when we can.
: wtf is this getting down voted so much? Do people on the boards really support toxic streamers this much? This is a case where a person got banned for an off meta pick because of backroom dealings, not a good look for riot.
No, it is probably a combination of already tired of the spam for this topic (I count at least 5 on PB recent) and the fact that both players can be in the wrong (we just know for certain that 1 was reported). Edit: have you seen WookieCookies response on the Reddit thread?
Roxãs (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JkkrHnp3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T20:03:05.974+0000) > > Thank you, _finally_ someone gets it. > > Look, Teemo support or roaming Teemo support is not punishable on it's own, it is and should be punishable when you aren't cooperating with your teammates. Plenty of high ELO players (namely Doublelift and Jensen although a few others have come forward like Hashinshin, Yassuo, and IreliaCarriesU.) have come out and openly said that Nubrac doesn't communicate and is often more of a detriment than a benefit. > > Nightblue should be held accountable for what he said, Nubrac should be held accountable for what he did. There are no sides to pick here. then go ahead and get NB3 a 14 day ban too, otherwise its unfair and Nubrac should be free
Do we have actual video proof that someone from that game actually report NB3? If no one reported him, then as far as the system is concerned his behavior was fine.
: I checked my skin collection and opened my training mode, the skins I should get are locked. I even checked my gifting record and It showed that I received a chest but nothing else
Hmm. Interesting. Be patient with the support ticket, do not bump it. Bumping sends it to the back of the line.
: You're absolutely right. League's community has been going downhill since they decided not to adapt their infrastructure to the growing playerbase. Just look at your down votes. You pointed out a problem and people are booing you because it critiques riot. It's very common on this board unfortunately.
I was holding back to comment until I could get home and watch these matches because I seldomly trust someones word when it comes to bad experiences. Couple that with people frequently leave out other information, like the fact that the Pyke was 1/10/3. Yeah, he had 10 deaths, but it looks like he was trying and not inting. I'll also look at the game where OP went Shaco jg with 0/8/2. Because with his logic, he must have done it to be toxic/trolling.
: We did submit a ticket, but we haven't receive any response.
Maybe you did get the skins? Since thatbis the store, I think he can see what mystery skin you got.
: My Thoughts on Perma bans and 14-day bans
Ah yes, because filters block everything with 100% accuracy and there are 0 work arounds to by pass them.
: Is it just me or does Rito not care about the boards?
Some food for thought. 1. When there is controversial topic, such ad the NB3 thing, don't expect immediate response. There are procedures to be followed to determine what to say and what actually happened. Maybe they want to do an internal invesitgation first. Who knows? 2. There are some genuinely good topics/users on the boards, but there are also some troublesome ones. This means they need to pick and choose which ones to comment on. Even when they do choose to comment, is it worth getting x notifications going "omg thsi is actually op. Don't even play your own game", "lol plz kys.", etc? Gameplay will always be a heavily controversial board and I don't blame them for avoiding it. Not commenting =/= not reading 3. Official Forums are not a requirement to have. It is better to have some though to prevent falsehood/impersonations. Granted I haven't played CoD for a while, I don't recall their forums having a lot of interaction from those workers either.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oQN1qAOr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-15T02:55:22.559+0000) > > Depends, is it their behavior in game or is it thwie behavior irl on Twitch? Becauseif they aren't getting reported in game by their team (or opponents if involved), then that is their choice to bot report. If it is the Verbal activity on Twitch, that is more of a Twitch thing than Riot. It's the activity in the game. I don't care about a player throwing insults on twitch. I won't hold riot responsible for their poor behavior outside of their system. But breaking rules in the game itself should not be ignored for some people but not others. Riot should not have interfered. They indulged a witch hunt and used their power over the player base in the worst way. If the guy broke rules, the streamer shouldn't have to do much more than send a report. And the rule infraction for which he was punished is far into the gray area as it is. Not like he afk'd like the streamer did. Not like he threatened anyone, again like the streamer did. Not like he gave up and gave a free win to the enemy forcing his team to lose, again, like the streamer did.
Can you prove that someone in that particular game reported NB3? Not "well surely the Teemo did." because he may not have. As for the Teemo, that can of worms has come up before. The issue isn't that he is Teemo support, it is how he goes about it. Because he wants to do a variance and be mid, he is supposed to communicate the strategy with his team and needs them on board. Now, I don't know if the Teemo actually does this in the pre game lobby or not. Haven't watched the game and have no interest to.
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