Odyssey Sona
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
F: {{champion:37}} for obvious reasons. Well.. two very specific obvious reasons. Plus it would be interesting seeing how far the muteness goes or if certain things would just wind up being sent telepathically.
M: {{champion:201}} strong, wholesome, supportive, and the most epic mustache.
K: {{champion:157}} for being an unlikeable edgelord. Even {{champion:17}} is fun outside of work.
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axilirate
(EUW)
Karunamon
(NA)
Hi again. 3 months later, sure enough, no real impact to player numbers.
Told ya.
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JVee3
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=JVee3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wfl4kacI,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-12-10T17:00:42.910+0000)
>
> Can anyone tell me why jungle is always being nerfed?
Because having your games won and lost primarily on the decisions made by one player is not even remotely enjoyable. I've seen and been in way too many games where lanes were doing fair-to-good, but the enemy jungler basically ran away with the game and became a nightmare.
"gg jungle diff" isn't just a meme.
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Aroma1989
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Aroma1989,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=m9QMwyHU,comment-id=000f00000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T16:14:30.736+0000)
>
> Unironically, I wouldn't put it past the company to fine him for it.
That'll put them in the same boat as Blizzard.
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AlterMordred
(EUNE)
> [{quoted}](name=AlterMordred,realm=EUNE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=m9QMwyHU,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2019-10-09T18:07:28.707+0000)
>
> Im being serious delete your thread, Tencent is extremely anti Hong Kong they would really remove the boards if this shit starts getting too much attention as much as it sucks
So let's bring more attention to it and we can prove that at least one other company says "how high?" when china says "jump".
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Nazgul10
(EUNE)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Nazgul10,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vEnyNtOA,comment-id=000d000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-07T14:00:43.600+0000)
>
> Yeah, so? Because someone gets a 14 day means that they have to be put on Riot's watchlist?
Pretty much. You put one toe out of line after a 2 weeks ban, and you're gone. You've already had your chances by that point.
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Kai Guy
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TiRZ2s9T,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-02T18:04:37.564+0000)
>
> The game is 2d. X and Y only. To animate around models creates issues with their animations and inconsistencies in game.
>
> What Qveen is saying is accurate. Because Hitboxes need to be consistent that makes them geometric shapes rather then outlines.
>
> Edit. Replied to wrong poster. Doh.
They're always going to look a bit fucked up because even though you're right, your view is at a 3D angle.
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mack9112
(NA)
That's memory filtered through slowly changing perception. Go watch the S4 worlds final, then go watch the one from last year, one right after the other. The pace change is unmistakable.
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LTK KoRo
(EUW)
Huh, can't say I ever had that problem considering I watched all of those live.
Kids these days smh
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mack9112
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9X4omvJc,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-10-02T03:39:14.994+0000)
>
> I don’t understand how there can be a ‘ fast ‘ meta or a ‘ slow ‘ meta.
Go watch the seasons 1-4 championship games.
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Zeyphel
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Zeyphel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tU9grzBH,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-10-02T14:42:23.474+0000)
>
> How do you clasify a champion like Rengar who has tons of damage and is reliable?
OP didn't think about that in his passive-aggressive sniping at that one guy known as the boards.
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Bârd
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
>This isn't a super complicated concept, but the Boards can't wrap their heads around it.
You know what's not a super complicated concept? "The Boards" isn't one person and it isn't fair to generalize.
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Romans VI XXIII
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Romans VI XXIII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TiRZ2s9T,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-10-01T23:35:46.351+0000)
>
> Actually I agree that that hit. It just looks stupid cause the animation does not match the hit box.
And this can't be fixed, why?
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Tomoe Gozen
(EUNE)
>Point 2...People are not properly itemizing against physical damage, i rarely see Thornmail being built or Randuin's against a core Marksman team comps.
The game has become so bursty there's usually little reason to build defensively. Your gold is better spent on MOAR DAMAGE, and that goes double with lethality and true damage.
>Point 4, are you saying that Riot putting first turret armor
Didn't that just serve to throw *even more* gold around? If they were just plates that had some regen (and more than a pitiful amount - minutes at lategame) when left alone, that would be one thing, but now, they had to throw even more gold around. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
>If one team is clearly ahead, the game should end sooner rather than later and not drag along and still not have a win condition for the losing team that's being led to believe that there is a chance for a comeback,
Shit like this has gone too far and it's one of the reasons people are so keen to get out of matches faster even if it means AFKing. If you're anything below dead even, there's little point to playing it out since statistically, you're fucked.
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ThatShinyPiplup
(NA)
100 range increase is enough to allow him to hook buffs while standing in the river.
That's pretty stupid tbh.
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Tayzzer
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Tayzzer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mvXXpyQr,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-09-30T16:11:21.437+0000)
>
> Honestly I think you are crazy if you want to lower the skill cap. High skill cap is the best feature of league imo. Rioters reading this dont think we all agree plz theres lots of us who like complex mechanics
Nothing wrong with high skill cap. It's when the skill floor is low that people get upset. (Akali diving under turrets with no consequence, Yasuo getting to block projectiles and delete ults even when he casts the wrong way or getting placed out of turret range, Pyke with point-and-click gold generation.)
All of those things serve to reduce the skill floor.
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ChrisBrownze
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=ChrisBrownze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p8gqm5FU,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-09-30T02:35:10.987+0000)
>
> After the change hes no different.
Pre-change Blitz couldn't pull blue/red from the river.
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TyRamos
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=TyRamos,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MmmyHA8W,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-09-27T06:05:06.841+0000)
>
> Yeah but there could be some initial splashing of mmr and then adjustment from there as you play norms.
Which would make logical sense. A challenger Irelia onetrick doesn't forget all of their muscle memory, macro, and so forth just because they clicked "normal" instead of "ranked", and that applies even if they play a role they're not used to. A challenger toplane onetrick will play, at least, mid-to-high diamond in an offrole.
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Gall
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Gall,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHbN6oUa,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-09-27T13:31:19.977+0000)
>
> Real reason is because high elo players who know about 2/3 of all the people they play with (D1+) would abuse the system by reporting or blocking certain players,
So instead of handling this unique class of abuse that is only relevant to the top few percent of the playerbase, we're all stuck dealing with trolls because god fucking forbid that solutions are tailored to the problems.
Typical fucking riot.
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Heckin Support
(NA)
Oh they learned, alright. They learned that they don't have to invest substantial effort on this game anymore, in favor of lame gacha cash grabs.
Worse, people pay for this shit.
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C9 Scott
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=C9 Scott,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000d0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-23T23:28:25.715+0000)
>
> That's obviously fake.
Go look up the S1 box art. Nothing fake about it.
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Freaktory
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Freaktory,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ERe4fPaT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-21T04:56:32.568+0000)
>
> -words-
Post chatlogs or you're full of it.
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Eleshakai
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4jA20aA,comment-id=00190001,timestamp=2019-09-20T21:03:59.429+0000)
>
> I love how people thumbsed down this without replying. lol
>
> Come on, don't chicken out. The OP didn't chicken out, the rest of you who downvoted should do the same - try to provide your set of checks and balances.
>
> If you can't do it, then stop complaining about how easy it must be.
>
> Followup note: I am not trying to claim Riot is doing a good job. Nor am I going to say they're not. I'm just saying... if you all think its so easy... do it up. Tell me what you want it to check for. Because I'm sure if you ACTUALLY have an answer, and one that fits the important criteria... we can probably pitch it to Riot - and other MOBA developers - for a good chunk of change. Every MOBA dev would love to find the magic formula.
1: Zero false positives isn't a goal that can be achieved even in the IRL justice system, so that doesn't sound like a good reason to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If there is a false positive, that sounds like something that would generate a support ticket (and so human review) in the vast majority of cases.
2: Item purchases are important. Nobody does mass item sell-offs to purchase six of the same item for a legitimate reason. This is low-hanging fruit that can be easily picked. Shit like the image described in the OP shouldn't be possible.
3: Nah. There's no reason borderline cases can't be surfaced for a human (either riot, or a volunteer) to look at. I still maintain that if freaking CSGO can have Overwatch, we can have Tribunal in a form that fixes the problems of the old one. The presence of stuff like the image in the OP shows me that their fancy machine learning system has some blind spots so big a truck could drive through them.
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Emelie Cauchemar
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Emelie Cauchemar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000a0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-20T12:33:24.364+0000)
>
> As for the phone number. In my time playing, I've had access to over 20 phone numbers. So, by default, I'm entitled to 20 accounts. I currently have access to 6 fresh numbers as it is now, soo technically I can have 26 accounts.
How many of those numbers are VoIP (online/app-provided/etc) numbers that are mobile and not currently used by anyone else? Because DOTA won't accept any of those.
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Kei143
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000600000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-20T12:46:36.050+0000)
>
> Ah, the phone number is just for ranked and not for the whole game? That would certainly change the "p2p" definition.
Yes. You can play casual games all day long. But even if they did, that wouldn't make the phone number requirement "pay to play" because, and this is the critical bit, *you aren't paying anything to play*.
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D3caKill
(EUW)
> [{quoted}](name=D3caKill,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MAPZaYfO,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-20T15:20:32.581+0000)
>
> first of it was just a question and u take it as a order, i literally just asked why dont push lane?????
Couching a demand as a question doesn't make it less of a demand.
>u really are a more toxic person than i am while nobody is even flaming u, and i was in a x10 worse situation than u right now
Somehow since season 2 or 3 I've managed to never, not one time, get so much as a chat restriction. So kindly miss me with that.
>really any word u say or question in this game is taking as the worse tone possible then u can take everything as negative?
Yeah because it's easy to take:
>D3caKill: pls report teemo
>D3caKill: keep flaming pls
>D3caKill: is fun to flame some1 who 1 v 5
>D3caKill: loe elo macro
>D3caKill: wtf is this team
as anything other than positive or helpful.
{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Cmon man, you're smarter than that. Don't play at being this dumb.
Or, yknow, you can keep doing what you're doing and just keep losing accounts. That power is entirely in your hands my dude.
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qIhMhHerman
(EUW)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=qIhMhHerman,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=F8qhHEGB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-20T14:37:56.948+0000)
>
> Didn't do any of those things
You need to post your entire chat log then. There's a copy button on the window you screenshotted. Hit it and come back here.
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D3caKill
(EUW)
> [{quoted}](name=D3caKill,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MAPZaYfO,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-20T14:45:51.535+0000)
>
> a simple question and this league community taking it as flame and order? when im 1 v 3 mid and enemy top is missing top half the game, dont u think i have the rights to ask why he is not pushing lane and punish her roam?
# **_No_**.
You are not a pro coach, a teacher, a parent, or anyone with any kind of authority to be behaving like this.
You can ask them to do something. You can't order them to do something and then get indignant when they don't. In this case, you didn't even bother to do that - you just went straight to bitching about their performance, something that has in the history of this game, never caused someone to start playing better.
On top of all that, you were told three separate times on this account that your behavior was unacceptable.
You're plat 4 with a sub-50% winrate. How would you like it if some dia 4 player kept a running commentary about how shit you were playing? You barely went over even in your KDA for crying out loud. Do you think them constantly bringing that up would improve your play, or would it just be tilt bait?
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Kei143
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=0006000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T21:56:02.372+0000)
>
> I guess there's a difference in the value of the account when you have to p2p (needs phone number, and no duplicate accounts) compared to a f2p game.
>
> In LoL, 14-day bans / permabans don't seem to mean as much.
That's not what f2p/p2p means. Dota is a free to play game as well - the phone number is required only for ranked. No money changes hands as a result.
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Player3Th0mas
(NA)
Trick question - toxic teammates are usually bad. They drag down the winrates of teams they're on.
Give me four Iron 4 teammates any day. They can be taught.
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OneMustFall
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-09-20T00:07:37.118+0000)
>
> So they now have "perma" bans for toxic players which is something League has had since the beginning of time. Cool.
DOTA always shoved the excessively toxic into low priority queue (read: you only play with other people are were toxic, and you had to win your way out), but it sounds like now they're taking it a step further.
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Crystalysk
(EUW)
> [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ENh4h2pZ,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T17:26:36.004+0000)
>
> I guess you do not realize the chaos that change would make. It will not take 2 patches to fix the mess it would create
Since when do the people who make this game care if a change throws the game into chaos? Runes reforged, pre/mid season patches, and so forth.
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Power Mac
(EUW)
> [{quoted}](name=Power Mac,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ENh4h2pZ,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-09-19T16:22:13.088+0000)
>
> This feels about as true as a metal fan lamenting that there aren't enough metal bands playing with distorted guitars. I don't know whether we've been visiting the same boards, but the majority of the posts here are "Riot sucks because...".
Maybe there's a reason for that? Hmmm...
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sp441
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=sp441,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JRN5dELl,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-09-18T21:47:11.920+0000)
>
>
> I'm not saying that there isn't a kernel of truth to the above claims, or that it's all hysterical nonsense, but I feel that the Boards have kind of become an echo chamber of negativity where people vastly overblow the problems that the game has.
That's what happens when Riot basically abandons the boards. Here we get basically the Meddler dev posts, announcements, with the vast majority of Rioter action happening in SA&S. Hell, go look at the red tracker, there hasn't been a single post in about a week.
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Yenn
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
The plates being there serve a legitimate purpose, it stops botlane from being decided with a single gank. It fixed a significant problem with the previous two seasons in that you'll generally just lose some plating and have a chance to make another, maybe even a third stand to defend the tower.
What needs to be dialed the fuck down is the bounty from killing them.
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ImTheJuggernauty
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=ImTheJuggernauty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9arUY4EL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-19T16:42:38.421+0000)
>
> Basically it meant that, even with two mobility sums up, I wasn't safe IN THE MIDDLE OF MY LANE, as a LANE BULLY type champ, because the instant my lane opponent lands CC it's a virtual guaranteed cc chain from nunu the jgler,
This is pretty standard design, going all the way back to the beginning. Take Blitzcrank for instance - he's not a jungler, but he has the same pattern. If his hook or knockup lands, there's no getting off the wild ride you've just been signed up for, and it'll probably end in your death if there's anyone else around.
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Kei143
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=00060000000000010000,timestamp=2019-09-19T20:31:43.609+0000)
>
> Oh I can imagine how it feels. Riot can imagine how it feels as well, which is why they opted not to use such a method to punish others.
A shame they're more concerned with the feelings of the trolls than the not-trolls. Getting a serial inter in your game sucks. The entire history of this game is littered with failed carrots - honor, ranked rewards, clash, etc, and there's still just as much trolling, toxicity, and intentional feeding as there's been for years.
It's time to drop carrots and start applying more sticks. Or at the very least, it's time to start punishing trolls and toxicity at least as much as non-trolls and non-toxic players.
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Dynikus
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-19T06:29:10.793+0000)
>
> A rioter (I don't remember which one) tweeted that a majority of their focus for this preseason is going to be about improving the quality of matchmaking.
I'm sure they said it, but I'll believe they meant it when the patch notes arrive, not a moment before.
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C9 Scott
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=C9 Scott,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-09-19T18:46:06.968+0000)
>
> The last thing we should be doing is copying DOTA.
Oh, stop it. It's time to admit that DOTA has some good ideas.
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Lokiijuice
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Lokiijuice,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7xjAjBE9,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T17:35:58.624+0000)
>
> Lol what but in this example the team is just as bad . So defending yourself is wrong in the case that the other people on your team are all of the same mind? Majority wins? If the conversation was unproductive and spiteful it makes more sense to get a chat ban. Imo.
There is no "defending yourself" against words. You either stop the words from coming, or you contribute to the problem.
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Kei143
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
Arguably, because new ranked-ready accounts can be purchased for cheaper than many skins with zero effort taken to prevent them from coming back.
And not even then, given how hard you have to int to catch a permaban. There's a post on the front page right now of some guy with tens of 0/x/0 with 6 health beads Rammus games in a row who is *still playing*.
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axilirate
(EUW)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=axilirate,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-09-19T15:42:50.355+0000)
>
> Yea so there will be about 3 players playing.
I'll check in with you in a few months. Bet you a legendary skin you're wrong.
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Emelie Cauchemar
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Emelie Cauchemar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-09-19T15:47:17.580+0000)
>
> If they made it so you couldn't smurf in this game high elo would effectively die because nobody would want to climb.
Why isn't this a problem in DOTA? Once you reach where you're supposed to be in the ladder, you cease climbing until your skill improves. That's how ladders work.
> For reference, imagine after two months of play you have to play at exclusively X hours, and only get to play 1 game ((and decay at the same time)) a week because the queue times are 30+ minutes. Best part? You just got target banned and can't dodge because of the time wasted.
Don't we have autofill to keep queue times reasonable? Isn't high elo supposed to entail some kind of bragging rights? Dia+ isn't for casuals.
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Kei143
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T15:51:59.932+0000)
>
> ah .. prisoner's island system.
Yep. Actual justice, unlike the wrist slaps you get over here, if you even get those.
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FOR JUSTICE
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-09-19T15:24:45.005+0000)
>
> i mean... a good 80% of the people we meet have a smurf.
>
> using a smurf in ranked =/= ill intent just to smash lower ranked players.
No, but that doesn't matter from the perspective of the player stuck in the smurf games.. The game is unfair - it's as close to possible as cheating without actually using third party tools.
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Kei143
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-19T15:16:56.245+0000)
>
> Oh .. did DOTA2 not have permabans for people whom were shown to be consistently toxic before?
AFAIK toxicity in DOTA2 used to exclusively send you to low priority queue (basically games where you're stuck with other toxic people), and you had to win to get out.
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flyerbek
(NA)
> [{quoted}](name=caffeine abuser,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7xjAjBE9,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T07:21:34.363+0000)
>
> Also I made it to punishment tier 2 (honor 0, 25 game restriction) from a grand total of 5 matches over the 7 years I've played this game where I was being flamed in NORMALS for underperforming on a champion I DON'T PLAY, and I tried to defend myself but was continuously harassed to the point of exploding in a fit of rage. "Oh you can't do that! You are hurting the feelings of those players who are calling you trash and garbage and telling you to uninstall because you should have been aborted, they are such gentle little lambs who never did anything to deserve it, how dare you, you monster!"
>
> Where's the consideration for my perspective? Why don't my feelings matter?
The feelings (and stats) of your team matter more at the end of the day. And you can talk about poor mental all you want, but toxicity has a provable negatve impact on winrates.
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Subdue
(NA)
Karunamon
(NA)
Because they have this insane belief that most players don't have mobile phones.
It's 2019. Most people with computers have mobile phones.
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Karunamon
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> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k1fETiew,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T10:49:50.990+0000)
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> If we're talking about pathetic, then Steam not being able to prevent smurfs despite needing a phone number for an account is what qualifies.
It's a free-to-play game on a free-to-play system. They have to bring in some kind of external identifier. And while yes, it is possible to buy burner phones, that's a significant pain in the ass involving money changing hands.
VoIP numbers are banned as well, so that excludes most of the easy ways someone could get a new phone number aside from actually getting a new line or a prepaid phone or something.
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