: > [{quoted}](name=JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cmg3AUie,comment-id=0039,timestamp=2018-09-28T08:57:21.422+0000) > > If you really wanna fuck lethality players over, stack health. > > {{item:3027}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3152}} > > All these items work very well against lethality users, coming from a lethality user myself. Get 1 cloth armor, then get whatever health AP item you want, then finish ninja tabis. I can't build all these earlygame lol, the damage is already done by the time these items are completed. The main focus for this post is earlygame mostly because everytime I build Seekers and Zhonyas it brings in disappointing results.
> [{quoted}](name=Y0U ARE TRASH,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cmg3AUie,comment-id=00390000,timestamp=2018-09-28T09:01:40.940+0000) > > I can't build all these earlygame lol, the damage is already done by the time these items are completed. The main focus for this post is earlygame mostly because everytime I build Seekers and Zhonyas it brings in disappointing results. Just build {{item:3010}} first. Trust me, I know what counters my own champion. People say "Just stack armor against lethality/armor pen", theyre not right. Stack health items and like 1 armor item, can be Zhonyas/tabis/an actual tank item.
: Lethality is a HUGE middle finger to all mage midlaners.
If you really wanna fuck lethality players over, stack health. {{item:3027}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3152}} All these items work very well against lethality users, coming from a lethality user myself. Get 1 cloth armor, then get whatever health AP item you want, then finish ninja tabis.
Jocelynn (NA)
: STOP GIVING RIOT DUMB IDEAS ABOUT EVIE CHANGES!
54e5qhb (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vohrhKoM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-28T04:50:52.466+0000) > > The punishment for breaking the rules **is supposed to annoy you** always has to be that one guy that is trying way too hard to salt the wound and couldn't see the forest for the trees
Just play a different game while waiting lol, not hard at all.
: I'm real tired of the same champions in every game
Top: {{champion:122}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:24}} Jungle: {{champion:121}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:24}} Mid: {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:103}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:99}} ADC: {{champion:202}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:67}} Support: {{champion:12}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:25}} If your team mate isnt playing one of these champions in that specific role, then you better pray to god they're either a one trick, play safe, or at least have 10+ games on their champ. Otherwise youre practically asking to lose.
: top players in every region abuse these champs
{{champion:84}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:104}} Are the champs that need nerfs right now
: When you're against a tough lane opponent
(╭☞ꔸ□ꔸ)╭☞ Get dis here anime off my boards peasant.
: Nah kust keep buffing everyone until everyone feels unique again and the op bs starts to balance itself out bc of other op bs
Keep buffing everyone and everything you get what we have now, people killing eachother in less than 2 seconds and team fights that only last 5-9 seconds.
: I was hardstuck bronze 2 years ago and finally climbed up to silver and eventually to gold 3 whilst blaming my teamates for every single mistake I made or complaining about not being able to carry. Made a new account, placed silver 2 and climbed to plat 3 in 200 games. Your teamates are not the reason you're losing. You're losing because you don't understand the game well enough.
Youre wrong bud. Season 8 doesnt take any skill at all to rank up. Ive seen many players in plat that said they were bronze a few weeks ago and are now in plat elo. I also have a friend that was plat 3 last season as an adc main, and is now diamond 4 or 3 as a jungler main. This season is all based on luck, doesnt take much skill to rank up. RNG decides if youre ranking up or down.
: Lethality is a cancerous design and needs removed. Plain and simple. I love {{champion:21}} but I cannot stand this lethality is a must bs on her. {{summoner:14}} is also an overturned summoner spell. The damage is so high to the point where I don't even want to play adc.
Its not lethality, its just damage as a whole. You can see tanks/bruisers/mages landing 1-2 abilities and still doing 50% of your health. Ignite does 200+ true damage on top of that. Look at fizz, leblanc, darius, eve, kayn, etc. They land 2 abilities on you and youre pretty much guaranteed to die whether theyre fed or not. Hell they can kill you in less than 4 seconds at level 6.
: Sure! Swain is corrupted by dragons, Morde corrupts dragons with his evil, and Zyra controls dragons directly -- kind of like an evil Dragon Trainer.
: Given the kind of things the boards post, I hope they never do. The second they ever do, that will be the actual death of the game. Also, something you seemingly missed in that same article: League is still in the number 3 spot.
Bro you dont gotta defend Riot all the time just because youre a mod. Everyone knows balance team sucks this season. League is in number 3 spot for top grossing pc game because its been out for 8 years and has been very popular for a about 3-4 of those years. That doesnt mean League is top 3 this year, that means overall.
: Would it be too strong if the finished Support Item...
Mate if that happens im going to be building support item and get me free 3 control wards no matter what role im playing
: Remember when there was only 2 armor pen items in the game?
I mean, squishys still get kills in less than 3 seconds even from non lethality champs. So that argument is pretty invalid.
: {{champion:104}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:62}} {{champion:107}}
Sivir is definitely not one of the strongest champions in the game lmfao
Rioter Comments
PyroLux (NA)
: if u peaked d1 last season i can see u getting stuck mid-low diamond if ur main sucks but srsly if u cant even get to d5 idk, permaboom mental and tilt i guess
Well one of the main reasons im not doing too good is because I was used to taking Fervor, and the all lethality runes. So id start the game off with 62 AD and 24 lethality. And then Riot decided to take fervor away, and take lethality runes/masteries away (except for the trash Sudden Impact rune). So this whole season I have been trying to get used to Electrocute + AD runes. So now im starting with 86 AD level 1 and am a burst jayce instead of being a Mid game power spike with my old build. Also it doesnt help that everyone kills eachother in less than 3 seconds. Hell I just had a full tank rammus kill my master yi in 2 seconds and my yi was pretty fed.
saltran (EUW)
: I actually played 112 rankeds this season, that's fine for me, and I'll play more when the end is near for sure. You've played 169 rankeds this season, like, sure you've played more than me but it's not like you have double my games or some abysmal gab. You can also see that I do have decent winrates on my (I know) low elo, so sure I was competitive when I was playing rankeds and I played for win. And yeah, for sure that I have fun when I play recruitment, or 3c3, or ARAM. Eitherwise I would be spending my time on other hobby, is that something wrong in any case? Have a nice day and forgive the messy english of a spanish lawyer student here. (You should play more MF, I see that you have 6 rankeds with her, play her more cmon)
>You've played 169 rankeds this season, like, sure you've played more than me but it's not like you have double my games or some abysmal gab. You even said yourself: >I see JAYCCCCCCCCCE and I insta downvote, then I check his bullshit thread and confirm that the downvote was fair. Youve seen my other accounts. I have over 1k games this season in ranked alone just from my 8 other accounts lol.
: I think what he's trying to say is learn that your threads have no impact on the outcome of the game whatsoever. Your repetitive 2 month threads (which, I haven't even seen 1 of yet) are nothing of uniqueness, and are just another "damage is too high, teammates suck, riot pls". If you would like to see a higher impact on the community along with providing insightful discussion other than the constant circle jerk (which I don't deny, is correct aka. damage too high), try providing the reader with more knowledge and facts than "Here's my rank, teammates are not good, damage too high".
Ah ok that makes sense. I have provided the proof of why the damage is too high already. Its because of Patch 7.22. They buffed everyone starting ad, we lost 12 starting mr, 5 armor, and get an additional 15+ starting AD from runes.
: Love it. > "Toplane has no impact when botlane feeds" > *goes bot* "Botlane has no impact when mid and top feed!" So let's say in your perfect world - you're jayce - you win lane and the rest of your team feeds. Despite that - YOU (the lane bully) get to carry 2 dead weights in a 3v5 and win reliably. Why should you invalidate the enemy team's victory in their own lanes just because you won yours? How is that fair that 2 fed lanes will lose to 1 guy who won his lane? A lane bully ontop of that who's supposed to win lane. These posts always confuse me, because if your entire well fed team would lose to 1 guy 1v5'ing your entire team you'd call bullshit - but that is what YOU'RE asking for, only when you're the one who gets to 1v5. Team games are a double edged sword, you relay on your team and they on you - literally every team game is like that to an extent.
The point is, is that damage is too high. People dont play safe now, so they die 10+ times in 20 minutes. Sure if I get the enemy Irelia that wants to die to me 10 times then ill carry. Everything is too bursty, everyone is a carry, and everyone basically looks like a smurf with 80+% overall wr with how many kills theyre getting even tho theyre not smurfs. Last season not even smurfs with 80%+ overall winrates could be getting 20+ kills in 25 minutes.
: > [{quoted}](name=JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=alAwcAYc,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-24T06:47:13.595+0000) > > Gold 4 is there if you want it. Looks like you put 600 games in on one champ, you still think its not because this game is RNG based? Only because some people are lower elo than you doesn't mean you cannot learn something from them. Yeah, i don't really agree with his opinion too but, saying he's in hardstuck lower rank than you isn't the right argument that he's wrong.
Wasnt the point I was trying to bring across but ok.
: you could look at his match history instead of making up shit to try and make yourself look better, he wins games where he does well and loses games where he does bad not because his adc did good or bad. your arguments have really become worse over time
Did you even look at his match history? You're either making stuff up to make me sound wrong or you're not a good observer. https://imgur.com/7UfWIVh https://imgur.com/liJKl5c https://imgur.com/7eEv2qJ His jungle 1/9, support 6/12 feeding brand to do insane damage. His fault right? Jungler Jax 5/10, ADC 1/7, Support 1/5. Ezreal doing most damage and kayn 11/1. His fault tho. Darius is 0/8/1, Elise 2/5, ADC 2/6, Support 2/4. But he is 3/3 with most damage on his team. His fault 100%, he shouldve carried harder. Did you seriously even bother to look tho?
: Out of interest why not jayce mid?
Because i invested 4k games into jayce in top lane only. While only playing about 50 in mid and 400 as an ADC jayce. So I know almost all my matchups in the top lane and can win lane almost all the time unless i get ganked unexpectedly. Im not a fan of mid for this reason, lets say im facing an Orianna. From experience shes one of the easiest laners for Jayce to play against, but if she lands one ball on me, I lose about 15-25% of my health. Which in return, her mana doesnt used as much, and can proc her w to deal more damage. Its basically just too much damage in the mid lane, sure Jayce does damage but I run out of mana 10x quicker than they do, beens 1 q+e is about 1/3 of my mana. I just dont have the experience in mid lane and dont like the amount of damage dealt to me from one ability.
: > [{quoted}](name=JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=alAwcAYc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-09-24T09:09:57.497+0000) > > You cant carry with that build, already tried every playstyle, build, and runepage on jayce. Only one I found is lethality aggro top where i win lane and use my advantage to roam. But if i dont win top hard enough then its pretty much gg if my team feeds. honestly i was struggling with jaycey boy after my hiatus (I'm trash but whatever) due to issues with bone plating mostly, swapped to conqueror, now going phage>caulfields>triforce so i'll have CDR cap at 10-13 minutes whenever i hit 10, then i'll just go into a death's dance but any lethality item would do the trick too, it's great for split pushing and 1v1s, gives you decent move speed bonus to deal with bastards and it opens a lot for kiting. I've been going mallet and defensive boots because honestly i stopped caring about climbing and i just sort of want to 1v1 people these days (Man i wish that was a game mode every time i play)
Yeah but with that build youre pretty useless in team fights. Jayce's main goal in team fights is to shock blast enemy squishys, and with the bruiser/tank jayce build you do only like 15-25% at most of the squishys health. Heres a perfect example of what i mean tho. https://imgur.com/zh9KIak 10 minutes in, lost 2 towers, team dies 9 times, we are down 5,400 gold at 15 minutes. https://imgur.com/DsIOkad But luckily they never came to my lane with their lead. Thus I was able to shut down the Darius multiple times and eventually carry my team. If they did however go to my lane, then i most likely wouldve lost game. This also goes back to my main point, is games are decided by that one player that doesnt play safe. I was able to bring us back from a 5k gold loss at 15 minutes, although my build wasnt exactly full lethality. I mostly built this game to counter my laner because I normally struggle against Darius.
: ever try non lethality jayce? lethality jayce falls off too hard and doesn't really stack up to more{{champion:86}} reliable {{champion:104}} sources {{champion:39}} of {{champion:236}} damage {{champion:114}} there are still hyper carry builds and mid-late game builds try conqueror-triforce bruiser build it's actually quite enjoyable and stacks up
You cant carry with that build, already tried every playstyle, build, and runepage on jayce. Only one I found is lethality aggro top where i win lane and use my advantage to roam. But if i dont win top hard enough then its pretty much gg if my team feeds.
: Why are you attacking him? You claim to have the skill of a diamond player but are held back by teammates. Maybe he realizes that his skill level is at Gold 5. He never mentioned anything about saying he deserves to be a higher rank.
Im not attacking him, im trying to make him realize what im saying. Most one tricks get to plat pretty easily because theyre perfecting one single champion. The guy has 600 games on cass this season and shouldnt be in gold 5 unless he absolutely doesnt care about ranking up. But the reason hes stuck in gold 5 is because Cass isnt meta right now and he cant carry fed bot lanes when they can just one shot cass easily.
Zethro (NA)
: So is the proposition that you get so unlucky that more than half the games your bot lane feeds? it should be relatively even. If it isnt even, then keep playing. Eventually averages always even out. If you don't want to put in the time thats ok too, do what makes you happy. But just know diamond elo is there if you want it.
Gold 4 is there if you want it. Looks like you put 600 games in on one champ, you still think its not because this game is RNG based?
Zethro (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MJGqgjKq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-24T05:35:37.132+0000) > > Itd be like bronze 2 bronze 1 beens thats equivalent to silver 3 I disagree that silver 3 ins eason 8 equals bronze 1 or 2. I think although there will be minor exceptions, bronze will stay bronze and those who dont deserve bronze will go down to iron
Waht? Its literally the same number of tiers, just name changed. Bronze 5 = Iron 4.
rawiazam1 (EUNE)
: how i got from bronze iv to plat Iv in a single season.
Not trying to be a dick, but mostly everyone right now can make it to plat elo. I just had a friend on my other account 2 weeks ago telling me how he was bronze 1 two weeks before i met him and is now plat 3. Most games nowadays are RNG based, doesnt really matter how good you are as a player. In other words. if you keep playing, then youre going to rank up or down depending on RNG. Also if you play something busted/meta like Jungle role with Graves/Eve/Kayn, ADC Kai/Jhin, Top Irelia, Mid Akali, then im positive youll rank up easily. My friend was stuck in plat 3 all season last year as a vayne adc one trick. This season he picks up graves jungle, first 2 months of the season he gets to diamond 3. He never played jungle before either. Congrats on plat tho.
Seen (NA)
: Where do new players start in season 9?
Itd be like bronze 2 bronze 1 beens thats equivalent to silver 3
Rioter Comments
: It's not hard to get fed on Zed, what's hard about him is actually closing out a game with your lead is what's hard about him (at least againt competent players). I see Zeds go 7/0 and still be pretty much useless. Problem is everyone thinks kills/1v1 power is what's most important in this game. Zed provides almost nothing to a team and that's why you'll almost never see him in high elo or competitive. He provides little to nothing in a teamfight, and is easy as shit to match in a side lane. I'd reccomend to dodge if someone is playing Zed on your team (and isn't a Zed main). Pretty much a dogshit champ tbh.
They cant end the game because they build so squishy to where anyone can 1v1 them almost. Now imagine a 1v2+ against a zed, ezpz
: What are your favourite skin splasharts?
https://imgur.com/IITb5FH https://na.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/styles/scale_xlarge/public/upload/frenchmaid_nidalee_splash_1920x1080.jpg?itok=9o4X6e3y http://lol-wallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Silverfang-Akali-Splash-Art-Update-League-of-Legends-Artwork-Wallpaper-lol.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/964/862/b60.jpg https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1zPtVIpXXXXXPXXXXq6xXFXXXk/Frostblade-Irelia-mouse-pad-lol-pad-mouse-League-laptop-mousepad-HD-print-gaming-padmouse-gamer-of.jpg_640x640.jpg https://na.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/styles/scale_xlarge/public/upload/forsaken_jayce_splash_banner.jpg?itok=yh20g4bq
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HuhEIWNX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-06T18:07:24.129+0000) > > Can you tell me the limits of Viktor's gravity fields? Like how he can use it and to what extent. I'm just curious. Also his thunderstorms are more like electrical storms but it still does the same thing. Couldn't Jayce 1 shot Cait too tho with his hextech blast part of his hammer?. Also I don't think Jinx is smarter than Viktor in any way Viktor is a genius regarding techonlogy. I cant tell you that, but we know that it can immobilize people, even if its a short period of time, it would be enough time to shoot his laser and kill the person. Sure, Jayce could one shot them as well, but the bullet of Cait must be faster and it definetly has more range than any attack of Jayce. I dont think that Jinx is not smarter than Viktor (or Jayce), but we know that she is smarter than Vi AND Cait... so, she could help them. Basically, it is the same argument about Range and Durability that i made with VelKoz... maybe Cait has more range, but out of all the characters mentioned in this thread, Viktor is the one that doesnt have human flesh, so, his body is more resistant.
>but the bullet of Cait must be faster and it definetly has more range than any attack of Jayce. Actually Jayce's Accelerated shock blast is faster and goes further than cait, unless of course we're talking about Cait's R. Then Jayce's would only be faster.
: Viktor and Jayce vs Caitlyn andVi (in-lore)
Jayce and Viktor have Shuriman god weapons, pretty sure that says enough
: If we assume that Viktor and Jayce do not try to kill each other, i think that Viktor wins. Caitlyn is an sniper and im pretty sure that she would insta kill Jayce with one shoot in the head... But Viktor in other hand, wears a helmet, so, a headshoot would not be deadly for his case. Viktor alone is waay to op for Cait and Vi... Maybe Vi could deal some damage to him, but Viktor is able to control the gravity of an area, create protecive shields, shoot lasers and summon thunder storms at will. So, he would stop them in the area with his Gravity Field and then one shot them with the **Death** Ray. That laser can melt walls... so, the armor of Vi would be no problem... also, he can shoot the ray to her head. ... Jinx in other hand... maybe she could defeat them all with her giant Rocket... maybe, then again, Viktor could stop/destoy/dodge the rocket... or even survive the explosion since most of his body is made of metal. And it seems that she is actually smart... so there is that.
Youre acting like Jayce just goes out there all willy nilly goin with the flow. Jayce is strategist, he thinks before he does something. Im sure if he was facing Cait he wouldnt put himself in a vulnerable spot to get shot by her. Also Full Metal Jayce has armor.
Nalisai (NA)
: Essence Reaver + level 1 ult champs
Essence reaver doesnt work on any of those champs lmao. Even if it did, it would be as busted because it still has a 30 second cooldown on it. Also it should be used on those champs, literally an item made for Jayce. I dont even see anyone taking it
Airavice (NA)
: Laws of Piltover
As a Jayce main, I dont think Jayce would last 2 seconds against a thousand year old wizard like Ryze. Jayce feels like one of those characters in Lore that would die very easily, like one shot from cait would kill him lol
Rioter Comments
: Still no apology issued regarding "Man Babies" and more insults.
DZK be like: "And youre not getting one, manbaby"
: ***
Riot wont do anything, and almost all players will come back preseason 9. No point in getting involved with it, its like asking the balance team to fix the game, they wont acknowledge it, just like how Riot wont acknowledge we dont want an SJW catering game.
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Guzergus (EUW)
: Provide a proof of your d1 account last season. Also, provide an explanation how a challenger player can maintain 80% wr in diamond, yet you can't maintain even 60% in god. Also, read up about how matchmaking and probability work. You sound as if you haven't finished the university.
Cant really provide proof considering its been banned for about 10-11 months now, but i can provide an image of when i hit D5 on the account. https://imgur.com/kXk1Pza >Also, provide an explanation how a challenger player can maintain 80% wr in diamond, yet you can't maintain even 60% in god. Me play brain dead high mobility assassin champ, me get kill in .43 second, me good, me challenger. *Meanwhile a Jayce otp* I have 4k more gold than the kha, I can 1v1 him. *Gets killed in 1.2 seconds*
Guzergus (EUW)
: Then it means you're not better than plat3. You ever heard of things like statistics and long-run? That's why ranked is not 100% luck as u claimed.
I was diamond 1 last season and still lose games in silver/gold/plat this season. You're right, it 100% is my fault, I clearly dont know how to play the game {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Guzergus (EUW)
: You're beyond any help. There are a lot of high level otps who play whatever they want, e.g. trynda or singed and they still have an extremely good win rate. Stop blaming the luck for your own mistakes, you're just not better than gold, that's all.
Im not better than gold yet im playing in plat 3+ elo. K then
: nunu did not solo the baron there was a willump {{sticker:zombie-nunu-hearts}}
{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: *Season 7 people actually had impact on the game* When? Like the first 7 patches? Otherwise it was always whos botlane won after that.
Exactly, youd just have to camp bot lane and play off bot lane. This season you can win bot lane, but theres a fed jungler. You can camp enemy jungler, now theres a fed bot lane. Last season it was just bot lane, I never saw top/mid/junglers carrying games hard unless they were smurfs.
Áery (NA)
: You’re just making the same thread now everyday in hopes it’ll reach the front page lel
Well if im able to make the same thread everyday with a different picture for evidence then i believe thats enough information to support my claim
Guzergus (EUW)
: >Games are 100% luck based. No skill required anymore, no strategy, just 100% based on who has the team that knows how to play smart. I wonder how challenger level players have a 80% win rate up to diamond. Are they just lucky?
They play meta champs like {{champion:84}} {{champion:103}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:145}} which are extremely good right now. Its one of the reasons why im switching from Jayce top to Miss Fortune ADC because shes meta and can carry.
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