: So why is Rito allowed to rip off ideas from other games and get away with it?
Video games have literally been doing that since their inception? Fucking LoL itself is a ripoff of a mod of another game, like what XD
RaQqa (EUNE)
: Sejuani and Nunu dmg is too high.
Their damages aren't high at all, what?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AVLWTAzd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-19T01:21:05.663+0000) > > Riot, don’t bring this to mobile so this man can keep his job My fiancee makes 3x more than I do, I'll be fine I promise :/#
> [{quoted}](name=Wínters Dawn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AVLWTAzd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T06:48:17.423+0000) > > My fiancee makes 3x more than I do, I'll be fine I promise :/# No.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4rctrf0O,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-19T00:49:57.822+0000) > > Because even if you had some perfect magical algorithm, there would still be trolls, inters, and feeders, you can only mitigate it to a certain degree. one occasional troll is fine, but r%%%%%s every game isn't > Because it is a team game, you win or lose as a team, if you don’t want the burden of other players, play a solo game. except ranking is individual, so that logic doesn't work > Seeing as different teams work on that kind of thing, duh? duh, duh? > > You know in this magical perfect algorithm world you want, you would likely lose more right, a lot of players aren’t anywhere near as good as they think they are. you are a better example lol
> [{quoted}](name=TobiasyThA,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4rctrf0O,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T06:00:55.198+0000) > > one occasional troll is fine, but r%%%%%s every game isn't In your math history, you have games where you are 0/4 AD jungle Soraka and 0/6 with Pantheon, with a pleathora of other games where your scores are just as bad, when you are the one doing poorly, what is your excuse then? > except ranking is individual, so that logic doesn't work It's individual yes, but you win or lose as a team, you can be MVP of a game, you still win or lose as a team, the same goes for the flip side. Stephen Curry might score 50 in a game, but if the score is 100 to 101, guess what, he doesn't win. > you are a better example lol I know that I'm not good and admit it and accept you, you don't.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FATYF3mP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-19T05:20:52.197+0000) > > Her counterplay is that she isn't a champion alone. She can literally not play the game unless she is hooked onto someone else. There isn't a support more useless solo then her. They took that away from Bard :/
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FATYF3mP,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-19T05:23:31.360+0000) > > They took that away from Bard :/ Idk man, I have seen Bard do some stupid shit, have yet to see a Yuumi solo kill someone yet though.
: Yuumi is Lazy and Toxic Champion Design (Riot Champion Logic)
Her counterplay is that she isn't a champion alone. She can literally not play the game unless she is hooked onto someone else. There isn't a support more useless solo then her.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fvlnmebu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-19T01:31:44.917+0000) > > Wow, a master player can beat plat Smurfs, clearly a showcase that players enjoy playing with him at the highest level in the game a master played who carried himself to master by playing teemo support.
> [{quoted}](name=CallMeAxel123,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fvlnmebu,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-19T01:56:13.199+0000) > > a master played who carried himself to master by playing teemo support. Except no he didn't, he has a negative win rate with that strat and Teemo in general, he got up there with Amumu, Leona, and Rammus. https://u.gg/lol/profile/na1/nubrac/overview
: What female ranged champions are frail looking but is a fighter and can fight up close?
: I played a game with Nubrac. He is awesome.
Wow, a master player can beat plat Smurfs, clearly a showcase that players enjoy playing with him at the highest level in the game
: Just played teamfight tactics.
Riot, don’t bring this to mobile so this man can keep his job
Lexlyk (NA)
: I haven't played a game of league since 2012 when they added extra stuff to Twisted Treeline games
There has been waaaaaaaaay too much added to explain it here and most responses here are going to be from very bitter people who don’t like the changes. Play yourself if you don’t want the bias.
: who thinks there should be new riot employees?
Except his Teemo strat didn’t have a decent win rate? It was below the average and many player who played with him testified how horrible of an experience it was?
: Boy if only there were some system in place whereby the community could make judgements on situations like this. Some sort of... court of justice... or some kind of seat or bench for a judge or judges...
> [{quoted}](name=Queen Weeß,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lnbFnidZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-19T00:40:58.024+0000) > > Boy if only there were some system in place whereby the community could make judgements on situations like this. Some sort of... court of justice... or some kind of seat or bench for a judge or judges... I’m sure said system would have no problems like players not using it, players abusing it and spamming pardon or punish just to get it done. Look man, I miss the Tribunal as much as the next guy, but as much as this community wants to botch about the trolls, afkers, feeders, inters, etc, when given the tools to fix the problem they clearly didn’t want to put in the work.
: why does riot not try to fix their game?
> [{quoted}](name=TobiasyThA,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4rctrf0O,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-19T00:31:34.241+0000) > > Inters first game, inters second game, afk third game, trolls fourth game... There's no poing "playing" such games, they're lost before they started. So why does riot not try to fix their algorithms to choose teams? Because even if you had some perfect magical algorithm, there would still be trolls, inters, and feeders, you can only mitigate it to a certain degree. > Or find a way to give LP to those who deserve it and not just the team who wins? Because it is a team game, you win or lose as a team, if you don’t want the burden of other players, play a solo game. > Realeasing new champs and skins isn't gonna fix anything. Seeing as different teams work on that kind of thing, duh? > Or if it's a luck-based game, then admit it and give a price money to the winner, like the lottery.... You know in this magical perfect algorithm world you want, you would likely lose more right, a lot of players aren’t anywhere near as good as they think they are.
: Over the last several years, Lol has not declined - it’s gotten better
Sorry man, you know the rules, you aren’t allowed to say anything good about League on the forums, not part of the circlejerk, that’s a paddlin.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3LhAU0q,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T21:16:56.521+0000) > > It is even more so from there because they literally lack the ability to use the rest of their kits effectively without landing their snares first. Well the thing is making the argument "dodge" is counterplay is like saying "counterplay to any ranged ability is dodge. So counterplay to most champions "dodge". I get what you meant by just dodge. But when people complain about zed or yasuo no one says "just dodge the nado or the zed Q's".
> [{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3LhAU0q,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T21:18:41.879+0000) > > Well the thing is making the argument "dodge" is counterplay is like saying "counterplay to any ranged ability is dodge. So counterplay to most champions "dodge". I get what you meant by just dodge. But when people complain about zed or yasuo no one says "just dodge the nado or the zed Q's". Well the counterplay to Yasuo is play a bruiser like Darius or Renekton making him a three skill champion and can poke just as hard as he can. The counterplay to them however is literally dodge their skillshot, Orianna can still do something of you dodge her ball, Syndra can still do something of you dodge her explosion and throw, Annie can still do something if you dodge her ulti, Yasuo can still do something if you dodge his nado, Lux and Morg can’t. A morg isn’t gonna kill you by just pressing R or even cc you, in the current climate of League with damage being as high as it is and with how much mobility there is, unless she is ahead she is either dead or you can literally walk away from her ultimate. Lux is a squishy no mobility mage whose only defense is a delayed shield and if you dodge her bind, just about every decent champion in the game can easily stick to and kill her before her next rotation. Their kits literally don’t function without landing a skillshot so their counterplay of dodge the skillshot is very apt.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3LhAU0q,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T16:40:29.319+0000) > > Literally dodging their skillshots? Well this can be a counter play to anything id more say qss and cleanse.
> [{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3LhAU0q,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-18T19:53:51.755+0000) > > Well this can be a counter play to anything id more say qss and cleanse. It is even more so from there because they literally lack the ability to use the rest of their kits effectively without landing their snares first.
Psycrow (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-18T09:11:00.870+0000) > > The movements have to be a bit jank, it is your job to play around them in metroidvanias. The movements is worse thin any of the castlevania games and thats saying something its worse thin the gba and what not.Iv played every castlevania game other thin rondo of blood. and castlevania sotn is my all time fav game so i have a good idea about 2d side scroll games .But even so the ch move feels so out of place more like it was meant for a arcade game .
> [{quoted}](name=Psycrow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T17:04:34.331+0000) > > The movements is worse thin any of the castlevania games and thats saying something its worse thin the gba and what not.Iv played every castlevania game other thin rondo of blood. and castlevania sotn is my all time fav game so i have a good idea about 2d side scroll games .But even so the ch move feels so out of place more like it was meant for a arcade game . I'm enjoying it.
Nhika (NA)
: Explain the counter-play to Lux and Morg on the same team?
: When a low level Xin Zhao ganks a fed sion
Fucking love awkward zombie.
Psycrow (NA)
: after looking it up on you tube it looks kind of bad .mobs and background looks nice but the way the main ch moves looks horrid imo.or its just the ch model just feels off to me.
> [{quoted}](name=Psycrow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-18T08:30:14.696+0000) > > after looking it up on you tube it looks kind of bad .mobs and background looks nice but the way the main ch moves looks horrid imo.or its just the ch model just feels off to me. The movements have to be a bit jank, it is your job to play around them in metroidvanias.
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-18T06:38:46.082+0000) > > A metroidvania game in style of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, got kickstarted back in like 2015, and it releasing today. how much is it
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T08:56:50.582+0000) > > how much is it 36 right now, 40 in about 9 hours.
Jamaree (NA)
: Just kind of sitting here...watching my clock, waiting for Bloodstained.
CLG ear (NA)
: what is it
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-18T06:12:07.859+0000) > > what is it A metroidvania game in style of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, got kickstarted back in like 2015, and it releasing today.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T05:02:11.942+0000) > > Steam release at 9 AM EST Gah, i won't have time to play it for a while.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T05:09:30.441+0000) > > Gah, i won't have time to play it for a while. I might, but gonna be cutting it close for work though.
Rockman (NA)
: Is it supposed to be like early Castlevania or Handheld ones with RPG element?
> [{quoted}](name=Rockman,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T05:04:20.674+0000) > > Is it supposed to be like early Castlevania or Handheld ones with RPG element? Both actually, the kickstarter went SO well they had an early Castlevania like game called Bloodstain: Curse of the Moon, with this one being like the latter RPG element ones, this one called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Wait, it's coming out now? God dammit.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9qFu7c55,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T04:58:33.255+0000) > > Wait, it's coming out now? God dammit. Steam release at 9 AM EST
Rioter Comments
: Because they are supposed to be easy to play champions. If they have higher winrates/playrates it isn't nearly as indicative of an unhealthy champion as when someone like Riven (who is supposedly high skill floor/cap), has a high winrate and maintains her high playrate.
> [{quoted}](name=I memba balance ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HFZQ3ERX,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-18T01:25:02.380+0000) > > Because they are supposed to be easy to play champions. If they have higher winrates/playrates it isn't nearly as indicative of an unhealthy champion as when someone like Riven (who is supposedly high skill floor/cap), has a high winrate and maintains her high playrate. That is only at high elos though, at lower elos her win rate is trash, isn’t that a showcase that she is mechanically difficult?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=000000000000000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T01:05:47.743+0000) > > Fair I guess, not really sure that this makes it ok, but fair. > > That’s fine that’s on him, if he gets hit with a ban, that’s his own fault. At least you're logical about it... People are far too biased. I suppose my reasoning in saying they should be held to higher standards is that it can and will be seen, especially in cases like this one, as promoting one side's toxicity over the other's. It's ironic, most of the boards are ***destroying*** Nightblue for his toxicity, when half of PB is "We CaN gEt BaNnEd FoR BaNtEr, BuT tRolLs ArE fInE!" It feels like the twilight zone - While I can't say it's sudden for people to think ill of Nightblue, I can assuredly say it's sudden for so many people to chant "FreeNubrac" when they're usually so quick to scream about griefers.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=0000000000000000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T01:12:51.657+0000) > > People are far too biased. I suppose my reasoning in saying they should be held to higher standards is that it can and will be seen, especially in cases like this one, as promoting one side's toxicity over the other's. It's ironic, most of the boards are ***destroying*** Nightblue for his toxicity, when half of PB is "We CaN gEt BaNnEd FoR BaNtEr, BuT tRolLs ArE fInE!" It feels like the twilight zone - While I can't say it's sudden for people to think ill of Nightblue, I can assuredly say it's sudden for so many people to chant "FreeNubrac" when they're usually so quick to scream about griefers. Exactly my point, NB3 isn’t innocent but that is how the system works, it doesn’t punish off a single case. I think he should be punished because he should be held to a higher standard and did break the rules, but by that same notion I want people to stop saying Nubrac is innocent when they would have reported themselves.
: One look at the "hot" page shows why Riot will never take these forums seriously
How much you wanna bet half of those people have post complaining about trolls in their games?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=0000000000000000000000010001,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:54:27.352+0000) > > Not a single one of those players were banned for what they said on stream, there was plenty of proof showcasing that those guys were being toxic, doubt you can find me a single shred of evidence that they had clean records and what they said on stream got them banned. > > And I’m not defending what he did, he did break the rules, I think he should be punished, but that isn’t how the system works, unless what you say is zero tolerance, you don’t instantly get banned If not only because I really don't want to afford the effort to dig back multiple years to find the defining moments that Pink Ward and Dunkey were banned for their streams, I'll let that rest. Shaclone was banned because he's (not even arguably) more toxic than Nightblue, and during every video showing his permabans (there was more than one) he was literally throwing very morbid death threats at ***RIOT*** on stream, which definitely doesn't help his case. That's really my main reason for including him. In regards to him eating a ban for everything he does, that's not what I want either. But in *this particular case*, he's gone ***FAR*** out of his way to make this a scandal, and he should be facing punishment for making this such a cucked situation that we're having such high-end discussions about it even here. But in defense of your point - he's gonna have a huge target on his back and a load of people watching his every move from here. He cucked himself harder than fucking US politics. He'll get a bit of profit from the rise in viewers looking for him to fuck up, but they're gonna relentlessly hunt a ban for him. I hate people...but they're ***very*** predictable in cases like this one.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=00000000000000000000000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-18T01:02:16.846+0000) > > If not only because I really don't want to afford the effort to dig back multiple years to find the defining moments that Pink Ward and Dunkey were banned for their streams, I'll let that rest. Shaclone was banned because he's (not even arguably) more toxic than Nightblue, and during every video showing his permabans (there was more than one) he was literally throwing very morbid death threats at ***RIOT*** on stream, which definitely doesn't help his case. That's really my main reason for including him. Fair I guess, not really sure that this makes it ok, but fair. > In regards to him eating a ban for everything he does, that's not what I want either. But in *this particular case*, he's gone ***FAR*** out of his way to make this a scandal, and he should be facing punishment for making this such a cucked situation that we're having such high-end discussions about it even here. But in defense of your point - he's gonna have a huge target on his back and a load of people watching his every move from here. He cucked himself harder than fucking US politics. That’s fine that’s on him, if he gets hit with a ban, that’s his own fault.
: "NA phenomenon"
Question, why aren’t you complaining about Sona, or Sivir, or Jinx, or any of the other multiple champions with higher pick, ban, play and win rates then her with a far low skill floor?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:21:57.996+0000) > > Because what he say on stream doesn’t correlate to what is said in game and unlike Nubrac, he didn’t reach the threshold of reports to be punished. Dunkey. Shaclone. Pink Ward. ESPECIALLY Dunkey. If you're a high profile streamer, there are 10s of thousands, sometimes even HUNDREDS of thousands, of people who watch you. You think toxicity is fine as long as you're effectively *verbally televising it*? If anything, they need to be held at a *higher* standard. These are people who garner public attention. They show this filth to people FAR beyond their games.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:32:44.357+0000) > > Dunkey. Shaclone. Pink Ward. > > ESPECIALLY Dunkey. > > If you're a high profile streamer, there are 10s of thousands, sometimes even HUNDREDS of thousands, of people who watch you. You think toxicity is fine as long as you're effectively *verbally televising it*? Not a single one of those players were banned for what they said on stream, there was plenty of proof showcasing that those guys were being toxic, doubt you can find me a single shred of evidence that they had clean records and what they said on stream got them banned. > If anything, they need to be held at a *higher* standard. These are people who garner public attention. They show this filth to people FAR beyond their games. And I’m not defending what he did, he did break the rules, I think he should be punished, but that isn’t how the system works, unless what you say is zero tolerance, you don’t instantly get banned
vimaid (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:21:57.996+0000) > > Because what he say on stream doesn’t correlate to what is said in game and unlike Nubrac, he didn’t reach the threshold of reports to be punished. He also went afk and was toxic flaming in game as well.
> [{quoted}](name=vimaid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:28:06.566+0000) > > He also went afk and was toxic flaming in game as well. Indeed, not for a moment defending what he did, I’m saying because of how the system works, NB3 hasn’t reached the threshold.
D3m37r1 (NA)
: What's with the nb3 controversy?
I feel like half these post are incredibly bias one way or another. Player has a “strat” where they abandon bot lane to fend for themselves to instead go support other lanes. Said player doesn’t communicate that he is going to do such. He does get mid first blood and doesn’t take cs, but in turn, bot gets its teeth kicked in because you know, surviving a 1 vs 2 especially at that elo is damn near impossible. Mid laner asks him to leave, he refuses, Nightblue3 throws a temper tantrum because of it and flames him and afking as does the rest of the team. After game, NB3 calls a Rioter out on discord and he gets banned though the jury is still out whether this is streamer privilege or not because other Diamond and Master players have been reporting him for a while when he does that in their games. Both sides are in the wrong
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:14:51.464+0000) > > Look, I’m not defending NB3, he deserves to be punished too, but people need to stop acting like they would be ok with people doing that kind of shit in their games. > > If someone has Nubrac on their team, they would be just as pissed. Couldn't agree more. They need to make examples out of toxic people, even if they are streamers. It is seriously crazy how he wasn't punished for what he said.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyskered Wyrm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:20:50.271+0000) > > Couldn't agree more. They need to make examples out of toxic people, even if they are streamers. It is seriously crazy how he wasn't punished for what he said. Because what he say on stream doesn’t correlate to what is said in game and unlike Nubrac, he didn’t reach the threshold of reports to be punished.
: Just out of curiosity, Boards user employment poll
Doubt he will post but I know Dominick Destine is a teacher as well
: Is Riot Listening?
Riot stopped visiting the forums regularly around the time anytime they posted their opinions or thoughts were given vile responses, insults, and generally called incompetent. If you want Riot back, this place needs to act like adults for once and actually discuss rather then circlejerk the current annoyance, berate anyone who doesn’t agree with them, and stop harassing each other.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:11:38.276+0000) > > Imagine defending trolling Never
> [{quoted}](name=Whyskered Wyrm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNnNTRTj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T00:12:06.796+0000) > > Never Look, I’m not defending NB3, he deserves to be punished too, but people need to stop acting like they would be ok with people doing that kind of shit in their games. If someone has Nubrac on their team, they would be just as pissed.
: Imagine loosing 4 years of your entertainment and life because you decided to play differently
Ornn (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3OOerpun,comment-id=00000002000100010000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T14:16:48.752+0000) > > You are bad because you think this is reasonable or possible at elos where people aren't bad at the game. In silver and bronze, yeah this is possible, players down there lack the skill to take advantage of something like that, at high elo however, not the case. you're delusional please stop replying
> [{quoted}](name=Ornn,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3OOerpun,comment-id=000000020001000100000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-17T14:20:26.831+0000) > > you're delusional please stop replying And you are bad, enjoy Silver.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=01RkUgtl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-16T15:59:31.500+0000) > > I would like for you to plad Vlad more then twice before critiquing him. Wow lucky for you I've played him more than twice!
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Summoner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=01RkUgtl,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-17T13:33:48.141+0000) > > Wow lucky for you I've played him more than twice! I very much don't believe that.
Ornn (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3OOerpun,comment-id=000000020001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T02:23:03.784+0000) > > I have never once defended his actions and think he is equally in the wrong, but if you think being able to 1 vs 2 from level one is possible, you are just bad. wait so im bad for being able to 1v2 in a lane am i or im i missing something? of course its possible thats how ganks work bud its 1v2 2v3 3v4 thats part of the game and thats part of being a raoming support he sat mid all game because evryone was afk sooking
> [{quoted}](name=Ornn,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3OOerpun,comment-id=0000000200010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T12:30:33.784+0000) > > wait so im bad for being able to 1v2 in a lane am i or im i missing something? of course its possible thats how ganks work bud its 1v2 2v3 3v4 thats part of the game and thats part of being a raoming support he sat mid all game because evryone was afk sooking You are bad because you think this is reasonable or possible at elos where people aren't bad at the game. In silver and bronze, yeah this is possible, players down there lack the skill to take advantage of something like that, at high elo however, not the case.
PekiCodex (EUW)
: Do YOU support non-meta strategies?
To a degree, but you need to talk to your allies about it first and it has to be something that is realistic.
NotSid (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1sEyP9T4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T05:13:39.613+0000) > > There is diversity and then what Nubrac did. If you had someone not jungle to triple bot, you wouldn't be happy. If you were jungle and the support followed you and smote all your buffs for himself calling it a new strat, you wouldn't be happy. You wouldn't be happy if your support said nothing, didn't go bot with you, and left you in a 1 vs 2 lane, please don't act like you would be happy. This is false equivalency. Your logic is fallacious and holds no relevancy to the subject at hand.
> [{quoted}](name=NotSid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1sEyP9T4,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T06:50:07.531+0000) > > This is false equivalency. Your logic is fallacious and holds no relevancy to the subject at hand. How so?
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1sEyP9T4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T05:13:39.613+0000) > > There is diversity and then what Nubrac did. If you had someone not jungle to triple bot, you wouldn't be happy. If you were jungle and the support followed you and smote all your buffs for himself calling it a new strat, you wouldn't be happy. You wouldn't be happy if your support said nothing, didn't go bot with you, and left you in a 1 vs 2 lane, please don't act like you would be happy. What you're describing is as dishonest as the OP Nubrac was not sitting there stealing cs, the lane split was still 1-1-1-2. XP was still efficient for the team overall, it just wasn't going onto the champion who wanted the early levels. Advantage was being created from gold. This isn't someone going around deliberately stealing camps. This is someone doing a wacky inefficient strategy that frustrated their team. Its getting annoying seeing what Nubrac did getting conflated with literally not contributing or actually intentionally feeding because that's dishonest. It's also annoying even when you concede what he did can be considered against the rules since it wasn't communicated with his team that NB3 breaking way more rules often ends up being dropped from the conversation. I get it, you'd hate having Nubrac on your team. I'd find it annoying but I've dealt with way worse and way better. Its just another gimmicky pick and frankly I'd rather have Nubrac's Teemo on my team than someone picking themselves into a counterpick they're inexperienced with and hard feeding. There's plenty of shit that won't get you banned that has a lower winrate than his weird mid support strat. And anyday I'd rather deal with him than an afk flaming in chat all day.
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1sEyP9T4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T05:57:41.047+0000) > > What you're describing is as dishonest as the OP > > Nubrac was not sitting there stealing cs, the lane split was still 1-1-1-2. XP was still efficient for the team overall, it just wasn't going onto the champion who wanted the early levels. Advantage was being created from gold. This isn't someone going around deliberately stealing camps. This is someone doing a wacky inefficient strategy that frustrated their team. Yes did it did, but if it starts here where does it end. It starts with the non support support teemo that lets the ADC become a minion and ends with triple bot smite, not trolling though, just a wacky inefficient strat. > Its getting annoying seeing what Nubrac did getting conflated with literally not contributing or actually intentionally feeding because that's dishonest. It's also annoying even when you concede what he did can be considered against the rules since it wasn't communicated with his team that NB3 breaking way more rules often ends up being dropped from the conversation. I agree with you, NB3 isn't innocent, I just want people to stop acting like they would want someone like Nubrac doing that in their games, hell, half the people I have seen make post about this have also made post complaining about trolls in their games. > I get it, you'd hate having Nubrac on your team. I'd find it annoying but I've dealt with way worse and way better. Its just another gimmicky pick and frankly I'd rather have Nubrac's Teemo on my team than someone picking themselves into a counterpick they're inexperienced with and hard feeding. There's plenty of shit that won't get you banned that has a lower winrate than his weird mid support strat. And anyday I'd rather deal with him than an afk flaming in chat all day. That is you, that isn't everyone, and what I have gathered around half the people making post like this.
: "Report every single person that does anything off meta in a game you lose. Context doesn't matter."
There is diversity and then what Nubrac did. If you had someone not jungle to triple bot, you wouldn't be happy. If you were jungle and the support followed you and smote all your buffs for himself calling it a new strat, you wouldn't be happy. You wouldn't be happy if your support said nothing, didn't go bot with you, and left you in a 1 vs 2 lane, please don't act like you would be happy.
: Riot is not Responsible for Streamers
Doesn't change the fact that he did break the rules.
Ornn (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3OOerpun,comment-id=0000000200010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T01:54:28.693+0000) > > It isn't about fighting, you wouldn't be able to farm at all, they are gonna hard zone you. You won't be able to push up to farm or get gold because they will deny you behind the exp line with their damage, life, and range advantage. The lack of support denies them they ability to do anything, they will be gold down, exp down, levels down, and be worthless without someone their to help take some of the ease off, that is literally what the support is there for. > > I really don't think you understand how difficult actually being in a 1 vs 2 lane is. look at my summoner name kid. my lane is 1v2 all the time either it be me getting camped in top or my adc is beyond garbage im 1v2 support. stop replying if you have nothing of value to add to this conversation you're clearly a nb3 fanboy and are ignorent to his actions
> [{quoted}](name=Ornn,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3OOerpun,comment-id=00000002000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T01:58:59.698+0000) > > look at my summoner name kid. my lane is 1v2 all the time either it be me getting camped in top or my adc is beyond garbage im 1v2 support. stop replying if you have nothing of value to add to this conversation you're clearly a nb3 fanboy and are ignorent to his actions I have never once defended his actions and think he is equally in the wrong, but if you think being able to 1 vs 2 from level one is possible, you are just bad.
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