: > [{quoted}](name=Jigglypuff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gFb5Eaqf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-23T00:21:52.065+0000) > > I am top 5%... and I plan to get even higher, but this left a bad taste in my mouth Just the natural progression in skillsets is already hard enough to learn from without the system being so slow and inaccurate on top of it. It's just super easy to look at games and an individual's performance, particularly against something standard like average competition and see how much it stands out. It's clear just how much better this player's micro and macro skill set is compared to the 1500-1900 competition range he just breezed through. But his displayed rank isn't showing even plat level yet, so the League System hasn't caught up to the MMR system, and even great players can't win every game in a row. So eventually his progression stagnates awkwardly because the two systems aren't aligned and requires more games than it should to display the rank it should. Which results in more of steamrolly games like what you experienced, leading to a decreased quality of experience for every player involved in those games. I'm just trying to say that I consider this a dramatic flaw in the ladder system's design and have been adamant about that since early in season 2 in a rather well documented fashion on the forums. I don't like it taking that many games, it doesn't leave any one playing with or against that type of situation feeling good.
> [{quoted}](name=oOBestEveNAOo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gFb5Eaqf,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-04-23T00:34:29.657+0000) > > Just the natural progression in skillsets is already hard enough to learn from without the system being so slow and inaccurate on top of it. > > It's just super easy to look at games and an individual's performance, particularly against something standard like average competition and see how much it stands out. > > It's clear just how much better this player's micro and macro skill set is compared to the 1500-1900 competition range he just breezed through. But his displayed rank isn't showing even plat level yet, so the League System hasn't caught up to the MMR system, and even great players can't win every game in a row. So eventually his progression stagnates awkwardly because the two systems aren't aligned and requires more games than it should to display the rank it should. Which results in more of steamrolly games like what you experienced, leading to a decreased quality of experience for every player involved in those games. > > I'm just trying to say that I consider this a dramatic flaw in the ladder system's design and have been adamant about that since early in season 2 in a rather well documented fashion on the forums. > > I don't like it taking that many games, it doesn't leave any one playing with or against that type of situation feeling good. You are very intelligent dude!
: The individual skill metrics don't lie, that's a top 1% player at the helm and the system, unfortunately, isn't designed to progress his account properly or quickly. He's got probably 50 more games to be diamond, maybe 100 depending how many of those get trolled. It's not a lot of fun to be on the receiving end of it but there's no way to work the system faster, that player has to slog through a ton of games just to hit the right skill level. It's annoying for high level players as well because it means 100s of games even on fresh accounts that ladder up slightly faster. The only real way to fix that flaw is to take into account the individual skill metrics, and 16 games against average competition putting up those stats is more than a sufficient display of skill. More over, that performance can even be rated against other top 1% players to see kind of where it fits in with them and could potentially place this player in a more accurate skill bracket with 15-25 games. Instead of 100s. But I don't get to make those kind of decisions, just kinda piece together an entire system based to do it in the form of post game mastery score and then watch riot bungle the functionality of the concept 6 months later and become a useless appendage to the dysfunctional system.
> [{quoted}](name=oOBestEveNAOo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gFb5Eaqf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-22T23:50:15.578+0000) > > The individual skill metrics don't lie, that's a top 1% player at the helm and the system, unfortunately, is designed to progress his account properly or quickly. He's got probably 50 more games to be diamond, maybe 100 depending how many of those get trolled. It's not a lot of fun to be on the receiving end of it but there's no way to work the system faster, that player has to slog through a ton of games just to hit the right skill level. > > It's annoying for high level players as well because it means 100s of games even on fresh accounts that ladder up slightly faster. > > The only real way to fix that flaw is to take into account the individual skill metrics, and 16 games against average competition putting up those stats is more than a sufficient display of skill. More over, that performance can even be rated against other top 1% players to see kind of where it fits in with them and could potentially place this player in a more accurate skill bracket with 15-25 games. > > Instead of 100s. > > But I don't get to make those kind of decisions, just kinda piece together an entire system based to do it in the form of post game mastery score and then watch riot bungle the functionality of the concept 6 months later and become a useless appendage to the dysfunctional system. I am top 5%... and I plan to get even higher, but this left a bad taste in my mouth
BloopyLad (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jigglypuff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gFb5Eaqf,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-04-22T23:16:29.434+0000) > > Well I want to get better at this game and focus on things... not just playing and being a monkey, but I'm saying I'm playing against a challenger smurf and it's not enjoyable maybe if I learned something from it; however all I learned from it was he out rotated my jungler and stomped him Well... if you want to get better maybe play Flex Q - Focus on improving the points you're weak at and it won't impact your solo Q if you get a jungler/laner who plays like that again. I only play norms to focus on the "game" because games are supposed to be fun after all. And if a player ruins it... I don't get upset because it hasn't impacted me in the long term. You can learn from Flex Q because it's basically ranks training ground so people are still taking it seriously but you can focus on different things rather than all of them at once. I got better after playing norms because it allowed me to calm down and not let ranked become the sole priority in my life. (I'm not saying that's you xD) but by stepping back and looking at how I played in a collected way, I was able to see where to improve and also have more fun. ;D - Just a bit of past advice for you there
> [{quoted}](name=BloopyLad,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gFb5Eaqf,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-22T23:29:53.351+0000) > > Well... if you want to get better maybe play Flex Q - Focus on improving the points you're weak at and it won't impact your solo Q if you get a jungler/laner who plays like that again. > I only play norms to focus on the "game" because games are supposed to be fun after all. And if a player ruins it... I don't get upset because it hasn't impacted me in the long term. > You can learn from Flex Q because it's basically ranks training ground so people are still taking it seriously but you can focus on different things rather than all of them at once. > I got better after playing norms because it allowed me to calm down and not let ranked become the sole priority in my life. (I'm not saying that's you xD) but by stepping back and looking at how I played in a collected way, I was able to see where to improve and also have more fun. > ;D - Just a bit of past advice for you there Thanks z.z
BloopyLad (EUW)
: Take a break from ranked mate - Play some norms where nothing matters If you think that it doesn't matter = you start to focus on the more positive/fun things of the game :D
> [{quoted}](name=BloopyLad,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gFb5Eaqf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-22T23:14:31.161+0000) > > Take a break from ranked mate - Play some norms where nothing matters > If you think that it doesn't matter = you start to focus on the more positive/fun things of the game > :D Well I want to get better at this game and focus on things... not just playing and being a monkey, but I'm saying I'm playing against a challenger smurf and it's not enjoyable maybe if I learned something from it; however all I learned from it was he out rotated my jungler and stomped him
: How is this even fun to play against or fair... makes me not want to play league
Honestly go look at this guys winrate... why... at that point it's not even competitive in that elo it's just a stomp that you hope to learn something from and t hat is all you can get out of it.
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: 10 gemstones what to do
Use them all and see what trash you get!
: Depends on what you mean by "loads of views". If you can come up with a rough number it's pretty easy to search through them and spot the ones that are mediocre at best.
> [{quoted}](name=redniwediS,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gwzN1YdA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-22T04:48:29.393+0000) > > Depends on what you mean by "loads of views". If you can come up with a rough number it's pretty easy to search through them and spot the ones that are mediocre at best. I also want to know people from a different game that are popular; however they are not competitive and by popular I mean a rough estimate of 100 viewers at least at all times.
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: People do talk about this stuff, but it's mostly as informative talk since all debate on it has long since past. They say it, some people learn, and then it gets left behind where few people can find it. Worst part is it all slightly changes with each patch, so working off outdated information can really screw you over. People complain about a lot of things Riot does, but the worst thing they do is how they provide us with the resources we need to learn the game, or more accurately how they don't. For anyone who really wants to learn about the game you have to dig deep. Read the wiki, find a youtuber that actually talks about macro play, and check the subreddits for each champion you're learning a matchup for. The Boards can be helpful but are ultimately unreliable.
> [{quoted}](name=redniwediS,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3RY9pWaV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-22T04:13:13.045+0000) > > People do talk about this stuff, but it's mostly as informative talk since all debate on it has long since past. They say it, some people learn, and then it gets left behind where few people can find it. Worst part is it all slightly changes with each patch, so working off outdated information can really screw you over. > > People complain about a lot of things Riot does, but the worst thing they do is how they provide us with the resources we need to learn the game, or more accurately how they don't. > > For anyone who really wants to learn about the game you have to dig deep. Read the wiki, find a youtuber that actually talks about macro play, and check the subreddits for each champion you're learning a matchup for. The Boards can be helpful but are ultimately unreliable. You are so right on this and it is really sad... I actually get out played sometimes by not knowing the enemy champions cooldowns and having my cooldown be a half second too slow, so it's a huge learning curve and people think it's really easy to be one of the best, but you have to dig deep and really be willing to learn to be that good.
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: So much to know about league that people don't even know about. (Competitive talk)
I forgot another important fact... notice how the enemy champs react and play around you and your play style, you can tell when a gank is coming.... or if you can catch/gank someone
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: sooo....bruiser ekko? nothin new there brotato. they nerfed the shit out of it at the end of season 6 because of how many people were playing ekko as a hypermobile bruiser tank from hell.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkLordArbitur,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EoZJqBsa,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-20T03:25:05.878+0000) > > sooo....bruiser ekko? nothin new there brotato. they nerfed the shit out of it at the end of season 6 because of how many people were playing ekko as a hypermobile bruiser tank from hell. Still enjoying it... honestly 40% cdr if you put zhonyas in and you got super speed and can duel people... so it's still not too bad playing it in mid plat elo
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: AD ekko? Not a top laner but I would guess {{item:3748}} into tank, with a focus on pushing. So how wrong am I?
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AVXaEVG5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-19T03:49:54.645+0000) > > AD ekko? Not a top laner but I would guess {{item:3748}} into tank, with a focus on pushing. > > So how wrong am I? I don't actually like the pushing of that item :X I feel like the ad is not needed I guess mines more of a hybrid utility top laner at the end of the game I have Max cdr
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Besteau (NA)
: May i play one with u?
> [{quoted}](name=Besteau,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KuR9HPsy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-19T00:37:56.311+0000) > > May i play one with u? Hey bud sorry I didn't catch your post I would like to play with you add me in game and follow me on twitch!!! I'll get in contact when I can
: Will there be a really gay soundtrack to go along with your stream? http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png
> [{quoted}](name=Taric the Gay,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KuR9HPsy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-19T01:02:52.174+0000) > > Will there be a really gay soundtrack to go along with your stream? > > http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png Not currently doing music; however I need to setup my stream further tomorrow
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: > [{quoted}](name=Jigglypuff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T5uGFeEo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-04-16T06:50:44.077+0000) > > I never knew that :O I forget when they changed the rule to that. I wanna say it was season 5. It was coming right down to the wire though. Lux respawned 1 second after you killed Fiora.
> [{quoted}](name=ZerglingOne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T5uGFeEo,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-16T06:52:07.169+0000) > > I forget when they changed the rule to that. I wanna say it was season 5. > > It was coming right down to the wire though. Lux respawned 1 second after you killed Fiora. THEN YAY!
: Yeah, when you get a quadra and there's someone still alive, it waits until the first person comes back alive from your quadra before the timer expires.
> [{quoted}](name=ZerglingOne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T5uGFeEo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-16T06:44:42.260+0000) > > Yeah, when you get a quadra and there's someone still alive, it waits until the first person comes back alive from your quadra before the timer expires. I never knew that :O
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Kythers (NA)
: the gimmick is being good
> [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bJAUOE4f,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-21T21:16:39.191+0000) > > the gimmick is being good I hear taking medicine to focus helps
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: Looking for a team
: Does the client start doing a automatic repair?
> [{quoted}](name=ORNNStein sMORGh,realm=EUW,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=Mbym7j8L,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-19T10:25:27.732+0000) > > Does the client start doing a automatic repair? nope, just loading
: I still fail to understand why Zed isnt a jungler.....
: Nidalee and Kalista synergy?
No, her Q already has max damage and it shows in the skill bar
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: Do you even know what COUNTERING A CHAMPION is? Jesus christ, adapt your playstyle before you complain. The problem isn't Swain, it's you.
> [{quoted}](name=RenownedWheat42,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6VrEHkBA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-13T01:48:21.380+0000) > > Do you even know what COUNTERING A CHAMPION is? > > Jesus christ, adapt your playstyle before you complain. The problem isn't Swain, it's you. Sorry mister silver 5... that I am not informed like you are on how to counter a champion... let me buy this mortal reminder, so he can burst me ;o since he's a tank and a damage dealer at the same time and the highest winrate champion mid and one of the highest top lane.
: Do you even know what COUNTERING A CHAMPION is? Jesus christ, adapt your playstyle before you complain. The problem isn't Swain, it's you.
> [{quoted}](name=RenownedWheat42,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6VrEHkBA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-13T01:48:21.380+0000) > > Do you even know what COUNTERING A CHAMPION is? > > Jesus christ, adapt your playstyle before you complain. The problem isn't Swain, it's you. I think I'll just ban him, since he has the highest winrate mid... that means NOTHING IT DOESNT MEAN HES OP IT MEANS PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO ITEMIZE
: {{item:3165}} {{item:3033}} {{summoner:14}}
> [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6VrEHkBA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-13T01:31:01.009+0000) > > {{item:3165}} {{item:3033}} {{summoner:14}} I like when I have to build X to stop X champion otherwise they steam roll me, so if other X champion is doing good I can't buy X item for both champs
: "Swains' ult" (TOPIC)
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: I feel you. I just had the most toxic team. Two of them were a duo and spentbhalf the game typing. Insisting I Am a troll because I made a couple bad calls early game(basically just wasted a summoner and did a bad engagement) I just kept it cool and supported them anyways and we won but damn it was a long game.
> [{quoted}](name=TheRiddum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7IlPNgdW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-08T04:07:13.321+0000) > > I feel you. I just had the most toxic team. Two of them were a duo and spentbhalf the game typing. Insisting I Am a troll because I made a couple bad calls early game(basically just wasted a summoner and did a bad engagement) I just kept it cool and supported them anyways and we won but damn it was a long game. It's okay, I got a message saying that a penalty was issued to someone breaking the rules that I reported...
: I feel you. I just had the most toxic team. Two of them were a duo and spentbhalf the game typing. Insisting I Am a troll because I made a couple bad calls early game(basically just wasted a summoner and did a bad engagement) I just kept it cool and supported them anyways and we won but damn it was a long game.
> [{quoted}](name=TheRiddum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7IlPNgdW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-08T04:07:13.321+0000) > > I feel you. I just had the most toxic team. Two of them were a duo and spentbhalf the game typing. Insisting I Am a troll because I made a couple bad calls early game(basically just wasted a summoner and did a bad engagement) I just kept it cool and supported them anyways and we won but damn it was a long game. It's okay, I got a message saying that a penalty was issued to someone breaking the rules that I reported...
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: So? Someone told me yesterday in champ select to “dodge or I find u and kill u”. Still waiting on the feedback from those idiots at riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Paintchip,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7IlPNgdW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-08T03:34:30.542+0000) > > So? Someone told me yesterday in champ select to “dodge or I find u and kill u”. Still waiting on the feedback from those idiots at riot. I honestly wouldn't mind to encounter half of the people who are toxic in the league of legends community in real life, all the same I know this will never happen.
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: Why does PBE even have ranked queues? It serves no benefit to have more than one queue on such a small server.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oYxmHH4Y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-27T00:56:55.157+0000) > > Why does PBE even have ranked queues? It serves no benefit to have more than one queue on such a small server. Idk probably to test something with the que itself?
: I get people in normals there taking stuff seriously, flaming, cursing riot, and eventually leaving. I feel like punishments on PBE should carry over to the accounts they're connected to as well.
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oYxmHH4Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-27T00:42:31.188+0000) > > I get people in normals there taking stuff seriously, flaming, cursing riot, and eventually leaving. > > I feel like punishments on PBE should carry over to the accounts they're connected to as well. I agree with this statement lol... we are all just testing stuff for Riot on this, stop being Wukongs
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: Ahh, yet another bot laner blaming jg for their own inability to counter the people THEY are laning against.
> [{quoted}](name=Paintchip,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EHJYPN3P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-25T08:43:48.694+0000) > > Ahh, yet another bot laner blaming jg for their own inability to counter the people THEY are laning against. AHHHHH yet another stupid idiot thinking cait/brand can push non stop and have no penalities while denying you cs non stop with their poke :^) Lol trash these days, honestly
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