TitanAnteus (NA)
: There's no way to make everyone happy. Either the game's a team effort, or individual skill can carry games. I prefer it as a team effort with some individual skill expression. Even if enemy Rengar is 20/3/3, I don't think the team should win if he's the only one getting kills.
Karunamon (NA)
in > If this is right so i can say good bye league of legends <3
It really doesn't need to be either/or. The fact that one person can lose you the game but one person can't win (barring rare high level smurfing like your example) has had some fixes directed at it, just not enough basically. Someone being crap at the game currently has a lot more influence on the result than the 1/10th influence they're supposed to have by the numbers.
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Quiet Dude (NA)
: {{champion:17}} - 'sup
Karunamon (NA)
in > Champion's that miss half of their offensive kit should not be able to kill you
Teemo doesn't really have a "miss" though, with the possible exception of chucking a shroom at you mid-battle. Q is a point and click, W is a MS steroid, E is a damage passive. And if you step on a shroom, you either failed to ward/sweep or just got outplayed.
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Jo0o (NA)
: Even if it is, that's hardly a result of their behavioral system. Gamers are a mercurial bunch, and lots of gaming fads have emerged in recent years. Hero shooters, battle royales, new MMOs, etc. New genres will always take some players away from established games, either temporarily or permanently. I can attest personally that the group of my friends who originally got me into League have all jumped ship to Overwatch, Fortnite, and HotS for a time, but all of them routinely come back to League. Plus, League is/was the biggest game ever. It can afford to shed a few million players and still be massive.
Karunamon (NA)
in > The Riot Perma Ban System
Literally half the players could quit playing tomorrow and Leauge will still be the biggest game in the world many times over.
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Salisburyyy (NA)
: But they don't have a playerbase of 100 million. It's been shown that it's in the upper 60-million.
Karunamon (NA)
in > The Riot Perma Ban System
Shown where and when? Link your information dude.
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Salisburyyy (NA)
: What I'm saying is, is that Riot cares so much more about verbal communication as opposed to griefing, inting, and afking. Unfortunately I don't have access to what the other person said for a comparison :/
Karunamon (NA)
in > The Riot Perma Ban System
Not quite. What it boils down to is that detecting bad chat will always be more accurate than detecting intentionally bad gameplay.
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Xendrius Smurf1 (EUW)
: Wrote "not bad", system Assumed I called someone bad, got permad again and swatted 3 hours later.
Karunamon (NA)
in > To recently unperma'd players - how are you doing with your account?
Fake news.
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Iluvatar00 (NA)
: Clearly my comment went over your head. Ignorance is a perfect example of why It’s easy for Riot to get away with it.... You can report someone basically any game if you want. The “negative comments” option is there precisely for that. Think of all the non hostile negative comments you can make about the game. If someone reports it then you get punished. And it only takes a few punishments before a permaban. Perhaps there needs to be more tiers before the permaban, but that would mean less banned accounts which takes us once again back to my previous comment. I just thought I would bring this detail to light for those individuals who like to play with their chat on. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Karunamon (NA)
in > "Player behavior" is more a meme than this meme section
If you're making negative comments in the chatbox that are not intended to help your team win, then yes, you deserve your ban. Pretty simple logic here my dude.
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I Yuke I (NA)
: Dunno, i was called all kinds of things yesterday in multiple games. Things like ape, retard , uninstall and don't play ranked were the kinder things said. On the other hand, I got a chat restriction for saying "jgler don't prioritize wraiths when we are fighting next to red, disengage and join the fight next time"
Karunamon (NA)
in > 5 Days Without Encountering Flame
>On the other hand, I got a chat restriction for saying > >"jgler don't prioritize wraiths when we are fighting next to red, disengage and join the fight next time" https://media.giphy.com/media/EouEzI5bBR8uk/giphy.gif
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Laughing Fish (NA)
: Sometimes I just like to pop some popcorn, get nice and cozy, and enjoy a nice cup of PB's tears https://i.imgur.com/1zgACnY.png[/img]
Karunamon (NA)
in > "Player behavior" is more a meme than this meme section
After playing a really rough/toxic game, I go to that board to de-stress. It's nice to see the system working even though my reports never seem to go anywhere. (holy freaking crap the fish is back)
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Triumphant Elite (NA)
: Some of them are legitimate! Some of them really don't make sense, I've seen it with my own two eyes and I've been on the other end of it. And I love how you circlejerkers LOOOOOOVE to diss a board section calling it meaningless and useless But when your section gets called out "OMG WTF RIOT WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN THESE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS" so shut the hell up the majority of you guys only exist to jerk riot off somebody could get banned for saying bless you and you fuckers would say "ooohhh riot knows best you got banned for a reason go cry about it" This is why I don't respect this community
Karunamon (NA)
in > "Player behavior" is more a meme than this meme section
>Some of them are legitimate! One in every hundred. Maybe.
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JAYCCCCCCCCCCCCE (NA)
: Why is banning for toxicity even a thing tho? You can literally mute people in-game, I have never had a problem with kids flaming when I can mute them. But when someone goes 2/12 30+ games in a row without getting punishments, whats up with that?
Karunamon (NA)
in > "Player behavior" is more a meme than this meme section
>Why is banning for toxicity even a thing tho? You can literally mute people in-game Because muting is reactive. By the time you mute someone, they're already tilting you and probably other people on your team. The goal, the rule, is not to have that happen in the first place.
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Iluvatar00 (NA)
: The whole player behavior system is just another scheme to drain users of money. It provides perfect justification to ban accounts users have invested time and money in. No backlash for riot because they keep your money, and most likely expect an individual so loyal to their product to make another account and begin investing again. A genius idea to continuously revamp the potential market.
Karunamon (NA)
in > "Player behavior" is more a meme than this meme section
>The whole player behavior system is just another scheme to drain users of money. You mean a system that's trivially evaded by way of, say, not telling other people to kill themselves?
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BestPudgeNA (NA)
: Let's prove how OP damage is by using the champ that has the kit of a midlane mage but gets played support because he has insane base damage and no scaling. Let's also be "lucky" too have heal and him not be "lucky" too have ignite. Let's also not take resolve secondary because fucking reasons.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Meddler addresses high damage, doesn't understand what the community is saying
>has insane base damage Hmm...
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remakoro (EUNE)
: There was an option to report "unskilled player" and it was there for a good reason it seems. Sad that they removed it.
Karunamon (NA)
in > A rant on intentionally feeding. PSA: SUCKING DOES NOT EQUAL INTING
As I understand it, that option was partly to calibrate the MMR system. It also probably siphoned off a number of bogus inting reports.
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PhoebusRevenio (NA)
: Elo and MMR are two completely different things. Don't confuse the two. League of legends doesn't have Elo anymore.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Season 9: get rid of promos
MMR is just Elo with extra steps
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invisiblecat1 (NA)
: Please realize that without Promo games League will be reverted back to its elo system, which is a lot more luck based This will remove the demotion and promotion barrier, allowing you to climb ranks easier if you win, but also drop ranks a LOT faster if you get unlucky with teammates So this means that playing at the end of the season is super risky, because you could just go on a random losing streak and drop multiple ranks Trust me, the promo system is better
Karunamon (NA)
in > Season 9: get rid of promos
Not really. What you're forgetting is that Elo (MMR) is actually what's used for matchmaking. It's the thing that's actually representative of your skill. League and tier is literally meaningless. The games you play are influenced by your MMR which for some reason you're not allowed to see.
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disregardable (NA)
: So let's review here. You ruined someone's fun for no reason. You engaged negatively with your teammates in chat. And you expect us to sympathize with you, as if you didn't deserve a report.
Karunamon (NA)
in > "You banned my champ, so I throw the match = You Trolling"
Yeah, this. Banning someone's hover is not against any rules, but it is absolutely a dick move.
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bbQsauçe (EUW)
: ***
Karunamon (NA)
in > I'm a man of reason. Here's what I think ACTUALLY needs to be dealt with in the game rn.
"Landing your abilities on the target" in many cases amounts to "right clicking".
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chipndip1 (NA)
: You guys realize that Zoe can't 1-shot you if you build MR, right? And that we have *2 spell shield items and 2 cleansing items in the game, right?*
Karunamon (NA)
in > "A fight loses its excitement if the first punch wins," Riot 2014.
You realize that Zoe can 1-shot you (well, 2-shot, but it's not like you can do anything asleep or get very far before it lands) before you have a chance to even buy any items?
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The Djinn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=disregardable,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yTXpV9tB,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-07-09T21:09:56.377+0000) > > but why wouldn&#x27;t their honor go down if they&#x27;re that close to a punishment? :/ Because the systems aren't actually connected like that. If you insult players in every game, you could still end up with 5 honors from your team, even if the enemy team reports you. The odds of it happening are great, but it is possible. In effect, all the honor system does it show how many players have honored you. It doesn't really take behavior into consideration.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Question: Why do people believe that honor is (or should be ) a punishment shield?
Doesn't that strike you as a bit unintuitive? If you've got one system telling you you're super honorable, getting regular drops, all the way up to honor 5, and so forth, it violates the principle of least astonishment to get a non-hate-speech-related punishment. The systems might not be connected in the game design, but they are absolutely connected as concepts.
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9x this scripter (NA)
: ***
Karunamon (NA)
in > I got a 14 day ban for the same game i was chat restricted for
Gee, I wonder why you ever would have gotten a ban. Go away.
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Bijeesny (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TGTEg0kY,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-27T21:52:51.418+0000) > > I wonder this myself. Full CSGO matches can go for equally as long as a league match. But they don't review the whole match, only a part where some1 started to cheat/grief. It could be tweaked for League tho, either introduce reporting while in the match, or the feature to put a timestamp when trolling happened.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Can we actually start punishing trolls/afkers/soft inters?
As I see it there are only two ways to gameplay grief.. either intentionally dying, or stealing stuff from the jungler while they're trying to take it. Highlighting deaths, highlighting monster kills while the jungler is in close proximity automatically wouldn't be too hard. As would showing team chat. I'm gonna make a thread about this but it probably isn't going to go too far.
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Boxx of Coxx (EUNE)
: Sorry for the bluntness, but have you found anything out, Karunamon senpai?
Karunamon (NA)
in > HOW TO: Unbind your enter key to prevent inadvertent toxicity
Yeah; someone replied back and said that it only worked for them when the game wasn't in fullscreen.. which kinda makes sense. Change the text to read "League of Legends (TM) Client" and try running the game in either windowed or borderless. There's also an alternate version up in the OP that just unconditionally turns off enter, which should absolutely work regardless of window shenanigans, but will be a bit more annoying (enter won't work anywhere while Hammerspoon is open)
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Terozu (NA)
: Actually i sent a request, they didnt charge. I still have to wait 30 days.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Fake reports???
Yeah, the old privacy page where you'd do this now links to a support page.
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ScruffyTusks (NA)
: Yeah. And I've learned that now. Muting is huge, plus a fun thing to do now when people do stupid s* and blame me I just say "LOL" and move on. I still don't agree with a permanent ban being the right action to take for my actions though. Permanent bans should be left for those who are attacking others, but being the one on the receiving end of the toxicity? I don't really understand it. But of course, like I said, I don't make the rules...
Karunamon (NA)
in > Why I was banned
>Permanent bans should be left for those who are attacking others, but being the one on the receiving end of the toxicity? League's rules aside, you stopped being a victim and started being an abuser when you started responding.
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Bijeesny (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TGTEg0kY,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-06-27T17:17:55.095+0000) > > If only League would try a manual review system hmmmm. > > Why am I suddenly thinking about the Tribunal that got backlogged it would take months for punishments to be handed out? > Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Then how does it work for CSGO but not for league? You can't even use the 'csgo has smaller community' argument because league had even smaller playerbase back then and still couldn't keep up. Either csgo community is the best community ever where no1 would try to exploit the system or RIot is just lazy to even consider to bring something like that up, considering we have a replay system now so it's prefectly doable.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Can we actually start punishing trolls/afkers/soft inters?
I wonder this myself. Full CSGO matches can go for equally as long as a league match.
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ScruffyTusks (NA)
: It was a permanent ban. I've been banned in the past as well. While I understand I was being toxic, and yes I have been toxic in the past before, but this is literally the extent of which I am toxic. I just would like to argue that Riot's banning system is way too harsh. Maybe implement a permanent chat restriction? Idk, I don't understand how they can't expect people to get frustrated when bullied in game. I have NEVER attacked anyone personally. AT WORST I've said they're f_ing idiots for doing something stupid in game, but this is a competitive eSport. People are going to argue. People are going to flame. Permanently banning a human being for getting upset because they're being attacked for everything (the leblanc was a HUGE asshole. Was telling me to kill myself and talking about my parents and shit, the usual), not to mention maybe I went through some personal s*** and I didn't want to hear it... I don't see how they can justify it. But whatever. It's their game. they own it, and its a privilege that we get to play it. Their game, their rules I guess, but this s*** doesn't make me want to support their game anymore or their company/future releases if they ever make another game.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Why I was banned
>It was a permanent ban. I've been banned in the past as well. And therein is the rub. You've been punished 3 times and been told to change your behavior each time, and you chose not to. >Permanently banning a human being for getting upset because they're being attacked for everything (the leblanc was a HUGE asshole. Was telling me to kill myself and talking about my parents and shit, the usual), not to mention maybe I went through some personal s* and I didn't want to hear it... I don't see how they can justify it. Because one person being a troll does not give you license to be a troll - you're just serving as a distraction for the other three people on your team who now have to mute your counter-flaming ass. >not to mention maybe I went through some personal s* and I didn't want to hear it... **YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO!** Just mute them! Nobody's asking you to put up with it. Mute them. Shout out loud. Pound your desk. You have an entire litany of options that don't involve unloading verbal diahhrea into the chat box.
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Risen29 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O3VvXuFv,comment-id=0015000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T23:48:23.283+0000) > > Since you have offered no rebuttal to what I said, nor offered any new argumentation to support your position, it will suffice to simply repost what I already said to you because it already shoots down your whining: You're living in a fantasy world of shit design if you think an isolated immobile cc-less ADC should have survived getting ganked by a wildly fed rengar during the mid game just because she was under a tower. Taking 30% of his HP would have changed nothing. Even taking 50% off, Rengar still would have made the dive and been happy to do it. Hell, if he knows no one else is there and he knows his damage levels well, he will make the dive even if it takes off 90% of his HP in one shot because he knows his numbers well enough to know what he can get away with. The only way this calculus changes is if MF isn't alone, or is on a champion that can CC/evade. The fact is you shouldn't be alone as an ADC at 20 minutes when you have no mobility or CC and their is a fed assassin on the enemy team. That's your fault, not the game's fault. What game have you been playing? That's how it's always been. The reverse is far worse: To be functionally immune to the enemy's assaults just because you're under a tower. The game would never end.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
It's amazing what you can do when you only reply to half of posts and put words in my mouth, but hey, you do you.
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Risen29 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O3VvXuFv,comment-id=00150000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T21:56:03.650+0000) > > So there is no safe place on the map. There never has been an absolutely safe space on the map, aside from the fountain. You're living in a fantasy world of shit design if you think an isolated immobile cc-less ADC should have survived getting ganked by a wildly fed rengar during the mid game just because she was under a tower.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
>Now there's nothing? You fall behind and you're doomed because assassins are so bursty and MS heavy they can just blithely ignore everything other than a CC tank?
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Risen29 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O3VvXuFv,comment-id=001500000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T21:39:42.683+0000) > > Which I didn&#x27;t ask for. In OP&#x27;s clip, the attacker took one single tower shot on thier way out, and it&#x27;s one that probably didn&#x27;t take more than 10% off their HP, if that. You're wrong, because logically it's what you would have to be asking for if you wanted that MF to survive that rengar dive. Taking 30% of his HP would have changed nothing. Even taking 50% off, Rengar still would have made the dive and been happy to do it. Hell, if he knows no one else is there and he knows his damage levels well, he will make the dive even if it takes off 90% of his HP in one shot because he knows his numbers well enough to know what he can get away with. The only way this calculus changes is if MF isn't alone, or is on a champion that can CC/evade. The fact is you shouldn't be alone as an ADC at 20 minutes when you have no mobility or CC and their is a fed assassin on the enemy team. That's your fault, not the game's fault.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
>The fact is you shouldn't be alone as an ADC at 20 minutes when you have no mobility or CC and their is a fed assassin on the enemy team. That's your fault, not the game's fault. So there is no safe place on the map. That's _shit _ design, yo. I remember when "play passive and farm under tower" was a legitimate strategy to playing from behind. Now there's nothing? You fall behind and you're doomed because assassins are so bursty and MS heavy they can just blithely ignore everything other than a CC tank?
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Kulle Aid Potion (NA)
: your screwed man. if you even submit a ticket the support is so one sided it hurts. I got a ban for saying someone is childish (basic recap.) him and his buddy reported me. don't worry neither of them were effected for behavior on league that shouldn't be acceptable. Such as racism and telling to commit self harm. They still played. I tracked them the whole time while I was banned. I asked support saying that is an unjustified ban. They looked at it saying that telling them that they need to grow up or anything in that matter is disrespectful and not seeing the other half of the story. Riot bases their ban of HALF a story. It doesn't matter what the others did. Riot doesn't give a flyin f*** about the game in question as a whole. if they did they would review the WHOLE chat log in game instead of just one. But a bot runs it. so a group of 4 can ban the other guy just cause he said "report X" because that also is harassment and is bannable. for just saying report. I suggest just dealing with it. Get some tilt control. let it be a lesson really. if your that pissed at a game. mute everyone and don't type. just get tilt control.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I got a 14 day ban for the same game i was chat restricted for
>if they did they would review the WHOLE chat log in game instead of just one. Given that each player is entirely responsible for their own chat, and that there is no context that makes toxic chat not-toxic, no. That is not the right answer.
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Kei143 (NA)
: 1. A baddie plays bad 2. A flamer flames them 3. baddie doesn't know what he did bad, and in retaliation, he plays worse. 4. Flamer flames more. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/657/039/7fa.jpg Cycle of toxicity continues.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I should be reported for creating toxicity
5) Baddie who inted in retaliation isn't punished despite committing a greater offense 6) Flamer flames more
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HalcyonDweller (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dragfin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MKANEyzV,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-26T20:19:37.929+0000) > > Can&#x27;t counter so you make a meaningless comment? It's not that they can't counter, it's that they don't want to waste their time with it. Your comment has a lot to unpack in it, not everyone who disagrees with it is going to be willing to go through all the extra efforts required to unpack it and analyze it.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I should be reported for creating toxicity
In which case they should remain silent rather than posting unsubstantive pithy comments that in no way advance the discussion.
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Risen29 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O3VvXuFv,comment-id=0015000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-26T19:56:53.138+0000) > > Does reaching a certain level or being massively fed mean you should be functionally immune to towers? Absolutely. What game have you been playing? That's how it's always been. The reverse is far worse: To be functionally immune to the enemy's assaults just because you're under a tower. The game would never end. Now, granted, I think towers are too weak in general, especially early, but that doesn't make your original argument true. You didn't deserve to be immune to getting dived in that situation for all the reasons I already outlined. And somewhat stronger towers wouldn't have saved you either, for those same reasons I outlined.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
>The reverse is far worse: To be functionally immune to the enemy's assaults just because you're under a tower. Which I didn't ask for. In OP's clip, the attacker took one single tower shot on thier way out, and it's one that probably didn't take more than 10% off their HP, if that. Towers ought to be bastions of safety that it takes effort to take down, not something you can just mindlessly traipse behind, kill someone, and then get out only taking a single shot.
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yamimosh (NA)
: The summoner code is disgustingly flawed
Karunamon (NA)
in > The summoner code is disgustingly flawed
>Afk? well sure, id love to just fucking leave, but thanks to riots incredible leaverbuster, im going to be penalized for someone elses actions. As a point of order, leaving a game with an inter will result in less pain for you than counter-flaming them or trying to stick it out and getting tilted off the face of the planet. Inters are still *relatively* rare, so the penalties are not going to escalate. As a bonus, this will usually provide the straw to break the back of the "NEVAR SURRENDER!!!1" types and get the game over with. (I notice that the small handful of games I've done this on usually have a successful surrender vote soon after I leave). You'll have to wait a bit to queue for your next game. Big deal. You're not going to be doing this enough for it to become a serious problem so long as you only do it when there is an actual inter on your team (not someone playing dumb or badly, but someone playing to intentionally lose like running it up mid). You're not ruining any games - the inter is the source of that problem. This will not be a popular opinion here, but until such time as Riot recognizes that their behavioral systems are entirely unsatistfactory and unjust in that they make life more difficult for legitimate players than dedicated trolls, this is the better option. It's harm reduction, basically. You can stick it out, get tilted, and probably want to defenestrate your computer, or you can just leave the game and keep your chill. The inter already fucked you by doing what they did, but this way, at least you get fucked less.
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yamimosh (NA)
: Game 1 In-Game yamimosh: you picked a bad champ yamimosh: wtf yamimosh: are you doing yamimosh: holy shit yamimosh: youre a monkey yamimosh: brand yamimosh: is literally afk yamimosh: gg yamimosh: no he was sitting at tower a%%%er eating a lux bind yamimosh: didnt get any xp yamimosh: then just leaves yamimosh: bot otwers already gone yamimosh: can we report this fucking dude? yamimosh: no dont come anywhere near this lane yamimosh: this is done yamimosh: dont yamimosh: go yamimosh: mid yamimosh: or top yamimosh: and ge tthem ahead yamimosh: im already out of the game yamimosh: because of this dude yamimosh: why... yamimosh: what did i do to deserve this yamimosh: report this dude please yamimosh: youre sitting at tower yamimosh: and lost us a level 2 advantage yamimosh: please dont troll yamimosh: im already pissed, id rather not say something thatll get me banned yamimosh: i didnt flame him at all yamimosh: this is a fucking joke yamimosh: i asked yamimosh: wtf youre doing yamimosh: thats it yamimosh: then you sat at tower and afked yamimosh: why are you even here? yamimosh: just fucking afk yamimosh: hoenstly yamimosh: whats the differnece yamimosh: youre not doing anything but suiciding and walking around jung yamimosh: nice yamimosh: nice yamimosh: i love how you guys are just gonna instantly queue into another one and prob not even report too yamimosh: thats the best part yamimosh: is this shitstain of a human being is going to do this in another 12 fucking games before anyone does anything yamimosh: it doesnt matter yamimosh: hes just gonna make another account yamimosh: because riot doesnt give a fuck yamimosh: imaigne yamimosh: if i dint yamimosh: have to fuckign yamimosh: 1v2 yamimosh: report this fucking degenerate yamimosh: dont fucking say gg yamimosh: Stfu context, he was afk at tower when i asked wtf are you doing in the first couple messages, he took a lux bind then just sat at tower and left about 40 seconds after. I called him a monkey, its an animal. if that's toxic then grow the fuck up. I swear alot, theres a chat filter though that people disable, so i dont understand the issue there. called him a shitstain of a human being because... in fact... he is a shitstain of a human being. ^ also applies with degenerate, and both of these came after dealing with this for about 20 minutes. I told him to afk because he was already sitting in base not doing anything, and when he wasnt, he was running down mid towers. Woudlve been better for everyone if he just left.
Karunamon (NA)
in > The summoner code is disgustingly flawed
>called him a shitstain of a human being because... in fact... he is a shitstain of a human being. >^ also applies with degenerate, and both of these came after dealing with this for about 20 minutes. Look at it this way. Calm down your salt at getting a perfectly legitimate chat restrict and think for a moment. Say you're being the decent guy on your team, and a troll starts up. Someone else engages them, and the chatbox is filled with an argument. You're gonna mute both the troll, *and the guy who engaged them*. Both of them are making the game worse.
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Silent Gravity (NA)
: Way back in the 90's there was a study about trolling. They found that trolls troll to get reactions. The study found that when a _single person_ responds to a troll, that it encourages them to keep trolling. They found that trolls generally troll about 20 times for every time they receive a reaction. When no one responds to a troll, they get bored and stop trolling. ----------------------------- **DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!** ------------------------------- If it takes 20 games of not getting a response for a troll to get bored, that means that 180 people have to exhibit the smallest bit of self control to get them to stop. Or alternately, every time you respond to a troll, you personally helped the troll to feel motivated to ruin 180 more peoples' games. > I realize youre not supposed to fight toxic with toxic, but it's flawed and stupid and counterproductive. Encouraging trolling is really counterproductive if you're annoyed by trolling. ----------------------- And then there are the people who you annoy with lines like > yamimosh: you picked a bad champ who decide to troll since you were going to spend the game shitting in chat anyway.
Karunamon (NA)
in > The summoner code is disgustingly flawed
>If it takes 20 games of not getting a response for a troll to get bored, that means that 180 people have to exhibit the smallest bit of self control to get them to stop. *In fairness*, that's not gonna happen. Even if you have a strict dont-feed-the-trolls policy, few people seem to understand that.
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Risen29 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O3VvXuFv,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2018-06-25T20:20:35.708+0000) > > They&#x27;re under tower. Making a dive like that ought to be risky. Currently, it&#x27;s zero risk. He's fed out of his mind and laning phase is long since over at 20 minutes. You're an ADC that is suppose to die to assassins. On top of that you're the most vulnerable kind of ADC with no CC, mobility, or defense. Under all these conditions you're suppose to die. Towers would have to make you invulnerable and insta-kill the enemy to prevent you from dying in such a disadvantaged circumstance.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
Does reaching a certain level or being massively fed mean you should be functionally immune to towers? At this point I'm thinking you could literally run it up mid and not die until you hit the fountain laser.
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Meritas (EUNE)
: League wasn't in a "maintenance mode" state and hasn't been for many seasons, I'm not sure it ever was in such a state actually. If people quit because they can't suck up a big shift in the meta, the actual mistake of Riot doesn't lie in the latest changes, but actually far back, when Riot decided to allow for a stale meta to take over the game and people's mindset. Though it may turn out to be too late, Riot is doing the right thing now. I'd rather see them die doing the right thing than to live just a bit longer the wrong way.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Rito said ppl move on from games. I fully disagree and that statement makes me MAD.
Baseball/basketball are boring, they have a stale meta.
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ChallengerTier (NA)
: >why the hell do you have to hard carry 3 games against people with up to 500 lp above your own just so you can get into the next division? ?? are u on crack or some shit? if ur playing with ppl 500lp above you either: A: ur smurfing, shouldnt have a problem B: ur talking about the p5/d5 0 lp players who are literaly dogshit have same mmr as gold 5s/plat 5s, so its fine
Karunamon (NA)
in > fuck promos
> ur talking about the p5/d5 0 lp players who are literaly dogshit have same mmr as gold 5s/plat 5s, so its fine That's the same problem being complained about in reverse friendo. If you're playing at G/P mmr you should be in G/P league.
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Anatera (NA)
: The sad thing is, when people leave a game, they tend to leave it for good. The odds of Riot "regaining" those players is basically nil at this point. The least they can do is stop the current player count from going any lower, but despite the meta basically being the cause of all this, Riot continues to go full steam ahead, as if they have some kind of grand plan to make everything great. No one wants to sit around and experience the god awful state the game is in while waiting for Riot to make everything amazing again.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Riot says they prioritize making the game fresh and interesting...
The meta's a part of it, but I think the larger part is tox. Put simply, Riot's stats be damned, this has been the absolute worst season I've ever played. I can put up with losing. I can put up with having to basically re-learn how to play all over again. Add in people with a mental age of twelve who start screaming and inting after a simple mistake? Not worth it anymore. Doubly so when whatever is being done doesn't appear to meaningfully reduce the problem
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kurnubego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Echostormxx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pW1w1EiZ,comment-id=00080002,timestamp=2018-06-25T18:07:33.332+0000) > > If you&#x27;ve been reading so many posts of people complaining lately, wouldn&#x27;t it make sense that an increasing number of players are becoming dissatisfied with the game? I can play games for years and not get bored of them. I started playing league of legends pretty much exactly a year ago. I was having a blast up until season 8 began. At first I was really excited, but by now I realize the game is getting worse and worse. I think if the meta didn&#x27;t drastically shift to this unfun one-shot or be one-shot, then maybe the game wpuld be more tolerable. If you want to stick to your argument, that&#x27;s fine, bt just know that a lot of people agree that the game is going in the wrong direction. It's common for unhappy people to say bad things and for ones who are satisfied to stay silent.
Karunamon (NA)
in > Riot says they prioritize making the game fresh and interesting...
Indeed. Now, what do you make of the reports of perpetually-offline friends lists and famous streamers moving on?
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Leichy (EUNE)
: I am sorry, but there is a difference between having a bad game and being stupid. If you are 1 4, play freaking def and dont go solo against 3 of them. Kda does not matter that much, your playstyle while you're behind does..
Karunamon (NA)
in > To those of you reporting people for having a bad game
Being stupid is not against the rules. Intentionally assisting the enemy is. Learn the difference.
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ali afri (EUW)
: he is 10/2 , if he cant dive u under tower how he can win the game, kda should be removed so and gold difference dont matters in game, all start with 100k gold level 18 then go in game !
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
Does reaching a certain level or being massively fed mean you should be functionally immune to towers?
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Risen29 (NA)
: You're a lone ADC with no mobility or CC. Assassins are suppose to kill you in that situation. The counterplay is called teamwork.
Karunamon (NA)
in > I wish I could send this video to the balance team
They're under tower. Making a dive like that ought to be risky. Currently, it's zero risk.
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ZBG secseb (EUW)
: If this solution doesn't work for your mac it has only one reason: For Hammerspoon to work the way it is supposed to it needs an actual window. If u play LoL in full-screen mode it doesn't work. So just go to your in-game menu and change it to borderless. That way it looks the same but interacts as a window. If nothing helps try to disable enter in general: enterUnbind = hs.hotkey.new({}, 'return', function() end):enable() Have fun not being toxic {{sticker:galio-happy}}
Karunamon (NA)
in > HOW TO: Unbind your enter key to prevent inadvertent toxicity
Ah! That explains why it worked for me but others were having problems. I'll put that in the OP, thanks!
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RangerDanger5000 (NA)
: I completely agree, but for the longevity of this game clarity is key. When examining other games that have been able to find long term successes (StarCraft, World of War Craft, etc.) , they all releases annually or biannually player base reports. However, I will suggest that as Riot is now a subsidiary of the Chinese tycoon Ten-Cent, maybe they don't have the legal rights to releasing that information.
Karunamon (NA)
in > It's Time We Had a Serious Conversation About the Report System
I really do wonder how much of the nonsense we're seeing is a result of tencent executive meddling. A common conspiracy theory is that game length was driven down to cater to the Asian cyber cafe crowd, but there's no proving it.
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Rarok Armcrush (NA)
: Chat restricted for THIS? (link in post)
Karunamon (NA)
in > Chat restricted for THIS? (link in post)
>Rarok Armcrush: It's gg you're useless in lane Rarok Armcrush: stole the jg buff AND useless in lane Rarok Armcrush: I called support Rarok Armcrush: I wanted the Support role as assinged by Riot Games Rarok Armcrush: You took the red buff it was gg I stopped playing right there lol Your attitude is exceedingly negative, and you pretty blatantly admitted you gave up. It reads *very* trolly.
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Phoneutria (NA)
: I did not alter the logs at all. I will screen shot the pop-up if you want me to. I got chat banned after a single game of cursing one time.
Karunamon (NA)
in > After 7 years of not being banned a single time, this is what Riot (Greg Street) deems "bannable"
Was it a 10 or a 25 game chat ban?
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RangerDanger5000 (NA)
: So to clarify, you believe the system would be gamed because Riot released numbers on: The number of people reported, the percentage relative to the entire player-base and the reform rate? Well that's extremely odd seeing as Riot literally did that a few years ago in a report over toxicity. Also, if the fear is the system will be gamed, then then system has an inherent problem that it can be gamed by such simple information being released.
Karunamon (NA)
in > It's Time We Had a Serious Conversation About the Report System
Riot's become a great deal more opaque than they used to be. It's been years since the number of active players has even been released, which I think can generally be understood to mean the number is going down. >Also, if the fear is the system will be gamed, then then system has an inherent problem that it can be gamed by such simple information being released. You're not wrong.
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