: I made it to S5
Congrats dude, glad you made it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000000000010001,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:16:49.719+0000) > > Not bad enough on their own to be anymore then a warning, but with how the system works, you build up to the point of getting in trouble. One game worth of flaming, raging, trolling, etc, doesn't get you in trouble, everyone tilts, everyone, including me, knowing that, you have to build up to get banned or restricted, or whatever which is what this is here. That's 2 games. If they HAD another game, it literally would be here. Which they do not. So no, your point is inaccurate. All it takes is 2 games. Probably takes a lot to get banned, but not a lot to get chat restricted.
> [{quoted}](name=Poptart Riven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000000100010000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:42:55.803+0000) > > That's 2 games. If they HAD another game, it literally would be here. Which they do not. > So no, your point is inaccurate. All it takes is 2 games. False, people have been permabanned and only shown one game, the amount of games it shows isn't relevant, it is when you reach a threshold that you get punished. > Probably takes a lot to get banned, but not a lot to get chat restricted. Relative to getting banned yeah it takes a lot, but it also takes a fair bit to even get chat restricted, you have to get a fairly large amount of reports to hit that threshold.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:09:18.800+0000) > > Honestly, yes, if the things you say aren't just you being pissed at your allies, just mute ignore and move on, what do you get out of saying anything to them? > > Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing > Best Ekko NA: so he can lose > Best Ekko NA: no > Best Ekko NA: nope > Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai > Best Ekko NA: lose the game > Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful > > How is this not flaming? > > Your jungler was 10/7/12, maybe they honestly believed that there was no point helping you and decided to snowball other lanes. > > Your score tells another story. > > You let your lane free farm and do as he pleased likely roaming while you typed and didn't really do anything to help the team. I also repeat, how is saying that the loss will be Rek Sai's fault, unsportsmanlike, how is blaming one person for a loss, unsportsmanlike? > > Not say anything, and not try to get your team to surrender. Riot doesn't want people just giving up nor want people just afking or insulting people. **1. What do you get out of saying anything to them?** Good point. Brings me back to the title, it's a crime to chat in this game. You get nothing. **2. How is this not flaming?** There wasn't anything inappropriate said there, even more so when you see his score. The game was his to win, and his to lose. He felt like helping me was not the correct choice, and I thought otherwise. There isn't anything flaming about that. **3. Your score tells another story.** Nearly every single death I had in the game, was from Zed using his ultimate on me. I died once or twice to Pantheon, and every other time was a death related to Zed's massive damage hitting me in the face. I did try to help my team, however I was under farmed and didn't have items to be able to accomplish anything useful. **4. You let your laner free farm.** What do you want me to do, keep dying to him and feed him instead? He had more than enough damage to tower dive me, as well as a Jungler who would visit top side, contrasting to my own who won't even look at top lane. If he wants to free farm, he's going to free farm. There isn't anything I'm capable of doing to stop him as an under-leveled champion that he counters. **5. Not say anything, not try to get your team to surrender.** Sure, as soon as they remove the option to surrender I'll take you right up on that one.
> [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:31:27.543+0000) > > **1. What do you get out of saying anything to them?** > > Good point. Brings me back to the title, it's a crime to chat in this game. You get nothing. That is not how it works at all. You are free to say whatever you want in chat as long as you don't point it as people, besides the obvious racial and homophobic slurs. > **2. How is this not flaming?** > > There wasn't anything inappropriate said there, even more so when you see his score. The game was his to win, and his to lose. He felt like helping me was not the correct choice, and I thought otherwise. There isn't anything flaming about that. But what if it was, who are you to say it wasn't. You are the person feeding against a Pantheon to him so he thought to win, snowballing other lanes was the better option. You seem to have a very different definition of flaming. You seem to think that flaming only means when you are cursing at people, what you deem flaming and what Riot and the system does are two different things. You were flaming in the sense you were being hostile to your team, even if cursing wasn't done. > **3. Your score tells another story.** > > Nearly every single death I had in the game, was from Zed using his ultimate on me. I died once or twice to Pantheon, and every other time was a death related to Zed's massive damage hitting me in the face. I did try to help my team, however I was under farmed and didn't have items to be able to accomplish anything useful. So you instead try and sabotage the rest of your team? > **4. You let your laner free farm.** > > What do you want me to do, keep dying to him and feed him instead? He had more than enough damage to tower dive me, as well as a Jungler who would visit top side, contrasting to my own who won't even look at top lane. If he wants to free farm, he's going to free farm. There isn't anything I'm capable of doing to stop him as an under-leveled champion that he counters. So then how is punishing the rest of your team a good idea then, at that point, what you should have done is given up the tower, then kept pushing when you can, not just forgo the lane, blame your jungler for not carrying you, then not doing anything besides passing the blame on others. Even then, beyond that, even if there was nothing you could do, why then at that point would you say things like it is my jungler's fault, do you know that ganking a losing lane isn't the best idea at all times? If they are so far behind it doesn't matter, ganking that lane is just a waste of time as opposed to helping other lanes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:35:04.764+0000) > > Best Ekko NA: im so raging man > Best Ekko NA: done with top > Best Ekko NA: not going back > Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help > Best Ekko NA: then so be it > > Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing > Best Ekko NA: so he can lose > Best Ekko NA: no > Best Ekko NA: nope > Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai > Best Ekko NA: lose the game > Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful > > Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter > Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away > Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong > Best Ekko NA: then win it > Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game > Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything > Best Ekko NA: which is the point > Best Ekko NA: you need me > Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me > Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? > Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me > Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me > Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself > > Best Ekko NA: just ff > Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad > Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game > Best Ekko NA: it's over > Best Ekko NA: trust me > > You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that? Let's put it this way, on a scale of 1-10, how bad are these two logs? I didn't sit there calling everyone retards and idiots like I see other people doing on a daily basis in this game. The fact is, even if I was slightly out of line with my aggression, there's only two games and they are very minuscule. If this is punishable, there should be far more people permanently banned in this game.
> [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:02:42.793+0000) > > Let's put it this way, on a scale of 1-10, how bad are these two logs? > I didn't sit there calling everyone retards and idiots like I see other people doing on a daily basis in this game. The fact is, even if I was slightly out of line with my aggression, there's only two games and they are very minuscule. > > If this is punishable, there should be far more people permanently banned in this game. Not bad enough on their own to be anymore then a warning, but with how the system works, you build up to the point of getting in trouble. One game worth of flaming, raging, trolling, etc, doesn't get you in trouble, everyone tilts, everyone, including me, knowing that, you have to build up to get banned or restricted, or whatever which is what this is here.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:35:04.764+0000) > > Best Ekko NA: im so raging man > Best Ekko NA: done with top > Best Ekko NA: not going back > Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help > Best Ekko NA: then so be it > > Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing > Best Ekko NA: so he can lose > Best Ekko NA: no > Best Ekko NA: nope > Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai > Best Ekko NA: lose the game > Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful > > Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter > Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away > Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong > Best Ekko NA: then win it > Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game > Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything > Best Ekko NA: which is the point > Best Ekko NA: you need me > Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me > Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? > Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me > Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me > Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself > > Best Ekko NA: just ff > Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad > Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game > Best Ekko NA: it's over > Best Ekko NA: trust me > > You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that? Passive aggressive remarks are just that. Are they better? Probably not. How else do you respond? Mute them? Say nothing? I wasn't flaming anyone in my games. In the first game, I was far far far behind after getting destroyed by Pantheon. Our Jungler did nothing to help, even when I was right in front of him several times he'd turn and go the other direction intentionally, leaving me to die. I went Bot after realizing how hopeless it was to stay in my lane, then got accused of being AFK. I tried to be productive, however Bot did not like that I was down there. My statements about losing are simply implying the reality behind the Junglers decision, there isn't even anything "toxic" or unsportsmanlike about them. Team later tried forking me, like it was my fault that we were losing. That second game, was a curb stomp. The enemy team sat around invading my Jungle over and over again. No one followed their lanes, no one warded anywhere. Our Malphite was doing some really weird things, dying quite a lot, and usually never grouped with the team. At level 1, I was taking the other team's red, Malphite ran his laner right into me taking the red buff. Trust me, I wanted out of that game. What else can you say to try to get your team to surrender?
> [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:53:38.674+0000) > > Passive aggressive remarks are just that. Are they better? Probably not. How else do you respond? Mute them? Say nothing? Honestly, yes, if the things you say aren't just you being pissed at your allies, just mute ignore and move on, what do you get out of saying anything to them? >I wasn't flaming anyone in my games. Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful How is this not flaming? >In the first game, I was far far far behind after getting destroyed by Pantheon. Our Jungler did nothing to help, even when I was right in front of him several times he'd turn and go the other direction intentionally, leaving me to die. Your jungler was 10/7/12, maybe they honestly believed that there was no point helping you and decided to snowball other lanes. >I went Bot after realizing how hopeless it was to stay in my lane, then got accused of being AFK. I tried to be productive, however Bot did not like that I was down there. Your score tells another story. >My statements about losing are simply implying the reality behind the Junglers decision, there isn't even anything "toxic" or unsportsmanlike about them. Team later tried forking me, like it was my fault that we were losing. You let your lane free farm and do as he pleased likely roaming while you typed and didn't really do anything to help the team. I also repeat, how is saying that the loss will be Rek Sai's fault, unsportsmanlike, how is blaming one person for a loss, unsportsmanlike? > That second game, was a curb stomp. The enemy team sat around invading my Jungle over and over again. No one followed their lanes, no one warded anywhere. Our Malphite was doing some really weird things, dying quite a lot, and usually never grouped with the team. At level 1, I was taking the other team's red, Malphite ran his laner right into me taking the red buff. Trust me, I wanted out of that game. What else can you say to try to get your team to surrender? Not say anything, and not try to get your team to surrender. Riot doesn't want people just giving up nor want people just afking or insulting people.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=abGKfJYB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:41:34.306+0000) > > You are surprised that the Vayne with two life steal items and stupidly fed out of her mind got to easily clean up. If the 21/4 ADC isn't popping people, I feel like that would be a problem honestly and a good sign ADCs would need buffs. im surprised she can live threw a olaf and talon whole combo while a fucking sion hits her with a ult.while in 3 autos she nukes you because she has health damage like kog.she literally took off just from censor nothing she did before that even mattered and to take it into perceptive talon was 6 and 1 while she was 1 and 0 and still couldn't get to her because shield power icnreasers +heal increases need to be removed.
> [{quoted}](name=ZeroAgainst,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=abGKfJYB,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:44:38.530+0000) > > im surprised she can live threw a olaf and talon whole combo while a fucking sion hits her with a ult. To be fair, only one of you had damage items. Sion was pure tank, only damage item you have is Black cleaver and Olaf doesn't really scale and Talon is countered by Janna and she was once again, fed out of her mind. >while in 3 autos she nukes you because she has health damage like kog. Ok, she has always done that. >she literally took off just from censor nothing she did before that even mattered and to take it into perceptive talon was 6 and 1 while she was 1 and 0 and still couldn't get to her because shield power icnreasers +heal increases need to be removed. So blame Janna, not Vayne, Janna is dumb and always has been dumb, Ardent censor just makes her dumber.
: vayne tanked all my damage
You are surprised that the Vayne with two life steal items and stupidly fed out of her mind got to easily clean up. If the 21/4 ADC isn't popping people, I feel like that would be a problem honestly and a good sign ADCs would need buffs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:24:46.684+0000) > > You don't actually want discussion, you don't see what is wrong, you are just here to rant and have people who were also fairly banned rally on your side, so what was the point of this post? What is there to discuss? I didn't get banned. There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player. I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log. There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me.
> [{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:27:00.488+0000) > > What is there to discuss? > I didn't get banned. > There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player. > > I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log. > > There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me. Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that?
: Talking In League of Legends is a Crime
You don't actually want discussion, you don't see what is wrong, you are just here to rant and have people who were also fairly banned rally on your side, so what was the point of this post?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NEgKrfEM,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T04:39:17.994+0000) > > If you think it is easier to carry with a support then a damage dealer especially at low elo, you are insane. No such thing as free elo in that sense. You can pick a tier one champion but if you don't know how to play them, you aren't going to go up. Playing what you are good at, no matter how low tier it is (also tier list are bullshit at low elo anyway), you will have more success. What if I want to be a support and damage dealer, then carry the super late game? Any fellow {{champion:432}} mains here?
> [{quoted}](name=Lord of Math,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NEgKrfEM,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:15:07.621+0000) > > What if I want to be a support and damage dealer, then carry the super late game? Any fellow {{champion:432}} mains here? I wouldn't say bard persay, Brand maybe.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NEgKrfEM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-23T04:07:07.642+0000) > > You can get to Diamond with any champion, just depends on how good you are. Yes but you can't deny it's easier to climb with some champs than others. I don't care how good someone is with Ryze. The best Ryze player will probably have worse mmr than the best Janna player.
> [{quoted}](name=Cloud273,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NEgKrfEM,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-23T04:22:48.907+0000) > > Yes but you can't deny it's easier to climb with some champs than others. I don't care how good someone is with Ryze. The best Ryze player will probably have worse mmr than the best Janna player. If you think it is easier to carry with a support then a damage dealer especially at low elo, you are insane. No such thing as free elo in that sense. You can pick a tier one champion but if you don't know how to play them, you aren't going to go up. Playing what you are good at, no matter how low tier it is (also tier list are bullshit at low elo anyway), you will have more success.
Cloud273 (NA)
: Is getting gold less about skill and more about abusing broken champs?
You can get to Diamond with any champion, just depends on how good you are.
: Perma-banned
Big shout out to Riot for removing another toxic player from our community.
: I'm done.
Can I have your account?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZOweqlhe,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T22:20:11.325+0000) > > You are Silver 5, stfu. Ok Jamaree. I know you're a Diamond one trick pony support main but you still didn't address any of the issues I mentioned. You just said I'm bad. Sure I'm not good enough to carry 3 feeding teammates from mid which is probably what I need to be able to do to rank up. If you actually read my post you would know that the main issue isn't that I can't rank up. (I could probably easily rank up to mid Gold or higher by only playing Soraka, but that's boring AF so I don't do it). The issue is having all of these trolls or players who refuse to play differently if they are feeding. If you're bad that's fine. If you're a player just likes to suck and not actually try to improve then don't waste my time and surrender. If you deliberately keep doing the same stupid sh1t over and over and you won't let me leave, then I will flame you and try to make you feel miserable like you are making me feel. The issue I have is that Riot will punish the person who's angry, not the troll/ idiot ruining the gaming experience for everyone. But it's ok. Ignore everything I say and scream "You're bad!" like a gaping moron. You sound just like all those typical anti-flame message board warriors. XD{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=xX530CaliXx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZOweqlhe,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T23:39:02.657+0000) > > Ok Jamaree. I know you're a Diamond one trick pony support main but you still didn't address any of the issues I mentioned. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Jamaree I mean, you can clearly see here I don't mainly support, but ok, I top and bot. >You just said I'm bad. Sure I'm not good enough to carry 3 feeding teammates from mid which is probably what I need to be able to do to rank up. If you actually read my post you would know that the main issue isn't that I can't rank up. (I could probably easily rank up to mid Gold or higher by only playing Soraka, but that's boring AF so I don't do it). Yeah ok sure. >The issue is having all of these trolls or players who refuse to play differently if they are feeding. If you're bad that's fine. If you're a player just likes to suck and not actually try to improve then don't waste my time and surrender. If you deliberately keep doing the same stupid sh1t over and over and you won't let me leave, then I will flame you and try to make you feel miserable like you are making me feel. The issue I have is that Riot will punish the person who's angry, not the troll/ idiot ruining the gaming experience for everyone. Here is the problem with that thought process. There is a clear difference between trolling, and tilting, ie having a bad game. We all have them, we all have games where we just fuck up, not a single person in this game's history, pros included, play every single game perfectly. They get in a bad mindset and end up trying to make up for their mistakes which in turn leads to more mistakes. OR, the opponent team is going out of their way trying to make sure they have a bad game by camping them, so they in turn do poorly as they get camped and tower dove and shit. So with this in mind, where do you get off? You have had games where you were that person and did you play better while getting flamed, did you play better with your team going out of their way to make you miserable? You have had games where YOU were that "troll" or "idiot" so you flaming them makes you a hypocrite. I know I'm bad at this game, I accept it, in turn I know that there will be games where losses are my fault, where I can't carry, where things are out of my control, difference between you and me is I understand this, and just play the game and realize that flaming does nothing for anyone, and if I did flame the person doing bad, I would be a hypocrite. > But it's ok. Ignore everything I say and scream "You're bad!" like a gaping moron. You sound just like all those typical anti-flame message board warriors. XD{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} And you sound like a narcissistic up his ass flamer who is gonna get permabanned soon and lose out on his account, so fair is fair right?
: What is you Favorite Pokemon
: > [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7fRqkELz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-22T22:34:34.622+0000) > > Someday people will learn anything EA is involved in is doomed from the start I still have a foolish hope that this one will be different. I will be disappointed, I'm sure, but I want to believe.
> [{quoted}](name=KempyreanPirate,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7fRqkELz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T22:35:52.831+0000) > > I still have a foolish hope that this one will be different. I will be disappointed, I'm sure, but I want to believe. Pay to win lootboxes, sorry mate.
: If you read this post, then why are you talking about whether or not i deserved my ban, when literally in the first paragraph i said, "but thats not what this is about" to that?
> [{quoted}](name=JamesTheMage15,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xmeezaAu,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T22:25:36.433+0000) > > If you read this post, then why are you talking about whether or not i deserved my ban, when literally in the first paragraph i said, "but thats not what this is about" to that? I'm just confused on why people won't just mute and move on how easy, depends on how often you get reported, but I can't tell without you posting your logs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZOweqlhe,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T22:05:52.217+0000) > > agreed hes full of narcissism as well. Haha. Funny coming from a bronze 5 player. You are probably one of the morons I'm talking about.
> [{quoted}](name=xX530CaliXx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZOweqlhe,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T22:17:24.542+0000) > > Haha. Funny coming from a bronze 5 player. You are probably one of the morons I'm talking about. You are Silver 5, stfu.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZOweqlhe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-22T21:49:17.200+0000) > > You aren't good at this game, calm down. Nice. don't even respond to any of my points. Classic LOL troll.
> [{quoted}](name=xX530CaliXx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZOweqlhe,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-10-22T21:58:45.844+0000) > > Nice. don't even respond to any of my points. Classic LOL troll. I did respond, you think you are constantly berated by trolls when in actuality you are just lumped with people who are equally as bad as you are. So you flame to compensate.
: Did you even read this post?
> [{quoted}](name=JamesTheMage15,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xmeezaAu,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-10-22T21:54:09.416+0000) > > Did you even read this post? Yes I did, and I going to assume that this ban and your next are deserved until you post your logs. You can type all you please, you can type and say whatever you want all game, as long as you don't point it at people. I think this system is subpar too, there is never going to be a perfect system to make sure people actually have an enjoyable experience while also stopping people from trolling. This game is far too large for that, HOWEVER, you don't get banned for just defending yourself, the system is far too lax for that. It doesn't take one game of defending yourself, or even several games to even register a little pop up warning. So unless you get trolls every single game, which once again, you don't, you won't have to defend yourself. And no, someone going 0/5 at the start isn't someone trolling, because we have ALL done that, you included. So I have to assume that what you actually do is flame at the drop of a hat, that even a single mistake pisses you off to the point of flaming. Why even waste your time and energy flaming anyway, just mute, report, move on, why waste your time on people that aren't worth it?
: 14 day banned and i am petrified to talk in game
Until you post your logs, I'm going to assume you deserved your ban to be honest.
: Sick of the op ban hammer, and the idiots that play this game. What games have you switched to?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1K64OFQb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-21T21:40:59.953+0000) > > Yeah, I should be allowed to go into a movie theatre or restaurant and yell obscenities at random people, damn decency or respect or any of that, how dare you deny my right to free speech. > > > This is basically what you are saying. What's with all these idiots coming to my thread and not reading the post? I said no such thing. I did not say anything about my stance on the subject. I simply stated facts. League of Legends is free to restrict your freedoms, and they do so. And again, you're just plain stupid if you think anonymous interactions that involve no sound whatsoever on the internet equate to anything in real life.
> [{quoted}](name=Declovone,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1K64OFQb,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T18:25:59.193+0000) > > What's with all these idiots coming to my thread and not reading the post? I said no such thing. I did not say anything about my stance on the subject. > > I simply stated facts. League of Legends is free to restrict your freedoms, and they do so. I read the post, what was the point of us besides thinking that they don't put in the work? > And again, you're just plain stupid if you think anonymous interactions that involve no sound whatsoever on the internet equate to anything in real life. How, it is as close as a comparison as you are gonna get.
: How is the new player experience and why is it acceptable to experience toxicity?
It isn't acceptable, the game is just FAR too big to stop it all.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:40:33.554+0000) > > So Source, yeah that was Valve, unless you mean Zero. When did that come out compared to Black Ops 3? Because Black Ops 3 had Loot Boxes as well. Black Ops 3 would be Activision/Treyarc.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-22T07:49:48.348+0000) > > When did that come out compared to Black Ops 3? > > Because Black Ops 3 had Loot Boxes as well. Black Ops 3 would be Activision/Treyarc. Brah, Counter Strike Source is 13 years old.
Odenmaru (NA)
: Help me choose GD!
I like the first personally.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:40:33.554+0000) > > So Source, yeah that was Valve, unless you mean Zero. Whatever one got people on that stupid knife opening rampage and value them over $1k+
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:42:31.626+0000) > > Whatever one got people on that stupid knife opening rampage and value them over $1k+ So Source, which is Valve.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:30:39.726+0000) > > I don't think loot boxes were in the original counter strike back in 2000 were they? The 2nd one
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:33:56.899+0000) > > The 2nd one So Source, yeah that was Valve, unless you mean Zero.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:26:30.434+0000) > > Ummm 2nd Chance, counter strike is Valve. Well I meant that in a specific game wise, but yeah I knew it was still Valve
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:28:36.031+0000) > > Well I meant that in a specific game wise, but yeah I knew it was still Valve I don't think loot boxes were in the original counter strike back in 2000 were they?
: Counter Strike did first tbh Then people who made gambling out of it snowballed it
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=n74nKfje,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-22T05:14:39.855+0000) > > Counter Strike did first tbh > > Then people who made gambling out of it snowballed it Ummm 2nd Chance, counter strike is Valve.
Tyvan (NA)
: Remember when games were made for fun and not milking your wallet
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Unpopular opinion: the latest generations of pokemon were the best.
I love gen 7 more for the team then the Pokémon honestly, I don't think many people even fight against the fact they are the best
: I like how Riot ruined a perfectly good idea by making emotes RP only
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=48OumqfO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-22T00:26:22.272+0000) > > Dynasty Warriors is one of those hard things to fuck up they fucked up the roster but there's enough good picks to make the game worth playing
> [{quoted}](name=Latitoast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=48OumqfO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-22T00:27:46.306+0000) > > they fucked up the roster but there's enough good picks to make the game worth playing Personal preference really.
: fire emblem warriors thread
Dynasty Warriors is one of those hard things to fuck up
Takerial (NA)
: 5 games into my provisionals
The problem with promos is that your mmr is rapidly in flux so it is guessing at that point
: So whens the last time you got a key fragment?
Malza (NA)
: Yeah all of those welfare diamond 5s opinions are really bad.
> [{quoted}](name=Malza,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=F3wfjowb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-21T23:41:30.458+0000) > > Yeah all of those welfare diamond 5s opinions are really bad. I know I'm bad and admit this, no need to rub it in ;-;
: Can someone shed light on this aspect of ranked?
Because the system is utterly based around MMR, rank means nothing. You can be diamond with bronze mmr and vice versa, hell, there was a guy with a bronze border and rank but had Diamond mmr so he played with diamonds. Whether or not it is fair is up to debate though, if you are playing with people like that, it means your mmr is either really high, which is good or theirs is fairly low, bit of a mix. Should you be allowed to play with people many degrees and levels below you even if they are the same rank, would you be happy with them holding you back even if you are more highly ranked, in turn would the properly placed high mmr players be happy being held back bad players? In your case by the way, your mmr is around gold 4, so a good two ranks higher then your current rank, so go there
: Like I said, I don't think c - - t was always held as such a harsh word. And Riot has stated officially that cursing is not against the ToS, as long as it's not directed at another player.
> [{quoted}](name=VentressRedeemed,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Pf4onqQs,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-21T23:23:17.708+0000) > > Like I said, I don't think c - - t was always held as such a harsh word. And Riot has stated officially that cursing is not against the ToS, as long as it's not directed at another player. Exactly, cussing is fine just don't point it at people and you are a ok.
: That's not entirely true. Well, it is for the curse words, as cursing in general is not a bannable offense, if as you say, it is not used at someone. Hate speech, on the other hand, is not allowed even when not directed at other people. Those slurs are not allowed under any context, and c - - t now counts in that category. And it depends on where you live in the world as to how you view the word c - - t. In Great Britain, it's just slang, but in the U.S., it's a very derogatory word for women. To my knowledge, it was not always classified as hate speech by the system, but it has recently become included in that, and is no longer acceptable to the Instant Feedback System. The IFS is a learning system, and it learns from the reports received what the players consider acceptable and unacceptable. I'm not sure whether the playerbase were the ones who taught the system that they found the word unacceptable, by enough people objecting to it and reporting it's usage, or if Riot went in somehow and made a setting for it. All I know is that you cannot use it anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=VentressRedeemed,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Pf4onqQs,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-21T23:09:28.227+0000) > > That's not entirely true. Well, it is for the curse words, as cursing in general is not a bannable offense, if as you say, it is not used at someone. Hate speech, on the other hand, is not allowed even when not directed at other people. Those slurs are not allowed under any context, and c - - t now counts in that category. I can personally attest that this is true, I have been playing this game since 2009 I have said fuck, %%%%, shit and all other general slurs, I have never once even gotten a warning, my only punishment was a leavebuster ban back when my comp was shit in college.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EJGlWU9A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-21T23:05:29.669+0000) > > Can I have your account or will you come back in another couple of years for another rant expecting human nature to just miraculously not be dicks? I don't care that they're dicks. I think it is ridiculous to punish other people for getting mad that people are dicks.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Ultimus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EJGlWU9A,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-21T23:06:06.847+0000) > > I don't care that they're dicks. I think it is ridiculous to punish other people for getting mad that people are dicks. I can't fully believe that you are innocent without logs and even then, why would you just not mute and ignore and not say anything?
: League of Legends in 2017
Can I have your account or will you come back in another couple of years for another rant expecting human nature to just miraculously not be dicks?
Cvsper (OCE)
: its just rediculous , so every game when someone says c- - t they get banned? when was c -- t more offensive than fuck? everyone just gets banned for anything, maybe next month get banned for saying '' hello lads''
> [{quoted}](name=Cvsper,realm=OCE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Pf4onqQs,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-21T22:54:24.597+0000) > > its just rediculous , so every game when someone says c- - t they get banned? when was c -- t more offensive than fuck? everyone just gets banned for anything, maybe next month get banned for saying '' hello lads'' You don't get banned for saying %%%%, fuck, or anything in particular, you get banned for saying that stuff at people.
Sly3G (NA)
: ok yea i know i said kys but thats not what this conversation is about
> [{quoted}](name=Sly3G,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=roi3XvUJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-21T22:09:26.841+0000) > > ok yea i know i said kys but thats not what this conversation is about Yeah, honor don't mean shit, they don't take nicely to saying kys and your honor wouldn't protect you from punishment, why would it?
: The Banning System Is Worthless
One report isn't enough to get a 14 day ban unless he said things like kys and racial shit
: GG boiz, my time here is done
Sly3G (NA)
: i am not looking for sympathy just an answer why not a chat ban and what dose the honer system really do
> [{quoted}](name=Sly3G,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=roi3XvUJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-21T22:02:49.162+0000) > > i am not looking for sympathy just an answer why not a chat ban and what dose the honer system really do Without your logs, not really sure, it was likely you say kys, big no no
Silven (EUW)
: VGUs should reset the mastery level
Why? For what purpose, what does having mastery or not even do? Why take something away for no reason, players are already losing the character they had before, why also take away their mastery? What would it accomplish and what is the problem with them having it?
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