: her name is not evie you moron
That fact that you have to insult me to get your message across says a lot about you. Evie wouldn't disagree at all lol
La Bello (NA)
: why do you keep referring to yourself in 3rd person as "we"? Are you Ermac or something? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b8/ErmacMKXrender.png/235px-ErmacMKXrender.png
Because i can't give all the credit to myself. It is Evie who is carrying and helping me. Who is Ermac?
: Evelynn is already extremely strong, she doesn't need any buffs whatsoever right now. And considering how powerful she becomes past level 6, her pre 6 status is supposed to be weak and punishable.
She actually received a strong indirect NERF when riot weakened the domination and sorcery runes a few patches ago. And you are obviously an amateur with Evie.
Lùmen (EUNE)
: who is evie
I am 12 (EUW)
: Wait is there a champ named evie in league? or are we talking about paladins?
: The fact you call her 'evie' is so weird lmao
Well all real OTPs have a nickname for their champion. You wouldn’t understand since you are not one.
: I find it really cringy that you keep calling her "Evie"
: > [{quoted}](name=Jocelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GZowWa6y,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2018-09-28T08:51:44.917+0000) > > CC is a natural counter to assassins not just Evie. You need to learn how to outplay it... Maybe that is why you currently have a winrate below 50% with her. Remember, its all about patience when playing Evie. Stalk the prey then seduce, listen to Evie. > > Her abilities are fine, no changes or mini reworks are necessary on Evie. And i can prove this fact statistically; My KDA and winrate from both my accounts in NA and LAN are outstanding. I would recommend you to record one of my games and mimic what i do. Hopefully, this will remove your blindfold fellow Evie main. > > Also, You keep bringing up the old expired Evelynn. > Personally, i feel that that the Evelynn rework was a great success and made her more effective as a stealthy assassin. Feels like i have way more control of her ganks now with her new kit. XD Yeah Crabby you should watch and mimic hehe
Yea feel free to record my games. I dont mind
: The discussion has nothing to do with the power level of Eve, it has everything to do with how she plays. Eve went from having varied playstyles and wide decision making to being a binary stat check with huge delays. There is nothing they did with her kit that made her more fun besides her new ult. And the problem isn't that she does a lot of damage, it's how people can feel hopeless when you're CC'd from stealth. This was a problem with the original eve and it was a problem with Rengar. She needs to be addressed in some way and you can either join the discussion or just close your ears and pretend like there isn't any issues at all.
CC is a natural counter to assassins not just Evie. You need to learn how to outplay it... Maybe that is why you currently have a winrate below 50% with her. Remember, its all about patience when playing Evie. Stalk the prey then seduce, listen to Evie. Her abilities are fine, no changes or mini reworks are necessary on Evie. And i can prove this fact statistically; My KDA and winrate from both my accounts in NA and LAN are outstanding. I would recommend you to record one of my games and mimic what i do. Hopefully, this will remove your blindfold fellow Evie main. Also, You keep bringing up the old expired Evelynn. Personally, i feel that that the Evelynn rework was a great success and made her more effective as a stealthy assassin. Feels like i have way more control of her ganks now with her updated kit.
: I just can't stand the new evelynn. She went from being my second most used character to one I avoid playing at all costs. Removal of on-hit build, removal of AD build, hybrid build, god awful pathing due to lowered speed and removal of W to move between monsters. She feels gimped because she has a hard CC out of stealth attached to her damage so the rest of her kit is awful to use.
Sounds like you gave on her... Takes time and dedication to truly master a champion. I have over 2k games played with her this season and it paid off obviously. I consider myself mastery lvl 10 with Evie xD.
mirAcIe (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jocelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GZowWa6y,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-28T07:45:41.233+0000) > > OTP = One Trick Pony > > Why are you lying to me xD just saw your stats in op.gg .-. Check seasons before this one? Lol I never played reworked Evelynn on this account because I don't enjoy her binary playstyle.
I did check you past seasons. What you have in record doesnt prove that you were an OTP for any champion... based on the number of games played you had with champions
mirAcIe (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jocelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GZowWa6y,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2018-09-28T07:40:14.723+0000) > > Lol of course i know what im talking about. Im an otp Evie main. I guarantee you i have 101% more games played with Evie than you. > > Ignorance I have been playing Evelynn since 2012, and the statements you made in this thread clearly show that you're delusional. I thought you just wanted to keep her freelo, but when you asked for buffs I realized you actually don't know anything.
I explained why a stat buff for Evie would be appropriate for her in the main discussion, i cant fix ignorance sorry.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jocelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GZowWa6y,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2018-09-28T07:40:14.723+0000) > > Lol of course i know what im talking about. Im an otp Evie main. I guarantee you i have 101% more games played with Evie than you. > > Ignorance You're talking to a person who OTP'd Eve for years.
OTP = One Trick Pony Why are you lying to me xD just saw your stats in op.gg .-.
mirAcIe (EUW)
: You clearly don't know what you're talking about if you unironically ask for a buff on an obnoxiously OP tier 1 jungler that has been evading nerfs for quite a while.
Lol of course i know what im talking about. Im an otp Evie main. I guarantee you i have 101% more games played with Evie than you. Ignorance
: Pfffff plat 1 in LAN.... Not saying that your points are not valid just that maybe you aren't the best person to talk about this
Personally, Its slightly easier for me to climb in NA than in LAN. This Is my other account in NA. Placed in Gold 2, With exceptional KDA and winrate 9 wins 1 loss (Placements) If i may ask what is your Elo lol since you are talking about server worthiness. http://imgur.com/jRlIwcB
Stone766 (NA)
: As a fellow Evelynn main I agree that she doesn't need any stupid changes right now. She isn't broken. Also the new leaked evelynn skin better be 1350 RP can't wait for it :)
La Bello (NA)
: my one problem with eve is SOMETIMES. in the late late game (6 item {{item:3100}} {{item:3089}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3041}} ) Eve doesn't have to use W to kill which kinda takes away her strongest counterplay point. You have to keep your squishies boxed in at ALL times or else Eve just rounds the corner and E+R's them for a instakill Even through {{item:3156}} meaning Eve usually forces out a SECOND MR buy or mandatory {{item:3026}} . ITs super frustrating gameplay because theres no heads up involved at all. Just the SURPRISE! ITS GREYSCREEN! It would be nice if W was a made a bit more mandatory to net kills because atm if you surpass your targets MR via items {{item:3020}} {{item:3916}} Allure stops having impact on damage and becomes purely a utility skill.
#Mid and Late Game Personally, we still use allure on enemy champions when they dont build MR or are just too squishy even with MR. However, we proc it immediately not to charm/reduce mr% but to slow them. 65% slow. W then Q immediately is the most known combo for this. But i usually throw my Q then W simultaneously slowing them down unexpectedly then going in for the kill with my E+Qx1+R The best way to counter a fed Evie is by staying close to your fellow allies. Preferably an ally with high CC. If you play ADC then hug your support if a fed Evie is lurking around. Because yea she can kill squishys faster than killing a cannon minion.
: > [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GZowWa6y,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-09-28T03:59:08.995+0000) > > Flat out her wave clear is bad because she is not supposed to be wave clearing. Well she used to be able to clear waves and take towers on her own. I just want what a basic jungler can do.
She can actually clear very fast and can do lots of damage to towers, depends on how fed she gets. If the enemy team is dead then clear waves, destroy towers, objectives; that is the most sensible thing to do in that situation since Evie cannot fulfill her job as an assassin until the enemy team respawns. Sometimes, though it is better to farm than score kills. Examples include: - Entire ally team is dead enemy team is _grouped_ pushing - Both ally and enemy team are _grouped_ contesting lane dominance. Split pushing will cause the enemy team to send one or two or more to the pushed lane. This is what Evie wants, its easier more safe to score kills when they are not grouped. - Ally died in lane, huge minion wave is about to die to tower. Valuable gold and most importantly EXP to reach that lvl 6 goal asap.
: I sorta loved the infinite hate spike machine gun though... She just lack the power to clear waves crashing in towers, and the ability to protect them if needed.
An assassins job is to kill, not to clear waves/push waves. Especially with Evie. Revealing Evie’s position over some petty minion farm is not worth it and a huge mistake! And are you talking about her Q in URF?
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