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Profirix (NA)
: He will sit in trash tier until one day Riot decides to rework him. He was my main up until they decided to string nerf after nerf targeting his ability to support and I dropped him. Don't expect anything reasonable until he gets a rework. The champion creates too much angst when playing against him in a solo lane and had too much agency in pro play. Nothing but a complete and total VGU will get him the attention he needs or deserves. I just checked and his solo lane win rate dropped like a rock as expected. His support win rate got a slight bump, probably because of his passive regeneration in laning phase but his mid-late game win rate died with his ability to combo. Picking him now is making your team a 4v5 post 20 minutes.
The champions that riot makes/reworks are either weak and useless or too op and too strong that they nerf it too weak again. I think because riot focuses on pro play more. Obviously, pro players exploit champions and find the best champions for the patch.
: It's such an interesting thing. There were multiple champions with win rates higher than tahm in lane... granted.. tahm could beat most of them when played correctly. They just collectively buried Tahm over the last few changes. It's pretty incredible as it was really tough for any version of tahm to full carry a game. I started pretty late in this god forsaken game... only having played for 2.5 years really. I learned TK on a friend's suggestion as he was pretty basic and pretty versatile. The champion is now worthless. I don't know how this game will survive when it's so hard to pick up, and this team can somehow decide at any point to make someone's favorite/best champion completely unplayable. It's also ironic to me that I've never seen this with some of the more prolific dominant laners who can actually carry late game..
Top lane has become more irrelevant over the years as I main top lane and I watch quite a few games of competition play and pro games. You can see that the pattern that top laner rarely come into play during laning phase and have no damage output if you're a tank.
: I mean to be fair, Tahm’s spent most of his life on LoL in the dumpster cause riot’s NEVER balanced him well, to be honest I saw this coming because it happens waaaay too often.
The kit he was given was already broken. Same as Irelia, I used to main her until she was crazy nerfed and now a lot of people don't play her. I don't understand why riot balance champions based on 0.0001% of the league population.
: Working as intended
I agree with you but that just they just trashed a good champion
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: People have scores like this and then tell me not to surrender.
No, Alpha's never surrender games. YOU ARE NOT ALPHA. Learn to be an alpha like me. Then you can truly understand how counterplay and objectives can win the game but not kills. I never give up until they destroy my nexus. Before that happens, there's always a chance to come back. Just need to find their mistakes and amplify it like a true alpha. LEARN!
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: Shaco
I agree with you, but sometimes his boxes are crucial for team fights I would argue. (whole team aced because their adc was able to blow out big dmg) I am not a shaco main but I play him here and there. Does not do enough dmg but it's not horrible to the point of unplayable.
: Morde is fine
No, he kills me with passive. Bad!
: Is it me, or does a single bad week for ranked just completely fuck your MMR for the season?
Same here brother, My demotion shield is expiring even though I duo with a player one tier higher than me (I'm G4 he's P3). Riot matchmaking is insanely bad even when I win my lane, I lose the game either way. has been like this for like a month. Note that I climbed from S4 to G4 this season.
: I'm kinda getting annoyed that Riven's being left alone yet again.
Riot balance champions based on plat+ statistics, and competitive play (like 0.0001%). which only contains ~10-15% of the player base. What do you expect from RITOOOOOOOOOOOO. They dont care about the 80-85% player base.
: @Riot; Allied minions are team-killers but we have a potential solution
Honestly, I don't think it's necessary. Especially champs that ignore unit collision, that put too many disadvantages to certain champions (i.e urgot).
Sintama (NA)
: If you get counterpicked, all you can do is not feed and hope your team carries. That's it.
> [{quoted}](name=Sintama,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5Gyy9gwo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-24T06:11:35.461+0000) > > If you get counterpicked, all you can do is not feed and hope your team carries. That's it. I get that feeling that I just don't wanna walk around like an idiot and don't do anything. I feel so bad and people become toxic.
: If it's the type of counter that will constantly kill you: Just try your best to survive and scrape up what resources you can get. It's better to be behind then to let the enemy snowball off of you. If it's the type of counter that will just shut you down: hope the rest of your team has your back and do the best that you can. "Not doing well" is sorta the name of the game with hard counterpicks. For carrying with a counterpick, that requires you to be good with said champion. Just picking the counter to your enemy won't mean anything 9 times out of 10, particularly if your opponent knows how to play their champion well. Other than that, it's just a matter of leveraging your strengths against the enemy team
> [{quoted}](name=Wilk Rycerz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5Gyy9gwo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-24T06:13:05.562+0000) > > If it's the type of counter that will constantly kill you: Just try your best to survive and scrape up what resources you can get. It's better to be behind then to let the enemy snowball off of you. > > If it's the type of counter that will just shut you down: hope the rest of your team has your back and do the best that you can. > > "Not doing well" is sorta the name of the game with hard counterpicks. > > For carrying with a counterpick, that requires you to be good with said champion. Just picking the counter to your enemy won't mean anything 9 times out of 10, particularly if your opponent knows how to play their champion well. Other than that, it's just a matter of leveraging your strengths against the enemy team So, being behind is better than getting wrecked in lane. And I suppose a more reliable jungler could be potentially helpful to these kinds of situations?
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: Being flamed by High Elo players because of rank.
I personally don't flame people at all and it is not something that is tolerable. I feel you bro. they are assholes+big ego. just mute them and enjoy your game. there's always that mute button for you.
: Tahm's toplane situation explains the complete lack of balance for toplane.
Tahm is op I admit, I used to play him top for a while then I stopped. Recently I picked up Tahm kench top again. I feel bad for using him against weak early champs. But Tahm Kench is almost useless after the 25-30 minute mark. His late game does not do any damage at all and he is not tanky enough to hard carry. he might be very op early game, but late game is trash tbh. With any cc on him, it's basically over.
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: Their still nerfing Tahm support LMFAO
Tahm Kench top lane is god tier thanks to the "nerf"
Senamz13 (NA)
: Trust me bud, It doesn't get any better in Plat. When league players attain higher elo their ego increase as well. Everyone thinks they know everything and no ones willing to take advice from their teammates. Just as long as you know you are trying your best, staying positive, and you toxic free... You are the real winner
I would say it literally toxic free now, but feeders are not acceptable IMO really ruins the gaming experience especially in solo q.
: I'm sorry I told you things you didn't want to hear. I did read your whole post. Let me try a simpler version of what I said. Keep in mind that people aren't toxic or trolls just because they don't agree with you. I am not required to agree with you. Here's the TL;DR - You recently came off a 2-week ban. Focus on yourself instead of others and you will win more games, have fun playing, **and not get permabanned**.
Yes, thanks for the advice. I reformed and refrained from being toxic. What I've found is not talking back to them they get bored and stop toxicity. But feeding is just really unacceptable for me.
: yeah nobody likes losing games to trolls.. I lost a nunu game because a duo banned my champs then afked but if you want less trolls,, then git gud? climb out of your elo? maybe gank for your top laner... try to calm him down, give your team morale maybe don't be a r%%%% and nobody will spam ping you smurfing/having a second counter is allowed the harder YOU stomp, the less your team will rage, because everybody likes winning
Honestly I think every elo has griefing and trolling/feeding/inting going on. There's no way out of this. Just my opinion though :)
: Silver mentality
This happens in every elo, not just silver. I climbed from S4 to G3 played 450 games. Sometimes the jungler just camps you or support camps (very unlikely in higher elo though). I would say silver is the most toxic and ego inflated elo in league of legends since the majority of players sit in silver. I totally feel you and it sucks.
Jamlance (NA)
: Yes, I did just get banned and recently came back. I believe you quoted me without reading the entire post. Firstly, I'd rather come here and talk about player behavior than getting banned again in League because of toxicity. I admit I did not do well in those games. I did not say that I did well and I clearly said I cannot and will not blame people for having bad games. But If you play ranked, you will understand. It seems that you do not play many ranked games. I don't care less in normal games, you troll/feed all you want. BUT NOT IN RANKED GAMES.
Community is even toxic now. It's like someone has to be bashed talking about player behavior.
: Hmmm...so these are your first 4 games after precisely a 2-week break. Did you go on vacation or did you get a temporary suspension for flaming? > I honestly do not think that NA gold players are gold players. Ah, another "My troll team is holding me back." post. > I get affected by the trolling/feeding bad laner or jungle Perhaps you should stop to think that just maybe, you are affecting **yourself**. You want to play top lane, great. You need to focus on what you're doing, and not what your entire team is doing. Are you pushing when you shouldn't be? Not controlling the wave? Roaming mid to assist? Warding the river to help your jungler gank for you? > They just blame blame blame over and over and over on a forever cycle. Kind of like...what you're doing in this post?
Yes, I did just get banned and recently came back. I believe you quoted me without reading the entire post. Firstly, I'd rather come here and talk about player behavior than getting banned again in League because of toxicity. I admit I did not do well in those games. I did not say that I did well and I clearly said I cannot and will not blame people for having bad games. But If you play ranked, you will understand. It seems that you do not play many ranked games. I don't care less in normal games, you troll/feed all you want. BUT NOT IN RANKED GAMES.
Bossarij (EUNE)
: Diamond players giving up in games
No, if you play in NA, you will truly understand the genius toxic Mid-High Gold players. They are equal to Iron in other regions. I am very frustrated because they literally suck.
PavLoo (NA)
: I feel really ashamed.
People are toxic and report you without a reason, some people just spam that report button every single game no matter what. Don't worry about it I believe you are a good player like me :)
Rioter Comments
: I was banned for quoting a player
The best way to avoid Riot systems catching you is to speak completely opposite of what you mean. You can fully utilize satire/sarcasm (if he gets the joke). I use vocabulary such as "brilliant", the "best" team in the world, "genius" mid/top/jg/bot. Henceforth, you would be able to get the effect you desire but such words do not break the rules of Riot.
: HOW DOES LP GAIN WORK?
My friend Gold 4, I am silver 4. I get 25-27 lp when I win games with him. and lose 15-17 when I lose my games. And I started to get high silver/low gold players in all my games even without him. I still win around 50% but it was a steady climb for me. Play with higher elo players boost your MMR significantly because Riot system "thinks" you're a good player and matches you with better players than your elo. I recommend climbing with a Low diamond/high platinum player for a while and win games so Riot systems will give you higher elo players to play with and you gain big fat LP when you win and lose little LP when you lose.
Lock On (NA)
: Why punish me for doing well? (Ranked)
Welcome to the league of low elo! Anyways, either improve your mechanics and game knowledge and carry your way out, or you stay there forever. It's all the games and experience. watch higher elo players play style and try to use it in your games. Also, I personally think that jungle/bot would be more of a significant role in games that are easier to hard carry your team. All my friends got out of silver/gold by hard carrying their games.
: The key is to think small. Control your emotions? No, that's a very large thing and very hard to do. People are allowed to have emotions. You want to control your **reactions** to your emotions. Daily at work I'd like to send certain e-mails to certain colleagues, but I choose to control my reactions rather than lose my job. Same thing works in League or any scenario. Swear out loud, get a drink of water, punch a pillow or something. Choose a reaction that doesn't involve others.
That's very good advice. Thanks a lot, I will do that actually if I get had a bad day on league of legends. Mostly I don't tilt and have zero toxicity now.
: First, if you feel emotional, do not type in chat. Yell outloud if you must to get the frustration out, but do not start typing. That alone will help a great deal. Remind yourself that this is just a game. It's meant to be fun first and foremost. People get too caught up in being competitive to remember this point. Games are meant for enjoyment, not to be unkind to one another. Sometimes you will have people intentionally trying to get reactions out of you. Do your best to ignore them, whether it's them typing away in chat, spamming pings/emotes, etc. Whether that involves muting them in game is up to your judgement. It helps some people.
I will try to implement that into making my gaming experience better, thank you for the advice!
: everyone is gonna say its wrong to be toxic. but ik how it feel lolol best way to avoid it is especially if ur low elo and have nonsensical players all the time is just mute from beginning.
I'm not exactly low elo, but communication is sometimes important through chat in game. I can't just ban everything all the time if you can understand what I'm trying to say.
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: i agree with you irelia esp in her early game is kinda shit and it's hard to carry with her without a lot of skill but at the same time i don't want irelia spammed in my games after buff cuz shes cancer to play against
Yes, rito always design cancerous champions, including this rework. They found out that her kit was too strong, and nerf the s**t out of it and now she too weak.
slepokota03 (EUNE)
: shut your mouth {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
No Way, rito do smth pls
: Now that Yuumi has been released, can Riot please put a VETERAN designer on the next support champ?
I mean, Riot designs good and bad champions. Nobody is perfect including their design team, just live on with the new champ. It is enjoyable from my perspective. I enjoy playing league of legends even Rito does some bs nerfs to my main.{{champion:39}}
rockarsipu (EUNE)
: League of Legends Garen Carry S9
GAREN IS OP I MAIN HIM
: Have you been here for when Irelia was strong? She was meta for a season, it's time for her to take a break.
Oh yeah! Last season later patches Irelia was very op. And can easily punish top lane, she was one of the most banned/picked champs for a while until I believe the 8.24 or 9.2 patch she received two nerfs and some changes. Overall a great champ but I guess you're right! Maybe play some meta champs.
: Irelia is a champion that is EXTREMELY easy to punish if you do not know how to play her. There is a three step process when it comes to her. You need to know her mechanics, you need to know how to deal with her matchups, and you need to know her power spikes. If you are weak in any of those categories you will get stomped on her plain and simple. She will prolly lose to the very top tier top laners but thats just because those top laners are over tuned and not because she is weak.
My mechanics aren't the best, my play style was not as aggro as before the nerfs. But I land most E's and can easily follow up with a proper gank with minions around. Even solo kills are not that hard. But the movement speed early game is just miserable. most champs are just too fast to catch up. Especially champions like Jax, his E straight up rapes me in lane. And Fiora W. Because Irelia is a champ that relies on auto attacks since the passive stacks and abilities usually build off quick continuous auto attack damage. But items with attack speed and damage usually do not associate with Health and sustainability.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamlance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ENEqKors,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-16T12:43:31.150+0000) > > True that extremely good players can play Irelia very well. But you know most people like you and I do not play league 24/7 and cannot play like pros. They don't have to buff Irelia, they can nerf other champs, I don't really mind. As long as it makes the game more forgiving. Her WR is appropriate to her difficulty, if anything its slightly higher.
I made a point about buffing the abilities, and a little bit movement speed. If WR does not climb even after buffs, then it would be a player mechanic problem. According to op.gg, we are sitting at ~47% overall win rate. Which places her 133/144 champions in league of legends
: Yet the boards still think she's OP because...reasons?
Playing against Irelia is annoying, but not enough to kill you in lane. With almost no mobility without minions as I mentioned and extremely vulnerable when enemy jungler ganks. I do not know why people think she is OP. She does need a buff.
: Irelia has a Delta of 60% WR meaning people who know how to play her are doing well, i wouldnt hold my breath if you are expecting buffs to her
True that extremely good players can play Irelia very well. But you know most people like you and I do not play league 24/7 and cannot play like pros. They don't have to buff Irelia, they can nerf other champs, I don't really mind. As long as it makes the game more forgiving.
Νami (EUW)
: When you create a poll with two options with no middle ground it's kinda hard to choose an appropriate response. I don't think Irelia needs buffs, she's still very strong in the right hands but can be hard for a lot of people to play and master.
Thanks for the advice! First time posting on discussion boards actually. Your argument is perfectly valid. These are just personal opinions about the champion. As an Irelia main, I obviously wish that she could get buffed. You know Riot talks a lot about "balance of all the champions". It just seems impossible.
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