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: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=0003000100000001,timestamp=2018-12-20T22:29:02.905+0000) > > Riot Games should not skip directly to a 14 day ban > A step by step system should have been implemented to ensure the player is getting banned for a good reason and have got multiple reasons Lol its not like they do it with every rule you break. You broke once of those rules and got a 14 day ban dont get me wrong i feel sorry that for a int but i cant see that as a excuus for what you said!
Sorry but when you are angry over someone inting, you do not think at a time like that. you have no actual control you just spew out words that may be offensive, but Riot just doesn't care do they? I said jk multiple times to try to reverse what I have said but NO
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebicaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=000300010000000100000001,timestamp=2018-12-20T22:38:02.363+0000)Alright mate all im trying to say is that that is not extreme behavior. It uses derogatory terms that Riot considers extreme behavior, and those terms are generated from behavior the community at large has shown to have an extremely low tolerance for. Neither you nor I control that, and we may have differing opinions on the severity of behavior. >Just find in your heart where this man is coming from. I understand where he's coming from: I've read his perspective, and I've had numerous inting players in my own games. I simply don't agree the punishment was necessarily inappropriate. It's commonly assumed that I have no sympathy for punished players, and that's far from the truth -- there are a number of improvements to the system I would like to see, but, even *with* that sympathy, I cannot support the actions this player took. It is one thing to be frustrated, but this level of expressing that goes what I would personally consider well beyond the normal response in this sort of situation and, ultimately, it is up to us to control our own responses to situations that infuriate us.
Sorry but when you are angry over someone inting, you do not think at a time like that. you have no actual control you just spew out words that may be offensive, but Riot just doesn't care do they? I said jk multiple times to try to reverse what I have said but NO
ooNerOoo (NA)
: I'm assuming you got punished with chat restrictions before, have you not? even if you haven't, you used hate speech. What did you expect to happen?
I have never got a chat restriction. my account is in good status and no issues in the past. A good system would give a warning prompt and a chat restriction to ensure players are careful in the future
: I'm not sure if you thought you'd get a different response from the community after your [previous thread](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/eaEp4XKw-one-game-14-day-ban), but lemme tell you, that's not gonna happen. The majority of your chat log was hard flaming, and these three lines in particular: > JulzFTW: %%%%%%ed ass shen > > JulzFTW: reatrded ass shen > > JulzFTW: braindead %%%% Are what bumped your punishment up to a 14-day ban from the gate. You should know better than to use hate speech like that. It doesn't matter if there's a player intentionally feeding on your team - nothing excuses flaming, and there's _absolutely_ nothing that can excuse your use of hate speech. > Riot games says " If this behaviour continues, your account will be permanently suspended." > This should have been a chat restriction with the warning of > " If this behaviour continues, your account will get a 14 day ban." So, should we also allow people to get just a chat restriction for racial slurs, homophobic slurs, and encouragements of self-harm? Because you used a disability-based slur, and that's right up there on the same list of offenses. And since Riot isn't about to go easy on people for using hate speech and encouraging self-harm, your instance of hate speech will remain punished in the same manner as the rest. 14-day ban, no questions. And if you think a 14-day ban is unfair, maybe next time, _don't flame_, and more specifically, **_DO NOT use hate speech._**
No use talking to this brick wall of a community anyways because clearly you are blinded by riot and their rules. Understand where i am coming from
ooNerOoo (NA)
: I actually got a 14-day suspension as my first offense, and I merely called my teammates monkeys, It was a false-true ban and got uplifted within a few days. This is well deserved, stop complaining, take a break and think about how next time you slip up, your account will be gone forever.
A 14 day suspension is way too long and unneeded.
Jo0o (NA)
: How do you know they weren't punished, or aren't pending a manual punishment? Inting takes longer to enforce than chat infractions.
Read everything over and think hard on how that is fair to a player with a good status and no issues in the past, no chat restrictions either. Unfair system
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=0003000100000001,timestamp=2018-12-20T22:29:02.905+0000) > > Riot Games should not skip directly to a 14 day ban > A step by step system should have been implemented to ensure the player is getting banned for a good reason and have got multiple reasons Such a system exists. Your repeated use of derogatory language is what resulted in the escalated punishment, as it is considered to be extreme behavior.
You are wrong This system clearly DOES NOT exist. If it did, after the game i would have got a prompt that stated what I did wrong, and we will go from there. That is a FAIR system that clearly tells the user what they did wrong and why and that they will be banned next time. Skipping to a 14 day ban is not even close to fair for a player who has had no issues in the past and a good status
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebicaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-20T22:10:53.524+0000) > > When you really think about it, just think hard for one, long, moment. I dont need to think about it mate. Y its sad this happent cause of a inter but again he used that as a excuus for what he said. > Do you REALLY think that anyone in the game was ACTUALLY offended by what he said? Again its not about me man. Its about what riot thinks. > I guarantee this is just another game of League for that person, Use something as hate speech or slurs is another game of league. I dont think so. > and everyone in the League community should be used to this by now. Used to what excactly ? > If they are actually offended by what JulzFTW said, Clearly sombody did you dont get punisht if nobody reports you. Clearly sombody was offendend other wise he dint would get punisht > then they are INCREDIBLY emotionally sensitive and probably should not be in this community imo. No somethings are just not okay. > I get that Riot wants their game to be positive, Do you really get it ? > but that will never happen as long as the game stays competitive. Why do riot Always have to do something selfcontrol is it that hard ? > Think about it realistically, no one gets offended by pointless nothings spewed online, Clearly sombody got offended. > and if you did, you dont belong in this community, So cause people got feelings and can get offended they dont belong here ? Your not the Judge a about thar. > and the toxicity is here to stay. This doesnt deserve a 14 day ban. OOOOh its derserved buddy the words he used are not excuus for what happent.
World Peace Plz realize what you are saying and review it properly because you keep saying the same points over and over. Look at what i said and think about it again. Unfair system
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebicaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-12-20T22:14:05.359+0000) > > Do you seriously think that anyone was ACTUALLY offended by what he said? Think about this realistically. I guarantee no one was actually offended, i talked about this previously. If you can't handle the damned heat, get out of the kitchen! That's a reasonable argument to make in a game without behavioral rules. The catch here is that League is an environment were players agree, when they sign up, to abide by the behavioral rules WHETHER OR NOT they're offending anyone. You do not have to play League but, if you do, you need to abide by League's rules. You may not like those rules, and you may feel the kitchen needs more heat, but when you have specifically agreed to keep heat below a certain level the responsibility lies with the party violating the rules, not the one who is bothered by the rule violation.
Riot Games should not skip directly to a 14 day ban A step by step system should have been implemented to ensure the player is getting banned for a good reason and have got multiple reasons
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-20T21:04:47.111+0000)...Before i start, please see from my point of view and do not skip to the "Your behaviour in this game deserves the 14 day ban", because to be honest, one game should not be able to judge a player into a 14 day ban. I think this is an unfair request to ask. Not that it's not fair to ask people to consider your point of view (dealing with an intentional feeder is an awful experience, and I understand it can be super frustrating), but because it says "before I start, agree with me that my ban is unfair." You're effectively demanding that we only read your thread if we agree to agree with you, as some of *do* believe one game of sufficiently bad behavior -- even though situations can be frustrating -- is worthy of serious punishment. I'm well aware that one game can cause someone to snap a bit, and there's leeway built in. When I see one or two lines of frustration -- even some insults -- I'm usually inclined to be sympathetic. In your chat log, however, you use misogynistic language as an insult, call other players shit, call them a rude term for mentally challenged, call them kids, and continue this behavior over the course of nearly all your time talking. This is not simply a small outburst you managed to control, but rather a large and rather severe one that violates multiple rules in rather egregious ways. I can't agree it's unfair to take strong action against that, as it's clearly more than a momentarily lapse in judgment.
I am not saying to agree with me, i am saying to see my point of view and see why i would be thinking this is unfair. In no place did I say AGREE WITH ME i simply am stating my opinion on how this is unfair. An outburst over the course of someone inting throughout the game should not be punished that hard. As i said, some things may have been clearly offensive, but when i realized my mistake i said i was joking.
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-20T21:29:30.491+0000) > > Read what i said at the end of the chat logs > Riot games says " If this behaviour continues, your account will be permanently suspended." > This should have been a chat restriction with the warning of > " If this behaviour continues, your account will get a 14 day ban." > > And remember I have never got a ban on this account before, nothing negative, just one game i got a mad. > I have never got a warning No read this https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ- There is a part that says why did i skip restrictions i advice you to read it very good.
So you're telling me, a person can say multiple offensive things in multiple different games and only get a CHAT RESTRICTION But when you say something offensive, which wasent super offensive, I get a 14 day ban Come on now
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-20T21:34:41.846+0000) > > With you guys, it is a brick wall. Understand the fact that a 14 day ban is WAY TOO MUCH for one game and behaviour in ONE GAME should not determine ANYTHING. Warnings should ALWAYS be implemented no matter what. My accoutn should not recieve a 14 day ban for this, just simply unfair. Srr buts its you who dont wanna understand. You broke THERE RULES we try to tell why you skipt restrictions. But you simply refuse to see it. How hard is it to understand it stand litterly in there rules that you skip right away to a 14 day ban without warning if you say something that falls under the 0 tolerance.
I did not say anything that could be worse than what others have said and they have only got a chat restriction. This is for a CHAT RESTRICTION "Accounts that show signs of persistent negative behavior are often first punished with chat restrictions. When this feature is active, you will have a limited number of chat messages you can send while in game. As you continue to play the duration of the match you will unlock additional chat messages that you can send. In order to completely remove Restricted Chat from your account, you will be required to play a specific number of matchmade games." Persistent negative behaviour = chat restriction Negative behaviour in one game = 14 day ban If this doesn't say enough, i honestly dont know what else to say. This is clearly unfair.
Kuro7 (NA)
: It was probably an offense that led straight to the 14 day ban then.
This is for a **_CHAT RESTRICTION_** "Accounts that show signs of persistent negative behavior are often first punished with chat restrictions. When this feature is active, you will have a limited number of chat messages you can send while in game. As you continue to play the duration of the match you will unlock additional chat messages that you can send. In order to completely remove Restricted Chat from your account, you will be required to play a specific number of matchmade games." Persistent negative behaviour = chat restriction Negative behaviour in one game = 14 day ban If this doesn't say enough, i honestly dont know what else to say. This is clearly unfair.
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-20T21:18:20.002+0000) > > Do you really think that is fair? > a 14 DAY BAN for one game. > I understand the things i said and that they should not have been said, but 14 days is way too extreme Its fair srr but derserved. Things as hate speech falls under ZT and are as first warning a 14 day ban. Next punishment is perma ban. And sombody els behavior is no excuus for yours.
With you guys, it is a brick wall. Understand the fact that a 14 day ban is WAY TOO MUCH for one game and behaviour in ONE GAME should not determine ANYTHING. Warnings should ALWAYS be implemented no matter what. My accoutn should not recieve a 14 day ban for this, just simply unfair.
Kuro7 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-20T21:18:20.002+0000) > > Do you really think that is fair? > a 14 DAY BAN for one game. > I understand the things i said and that they should not have been said, but 14 days is way too extreme It may have been from whether or not you have been chat restricted before, the punishment escalation, or hate speech + some other reportable offenses (which will go immediately to 14 day ban). Edit: Forgot to mention, the next offense, for whatever it is, will result in a perma ban due to the punishment escalation until it lowers. So do be careful not to commit another reportable offense for a while. I suggest doing /mute all if there is something that is tilting you in a game.
Read what i said at the end of the chat logs Riot games says " If this behaviour continues, your account will be permanently suspended." This should have been a chat restriction with the warning of " If this behaviour continues, your account will get a 14 day ban." And remember I have never got a ban on this account before, nothing negative, just one game i got a mad. I have never got a warning
Kuro7 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=JulzFTW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dRPTy2JA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-20T21:10:12.437+0000) > > Before reading the chat log, understand that there was A PLAYER INTING and i got mad in ONE game Context, the inting player, rarely matters b/c you need to be concerned w/ your own behavior and then report the inter after. And one game is enough to warrant a punishment. Like if I chose to int and go 0/15 in one game, I would deserve punishment.
Do you really think that is fair? a 14 DAY BAN for one game. I understand the things i said and that they should not have been said, but 14 days is way too extreme
: Post chat logs from game client please. That way it’s easier to see if you deserved it or not. Cheers!
Before reading the chat log, understand that there was A PLAYER INTING and i got mad in ONE game
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: JulzFTW: %%%%%%ed ass shen JulzFTW: dumbass motherfkr JulzFTW: no but ur nan had this d JulzFTW: shen youre actual ass JulzFTW: dumbass kid JulzFTW: shen you re actual shit JulzFTW: excuse for a good player JulzFTW: fkin ass kid JulzFTW: reatrded ass shen [All]JulzFTW: shut up [All]JulzFTW: braindead %%%% two uses of words that are %%%%%%% out (typically hate speech related ) straight hard flaming shen, called him %%%%%%ed which is also part of hate speech yea you really did earn this one.
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eaEp4XKw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-20T04:30:12.852+0000) > > JulzFTW: %%%%%%ed ass shen > JulzFTW: dumbass motherfkr > JulzFTW: no but ur nan had this d > JulzFTW: shen youre actual ass > JulzFTW: dumbass kid > JulzFTW: shen you re actual shit > JulzFTW: excuse for a good player > JulzFTW: fkin ass kid > > > JulzFTW: reatrded ass shen > [All]JulzFTW: shut up > [All]JulzFTW: braindead %%%% > > > two uses of words that are %%%%%%% out (typically hate speech related ) > > straight hard flaming shen, called him %%%%%%ed which is also part of hate speech > > yea you really did earn this one. So you honestly think over one game of flaming someone that was inting is a necessary 14 day ban? That’s ridiculous. I would understand a chat restriction with a warning, but immediately giving a 14 day ban is unfair
: Basically, anything that is readily interpreted as hate speech or death threats (including encouragement of self-harm) is zero tolerance and will result in an immediate escalation to a 14-day suspension.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=akIZklML,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-20T03:46:36.338+0000) > > Basically, anything that is readily interpreted as hate speech or death threats (including encouragement of self-harm) is zero tolerance and will result in an immediate escalation to a 14-day suspension. Never said any of that
: slurs and telling people to kill themselves are instant 14 day bans.
I did not tell anyone to kill themselves or any slurs
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