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: Personal Conversation - Ezreal and Lux
Sorry to burst your bubble, but earlier this year Lux received a VO update alongside Galio's rework. In the video linked below, you will see that she has a special interaction with Ezreal that confirms the contrary. Yeah, you could say that she's lying, but it's all we've got at this point. Perhaps you could link me the video that your friend sent you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtFrbd4Z_MI
: The most important question to ask Viktor
: We will see but I'm of the opinion they don't need to keep his ult or transformation to fulfil the warlock theme. He could always use Beatrice in a different manner and I thought that one way was really cool was the teased Talon comic a while back. They could keep other parts of his kit such as his dot and it doesn't have to be his transformation specifically. Gallo main theme was his anti magic, which they still kept. Maybe we will get more information on the roadmap coming this week.
Wait, it's coming this week? Where did you get this information? I digress, I personally believe that his transformation is far too iconic to let go in favor of his DoT.
Arakadia (NA)
: He doesn't need to be vastayan to keep the transformation. Right?
Not necessarily, but I really think it's unlikely that he's not.
: I mean the rioter did say it was intended for current Swain and considering they said they are reworking his kit from scratch and it's going to be a Galio level rework it could happen.
Well, considering the teaser image is obviously eluding to the preservation of the bird motif, I think it’s reasonable to assume that his powers will remain relatively the same. I’m fully aware that his kit will be rebuilt from the ground up, but his transformation is such an integral part of his kit that I don’t think they’ll be so willing to scrap it. Even in a rework as big as Galio’s, they still kept his AoE taunt.
: Thank you. The vastayan storyline is lame. All the animal species dont need to be connected, let them be independent.
But why, though? I don’t see a logical reason why they shouldn’t be connected. It honestly makes more sense if they are connected than not.
SatomiKun (EUW)
: Don't get me wrong, I think that Swain is going to have connections to the vastaya, simply because I think it is the most logical explanation for his powers. I am just pointing out that it isn't completely confirmed yet, it is still **possible** that they are going another route with him, since there were precedent cases and a Rioter stated that they are willing to remove the interaction with Rakan if it turns out to not be related to vastaya. And the argument that it was meant for old Eve and not the new applies to Swain as well. The Rakan interaction is aimed at **current** Swain, a Rioter stated that himself.
Oh, well why didn’t you say so? I completely understand your point of view and see no reason to keep arguing.
SatomiKun (EUW)
: The story he is talking about is not about Vayne, but the story in which Evelynn visited Zaun to get hired as an assassin and this story was teasing Camille. It was fairly new, but did get retconned with Eve's VGU.
That lore was meant for old Eve, not new Eve. Old Eve was an assassin, and new Eve is an actual demon. Which do you think it fits more? That story was released back during the Shadow Isles event that came with Yorick’s VGU. They weren’t even working on her at the time, so of course it got retconned. I don’t know why you people are being so adamant. It’s honestly harder to _not_ believe he has some sort of connections to the vastaya.
Arakadia (NA)
: At the time they made that quote (which was much farther before release), they were not working on Swain. Now that their working on him, its very likely he has some very heavy connections to Vastayans if he isn't one. However it really isn't confirmed and now that they've actually started solid work on him, it might be retconned.
You’re missing the point: I seriously doubt they would remove the whole bird-man transformation, so it doesn’t need to elude to him; it just needs to be carried over.
: I can't believe no one posted this yet. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/66jbqk/were_the_team_that_made_xayah_and_rakan_ask_us/dgj9m5p/ Rakan's line to Swain was a reference to original Swain, not an indication of future Swain, and it will get deleted if they feel that Vastayan is not the way to go.
You’re missing the point: I seriously doubt they would remove the whole bird-man transformation, so it doesn’t need to elude to him; it just needs to be carried over. The Rioter was probably just being cautious to try to keep the air of “anything can happen” that comes with a big update like this. I don’t know why you people are being so adamant; it’s not that hard to believe.
: But Reav3 then said that, depends on the direction of the VGU, the quote could be removed. At least I think it was Reav3 ('twas a Rioter though for sure).
I seriously doubt they would remove it, given the parallels with the vastayan species he has. I wrote a theory in this comment section that fully expresses my views on the situation. You should find it a few threads above this one. I don't want to copy and paste the whole thing here because it's kinda long. The Rioter that you saw was probably just being cautious and trying to create the appropriate air of "anything can happen" that comes with a large-scale rework like this.
: The Swain teaser image speculation.
THEORY TIME: So, it's been confirmed through Rakan's special interaction with Swain that he is at the very least partially vastayan. In a post made prior to Xayah and Rakan's release (Linked here: https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/vastaya-field-journal/ ), an explorer encountered a man with vastayan blood, but not enough to make him like the other chimeric creatures we've seen. However, with the vastayan blood he has, he is able to transform into a pig-man. I don't know about you, but this is awfully reminiscent of Swain's ability to turn into a bird-man. Even if it wasn't confirmed, one could easily draw the connections. However, if all this is true, then one could draw connections to two other possible suspects: Nidalee and Elise. We know from previous experience that The Black Rose, a secret organization headed by LeBlanc that is said to study dark magic and rule Noxus from the shadows, has ties to five champions: Leblanc, as mentioned before, Vladimir, Sion, and Elise and Swain. Sion was brought back using magic from the Shadow Isles, which of course was procured by Elise, while Vladimir and Elise still play unknown roles other than the fact that he practices hemomancy, and she of course is from the Shadow Isles which fits in with the whole dark magic thing mentioned earlier. I digress, it is referenced that Swain has called upon the assistance of The Black Rose before to help him get to where he is. Perhaps this is where he received the Vastayan blood. I say this because Elise, who quite possibly has vastayan blood, is also a member. Why could she not share with him the secrets by which he is able to gain such power? It is a known fact that Elise has acquired her powers from Vilemaw, a colossal spider monster that reside on the Shadow Isles. If this is true, it connects to something else mentioned in that post I linked. Humans fleeing from an event known only as The Great Void War came into contact with a tribe of intelligent shapeshifting creatures known as the Vastayashai'rei. Through their union, a race that would eventually be known as the vastaya was born (I use the term "union" because it is still unconfirmed _how_ exactly the vastaya were formed from the two peoples. They even make a point of saying so). Perhaps Vilemaw's gift of power to Elise is an example one such happening, and by extension, perhaps Vilemaw was a Vastayashai'rei living on the Blessed Isles before everything became corrupted and turned into that monstrosity after the fact. If she shared her knowledge with Swain, perhaps he struck a deal with Beatrice, who may in fact also be a Vastayashai'rei and also may have originated from the Shadow Isles or was otherwise exposed to its corruption. So... yeah. Kind of just building off of what we already know, but I thought I'd just throw that out there ;) Also, before anyone says anything, yes this could also mean something for Shyvana. In the Demacia lore update that accompanied Galio's release, it is revealed that Shyvana was born to a pair of dragon, but while still an egg, a human mage attempted to kill her by sapping the magic from her egg. Luckily, her mother caught the man and scared him off, but not before he has unknowingly infused her with his own mortal magic. Of course, we all know what happened after she hatched. This could mean that Dragons are a part of the Vastayashai'rei race. This could also prove that it doesn't have to be the Vastayashai'rei granting the human their power; it could also work the other way around. Once again, this all just speculation and anybody is free to debate it.
: No, Arakadia is indeed correct. The VO towards Swain is tentative and may not stay, just like the Eve lore they made last year to tide us over until the VGU. They removed that Eve lore now.
Even though Eve has not one, but two special interaction with Vayne that say, and I quote: > "Have I told you how your parents cried with their final breaths?" > "Don't worry, love. You'll join them soon." Once again, even if you discard the special interactions, the similarities as I stated later on are far too glaring to be ignored.
Arakadia (NA)
: No it is not confirmed. First of all those quotes may become out of date later if Riot does not continue with the idea Swain has vastayan connections. Second those quotes don't confirm he is a Vastayn. He could be Vastayan, or half vastayan, or got a transfusion, or stole some power, or be an alternate but similar creature, have confused rakan, etc.
They literally came out not even six months ago, so I seriously doubt it's going to get retconed. Also, I'm sorry if I gave off the impression that I believed that he was completely vastayan, because I don't. It is my firm belief that he either , as you said, is half vastayan or acquired vastayan blood through some yet unknown means. In a post made prior to Xayah and Rakan's release (Linked here: https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/vastaya-field-journal/ ), an explorer encountered a man with vastayan blood, but not enough to make him like the other chimeric creatures we've seen. However, with the vastayan blood he has, he is able to transform into a pig-man. I don't know about you, but this is awfully reminiscent of Swain's ability to turn into a bird-man. Even if it wasn't confirmed, one could easily draw the connections. Honestly, I find it harder to _not_ believe he's partially vastayan.
: i like to think swain is either vastayan/part vastayan, beatrice is a demon he sold his soul to in exchange for power, or he sold his soul to another demon like tahm kench who in turn gave him beatrice who is the source of his power
It was confirmed when Xayah and Rakan were released that Swain had Vastayan blood (look up on YouTube the videos Xayah Special Interactions and/or Rakan Special Interactions, a channel called Skin Spotlights created them, and in one or both of those, their VOs confirm it).
: Pls pls pls dont make Swain vastayan
Too late, it was confirmed when Xayah and Rakan were released (look up on YouTube the videos Xayah Special Interactions and/or Rakan Special Interactions, a channel called Skin Spotlights created them, and in one or both of those, their VOs confirm it).
: Still working on Freljord. It's got a lot of heavy hitters so It's tough scaling them to Yu-Gi-Oh standards.
Oh, okay, ty for the response {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
: Yu-Gi-Oh cards based on LoL Champions- Call of the Void Booster Pack
Aren't you forgetting something? *cough, cough,* FRELJORD *cough,cough*
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Reav3 (NA)
: She does not
Quick question: where does the cult mentioned in Vayne's lore come in? Did she amass them herself, or does she view them as Aurelion Sol views those who attempt to interpret him?
: New Viktor Skin! "Death Sworn Viktor"
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: 3200 is INSANE for the new steraks gage
Not that it has to do with anything, but you forgot something: it’s now melee-only. Again, it doesn’t really matter in terms of your argument, but I thought I’d just throw that out there ;)
: lorecheck hes a fish not a frog nice try you simple-minded plebian
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: My axolotls just wanna say hello n' stuff. Feel free to show off your pets as well!
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: Remember when Volibear was a cool dude that had visions and wanted to save his tribe and stuff instead of being a warmongering jerk god thing and pissed rivers or something according to Ornn?
> [{quoted}](name=2nd Chance,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tvAa29nY,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:50:32.355+0000) > > Remember when Volibear was a cool dude that had visions and wanted to save his tribe and stuff instead of being a warmongering jerk god thing and pissed rivers or something according to Ornn? Don’t count your chickens before they’ve hatched. Remember what happened with the Viktor lore rework.
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Necrozard (EUW)
: Illaoi still have 1 launch skin while some new champions already extra skins
Well, both Yorick and Cassiopeia have gotten skins recently, so I'd wager she's probably either next on the chopping block or pretty damn close. Also, Jhin has only received one skin that Riot had control of: Blood Moon. They had to make a release skin, so they created High Noon. Part of the reward for winning Worlds is choosing which champions get the esports skins for that year, and Bang wanted Jhin. Your point still stands, but I thought I'd mention it.
Majestic (NA)
: I just found this [EASTER EGG](https://imgur.com/xLHoOKk)
DO YOU HAVE EAGLE EYES OR SOMETHING HOW DID YOU NOTICE THAT
Blackspy48 (EUNE)
: he awnsered this already, next year maybe
Thanks for the assist! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 22
Any word on that fifth elemental drake we talked about a while back?
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 20
Any word on that fifth elemental drake we talked about a while back?
Razyelx (EUNE)
: The Most Favorite Champion of All Time [Voting Elimination] - QUARTERFINALS, Rengar vs Kindred
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: Evelynn Rework....RELEASE IT NOW
Well, from the way things are looking, and the fact that they confirmed she would be released after the Worlds patch (7.18) and before the preseason patch (7.22), that leaves a timeframe of 7.19 - 7.21. We know she won't be released in 7.19 since the 7.19 PBE cycle has been up for days now with no sign of her. So most likely, she will either be released in 7.20 or in 7.21. I'd personally bet 7.20, since they probably don't want to cut it so close to preseason. Again, just my reasoning, don't take it as gospel. If she IS being released in 7.20, we should see her champion reveal come up a patch in advance, meaning that we could be seeing it as soon as next week.
: What's Lee Sin's favorite game mode?
Uchuuuuu.... KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Don't be using that gif if you don't get this reference ;) )
Lyseth (NA)
: My stereotype? That vel players think they're good when all they do is press R and ks their whole team in a teamfight.
Yeah... can't say I'm not guilty of that ^_^"
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: tfw reksai ganks and u try to get the kill
Then she ks's you http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/daffy-duck-gif-13.gif
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: Evelynn Rework
Well, from the way things are looking, and the fact that they confirmed she would be released after the Worlds patch (7.18) before the preseason patch (7.22), that leaves a timeframe of 7.19 - 7.21. However, if she was being released in 7.19, we probably would've heard something already considering the 7.19 PBE cycle is about to be up. So most likely, she will either be released in 7.20 or in 7.21 (though I'd personally bet 7.20, since they probably don't want to cut it so close to preseason. Again, just my reasoning, don't take it as gospel).
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