: One of the main themes in the lore is challenging your preconception of what a god is. It's probably the most ubiquitous theme if you had to select a core theme of the League Universe. The fact that you have this question means you're reading between the lines. The writers frequently present us with godlike figures and then peel back the layers of their character and show us their weaknesses and some of their pettier motivations that betray them as human-like entities and less like the traditional ideal gods portrayed in our world. The only reason most champions who can be called gods are referred to as such, is because so called "lesser beings" say that they are. It's just a matter of scaling and perception. The Ascended are imbued with godlike powers, but their minds are full of mortal pitfalls. Azir suffers from pride, Xerath spite, Nasus hopelessness, Renekton insanity. The Darkin are much the same. Aatrox especially deep dives on it with his self-loathing and desperation. They only changed their bodies form but they are still very human where it counts. Not gods. The Freljordian deities are referred to as Demi-gods and revered by certain tribes in the Freljord, but in reality they are all just powerful spirits. Ornns' tales are all dubious as hell they simply don't sound like things that actually happened, but rather more like people using gods to explain the occurrences of the natural world that they can't themselves. Ornn and Volibears' sibling rivalry, Ornns affection for his followers and his melancholy after their deaths. All more classic examples of Riot portraying gods behaving like humans to make you question their legitimacy. Not gods. Lately we've been peeling back a bit on the Celestials too. These are beings who actually reside in the heavens. They manipulate events on Runeterra to suit their purposes. They can merge with mortals or control them entirely to enact their will. They embody abstract concepts that cease to exist when they do. They sound like classic interpretations of gods to us. Now with Pantheon we know that these abilities aren't hallmarks of their strength but rather glaring weaknesses. They don't control Aspects because they can they do it because they MUST. They need a go between since they can't physically exist on Runeterra themselves. Even the World Runes themselves are tools created by otherworldly beings so that they can craft the physical world. Because they couldn't create reality directly. And what happened when Pantheon assumed direct control of Atreus and went up against Aatrox? He died, the literal antithesis of godlyhood. Godhood as a concept is that we die... they don't. But he did and then Atreus KILLED AATROX HIMSELF AND ASSUMED HIS MANTLE. Now he fights against all manner of "godlike" entities while championing the power of man. This is the most direct allegory challenging the concept of godly hood and omnipotence we have seen yet in the lore. Aurelion Sol creates stars. Creation is a hallmark of godliness. Yet he's prideful and that pride led to his own downfall. He is now a "god" that lacks autonomy, which is laughably ironic and is by design. To make you second guess him. We also know that although he is old as hell, he isn't immortal he can die or be destroyed. Kayle is the reverse trope a human who wants to be perceived as a god. She sees mortals as needing guidance and naturally self-destructive and she tries to annihilate her emotions and personality to differentiate herself from us. It's clear she struggles though, she felt guilt towards her fathers death, rage at Ronas' death, and she has conflicted emotions towards Morgana. You're not really supposed to think "oh is Kayle a god" she obviously isn't (she's not even a legit Aspect) but watching the same god complex quandary, but in reverse provides context for the other "gods". The properties of godliness she is imposing on herself are the same that are happening with all the other godlike entities. Here it's more pronounced and obviously forced to make us see how silly pushing for godhood is. Her righteousness, stoicism and lofty purpose cannot cover up her humanity. The Watchers are other candidates for godlike entities. They come from a world of nothingness and are the biggest threat to Runeterra, the endgame. Their motivations are actually innocuous in a sense. Rather than for domination or because they are mortal enemies with the denizens of Runeterra, the Watchers want to destroy reality only because they don't understand it. It disorients them, it's antithetical to their very nature, and for this reason it must go. They even seem to harbor a childlike fear of reality. Their simple motivations lack the complexity of a true deities' "divine plan" and they react more like animals, blindly obeying instinct or like frightened children who cower from what they can't comprehend. Also just like the Celestials they cannot directly cross over to Runeterra. Last time it ended disastrously with Lissandra freezing them within the Howling Abyss, so they now use Voidborn to do their bidding. In-game Voidborn champs still have their unique personalities and sentience, but in the lore seem to be less than rudimentary beasts or drones. Not even sentient, made up of inorganic material and lacking in their own motivations. These crude mockeries of life are likely the best the Watchers could do to mimic life on Runeterra, because they lack contextual understanding of what life is. They aren't omniscient like a stereotypical god would be. Kindred relies heavily on mystery to work as a godly entity. We know that all things must die and eventually they will all meet the Lamb and the Wolf. We don't know if Kindred exists BECAUSE of the cycle of life and death or if they created it. Cause or Effect? Kindred works on another level because for me at least I find it refreshing that their power scaling isn't based on might like the other gods. They can't face off against an army like Ascended or scorch the terrain of Runeterra like Aurelion with celestial fire. No, their power comes from them inserting themselves into the natural cycle. Associating with something you can't fight, can't run from, can't resist: mortality. What makes me skeptical for now at least for me is the aforementioned nature of Kindreds' relationship with death. Is she actual death incarnate or merely a messenger of something that would come regardless? Which brings us to the final one. The entity that seems less god and more immutable law of the universe: Nagakaborous. We know next to nothing about Naga. Like Kindred the mystery shrouding the beings sometimes makes it seem larger than life. I do believe Riot will continue this examination with Naga in due time. In my personal interpretation is see a lot of parallels between Illaoi and Nagabourous and the Jedi and The Force. A religious sect assigning their own meaning to a property of the universe that doesn't recognize them as worshippers. Like a cult that worships time or gravity, the Jedi are guilty of putting their faith in a concept that either doesn't care about them or isn't even capable of doing so and it leads to a lot of chaos. Wouldn't it be interesting if despite Illaois' beliefs and ability to channel Nagas' power, Nagakaborous wasnt even sentient? It just did what it did because it does. No divine purpose it just IS. That would be a more interesting direction to go in rather than to constantly deconstruct these gods, but than say Naga is the exception: the only real one.... There are no TRUE gods, because a god is a construct that exists in a mortal mind. Gods exist to give meaning to mortal existence because a god is everything a mortal isn't. I now realize how long this post got with all of the examples. I definitely have to clean it up and make it it's own thread when I get back home. It's a topic that not to many people talk about, what makes a god a god beyond simply power scaling? Yet the game is so chock full of it that it may just be the core theme of League of Legends at this point.
Cool breakdown! If there was a master's thesis version, I would read. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: Hey Interlocutioner could I ask if you could share the names of the other items in Pantheon's arsenal
Hey Spideraxe, just to be clear, this is only head canon that I discussed with Kindlejack, since he was looking for a tiny nudge of inspiration when finalizing the design. **Tldr of the pitch** Each of the items that Pantheon wields as weapons/armor once belonged to a previous host of the Aspect of War. Imbued with celestial magic, they became holy objects, reshaped to reflect the god's power, and passed from host to host… until the Aspect of War died, and its power faded. Now whatever vestige of magic still exists within the objects must be ignited by Atreus’s will. Spear name: Skyfall / Host: Areion Shield name: Aegis / Host: Zeonia Cloak name: Solstice / Host: Astraea Helm: Nova / Host: Atreus
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Dienekes,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WGzO6lAz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-29T15:36:04.875+0000) > > Well. They removed his armor. Taking him from the character with the best designed armor in the game to the worst. His spear and shield are over-designed in ways that would actually hinder its use in combat. He now has a bunch of glowing crap around his head so I can no longer ignore the space crap. > > So yeah. I hate it. > > And that’s me done, guys. > > To Bioluminescence, you are hands down the best spokesperson for a company I’ve ever had the pleasure of interacting with. Keep being the positive map loving influence you are. > > To Ralanr working with you was great. Keep being awesome man. > > To everyone else, I sincerely hope you continue to enjoy the game. > > Peace out. That's a shame. I really hoped the new lore would convince you. I have been lurking during your arguments for a better Pantheon and better character design, but never had anything to add. I main Shyvana so from one neglected main to another, good luck. EDIT: Especially since I honestly believe him being on "team humanity" and not team darkin or team aspect was influenced by your advocacy for a common man fighter.
: Yeah, I can pass this on at the very least.
Passed it on! Also, a great way to leave feedback on stuff like this is the [PBE boards](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/)!
: I think KateyKhaos is one of the skin people, but can you pass this to whoever does the ahri skins + models? One of the biggest triggering things for me is the fact they "fixed" Ahri's out dated tail problems with Star Guardian Ahri . . . however, they never decided to carry it over to the other skins + her default when it'd bring a lot of quality of life to the character. I understand SG Ahri is a "Legendary Skin" BUT! Legendary shouldn't be just the literal fixes of an out dated model. There's a lot of potential to bring Ahri to life that's already built into the system. I just don't understand what's so hard about taking the time to do it? I mean just look at Jhin? He has A LOT of life built even into his default skin. He feels super good to play all through out. So does Akali. Meanwhile, you can REALLY feel the clunk that is Ahri when you play her default skin, and then swap over to Star Guardian. It's borderline Udyr quality. I guess I'm just over thinking this, and assume a billion dollar company would take the time to make one of their star skin sellers actually have a good rig to slap skins on, but I guess that's just me. I feel like you have a lot of opportunistic potential here that would really bring to life the new Elderwood Ahri skin that really doesn't take much effort to do while it's still in PBE. Also, you guys should fix her feet. They're still set up as if she's in high heels when she's not . . . I really hope you guys take this into thought while it's still in PBE.
Yeah, I can pass this on at the very least.
Rockman (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HHQXNbhy,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-31T03:02:07.122+0000) > > Yeah, sorry for the confusion Rockman! Pantheon's new story will go up soon (I think they usually coincide with launch on live servers). http://puu.sh/DZr7F/0c9b37276d.jpg This makes even more sense.
The [new Pantheon story](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/pantheon-fallen-story/) is up, fwiw. And I'm personally omega-hyped for [Lux issue 4](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/comic/lux/issue-4/0/)!! Please check them out if you have time!
: Skin description missing :(
We gotchu, Angry! * Guqin Sona and Iron Solari Leona descriptions are on the way in a few patches. * Full Metal Rammus should have a skin description (checks sundial) today. * Officer Vi will probably get updated along with all the other Officer, Riot, etc. skins. Eventually. Be patient for that one. Blessed be [Carnival Knights](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/na/Carnival%20Knights).
: What is this job called
Short answer, the job is called "narrative writer" here at Riot. (I was the narrative writer on Pantheon.) Longer answer. To write for games, my typical recommendation is for people to study screenwriting. It's the form of writing that's closest to a craft (like making a table), and not just art. It requires collaboration, clarity, and planning. It's repeatable and standardized. These are the kind of qualities that can help companies not waste millions of dollars. And if you have screenwriting (TV, movie, comic etc) credits, that helps on the job market too. It's a sign you have more than just ideas. You've built words and stories in the trenches. No degree is required, though... it's about passion and luck, and talent, but talent only after the others. Passion and luck can carry you past the limitations of talent, if you're willing to bleed into your keyboard. (Does it sound like I'm typing from experience? Because I'm typing from experience.) Anyway, one final bit of advice. If you want to write games... you should write games. It's easier than ever to build your own projects from the ground up. Easier than ever still means it's _really, really, really hard_. But getting past how hard it is is the first step. No one will hire you to write if you haven't already written. Put in work at the keyboard, chase every opportunity you can. Then wait for luck.
: Oh and back to the Aegis of Zeonia, could you share who Zeonia is
A previous host to the Aspect.
: Is she even Connected to Pantheon now?
(The unnamed Aspect of the Sun in his bio.)
: Could I also ask which project you had the most fun working with JAlbers, Panth, Swain, Nunu or the next new champ
When I work with Riot Earp, he's the champ. (But probably {{champion:20}}.)
: Hey Slagle could i ask if Pantheon's shield is still called the Aegis of Zeonia
Unofficially, yeah. Kindlejack and I named all of the items in Pantheon's panoply. That one stayed Aegis (hence the E ability name), originally wielded by Zeonia.
Rockman (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HHQXNbhy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T00:17:18.406+0000) > > The short story is actually nothing new, it was added back when {{champion:136}} was released and they updated the targon-lores. > > Overall it might simply refer to one of the solari seer(as they do have some) or {{champion:16}}, who was likely planned to be connected to targon back when the targon-update happened, even if she didn't receive a lore update back then. Mmmmmmmmmm That would make sense. The Wiki has Soraka as the Seer but I don't know any concrete proof.
Yeah, sorry for the confusion Rockman! Pantheon's new story will go up soon (I think they usually coincide with launch on live servers).
Wolfeur (EUW)
: Does that mean the Battlecast as well?
Battlecast is its own skin universe, humans fighting an army of robots made by Creator Viktor. More Terminator than WWE.
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: Hi, what about Full Machine Viktor?
: nice! does this include Sad Robot Amumu as well?
Not at the moment, not sure if there are any plans for him. I can check though!
Terozu (NA)
: Hey can you settle an argument for me? In the Glaive Warrior skin, is the mounted wolf head in the back both a reference to Wolf in the Kindred and Dacian, or just Dacian Draco?
It's a Dacian Draco. The skin was originally created to [celebrate the launch of the Romanian client on EUNE](http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1797534).
: do you mean all of the Full Metal skins? Jayce and Rammus included?
: Ah. I see that now. Thanks for the correction. Also, am I correct in my assumption that Full Metal is now Hextech, or is it still "Full Metal Pantheon" and it just looks like "Hextech Pantheon"? Also, hello. I don't believe I've seen you here before. Unless you're a Rioter I've met previously and you've changed you name.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=d88UEUAY,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-29T17:09:46.023+0000) > > Ah. I see that now. Thanks for the correction. > > Also, am I correct in my assumption that Full Metal is now Hextech, or is it still "Full Metal Pantheon" and it just looks like "Hextech Pantheon"? > > Also, hello. I don't believe I've seen you here before. Unless you're a Rioter I've met previously and you've changed you name. What up 4 Step! I've been around, just haven't had anything released for a year, so mostly just lurking on the boards. The Full Metal skins are now part of the Nunu & Willump Bot skin universe, as some [players have theorized](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8faed2d442e40d4c952e17d909c690e212b6026d574238a90ce237a039fcb476.png).
Sukishoo (NA)
: Pantheon and those awesome splashes!
Myrmidon is the one with lava, Glaive Warrior the one with Carpathian mountains and the Dacian draco. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Was he always left handed? I never noticed this b4.
> [{quoted}](name=JhonTeemon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AXAr2NGO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-29T16:58:51.522+0000) > > Was he always left handed? I never noticed this b4. Yep, he was always left handed. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BZdX7bNA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-25T15:23:08.495+0000) > > Please correct me if I'm wrong—like Yasuo corrected Riven—but I think she pronounced it "fare." And he's saying, it should be "fah ear," like the Spanish vowel ir. The vowels don't combine, since there's a hidden break in the middle of the word. > > You could make an argument that maybe it's meant to be pronounced "fah ur," like the ir sound in irk. But I personally theorize it would've been spelled differently by Thermal Kitten (aka Ariel) in that case. It also doesn't sound quite as exotic and cool... it's basically just father with some letters removed! > > So tldr, Riven's Ionian is so _horrible_, it's not even fa-ir. hi writer guy :) who do i go to to annoy with questions about ixtal?
> [{quoted}](name=EROTIC RAID BOSS,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BZdX7bNA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-25T15:40:53.519+0000) > > hi writer guy :) > > who do i go to to annoy with questions about ixtal? I'd recommend the boards in general! Other players might know, or Scathlocke might pop up when you least expect it... right behind you.
: How do Ionian People say "Father" in their own language?
Please correct me if I'm wrong—like Yasuo corrected Riven—but I think she pronounced it "fare." And he's saying, it should be "fah ear," like the Spanish verb ir. The vowels don't combine, since there's a hidden break in the middle of the word. You could make an argument that maybe it's meant to be pronounced "fah ur," like the ir sound in irk. But I personally theorize it would've been spelled differently by Thermal Kitten (aka Ariel) in that case. It also doesn't sound quite as exotic and cool... it's basically just father with some letters removed! So tldr, Riven's Ionian is so _horrible_, it's not even fa-ir.
xScarfy (EUW)
: Does Swain have a special interaction with Yordles?
This sounds like [Swain's Piltover taunt](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/2d/Swain_154.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20180124090844) (which now plays as a "First Encounter" line). It's "gilding" rather than "glamour" in English, which probably makes more sense. Swain is saying the fancy-shmancyness of Piltover is built on murder (and gilding is gold applied to the surface of an object, to make the whole thing seem golden). Edit: Yep, Lewanor figured it out!
: I was saying it because it was April Fool's. It was supposed to be a joke, sorry. I don't hate m/f ships, just would like to see more of non-m/f ships. Sorry for any misunderstandings. And my post made you think of a graphic novel? That's... Interesting. Maybe I'll check it out. (Please don't actually kill me, it was just a joke I'm sorry)
{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: I love every single reply to this thread. But for mine? All the canon relationships in League aren't actually true. None of the Champions are straight. None of them, and there are no m/f relationships. .... April's fools... Hm. There's a part of me that wants it to be true. Oh well.
Do you say this because you hate ships in fiction, or do you just want to see more non-m/f relationships? I read a graphic novel last year called On a Sunbeam that did the latter—don't want to say why/how to spoil any surprises. But perhaps it will intrigue you that your post made me think of it.
: A rioter commented on my post. I feel special
If [breakfast cereal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_K) can be special, you can be special.
: Warwick got the best rework of all time
: What if he picked his nose
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AXwbTwqU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-15T15:33:23.970+0000) > > Swain's writer here. The arm itself is made of pure demonic magic, the same thing he shoots with his Q. It's held together by Swain's force of will and concentration. If you look closely, you'll see there's some opacity to it; it's not solid or grown. > > The demonic magic, as a whole, holds Swain together, and helps him overcome the grievous wounds he suffered in Ionia. He has a leg brace and still carries a cane (i.e., has one on hand, just in case), because even a bad ass like Swain knows he can't concentrate 100% of the time. He is the type of man to prepare for contingencies. > > The demon is a demon of secrets. It's why Swain hears whispers when he collects souls, and why he's haunted by visions of a dark future. Saying anything more is kind of against demon of secrets policy. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} > > (Sleight edit for clarity above.) Haunted by visions of a dark future? That dark future wouldnt be an ice age now would it? Or fear of a bigger mastermind than him ruling? :)
Dark enough to scare a guy who was inside the Immortal Bastion, eye-to-eyes with a demon.
: > [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=eekdIeA2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-13T00:02:20.026+0000) > > There's been one official contest that I know of, through [Polycount in 2017/2018](https://polycount.com/discussion/198871/riot-creative-contest-2017-winners-narrative#latest). The winner was a player active on the boards, [Blood Magicks](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/EUW/Blood%20Magicks), and she ended up writing Vlad's AWESOME[](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/vladimir/) [new bio](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/vladimir/) as well!! > > Unfortunately, I haven't heard of any new contests, including the contests run by EUW/EUNE. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} > > But I can say, it's a long term goal for the narrative team here to bring in new voices, and harness the passion of our fans. There have been mysterious conversations. I saw an contest for Snowdown a while back on the EU servers run by Riot's UK office. I saw one(that closed a week ago) that was for Kayle and Morgana. https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/fan-fiction/8gO5BIqX?show=flat Here's the snowdown one. I want a few for NA. :{{sticker:cass-cry}}
: Question on swains arm?
Swain's writer here. The arm itself is made of pure demonic magic, the same thing he shoots with his Q. It's held together by Swain's force of will and concentration. If you look closely, you'll see there's some opacity to it; it's not solid or grown. The demonic magic, as a whole, holds Swain together, and helps him overcome the grievous wounds he suffered in Ionia. He has a leg brace and still carries a cane (i.e., has one on hand, just in case), because even a bad ass like Swain knows he can't concentrate 100% of the time. He is the type of man to prepare for contingencies. The demon is a demon of secrets. It's why Swain hears whispers when he collects souls, and why he's haunted by visions of a dark future. Saying anything more is kind of against demon of secrets policy. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} (Sleight edit for clarity above.)
: Fanfiction Contests(Rioters plz)
There's been one official contest that I know of, through [Polycount in 2017/2018](https://polycount.com/discussion/198871/riot-creative-contest-2017-winners-narrative#latest). The winner was a player active on the boards, [Blood Magicks](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/EUW/Blood%20Magicks), and she ended up writing Vlad's AWESOME[](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/vladimir/) [new bio](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/vladimir/) as well!! Unfortunately, I haven't heard of any new contests, including the contests run by EUW/EUNE. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} But I can say, it's a long term goal for the narrative team here to bring in new voices, and harness the passion of our fans. There have been mysterious conversations.
: How does Urgot use the bathroom?
Urgot doesn't use the bathroom anymore, [because he vapes](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/eJOWoJ7Z-just-a-reminder-that-graves-vaping-is-canon) and [lays eggs](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2018/02/ask-riot-leveling-up-in-honor/) instead. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} That explanation makes perfect sense and I'm not just avoiding the need to answer a disturbing question.
: Hey Interlocutioner can I ask if you’re working with certainlyt and kindlejack to create Zoe 2.0
I'm excited to be working with Kindlejack for the first time, and CertainlyT for a second (we were on Warwick together, awooooo! Wolfpack. Etc.)
Larriet (NA)
: I wish we could choose any champion as Bots so I could test this in Practice Tool/see which lines have moved, but I'll make do with what I have and try to give feedback!
Yeah, the wiki (which I personally reference for quotes all the time) is gonna be a bit funked up for a while too... Maybe someone who happens to know what changes were made could find time after the patch goes live to update the quotes pages, at the very least. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Could you detail how the tech works? I absolutely love the interactions but there are cases where in unsure if the window for triggering them has passed or if it just hasnt worked or something. Do the champs reply to an encounter line like a conversation or do you just hear one or your champ? As for requests id love it if some of the Ascension only voicelines for the Shurima champs were put into this system or into their voice overs as a lot of lines are going unused when champs like Renekton and Xerath would really benefit. As a Tahm Main, thank you so much for this feature! I hope you add skin compatibility too!
I believe First Encounters literally only trigger during the first encounter. This means that if your character is already talking, or has said something within the "global cooldown" window, the First Encounter line will not be heard. This legit drives me insane as the writer! I want people to hear Urgot's taunts when he grinds enemies up, the ravenborn whispers gathered by Swain, and Nunu's sad revelations about Anivia. But the game is chaos and we currently have no prioritization or queueing of VO, just "cooldowns," and the rule that only one line can play at a time.
Krabohod (NA)
: So.. Will Tahm ally lines be added in the future? Or he'll remain as he is?
We might be able to sneak it into a patch here or there (no promises). I'll check with the VO designer, Riot Zimberfly!!
Falrein (EUW)
: Yeah I totally get the issue! It doesn't feel good when a VO is updated and the community doesn't like it (I'd even say it kinda sucks having put so much effort and ressources for something that isn't received well...)! While I do agree that completely changing a champion's VO is super risky, there are some champions that don't have much voicelines, but have good voicelines. I know I'll always use the same example (and I apologize for it), but Syndra is one of them. I don't really know if you'd consider it or not, but I'd like to ask how you feel about that: How would you feel about adding some voicelines to a character, without changing any of those they already have? We've mentionned that quite a lot on the Lore of League server, some champions have great lines but their set is limited. I'm mostly interested about what you think about it, and if you think it could be more beneficial/less risky! Anyway, thanks a lot for your answer {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
Yep, this is something we're looking at!! Very, very intensely. https://giphy.com/gifs/dwayne-johnson-m3CpjuFniQ8sU
Larriet (NA)
: Were you around when they asked the community about Nautilus before the Bilgewater update with Pyke's release? I feel that's exactly the kind of thing you're looking for and I wish they'd do stuff like that more often.
Meddler's article covers how we did this for the Miss Fortune VO as well. It's because of player feedback that we took a step back. But sometimes what some players want isn't what the character, game, IP, even _other players_ need. So we do make changes to characters, we don't just throw our hands up and walk away. My apologies if, in showing nuance, it felt like waffling. I personally believe we do what you recommend, and I agree with you in recommending it.
Falrein (EUW)
: ~~Could you add some quotes to Syndra?~~ Seriously tho I think this was a great idea but what about champs that don't have specific taunts but that don't need any in-game update (as I stated before, champs like Syndra and/or Zyra), would you ever consider adding some? This might be out of your domain, and if so I'm sorry to bother you with tha, but I was wondering ^^!
We've done a bit of this in the past! I wrote new new lines for Lux, and Maokai too when he was updated in the Tanks class update. I think it's actually more difficult for a company Riot's size (vs. an indie company) to make these sorts of changes, since there's cost involved (casting and recording VO across a dozen-ish languages), and anything that requires investment has to be weighed against all the other things going on that require investment. VO is also a really important part of a character, and making changes to characters always carries its own risks. I know we felt better about shipping the Maokai updates than Lux (who was a huge risk, IMHO, we'd never done something like that before), since his new lore had already shipped and he was getting new gameplay, so it was kind of like a mini-VGU. But even that update was controversial due to different ideas of who Maokai should be, what he should sound like, etc. [Meddler also wrote a post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/irL2yrul-quick-gameplay-thoughts-october-12) about how this sort of thing led to Miss Fortune's VO update being canceled, if you don't mind extra reading. We haven't given up, we'll keep looking for opportunities. Just want to provide context why some of these characters remain out of date. We want to do it right, when it makes sense.
: We knew you guys could do it. Small indie company is evolving
It was Reav3's idea. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}} I worked on it a bit with LtRandolph. It's not mentioned in the patch notes, but not every character/faction-specific taunt was moved over. Some didn't make sense (in our opinion), or 2 out of the 3 options didn't make sense... And there were tech limitations as well. For example, we couldn't combine Tahm Kench's ally and enemy taunts without requiring everyone to download a bunch of sound files again, bloating the patch size (a big issue in some regions). So only the enemy taunts became first encounters. Basically, you're right. Two person indie project. Looking to make the most value with the least negative impact!! If anyone who happens to see this post notices anything wonky, or has suggestions for their favorite champs, please lemme know.
: Ekko would never ever join Urgot. He wants Zaun to become a better place for the poor and weak, he would definitely hate Urgots philosophy of social darwinism. They are on complete different sides of the moral spectrum.
What Urgot might say to this: [Belief is like steel. The stronger it is, the easier it is to break. ](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/1/15/Urgot.tauntEnemyEkko.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20170918211618)
: Is this where she cosplays as Swain cosplaying a Sultan? some sort or cosplayception thing?
[Both?](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/agadae/sultan_swain_skin_fanart/) {{sticker:poppy-wink}}
: Which Skin line will Ahri invade next? [Poll]
I'm really looking forward to Sultan Swain Ahri.
: i did notice the news about it, but i fear they may do something that the community will be very disappointed about this whole partnership, and the question that i basically said to myself when i saw the couple of comic pages they had already developed; "why is ashe a blonde instead of having albino white hair".
I'll put it this way: WAAARGHbobo don't do accidents. I hope as more info trickles out, you'll start to get hyped!! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
: you guys plan on going further in depth for frejlord, i read the details related to both ashe and tryndamere, and was surprised to know that ashe was actually forced to marry tryndamere in order to not start a fight between his tribe and hers; and when i started reading sejuani's lore it almost looked like sejuani would've gladly joined ashe's tribe, if it wasn't for the big mouth of the envoy that ashe sent in her place while she was attending other visit to neighboring tribes; sejuani was surprised to see such kindness offered to her tribe where many other tribes committed banditry towards them and raiding what little sejuani's tribe had for themselves. And when i look at lissandra, i feel like she isn't the real villain but being misunderstood of her objective, the creature of which she is keeping frozen in ice was apparently so powerful that lissandra has to sacrifice the power of which her sisters possess and even then it still wasn't enough to end the creature, but magic infused ice was able to keep the creature in place and frozen, at this point she made it her objective along side surviving members of the conflict to search these magic crystal and use it to keep the void creature frozen; though i do not believe that worked as well, who is to say that the void creature isn't feeding off of the magic infused ice crystal and isn't far from powerless but has the capabilities of manipulating the minds of those around it, but fears of manipulating lissandra cause she was a good tool to go out and collect these crystals and if lissandra feels she is being manipulated into doing this she will completely stop the search for these crystal and find other means to destroy it, so instead of manipulating her it decided to take control of the survivors known as the "Frozen Watchers". With the cinematic video that was related to ryze and his goal, it showcased a creature within a frozen wall (of which the creature became frantic in obtaining the power of which ryze was holding), who is to say that this was the same creature of which lissandra put so much effort into stopping, and if this is the same creature then it only proves that lissandra's efforts is all for not and the creature is far from powerless and may be a more lethal breed of void creature then what is already known. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} My head hurts after i did so much research within the lore behind the frejlord, though this isn't the first time i dove too deep within the lores inside of this game or the lore in another game.
We just announced a partnership with Marvel comics!! WAAARGHbobo is working on the first one, which will have some Freljord goodness! https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/marvel-and-riot-games-reveal-new-league-of-legends-special-edition
: Hey Slagle I heard you were working with August on a new champ, anyone else on your team
[I read a rumor about it on Reddit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/a69l00/riot_august_is_designing_a_new_champion/)
: I've been loving the lore this year! There only misses I was sad about were Kai'sa's story's lack of variety and shortness (meets some boring guy and kills void monsters in the comic--she should be seeing incredible and horrifying things!! Kassadin is my favorite champ so I'm greedy), and Ezreal's character being a bit overwritten and hate-able in his journal of wrecking that ruin under Zaun. The Eye in the Abyss, the Jungle expansion, the Vastaya's involvement in many stories, the Darkin and the incredible reveal about their origins, world runes, THE VOID: --an amazing year for worldbuilding. {{sticker:sg-jinx}}
And Voyboy winning a 2v2 tourney!! I'll have to check with Scathlocke, but I assume that was written by Graham McNeill.
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