: I've always posted on this account. Not sure what you're talking about. Anyway, I was responding to the post the OP made. If he goes 0/15 in a game, he will not be punished because it was "just a bad game".
Yet you have no idea what actually happened in the game, because the game doesn't exist. You're just claiming that, in some hypothetical scenario in which somebody goes 0/15, they're having a bad game and therefore will not be punished. Your account is inactive in League since 2016, yet every time somebody even begins to talk about inting, here you are saying the same tired refrain. It offers nothing to the discussion, and it makes no real sense. 0/15 can easily be an intentional feeder. It can also be a noob, an experienced player getting camped (think Hashinshin's infamous Viktor game), or any number of shades of grey. I'm happy to dissect an ACTUAL game, but you just saying the same shit in every post doesn't accomplish squat.
Boppas (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Y62jMGQk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T02:19:57.373+0000) > > Because both ruin games, and flaming is obvious, where trolling is many times indistinguishable from having a bad game? If i went lets say 0/15 on purpose and say my top told me "Can you stop inting" then I go onto be a troll spamming in chat and top says to me "You are bad at the game" and gets chat banned and me going 0/15 is okey dokey?
You don't get to invent a hypothetical and then treat it as your primary example. Insulting your teammates is not okay. If they're trolling, for God's sake don't fucking feed them. If they're bad at the game, don't be a dick and insult them over it, you're helping nobody but your own ego. There's just no reason to flame people. It's not that hard, guys.
: Yup. You are covered by "just a bad game".
Your compulsion to say this in every thread where inting is mentioned has gotten to the point where nobody knows what the fuck you're trying to say any more. Is this your "complain about inting" forum alt or something?
: I got perm banned cuz my boyfriends sent me some gifts from the account he purchased online?
So you already made a support ticket and got a response? Showing us that response would give us something to work with here, otherwise we can only speculate.
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cILcoXmt,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-03-15T16:40:16.371+0000) > > No... You can say whatever the fuck you want. However, there might be consequences to what you say. Sureeeee
: UNFAIR PERMA BAN, ONLY GET BLITZCRANK BOT WHEN I OPEN A TICKET. *NEED MODERATOR PLEASE*
"In a game you just finished playing", yet this is word-for-word the exact same thread you made a month ago. You're banned, accept responsibility for it and move on.
: Chat restriction over this wtf?
Threatening your entire team with reports is unsportsmanlike and toxic, yes.
: plus it was a straight permaban he never got any chat restrictions or anything, I can even show proof
: Is scripting getting worse, or is it just me?
Could be scripts, could be somebody making a read/prediction or just doing standard happy feet clicking. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong or mistaken, but I'm not sure if I follow your logic regarding how you determine scripting. Lots of skillshots in this game are too fast/wide to effectively dodge without an element of prediction. Speaking for myself, I haven't seen any obvious scripters in some time.
Rudeus (EUW)
: How do I appeal A 14 days ban
Your shitty "friend" is the one who owes you satisfaction for this, not Riot.
: I actually ran the numbers on this account since I have only played 120 games on the account and I only had 6 "remakes" overall, which is 5% of my games. I disagree with the system being exceptionally harsh on a guy who is not actively trying to ruin games. 5% equates to roughly 54 players that have had their experience "ruined" by my shitty computer and of those only 36 were in Ranked. 36 out of a few million players had 3 minutes of their life taken away by a shitty computer and no LP lost. That's a win to them and a huge L to me. I'd like a system that will dole out lesser punishments for remakes as compared to people who leave the game and make it a 4 v 5 after the window to remake has passed by. That would be far better off for a lot of people. I know how it is when you have to remake, I feel bad that I've wasted your time. Before I queue up, I usually check everything. It rarely ever happens. Why should the punishment for something far worse be the same for a remake?
You're conveniently ignoring the games that you've left that WEREN'T remakes. I count at least two games in your recent history where your team was forced to play 4v5.
BradNo (NA)
: You don't have to worry about me. I have enjoyed my time playing league. I will not get banned anytime soon.
I mean, calling folks autistic will probably get you there, if you don't pivot. It's a hateful thing to say, and your story is a clear indication of how it can be detrimental to your team's cohesion.
Fęro (NA)
: I said before, how am I supposed to know if my issues were fixed if I'm not replicating the crash conditions?
Try a custom game or bots, run the repair tool, post on the tech support forum, idk. Don't use random strangers as guinea pigs, though.
: i cant find the thread anymore but someone posted a screenshot of someone in his team telling him to kys and to get a gun and blow his brain out, he linked the game and showed that its almost 3 days old with the person still playing. this reminds me of that "69 army" or whatever they are called who I THINK were the first to say "0 tolerance phrases should be called 1 time tolerance phrases" because using them ONCE does not get you banned.
And yet, plenty of logs on these boards of single uses of zero-tolerance words and phrases resulting in bans. That discord group is unscientific at best.
BradNo (NA)
: we didn't lose because she left. We lost because my adc didn't come to Baron. Edit: Are you feeling better?
I can't imagine either situation helped your team's chances of winning. Turns out I didn't have the flu, but rather a huge allergic reaction to mold that had grown in my office's walls due to a pipe burst, which kept me out of commission for weeks before it was removed. I am indeed better now, thank you. But now that you've reminded me of who you are and I've gone back and checked the previous thread, I'm concerned that you are indeed going to get yourself banned. Just don't flame people, it's not worth it. You may have even cost yourself the game in this situation due to it.
Sęraph (NA)
: Is "kys" automatic ban?
By design, it's a zero-tolerance phrase resulting in a minimum 14-day ban, and a perma if it's not their first rodeo. In practice, the system will sometimes miss people. There's no good explanation for why this is, it just be like that. Note that you are NOT guaranteed or even likely to receive a notification of a punishment based on your report, so don't make assumptions based on a lack of notification.
: guess i cant convice anyone here atleast it wasnt a perma ban if i ever feel like playing again i guess i will start with coop games
I mean, you're not offering even slightly convincing excuses. I'm not sure what your purpose in this thread is to even begin with.
BradNo (NA)
: I called my mid laner "Autistic" and he/she left the game because of it.
Yes, you're both in the wrong. This is also a prime example of why the mute button isn't an excuse for toxicity: your mid laner should have handled it better when you started flaming them, but meanwhile, your other three teammates now suffer a loss because you decided to flame, and they have absolutely no recourse.
Fęro (NA)
: BS 20 minute low priority queue
So you know that you've been crashing a lot lately, but you've continued to enter games with other players? That's exactly the behavior Leaverbuster is designed to prevent. It's your responsibility to have a computer in good working order if you're going to put yourself on a team with other players who need you present.
RallerenP (EUW)
: You were gold and silver in your last 3 seasons. Meaning you absolutely have a basic understanding of how the game works. Had you been in Iron or maybe even Bronze, I could've accepted that, but not when you've been playing consistently enough to get gold multiple seasons, including the last one. You don't just lose your sense of how to play in the span of a season. At this point, I've scrubbed through your replay, and nothing you say will convince me you weren't 'soft inting' that game, sorry.
“Soft” is even generous. He died about as often as physically possible, given the time parameters.
: Quick question
> [{quoted}](name=TheGermanDream,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RHMERvli,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-17T17:38:01.030+0000) > > Is there a way to check a ban status on people? I.E ban record, currently banned and if yes for how long? No, there's not. You may be able to identify a conspicuous 14-day gap in somebody's play history, but other than that, it's not public information. > > Edit: P.S it's incredibly hard to not be toxic in this game, if someone flames you it's incredibly hard not to respond. For you, maybe. For others, no. It's incredibly easy for me to mute and move on with my life. I'd suggest learning the same if you want to keep your account in good standing.
: Wrongfully banned after a long time of not playing
I assume you were banned for intentional feeding? Well, I don't know how to watch your replay since you're on a different server than me, but your stats imply feeding for sure. You died 16 times in 19 minutes, you didn't place a single ward, and your build isn't actually going anywhere. You have two recurve bows, and the two daggers implies you were going to buy a third rather than actually complete any item. It also doesn't take a Kog'maw player to recognize that maxing Q isn't correct on that champ. You've been Gold since season 6, so I'd have a hard time attributing this to inexperience, regardless of how long a break you've taken.
: Is being new to a champion and having a bad game reportable?
Who gives a shit if you get reported? Unjustified reports do nothing. You gotta learn new champs somehow, and bots are bullshit.
: Then just give him a leavearbuster? Just being afk in fountain doesn't warrant a 2 week ban under any circumstances. Some games are unwinnable and your team won't ff. I'm not saying going afk is okay, I'm saying you shouldn't be falsely banned for inting for it.
Unilaterally giving up the game against the wishes of the rest of your team has the exact same effect as intentionally feeding. It's just a different means to the same end. Glad to see Riot cracking down on it.
: you should lock this thread. it is necroed.
> [{quoted}](name=Inkling Commando,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cBfF2qVH,comment-id=0008002d,timestamp=2019-03-17T02:14:47.737+0000) > > you should lock this thread. it is necroed. I sure hope not, the downvotes are legendary.
: Guess i'm part of the rare 0.006% now...
People acting like sportsmanship, teamwork, and cooperation are some sort of invasive new-wave of anti-fun priorities baffle me. Also: >saying something considered "flame" when it's just the truth If I said "You are now banned", I'd be stating simple, objective, neutral truth. If I said "Your attitude is toxic and unrepentant, and this game will be infinitely better now that you've been shown the door", I'd be stating what's true to _me_, but it would be _fucking ludicrous_ for me to somehow assume that that wouldn't be antagonistic towards you, and if I made a similar statement during a game in which you were on my team, I'd be deliberately fucking up team morale and cohesion. You've had plenty of chances to understand why that's a bad thing.
: Guy making fun of New Zealand incident.
Internet edgelords invoking recent tragedies like this do it for the attention. You’ve given him that attention. Go ahead and report him. A forum post on the subject isn’t necessary.
Dr Arez (NA)
: It's not worth posting b/c the whole point was not that I'm innocent or that I'm trying to skirt the chat ban. Did I call them out, repeatedly, and say that they should be banned? Yes, which is apparently toxic enough to warrant a chat ban. Entirely not the point of my post. It's that punishment has been dolled out to me, but NOT the trolls in the first place. Will they troll more when I call them out... maybe. It's something to consider. My logic though is that if it was a public place and someone flashed their junk and I pointed and yelled out for someone to stop them... then the cops showed up and gave me a ticket for calling out the flasher while they let him walk off with his coat closed. We would be having a very different discussion then. Logical fallacy, red herring, w/e.
How do you know that they weren't punished, or aren't currently pending a punishment? Feedback notifications are inconsistent and rare, and trolling often requires a manual review to detect, unlike verbal toxicity.
Dr Arez (NA)
: Chat ban system is so broken...
You realize "calling out" trolls just emboldens them to troll more, and actively rewards their behavior? Let's see your logs.
: yet another perma riot, FIX YOUR PRE 30 GAME .
Isn’t you getting banned evidence that they’re working to fix pre-30?
Qoperk (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TFZElGRE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-14T20:14:15.416+0000) > > It looks like you picked Katarina support, didn’t build an actual support item, warded twice the entire game, and died 20 times in 23 minutes. I have a hard time seeing that as anything other than intentional feeding. i got kata mid got flamed by yasuo, who then decided to take my mid i got very tilted, im more interested why doesnt my 7 years behavior matter anything and got no warning (i know the ban counts as warning before permaban but what happened to real warning)
You get no warnings against inting. If anything, your history only serves to prove that you should have known better. If you’re that sensitive to having your lane taken, don’t play blind pick.
Qoperk (EUNE)
: 14 day ban for feeding
It looks like you picked Katarina support, didn’t build an actual support item, warded twice the entire game, and died 20 times in 23 minutes. I have a hard time seeing that as anything other than intentional feeding.
flying (NA)
: Nothing feels worse than getting punished for raging at a griefer/inter
You realize trolls do what they do for those exact reactions, right? You reward their behavior and embolden them to continue trolling by raging at them. Please stop doing that.
: Smurfs flame on
By your own admission, you struggle to farm properly and have a warped sense of power spikes due to playing urf. Playing against intermediate bots will help at least somewhat in bridgingthat gap. This game has a steep learning curve, though, so there’s no single beat way to learn. You’ll need to crawl before you can walk.
: 2 Griefers Ruined Mine and My friends game, and got me honor locked.
Regarding your OP edit: Maintaining the moral high ground must be pretty easy when you refuse to even consider the point of view of others. I guarantee you, I’m at least as bothered as you are by hate speech in video games. Those fuckers deserve to lose their accounts over it. To say that I and people like me are somehow “neutral” in this is fucking ridiculous. Here’s the crux of the issue: trolling in league dies an ignoble death the second we all stop feeding the trolls. You value the rush of righteous indignation more than the actual proven path to prevent such behavior. Those trolls ENJOYED your reactions. You ACTIVELY REWARDED their behavior. You benefited NOBODY BUT YOURSELF by flaming them. You’re not “honorable”, you’re just a virtue signaler.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7VV11Ug2,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-03-13T12:21:57.351+0000) > > Your mistake here is assuming that I'm somehow accepting of their trolling. I'm very much not. The problem here is that you responded incorrectly. > > You flamed them, objectively. Repeatedly insulting somebody is flaming them. You don't get to unilaterally declare that this "doesn't count" as flaming because you're "stating facts" or whatever. Because seriously, how would that even work? Should the rules state "Insulting your teammate is against the rules, _unless they seriously deserve it_"? You're not the wielder of objective truth and judgment. You're a player like any other. > > You're correct that you probably never had a chance to win the game. You should have dodged the game once they started trolling in champ select. Having missed that opportunity somehow, your next best action would have been to mute the trolls and not feed them, so as to both protect yourself and rob them of the enjoyment they gain from trolling. Hell, they may have even stopped trolling if you hadn't fed them, though that's a low-probability result. Still, you could have silently lost the game while getting whatever enjoyment was available between you and your friends via discord, then moved on to the next match and forget this ever happened. > > Instead, here we are. You're honor-locked, chat-restricted, engaged in a cyclical internet argument, full of undeserved righteous indignity, demanding treatment that'll never happen. This is what happens when you feed trolls. Please learn from this and don't feed trolls in the future. I'm shocked people think this way. If calling someone degenerates and hopeless human beings when they are trying their hardest to be the worst human beings imaginable is wrong, I don't want to be right. I'm being punished when I was the victim. Truly backwards. It's like the police arresting an assault victim for assault because I defended myself.
No, it's throwing two drunken idiots out of a bar for fighting each other, regardless of who started it. "Don't feed the troll" is the oldest mantra of the Internet, and yes, going out of your way to insult somebody who is blatantly baiting you into that insult is wrong. I'm genuinely shocked that YOU somehow think otherwise. Is this your first online gaming experience? Are you unfamiliar with how trolling works?
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7VV11Ug2,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-03-13T12:13:24.125+0000) > > you spent most of the game harassing and arguing with those two instead of playing the game, which is not ok > Caprificus: its gonna feel good knowing you lost all your shit > > seeing toxic stuff like this on this forum is more common than you might like to think. yes, you read that right: "toxic" Are you intentionally trying to be closed minded? As I said in the post, they said far more, but I was only filling in what I was directly responding to. And, again, they were griefing our game. Feeding, ruining lanes, and talking all game. Even despite that I had highest gold gold income, and kill participation, so no, I wasn't "spending most of my game harassing 2 degenerates." Jesus, do you even realize you're defending homophobes and transphobes?
You're doing infinitely more damage to the LGBTQ community by feeding trolls. These players now know that they can trigger a passionate, angry response in you that can even lead to you getting chat restricted. Because you fed the trolls, the trolls won, and will now go on to continue to troll.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7VV11Ug2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-13T12:05:16.596+0000) > > So you and your friends has the option to dodge when clearly confronted with trolls in champ select, but opted not to. That's a mistake, though not against the rules. > > Then, you got trolled. Rather than mute them and move on with your life, you engaged with the trolls and fed them. That's a HUGE mistake, as it's against the rules, detrimental to your chances of winning, and detrimental to the community as a whole. > > We're not interested in your re-creation of the full chat logs. You don't get to choose when flaming is justified or not, you're just expected not to do it. You're welcome to post your unedited logs as provided in your reform card. We never had a chance to win that game. They were griefing. Doing everything in their power to make the game unfun for us. It's not possible to win as 3. I didn't flame anyone. I called a spade a spade. If calling someone who is making fun of trans people and gay people, as if they're just a class of people, a degenerate, I think you're the one who is backwards. Posted logs anyway. I don't have anything to hide because I wasn't doing anything wrong.
Your mistake here is assuming that I'm somehow accepting of their trolling. I'm very much not. The problem here is that you responded incorrectly. You flamed them, objectively. Repeatedly insulting somebody is flaming them. You don't get to unilaterally declare that this "doesn't count" as flaming because you're "stating facts" or whatever. Because seriously, how would that even work? Should the rules state "Insulting your teammate is against the rules, _unless they seriously deserve it_"? You're not the wielder of objective truth and judgment. You're a player like any other. You're correct that you probably never had a chance to win the game. You should have dodged the game once they started trolling in champ select. Having missed that opportunity somehow, your next best action would have been to mute the trolls and not feed them, so as to both protect yourself and rob them of the enjoyment they gain from trolling. Hell, they may have even stopped trolling if you hadn't fed them, though that's a low-probability result. Still, you could have silently lost the game while getting whatever enjoyment was available between you and your friends via discord, then moved on to the next match and forgot this ever happened. Instead, here we are. You're honor-locked, chat-restricted, engaged in a cyclical internet argument, full of undeserved righteous indignity, demanding treatment that'll never happen. This is what happens when you feed trolls. Please learn from this and don't feed trolls in the future.
: ***
They're at least two years older than they were when they made this ancient-ass thread. How did you even find this?
: > Actually, continually bothering someone once they've disengaged with you is considered harassment. So then, if they're continuing to bother you, you report them and let the Moderators deal with it. You're not adding anything by reiterating that you're done with a discussion - if you're bowing out, _bow out_. Don't repeat what you've already said for the sake of getting the last word in.
You're not being harassed, you're being persistently disagreed with. For whatever it's worth, I think you're both wrong. Assumptions are pointless in this thread. OP wasn't clear enough, and must provide additional information before an assessment or recommendation can reasonably be made.
: 2 Griefers Ruined Mine and My friends game, and got me honor locked.
So you and your friends has the option to dodge when clearly confronted with trolls in champ select, but opted not to. That's a mistake, though not against the rules. Then, you got trolled. Rather than mute them and move on with your life, you engaged with the trolls and fed them. That's a HUGE mistake, as it's against the rules, detrimental to your chances of winning, and detrimental to the community as a whole. We're not interested in your re-creation of the full chat logs. You don't get to choose when flaming is justified or not, you're just expected not to do it. You're welcome to post your unedited logs as provided in your reform card.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: >What's more likely, that OP inexplicably jumped a punishment tier unjustifiably or that the vague original post simply didn't mention the previous penalty? both of those things have been known to occur so the likelyhood of either being more true than the other is irrelevant > the first thing we need to do is ask him to clarify the situation. and there's no harm directing to him to the support at the same time
I disagree wholeheartedly. I can count the number of incorrectly administered punishments I've seen on one hand, while I'd need a hefty ledger to count the number of bullshitting OPs on these boards. Support is known to be understaffed, so directing them there without asking for clarification first somewhat devalues these boards while also pushing innocent people back in the queue.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: ***
What's more likely, that OP inexplicably jumped a punishment tier unjustifiably or that the vague original post simply didn't mention the previous penalty? Rather than directing OP to support or assuming he's lying, the first thing we need to do is ask him to clarify the situation.
: Not really. Trash talking is an important part in many competitive sports, I would say the same for you, as anyone denying that has clearly never watched any competitive game/sport, at all.
Watched? I _played_ actual sports at the highest available level of competition between the ages of 9 and 19.
PhoPhoW (EUW)
: How many hours is it sane to play LEAGUE per day?
I can’t imagine how this wouldn’t vary person to person. Does the time you spend League cause you to miss opportunities that you regret missing? Do you feel a compulsion to play League when you’re not actively playing it? Then you might be addicted. No? Then you’re just a gamer like any other.
: I got the same email today.. absolutely not true, I've had the account for 10 years and I'm the only one that's playing on it.. no 3rd party software or whatever.. my account is like level 60 or something as well by now. This is absolutely crazy
So make your own thread and support ticket about it.
: Keep Banning Me, I'll Keep Making Accounts
I continue to fail to see how "competitive" and "flaming" are supposed to go hand-in-hand. Folks who think this have never played an actual competitive sport in their lives.
: Trash ban system
How many threads are you going to make about the one guy? If they were a troll, then their mission is accomplished about a _million fucking times over_ though how much you're feeding into their ego. Shit dude, somebody fucked with you on the internet and got away with it, move on.
grisiano07 (EUNE)
: ***
NOT BY BUMPING THREADS FROM TWO YEARS AGO
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