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Hope I get lucky and get a 2 star in first draw and get 4 items from creeps. Seems the most reliable.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kazrep,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NKhlPL1B,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-09T04:06:13.012+0000) > > Why would I do that? I enjoy playing the game with people around my skill level and I own all the champs already on my account. I don't have self esteem issues enough to make a new account to stomp on people to make myself feel good. > I suppose it's not like overwatch where they spell out cheating as engaging in any act that gives an unfair advantage. They just have a checkbox next to the word "Cheating" I suppose if they don't see a problem matching MASTER players on an actual Master ranked account in games with legit new people (happened to this same friend earlier today) putting fresh accounts with high MMR players behind them with legit new players is nothing. Good ol League. “Self-Esteem Issues” Guess if I’m a silver player who wants to make an account where I main one champ only and play in silver elo, I’m not allowed to because you don’t like it
> [{quoted}](name=4G PnutCollida,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NKhlPL1B,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-09T05:32:03.871+0000) > > “Self-Esteem Issues” > > Guess if I’m a silver player who wants to make an account where I main one champ only and play in silver elo, I’m not allowed to because you don’t like it Silvers can't stomp anybody, so I don't really think they're comparable. But when a plat+ makes a new account to play their MAIN champs anyway? That's pretty silly
: It's not a question of whether "we" are OK with this or not. It's a free to play game. Go and create multiple accounts for yourself too, nobody's going to stop you.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NKhlPL1B,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-09T03:57:41.136+0000) > > It's not a question of whether "we" are OK with this or not. It's a free to play game. Go and create multiple accounts for yourself too, nobody's going to stop you. Why would I do that? I enjoy playing the game with people around my skill level and I own all the champs already on my account. I don't have self esteem issues enough to make a new account to stomp on people to make myself feel good. I suppose it's not like overwatch where they spell out cheating as engaging in any act that gives an unfair advantage. They just have a checkbox next to the word "Cheating" I suppose if they don't see a problem matching MASTER players on an actual Master ranked account in games with legit new people (happened to this same friend earlier today) putting fresh accounts with high MMR players behind them with legit new players is nothing. Good ol League.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Kazrep,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-12-02T07:56:26.770+0000) > > I'm exaggerating time clearly, although I do remember the death report saying just under 1200 true damage (49%) in one teamfight near the end. and thats with me tackling her into a wall and my team following up. What I want to know is how to deal with a tank Vayne. The only thing that worked for us was her basically inting in our jungle alone. If she stays with her team there was really nothing we could do, Bramble vest helped not at all either. "exaggerating" You missed the "lie about Vayne" trend by _years_.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-12-02T16:45:25.932+0000) > > "exaggerating" > > You missed the "lie about Vayne" trend by _years_. Right guess I'll just pick up Vayne and build tank on her since nobody has actually answered how to deal with her
: > [{quoted}](name=Kazrep,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-02T05:20:33.545+0000) > > does 1200 true damage to tanks in a second. Considering that she could get at most one Silver Bolts proc in a single second, which is at most 14% of your health, you had 1200/0.14=8571 health. Congratulations, you're a liar.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-02T07:28:19.619+0000) > > Considering that she could get at most one Silver Bolts proc in a single second, which is at most 14% of your health, you had 1200/0.14=8571 health. Congratulations, you're a liar. I'm exaggerating time clearly, although I do remember the death report saying just under 1200 true damage (49%) in one teamfight near the end. and thats with me tackling her into a wall and my team following up. What I want to know is how to deal with a tank Vayne. The only thing that worked for us was her basically inting in our jungle alone. If she stays with her team there was really nothing we could do, Bramble vest helped not at all either.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kazrep,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-12-02T06:09:50.202+0000) > > Obvious exaggeration, literally nobody is unkillable. The point was why is Vayne allowed to be a contender for most damage in game with 4 tank items? You'd see the same if Kog'Maw did the same kind of build. Gnar builds like a tank and does the same thing when he's mini. Ezreal's been building a little bit tanky as his primary build for how many seasons now? And yeah, she did 1200 damage to the tank. A normal ADC would have just killed it. ADC Vayne would have killed it even faster than a normal ADC. Hell, I'd say let ADCs build tanky if they want/need and allow them to do damage still. It'd all be through their auto attacks, but in reality, what's wrong with that? They're always going to deal less than a carry built for damage. They may be more successful in a duel with an enemy carry, but that doesn't mean they can pump out enough damage to take out an entire enemy team before they get dunked. If Vayne were to only have Silver Bolts as a damage source, it would take a minimum of 8 procs to kill someone, which with a stacked rageblade is 16 attacks. That is a minimum of 6.4 seconds of just right clicking. Of course, that's at maximum attack speed and Vayne with zerks and rageblade isn't attacking that fast. Of course she still does physical damage too, and Guinsoo's does damage, but let her have that. Give ADCs alternative paths. She only does single target damage anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=ZerglingOne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-02T06:35:38.795+0000) > > You'd see the same if Kog'Maw did the same kind of build. Gnar builds like a tank and does the same thing when he's mini. > > Ezreal's been building a little bit tanky as his primary build for how many seasons now? > > And yeah, she did 1200 damage to the tank. A normal ADC would have just killed it. ADC Vayne would have killed it even faster than a normal ADC. > > Hell, I'd say let ADCs build tanky if they want/need and allow them to do damage still. It'd all be through their auto attacks, but in reality, what's wrong with that? They're always going to deal less than a carry built for damage. They may be more successful in a duel with an enemy carry, but that doesn't mean they can pump out enough damage to take out an entire enemy team before they get dunked. > > If Vayne were to only have Silver Bolts as a damage source, it would take a minimum of 8 procs to kill someone, which with a stacked rageblade is 16 attacks. That is a minimum of 6.4 seconds of just right clicking. Of course, that's at maximum attack speed and Vayne with zerks and rageblade isn't attacking that fast. > > Of course she still does physical damage too, and Guinsoo's does damage, but let her have that. Give ADCs alternative paths. She only does single target damage anyway. She had lethal tempo as well. And I know she can only do this because she gets insane true damage you can't even itemize against, but what are we supposed to do? She's tanky enough that it takes too long to kill her even if we cc chained her, and if we don't focus her she a-moves and alt tabs out to win the game.
: Tank items are worthless, tanks are worthless. Doubt she is unkillable.
> [{quoted}](name=Just Jangle,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ut9FMI5f,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-02T05:36:11.457+0000) > > Tank items are worthless, tanks are worthless. > > Doubt she is unkillable. Obvious exaggeration, literally nobody is unkillable. The point was why is Vayne allowed to be a contender for most damage in game with 4 tank items?
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