: How To Deal With Toxic/Troll/Feeding Players in Ranked Solo/Duo Queue Silver/Bronze ELO?
> [{quoted}](name=IWontBackDown,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NcGsIgOM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-27T02:01:33.879+0000) > > This past month has been a never-ending siege of toxic/troll/feeding players in Ranked and I'm beyond sick and tired of it. > > No matter how many times I report these so-called teammates of mine at the end of the game, I keep getting more of the same game after game. > > If these people are going to pull this kind of stuff, why not just stick to normal games and let the serious players try and climb in Ranked? > > I've consistently made Silver every season and was Silver I at the start of the month closing in on finally getting Gold. That is, until I started getting toxic/troll/feeding players that would rather bm and feed instead of actual being self-aware of what is going on and try and win the game a different way. > > Now I'm hard-stuck Silver III/IV and don't see any chance of getting back up to Silver I/II with these toxic/troll/feeding players I keep getting. > > I've yet to see the benefit of adding the Iron Division to Ranked as I started at Bronze II at the start of the season and after the 10 provisional games, I started out at Silver IV. > > > Riot, > > I'd appreciate some feedback from you as I've been a player of this game since 2011. > > > Thanks! Its called ELO hell for a reason
: Before you declare something a failure you have to first define what the parameters of success are. If the goal is to create a perfectly balanced champion, that doesn't need any nerfs or buffs, then yes, it was a failure. But I would suspect that was never the goal.
> [{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XsM8jHxp,comment-id=0023,timestamp=2019-06-21T21:12:39.959+0000) > > Before you declare something a failure you have to first define what the parameters of success are. If the goal is to create a perfectly balanced champion, that doesn't need any nerfs or buffs, then yes, it was a failure. But I would suspect that was never the goal. Well with unbalanceable mechanics like "true stealth" Riot made Akali pretty much either broken or useless.... Im thinking it was just to sell KDA skins
YaraUwU (NA)
: Where the fuck is {{champion:39}} at then cause she gets banned every lcs game. And has been nerfed like 20 fucking times.
> [{quoted}](name=YaraUwU,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XsM8jHxp,comment-id=002c,timestamp=2019-06-22T03:28:02.660+0000) > > Where the fuck is {{champion:39}} at then cause she gets banned every lcs game. And has been nerfed like 20 fucking times. Not saying every other champion touched by Riot in the past year isnt broken AF lol... i ban that shit every game still
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T20:50:28.380+0000) > > Except like I said, you get mid priority with a gank... > > The only objective worth dedicating a support to help jungle with is Dragon, which is why Supp is on bot side to begin with You don't know what mid priority is, do you? You're halfway there, mid priority is also when mid is strong and have priority over rotations, meaning they can go to the river first to help the jungler in a skirmish, it's not just pushing the lane, it's also having the upper hand in order to roam without losing cs. It's not a hard concept
> [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T00:30:36.524+0000) > > You don't know what mid priority is, do you? You're halfway there, mid priority is also when mid is strong and have priority over rotations, meaning they can go to the river first to help the jungler in a skirmish, it's not just pushing the lane, it's also having the upper hand in order to roam without losing cs. It's not a hard concept And guess what makes mid strong with priority? A Gank. I guess that is too hard of a concept for you to grasp... but be sure to keep that unmerited condescending tone and have fun in Gold!
: i just wish the game would create two cameras. I get that bottom lane as it's called has 2 bushes a drakes and such, but the dynamics of the lane are not as important as the sightline of the camers. I would much rather have a reversed and inverted camera than to have the current isometic top down for both sides. though doing that without a game engine pre-set to handle such configuration would be mountainous amounts of micro adjustments.
> [{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YBP2h7oO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-20T21:02:54.727+0000) > > i just wish the game would create two cameras. I get that bottom lane as it's called has 2 bushes a drakes and such, but the dynamics of the lane are not as important as the sightline of the camers. I would much rather have a reversed and inverted camera than to have the current isometic top down for both sides. > > though doing that without a game engine pre-set to handle such configuration would be mountainous amounts of micro adjustments. And Riot is a small indy company, so fixing it is out of the question
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-21T07:37:46.651+0000) > > Because its not worth sacrificing bot lane. 1 gank could achieve the same pressure. Camping a lane as support is low IQ. Roaming is fine, but you dont need to stay Except that now you have priority in mid lane which means rotations to help the jungler at all times, adc can be extremely safe and get exp from under tower/gold since nearly all champions played bot can't kill anyone under tower before 1 item. Jungle can even help clear pressure bot lane, etc. Mid priority is in some cases more useful than hoping your adc is good enough to carry.
> [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T08:32:03.448+0000) > > Except that now you have priority in mid lane which means rotations to help the jungler at all times, adc can be extremely safe and get exp from under tower/gold since nearly all champions played bot can't kill anyone under tower before 1 item. Jungle can even help clear pressure bot lane, etc. Mid priority is in some cases more useful than hoping your adc is good enough to carry. Except like I said, you get mid priority with a gank... The only objective worth dedicating a support to help jungle with is Dragon, which is why Supp is on bot side to begin with
: New Big Brain strat, 1000% never done before, OP, Nerf Please riot
> [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-21T13:38:44.964+0000) > > Check this shit out, 5 Simple Steps to win every game with this new strat > > Step 1. Queue support > > Step 2. Pick Yasuo > > Step 3. Leave your adc and go mid > > Step 4. Max windwall and get cdr items, and just spam it on cd midlane > > Step 5. Win every game because you got your midlaner "ahead" > > > And if your teammates complain, just tell them that you are helping build up their Mental, and you are challenging the META OMG why did I never think of that?!?! Mid laners, think about how easy it would be to get ahead if you had that many windwalls on your side! The other Mid laner would be soooo tilted! How can I lose?!?!?
: Sona, Janna, Lulu have had more nerfs, so based on your logic, rework when? Unless of course you’re going retroactively to attach some arbitrary period of time so you can always be “right” Also you must be real fucking new if you think a) old Akali was healthy and b) old Akali wasn’t bitched about/constantly called a ball of stats.
> [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XsM8jHxp,comment-id=0022,timestamp=2019-06-21T20:36:08.263+0000) > > Sona, Janna, Lulu have had more nerfs, so based on your logic, rework when? > > Unless of course you’re going retroactively to attach some arbitrary period of time so you can always be “right” > > Also you must be real fucking new if you think a) old Akali was healthy and b) old Akali wasn’t bitched about/constantly called a ball of stats. Yes that one, I'm always right
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XsM8jHxp,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-21T07:47:00.419+0000) > > > Keep in mind nobody was complaining about the old akali. HA HA HA HA I'm so done
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XsM8jHxp,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-21T10:42:41.150+0000) > > HA > HA > HA > HA > > I'm so done Akali was very rarely banned, then rework = permaban for half a year So yea... technically people in League are complaining about everything, but it wasnt relevant
Rioter Comments
LP Blaze (NA)
: Akali Quote and Matchmaking
> [{quoted}](name=LP Blaze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q9XpJVoe,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-28T02:56:25.958+0000) > > Can we all just take a moment to remember the Akali line: "So many noobs. Will matchmaking ever find true balance?" > Even AKALI, a champion RIOT created realizes that matchmaking isn't balanced, and yet riot still hasn't really fixed matchmaking XD > I know they're trying but it's taking too long. I miss the old Akali :(
Akaash (NA)
: Uhhhh, using fixed camera is a skill related issue. Red side has a massive advantage in bot lane. Caitlin traps are bonkers when you can put them under the tower and perpendicular to minions.
> [{quoted}](name=Akaash,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YBP2h7oO,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-21T01:20:46.342+0000) > > Uhhhh, using fixed camera is a skill related issue. > > Red side has a massive advantage in bot lane. Caitlin traps are bonkers when you can put them under the tower and perpendicular to minions. Caitlin traps are not a "massive advantage". being able to see half your screen is
Ornn (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T00:04:21.801+0000) > > Is that why everyone that plays with him seems to be complaining and trying to report? even know they win??????
> [{quoted}](name=Ornn,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T07:37:36.510+0000) > > even know they win?????? They win some, but thats a testament to how bad the diceroll matchmaking is to begin with, not a testament to some troll teemo mid nonsense
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-20T23:47:08.741+0000) > > You are missing an important factor: XP > > As a solo laner you don't want to trade a small amount of teemo harass to be perpetually down in XP against your opponent. What does it matter if you're gonna be ahead in gold and pressure?
> [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T03:55:45.567+0000) > > What does it matter if you're gonna be ahead in gold and pressure? Because its not worth sacrificing bot lane. 1 gank could achieve the same pressure. Camping a lane as support is low IQ. Roaming is fine, but you dont need to stay
CMriss (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-20T23:47:08.741+0000) > > You are missing an important factor: XP > > As a solo laner you don't want to trade a small amount of teemo harass to be perpetually down in XP against your opponent. And you are missing another point, you can't 2vs1 mid with exp lead and no gold..
> [{quoted}](name=CMriss,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-06-21T04:53:37.888+0000) > > And you are missing another point, you can't 2vs1 mid with exp lead and no gold.. You are missing the ultimate point... Youre expecting BOT LANE TO DO JUST THAT
C104k (NA)
: League Of Surrendering ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻
I disagree. Since Matchmaking has become so poor, it takes 100+ or 1000+ games of mind-numbing grinding to get rank to reflect skill, so people just want to move on. I despise players like you that hold lobbies hostage. Most players refusing to FF are also the reason the game is lost anyway, their lack of knowledge translates into both losing early, and not seeing when the game is over.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-20T23:47:08.741+0000) > > You are missing an important factor: XP > > As a solo laner you don't want to trade a small amount of teemo harass to be perpetually down in XP against your opponent. Sorry bu7t down one level and up 50 cs is actually still good.
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=T4bhhsK9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T23:50:18.459+0000) > > Sorry bu7t down one level and up 50 cs is actually still good. Is that why everyone that plays with him seems to be complaining and trying to report?
AWice (NA)
: Facts about NB3/Nubrac not usually discussed
You are missing an important factor: XP As a solo laner you don't want to trade a small amount of teemo harass to be perpetually down in XP against your opponent.
: > [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YBP2h7oO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-20T22:11:11.157+0000) > > Stop trying to play with a locked camera. Riot actually locks it in the tutorial, with no way to turn it off. So there's that. LOL When Riot teaches you to play the game, they teach it to you locked.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesus is Savior,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YBP2h7oO,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-20T22:21:57.127+0000) > > Riot actually locks it in the tutorial, with no way to turn it off. So there's that. LOL > > When Riot teaches you to play the game, they teach it to you locked. Its bad without it locked too, there is simply not enough screen especially if you are a long range champ
: Can We Address Red-Side Bot-Lane Camera Disadvantage (2nd Turret)
There is an offset option but it doesn't really do much. I just want the option to see more of the map at once, not sure why we can stretch horizontally with ultrawide, but not vertically (where we actually need to see more)
Rioter Comments
Morbys (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZGk4yrnd,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-17T04:50:57.019+0000) > > Im so sick of you lynch mob "outrage" police. STFU > > Who cares. Get a hobby. Obsessing over other people and their punishments for things that arent really that bad to begin with... its a sick joke. get over yourself. Spoken like a true sheep, try to critically think why people are angry before posting kid. The reason there is such outrage is because people get banned for lesser BS, and NB3 is straight verbally abusing, and harassing people in game and on stream. How are you going to have rules if you aren't going to enforce them equally.
> [{quoted}](name=Morbys,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZGk4yrnd,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T11:17:03.214+0000) > > Spoken like a true sheep, try to critically think why people are angry before posting kid. The reason there is such outrage is because people get banned for lesser BS, and NB3 is straight verbally abusing, and harassing people in game and on stream. How are you going to have rules if you aren't going to enforce them equally. **Things I care about:** 1 - trolls ruining games in League. It shouldnt happen, get them the fuck out **Things I don't care about: ** 1- P____ies (feline cat... I have to censor it because of P____ies and moderation) thinking mean words are "verbal abuse" or "harrassment" Edit: God help us if we ever have WW3... the Russians/Chicoms will just shout insults over a megaphone and the entire generation of blue-haired obese bernie bots will collapse into a crying shaking groveling mess
: I'm not offended, I'm just not inviting you to any parties. Fun people only
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W3VEIY6g,comment-id=00090000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:08:13.884+0000) > > I'm not offended, I'm just not inviting you to any parties. Fun people only Of all the places I would want to get party invites from, the League Forums is ranking near bottom, my guy
Yol (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZGk4yrnd,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-17T04:50:57.019+0000) > > Im so sick of you lynch mob "outrage" police. STFU > > Who cares. Get a hobby. Obsessing over other people and their punishments for things that arent really that bad to begin with... its a sick joke. get over yourself. 2019, where liberals have lost their mind entirely and want people who don't fall in line with their peter puffing behavior standard, removed from society entirely. welcome to the clown world
> [{quoted}](name=Yol,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZGk4yrnd,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T14:08:22.069+0000) > > 2019, where liberals have lost their mind entirely and want people who don't fall in line with their peter puffing behavior standard, removed from society entirely. > > welcome to the clown world Honk Honk
Anatera (NA)
: Dodge skillshot
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mbfFrez4,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-20T16:40:37.755+0000) > > Just kidding. Hits a minion, ludens, comet, liandry's. Quarter health gone. Gosh, why isn't this game fun anymore? Lol... or a teammate gets hit during ARAM mode and you get splashed
: Fix your matchmaking
its because they ban half the players for saying "mean words" so they all make smurf accounts to booty slap you. Blame riot.
: "Unapologetic" What? Should he be sorry that he got someone who was TROLLING banned?
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZGk4yrnd,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-17T03:58:24.655+0000) > > "Unapologetic" > > What? Should he be sorry that he got someone who was TROLLING banned? amen
: Nightblue3 just started streaming League and is unpunished and unapologetic for his behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=Yordle Gunner,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZGk4yrnd,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-16T23:27:55.119+0000) > > "IDIOTS WILL GET 2 WEEK VACATION :)" This is in the title of Nightblue3 right now. He is streaming on his account which is still unpunished. Riot, is this behavior okay with you? Do you defend what he is doing. > Why is his account not suspended and or banned yet. He has FAR past met Riots rules to be punished where is it!? He WILL do this same stuff over and OVER again because he is toxic. Riot. What are you doing about this? Stop making the community hold these people accountable, You should be doing that. Im so sick of you lynch mob "outrage" police. STFU Who cares. Get a hobby. Obsessing over other people and their punishments for things that arent really that bad to begin with... its a sick joke. get over yourself.
: Power cuts out, I reconnect after 8 minutes, help team win a 35 minute long game... lose LP anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=AleishaBreasts,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=G8Xf7pLf,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-16T18:13:06.513+0000) > > This is such a stupid system. > Why should I even bother reconnecting? > Other than simply being a nice person? I may as well just go take a shit or eat some lunch and save myself some time and let my team lose a 4 v 5. > > Not only did I lose LP but I lost more LP than I usually lose! I usually lose 16 LP and I lost 20 this game. I was AFK for 8 minutes and came back and still was one of the top damages in the game. > > I'm actually dumbfounded at how fucking stupid the afk system is. IMO if you afk 8 minutes you deserve to lose LP and a lot more for that matter. I get it, power outages and such... but those complaints can be forwarded to the power company or internet company you pick. If you queue up for ranked its under the assumption you wont be a liability to the 4 teammates... and even if you are unlucky, it should only happen once right? Yet AFKs ruin games for a lot of people... so zero tolerance is a good policy. Take the LP hit, you didnt get banned so blame your power provider not riot. EDIT: Also, what does that say about the matchmaking that you can have a 4v5 win a game... lmao
: Riot you spelled "Dimension" Wrong for Mord's R
damn the roasts in these comments are savage af
: Sounds not very fun
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W3VEIY6g,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T20:47:23.186+0000) > > Sounds not very fun Whats fun about being filtered and censored and PC 24/7? Seriously games are a way to escape the boring life... I don't get kids like you... its a video game its not real life... its fake, its funny, its ridiculous. Enjoy it. Stop looking for ways to be offended and a victim
: But not parties right
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W3VEIY6g,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:19:41.906+0000) > > But not parties right No bruh I totally talk about fucking league of legends and matchmaking at parties just like here {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Rioter Comments
: Lol I know right, people are so thin skinned now days everything “Triggers” them lol. “You don’t agree with me, you have a different opinion, you defended yourself while I was flaming you, you gave me corrective criticism for my good and the teams good, or heaven help us you told me the truth! I’m reporting you, you must be a toxic prick, why can’t you just be mature and nice or just not respond!” We live in such a sensitive, egotistical, narcissistic, self absorbed generation now that lacks self awareness and doesn’t want any consequences for their actions. The only thing we can do is adapt by laughing at these people and ignoring them.
> [{quoted}](name=TheHolyKnightX,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kEW8OXlt,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-06-13T20:53:47.542+0000) > > Lol I know right, people are so thin skinned now days everything “Triggers” them lol. “You don’t agree with me, you have a different opinion, you defended yourself while I was flaming you, you gave me corrective criticism for my good and the teams good, or heaven help us you told me the truth! I’m reporting you, you must be a toxic prick, why can’t you just be mature and nice or just not respond!” We live in such a sensitive, egotistical, narcissistic, self absorbed generation now that lacks self awareness and doesn’t want any consequences for their actions. The only thing we can do is adapt by laughing at these people and ignoring them. I do laugh and ignore them, except the problem is they do everything they can to censor/ban/punish anyone that exposes them to reality. Political/Generational Commentary: You are right, they don't want consequences for their actions. They want participation trophies. Politically they want free healthcare, free college, and open borders in a nation 21 trillion in debt. Its nonsensical, but they can't be bothered to learn about reality when their entire worldview is about escaping reality to a magical fantasy land where there are 69 genders and everything should be free. #HotTake
: I bet you're fun at parties
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W3VEIY6g,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-06-14T18:15:21.761+0000) > > I bet you're fun at parties Im fun on your team, because it increases your chances of winning.
: Riot under investigation?
> [{quoted}](name=Rebel 986,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vrmBjMNv,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-13T13:32:49.321+0000) > > They not paying enough to female workers i guess? The wage gap is a BS, so are affirmative action quotas. I've never understood this regressive position of "We need more (*insert minority*) in (*insert job*) The goal is equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. When you push for quotas that will just add a stigma that they dont deserve the position. BTW, men create new companies at over double the rate of women.... that is why there are more male CEOs, in addition to men having more extreme outliers in every bellcurve distribution study ever done (IQ, psychology, whatever). The entire "diversity" push has become an absolute equality of outcome cancer that infests every corporation.
: What is your honor level, and how did you get there?
Honor level 0 and proud. I play League to win. I signed up for a competitive 5v5, not to be a therapist/mentor/tutor/father to some degenerate low-IQ trolls... if Riot matches me with a liability I will calmly explain why they are bad. Sometimes that is fine, sometimes it triggers a report. About often enough to sink the honor. Its worth it though. The entire system is garbage tbh. Riot wont stop feeders/inters/afkers/trolls but if you say one mean word in response, SHAME ON YOU!
Rioter Comments
: well-known yet no proof of it other then *but it exist!! also a lot of youtubers who do iron to diamond never faced such a thing, and not to forget how does riot read minds of players to match them with those who have win or lose streak?
> [{quoted}](name=hrooza dota ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RpKds2m2,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T07:27:47.743+0000) > > well-known > > yet no proof of it other then *but it exist!! > > also a lot of youtubers who do iron to diamond never faced such a thing, and not to forget how does riot read minds of players to match them with those who have win or lose streak? People love to reference challenger players 1v9ing, as if that is even remotely relevant to the experience of a normal player just trying to get into silver or gold. Win streak punishment, or the phenomena of teammates getting worse and worse the more you win, is reality.
: Riot ruining games intentionally?
There is a well-known system of win streaks being punished by Riot. If you are on a win streak, You wont find yourself losing a close competitive game, you will find teammates inting and auto-losing the game before you even get your first item. Naysayers will claim there is no such thing, but anyone who actually plays iron through plat and makes the climb top to bottom knows the truth.
: All the draconian bans for the slightest offense happened. Then everyone rerolled accounts (me included) and just played lower level games.
> [{quoted}](name=WastedHooker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=157ctBEA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-11T05:08:22.412+0000) > > All the draconian bans for the slightest offense happened. Then everyone rerolled accounts (me included) and just played lower level games. I'm sure Riot makes a killing off 2nd/3rd/4th account addicts getting their bans mained and reclimbing on new ones.... but that also destroys new player experience and low ELO games completely.
: Riot will not do anything about it and just say they're "always looking to improve". To them, faster queue times is more important than fairer matches.
> [{quoted}](name=KnKitsune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wZI7l0Oa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-10T23:06:16.252+0000) > > Riot will not do anything about it and just say they're "always looking to improve". > > To them, faster queue times is more important than fairer matches. I've never understood why they insist on using autofill to shorten queue times, when the number one cause of long queue times is people dodging due to autofill (or otherwise bad matchmaking where op.gg tells you to run for it). Anecdotally, anyone I ask says they would prefer to wait longer if they knew they would get to play what they wanted in a fair game...
: Never thought I'd say this, but in the two or more years I been on the boards, this is the most intelligent post I have ever seen. I however, strongly disagree that match making is to blame. This whole bad match making thing is just the latest in series of echos I've seen on these boards throughout the years. Someone started it and all those feeding Bronzie shitheads adopted it as the latest fad in explaining whey they are not Diamond. A couple years ago, it was Dynamic Queue. Next year, it will be something else. Don't believe me? OP.GG everyone that makes these "bad match making" threads. 90% of them are in low elo with more than half of them being low Bronze. You might be a rare exception having finished Plat 2 last season. Nonetheless, everything you said about the attitude and trends in lost games is spot on. The real problem with the game is not bad match making. It's snowballing. The same players that go 17-0 one game will go 0-17 vs the same opponents the next game if the early lane phase plays out differently.
> [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wZI7l0Oa,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-09T23:52:15.036+0000) > > Never thought I'd say this, but in the two or more years I been on the boards, this is the most intelligent post I have ever seen. > > I however, strongly disagree that match making is to blame. This whole bad match making thing is just the latest in series of echos I've seen on these boards throughout the years. Someone started it and all those feeding Bronzie shitheads adopted it as the latest fad in explaining whey they are not Diamond. A couple years ago, it was Dynamic Queue. Next year, it will be something else. Don't believe me? OP.GG everyone that makes these "bad match making" threads. 90% of them are in low elo with more than half of them being low Bronze. You might be a rare exception having finished Plat 2 last season. > > Nonetheless, everything you said about the attitude and trends in lost games is spot on. > > The real problem with the game is not bad match making. It's snowballing. The same players that go 17-0 one game will go 0-17 vs the same opponents the next game if the early lane phase plays out differently. The matchmaking being bad isn't a valid excuse for hard-stuck bronze players I agree. But I still think the matchmaking is far too grind-dependent, and it has become more of a measure of patience and time-wasted rather than individual skill. But if a gold-level player gets in silver and is complaining its taking forever to get out... I completely agree with that complaint. If I am ranking up accounts and they place in Silver, its almost not worth rolling dice for a week to get them out... just because in lower ELOs there are complete newbies, diamond smurfs, and average players all suffering in chaotic unfair matches where chances are, you cant determine the outcome in most games. Sure you can grind out eventually but those games tend to be too frustrating to the point where it isn't fun... something about Silver where everyone is generally "bad" yet has an ego at the sametime, it makes no sense to me. Regarding snowballing, I attribute the fact a player is "17-0" to the machmaking... I honestly don't buy the notion that if you swapped first bloods, the "0-17" player would suddenly go 17-0 against the same opponent, just because I think players capable of going 17-0 can play around a losing lane without feeding. That goes back to my other point though... in lower ELOs players dont know how to play safe and farm without feeding, and that makes the matches really stupid when one liability like that can be an auto-loss for 4 other people.
: you wont lose account over afk
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=1LhKG6zg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-11T00:35:56.768+0000) > > you wont lose account over afk Yes you can, if people report enough
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Kai Guy (NA)
: My opinion is that Player behavior systems need the most work. Trolls, inters, half ass players on their off roles and/or any variation of the people who que for ranked and don't fucking try to win? Yea.... that's not gonna be fixed by MM as effectively as a Player behavior system.
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wZI7l0Oa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-09T07:41:45.143+0000) > > My opinion is that Player behavior systems need the most work. Trolls, inters, half ass players on their off roles and/or any variation of the people who que for ranked and don't fucking try to win? > > Yea.... that's not gonna be fixed by MM as effectively as a Player behavior system. To play devil's advocate and state an unpopular opinion... I think most of that behavior happens when players view the game was already lost, and they just want the FF to go through (atleast in my experience). Meaning the unfair matchmaking creates most of the behavior issues. Especially in low ELO, if every lane except mine is losing pretty hard AND the other team has late game comp... I would prefer to cut my losses and roll the teammate dice again. In this event, if my team doesn't FF, rather than get dumpstered in a teamfight 3 times in a row "trying" to win the unwinnable, I will just afk farm and say "go next plz" repeatedly in chat. I'm sure in this scenario, a player on my team would view me as a troll... but that is likely because in low ELO they don't understand that a team of better players up 8000 gold with all dragons with {{champion:24}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:31}}{{champion:29}} is not going to lose. This is just what I run into, I'm not claiming anyone here is representative of the hypothetical teammate I'm critiquing. The difficult part about this scenario is explaining to the player that I actually wanted to win just as badly, arguably more since I did my job better, than they did. However the reason they lost their lane is the same reason they don't know the game is over, its just a general low-ELO lack of awareness... they perceive others as "giving up" or "trolling" when frankly they should be apologizing for losing the game, and let the rest of the players try their luck for a better team.
YaraUwU (NA)
: Just a quick thought for anyone that thinks Qiyana is the dullest champion to date. Kai'sa exists.
nobody gives a fuck about the "lore" besides a handful of you forum boys... it is irrelevant. Now the fact its ANOTHER high mobility assasin, that is a fucking YIKES from me. Another must-ban... thx rito
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CytheGuy (NA)
: Because that's EXACTLY what I wanted to hear /s
: The worst player has more impact than the best
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