: Neeko reminds me of inside out for some reason
: 2018 Lore Party Thread! Free-For-All Time
3oh (NA)
: hey, friendly neighborhood viktor main here, can we get the old walk animation back?
No, it's meant for all his skins *before he purchases boots.* If you have a problem with it, rush boots. His old run animation looked like slow-mo at base run speed.
Noxxarian (EUNE)
: What lore is this teaser for?
I hear that Evelynn laugh!
: Potencial teaser for the other series for the comics
: New Karma's running animation is awesome but her two dress skins...
Ping Rornation on Twitter. He or someone else can fix it.
: Are Christmas chromas available year round?
: Be a sport and link this leak/teaser.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VXckYfsY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-08T06:39:47.792+0000) > > Be a sport and link this leak/teaser. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/tmf6cWnI-its-alive-on-pbe it was on the front page of the boards, like, yesterday
: Theory on chained champion
Well, if the IT'S ALIVE teaser/bug/thing holds any weight, I'm honestly wondering if it's some kind of Noxian-engineered abomination held captive (and experimented on?) by Demacia. Sion... but freakier.
: That which was broken, must be reforged. But is Riven who was broken? Or the ideals she thought she served?
> [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=yvXORgEy,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-12-07T22:19:19.882+0000) > > That which was broken, must be reforged. But is Riven who was broken? Or the ideals she thought she served? Both are broken. But both can heal. Swain, fortunately, might have the cure, because he's not as much of a jerk as Darkwill.
Moody P (NA)
: Volibear will not be armored in his VGU. Will he make his love for Zilean finally apparent?
: Excuse me Riot, but what is this?
I'm pretty sure it's gonna be the Championship Riven treatment.
: > [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y9UyER3H,comment-id=00900000,timestamp=2018-12-06T03:56:30.435+0000) > > I am specifically asking the mods to remove the legitimately trolling comments and accusations of vote manipulation, which I am *not* doing. Some of the trolls were also BRIGADING EVERY SINGLE COMMENT I MADE IN THIS DAMN THREAD. I mean... Yeah. > > So please quit the "echo chamber" stuff. There are several people who disagreed with me in a civilized manner and did not immediately attack me, and I'm fine with that. I've looked through the thread and there haven't been many troll comments, it's just that people don't agree with you. No one is brigading your comments, almost every single comment on this thread has gotten down votes and up votes. I'm just expressing my displeasure of how you handled legitimate comments arguing against your point. You've insulted people who tried to enter a constructive argument with you multiple times, you even did this in the thread calling for mods. I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to point out that it was extremely childish and toxic.
: OP I've read the thread and there's some things I agree with and some things I don't. Sadly, I don't really feel like entering a discussion with you on this subject because of your actions to be honest. It feels like you made this thread just to have an echo-chamber. Whenever someone didn't agree with your post you talked down on them and insulted them like telling some guy to go to The Donald. You even asked mods to delete and censor criticism against you. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/qswnmVr3-requesting-mod-assistance-on-my-most-recent-thread I know this thread is probably already dead but I just want to tell you one thing. **This isn't an attack towards you but please learn to accept criticism especially if you're criticizing something else.**
I am specifically asking the mods to remove the legitimately trolling comments and accusations of vote manipulation, which I am *not* doing. Some of the trolls were also BRIGADING EVERY SINGLE COMMENT I MADE IN THIS DAMN THREAD. I mean... Yeah. So please quit the "echo chamber" stuff. There are several people who disagreed with me in a civilized manner and did not immediately attack me, and I'm fine with that.
: Sees human with chameleon tail run on all four towards me. ,,Yeah there's still space for improvment in the blending in..."
That's the whole point. She's still figuring out how to blend in. Including talking properly and remembering to walk like a human :)
Rioter Comments
: What is something coming from Bilgewater called?
: Leona login screensaver
It will be added to League Displays at some point, and is already in Wallpaper Engine.
: I WISH WE COULD TURN OFF THE SNOW MAP
I'm pretty sure you might be able to turn it off; take a peek through the settings. There's probably a drop down menu or check box hidden in there.
DaisyLazy (EUW)
: That's the thing, I never really thought she was 19 once I saw that thing i copied in her trivia got me wondering, in fact putting the events from blood moon, wars, time she was left out of kinkou, bla bla all those, she has to be around at least 22, or at least I assumed that since it was never clear anywhere, but now with the K/DA information, it made me see it that she's indeed around that age, but 21 instead of 22, I never really saw her as 19 and can't say it would make sense based on time lines on other events, I know I get really deep into this, but I was reading lores and seriously got so curious to a point it was disturbing me haha, but a few people already made it clear for me up there that it does say "she's around 19" not meaning she is 19, and I was just stupid enough to assume that was what that meant rather than... "actually being around 19" aka 21
Blood Moon isn't canon.
DaisyLazy (EUW)
: Akali's real age
K/DA Akali is a separate universe so ages may vary from canon. Ahri is very probably older in canon than she is in K/DA, and well... Evelynn is Evelynn. So yeah, Akali is 19 in the canon universe, but 21 in K/DA.
: ***
OP checking in. Yes, I'm a normals player but that's beside the point. I simply give a flying fuck about different things than you do.
: Showerthought: It's going to be awkward as hell if Riot reworks a champ that shows up in the comics.
Actually I hope the Ashe comic leads into a visual update for her to make her outfit more lore-appropriate...
: > [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=qswnmVr3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T10:54:43.510+0000) > > Thank you. I did report some trolls and appreciate the advice, but it was getting out of hand already and I still feel I need staff assistance even without the gaggle of Kat mains. Yes, i agree quite a few comments can be deleted, but some of yours will be as well. Same with Jhins girlfriend and Trans Taliyah's. Hopefully it was not run off track enough that the mod just locks it. Its a nice post, same as some others have been, but due to people messaging eachother out of boredom for 2 pages or 3 is a bit excessive. Like if someone is talking about mario in the main post but then everyone is talking about star trek for the next 5 pages.... it gets locked. It stopped being about the main topic. We shall see what happens though.
And y'know what, that's fine. I'm not seeing any action whatsoever though.
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/Y9UyER3H-some-thoughts-on-more-dated-female-champions-from-a-girl For link to the post (for the mods so they dont have to go searching) ____ P.S. like i said there, it is best to press the report on troll comments and not to continue commenting back at them simply because you are bored, it generally is the reason threads get locked.
Thank you. I did report some trolls and appreciate the advice, but it was getting out of hand already and I still feel I need staff assistance even without the gaggle of Kat mains.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKàtKàtàrinà,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y9UyER3H,comment-id=004800010000,timestamp=2018-12-01T09:54:39.730+0000) > > Love your upvote in literally 3 seconds of posting that. ;) thanks for proving my point. > Aren't you getting upset about a fictional character showing skin? :o i think u should interact with women more.. in real life. it may be for your benefit. actually wait i wouldn't wish that on them
: What are the Navori Brotherhood?
They are an extremist nationalist group opposed to both Irelia and the Order of Shadows.
: Pleasantly surprised that this post is written how it is: it really felt like you were looking more towards the middle ground than some posts of similar topic that we see. You made some really great points ^^ On a side note, I'm also glad that > Because we can't relate to a character whose tits ARE her personality, can we? Did not end up being an attack on Sona {{champion:37}} (arguably among one the most famed girls for her bust in League of Legends). I certainly agree that some older designs feel a bit off in current times, but I also believe (as some others have said) that some champions do need to be rather sexualized because that is also a fantasy in itself that some people do enjoy*. I personally am not super well endowed in real life and, while in reality Sona's figure isn't what initially drove me to her as I do love her gameplay and lore and whatnot, I have also come to love that she gracefully seems to have a fitting busty figure that I will never have, if that makes any sense. :) *Not every "sexualized" champion necessarily needs to be along the lines of Evelynn, although she certainly fits a niche herself. Sometimes catering to everyone also involves having characters of all types, even if some may not be liked by certain groups. You dislike Urgot for example. I personally dislike Draven (shudder). Some people may really love Illaoi while others may really think Zoe is their favorite kind of champion to relate to. Good post overall! Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) {{sticker:sona-playing}}
Thank you! Haha, yep. I'm not gonna specifically attack Sona because there isn't an issue of "she should be wearing more armor to not get instantly gutted" or "why are there even boobs" - she's wearing a concert dress and thus it's more of her choice to show all that off, rather than it being crappy design. Her "combat" dress, as seen in the Ryze cinematic, is a little more functional - in that it won't fall off!
: Ya know, I’m curious. There are a bunch of very polar opinions here, I want to throw mine in here and see if it sparks a reaction, and if it does what it is. I personally view sexualizing women as a very bad thing. Yes they have those feelings, same as men, but like men it should not define them. So what is sexualizing a character? While the exact definition Varys by person, its easy enough to set guidelines on what biology triggers a sexual response: 1. Excessive showing of a sexual area of the body: breast, butt, V. 2. Euphemisms and cultural references that arouse the response. Not particularly grand deffinition, but a working one. I’m actually much more conservative than this but it’s what I’ll go with. So whenever someone makes the argument: “breast/Butt, etc is nature and beautiful and should be shown off”, they are either lying to themselves or to others. Those things may be beautiful, but they are triggering the sexual response, meaning that without real, meaningful connections (like years of a real life relationship), the brain is ignoring everything except “body, reproduce”. There is no admiration of beauty beyond sexual desire. It is the deffinition of objectification if a person reacts purely off of these emotions. As for the argument of hyper sensitivity, this is another either self lie or lying to others. Bodies are programmed with sexual pleasure as the number one natural reward system. Litterally everyone on the planet ia here because of how strong that system is. Claiming a person is “hypersensitive” is a loose attempt at trying to make the opposition seem rediculus. The reality is the differences person to person are minimal in this regard, the only difference is how badly one party wants to be told it’s okay to sexualizing women or devote excess amount of time to that part of their lives. I feel like I’ve got more, but just want to see if I get a response to this. Feeling a bit like a fisherman right now.
Thank you for being civilized. I am inclined to agree with at the very least that last opinion.
: I'm convinced the majority of people on this thread don't realize women play video games.
Papuga (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Azeranth,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y9UyER3H,comment-id=0024,timestamp=2018-12-01T00:32:31.593+0000) > > You're trolling me, right? Like seriously? "These characters aren't strippers, they shouldn't have these unreasonable expectations". Right, cause there are no male characters that play strongly into exaggerated masculine stereotypes, and capitalize upon societal pressure and expectation about what defines ideal or superior males. > > I mean, seriously. To start with, lets start with explicitly gorgeous males, to the point where it is a defining trait of their character. > * Ezreal > * Jayce > * Rakan > * Taric > Do you know how many female characters are explicitly defined by their beauty first and foremost? Evelynn. Thats it. Sort of Leblanc, maybe, I guess, but the implication there is that she uses her magic to trick and mislead the people she manipulates. > > Now lets continue, let mention male characters who are some representative of physique or fitness. > * Darius > * Draven > * Garen > * Xin Zhao > * Lee Sin > * Shen > * Jayce again > * Ezreal again > > Then lets look at male champions who embody something along the line of "Big strong protector" or "Who sacrifices for others" > * Galio > * Garen > * Jarvan > * Nautilus > * Shen > * Special note!! Yorrick is literally "The SHEPHERD Of Lost Souls" who has condemned himself to eternal suffering under a blood curse upon his home, simply to lead others to the beyond, so they may be spared his same horrendous fate. > > Then lets look at male champions who are defined by being the biggest baddest strongest conqueror. By being the peak predator. > * Darius > * Draven > * Swain > * Aatrox > * Jax > * Lee Sin > * Graves > * Tahm Kench and Twisted Fate, even though muscle isn't the way through which they take and conqueror in their bloody line of work > * Jayce > * Khazix > * Master Yi > * Ornn > * Shen > * Taric > * Udyr > * Yasuo > > I think you would be exceedingly hard pressed to find any champions, of either sex, which do not make extensive use of stereotypes about the sexes, and use these to form familiar narrative characters which are familiar, and draw from a plethora of cultural sources. > Except male stereotypes are more varied. Not to mention its hard to compare how male characters are treated vs how female characters are treated because the environment in which they are views is much different. > If you look at Miss Fortune and say "Her titties are big, and that is obviously the most definitive thing about her character." You're not only exceptionally stupid, perhaps even willfully and intentionally dumb in this case, you have to be an incredibly conceited and disrespectful prick to honestly believe that anyone else would hold such a significant weight upon someone's sexuality as to treat it like a defining characteristic of a participant in a grand tournament to the death. > Except it seems to be the focus of much of her splash art and skins. A number of her VO lines. > If you think "The cougar joke Nidalee has for a dance" is demeans her, because of its sexual nature, then that mean > 1. You think that Nidalee is defined in large part by her sexuality > 2. You're incapable of separating a character, who they are, what they do, and what they embody, and a cheeky joke left over from small indie company Riot Games, back when Nidalee also passively gave 5xp to lower level champions near her. Maybe you don't understand the cougar joke, but thats your ignorance. Dang dude, cool down there. I would like to point out one thing. Look at how many different types of 'ideal' male imagery you just show cased. It's much more varied then what we have with female Champions which is largely beautiful woman with large breasts. Maybe we'd like a bit more variaty in their design, to match the variaty in male Champion design.
: > [{quoted}](name=Evil Witch,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y9UyER3H,comment-id=003b,timestamp=2018-12-01T03:34:49.865+0000) > > But what about Tryndamere? he is literally shirtless lol His... rage burns so highly that he does not require clothing to ease the bite of the cold? I guess? Gragas and Braum are also shirtless Freljordians, but I guess the argument there is that their fat and muscles respectively provide insulation? lol
Actually yeah that would be the argument. You see all these memes about Russian people not giving a fuck about the cold. Yeah, that's Tryndamere at the very least. Gragas is... Gragas. He might be cold but he's so drunk you wouldn't know it! Braum may or may not be a demigod, so in addition to having some body fat, he's probably cold-resistant anyway. Ashe, meanwhile... do you see any body fat on her?
: But what about Tryndamere? he is literally shirtless lol
That might be a little much, but he's also ripped as fuck with a layer of... blubber? Sejuani might have that extra insulation too, but Ashe certainly does not, with that body type.
: Okay so I like the idea for the warmer clothing for ashe for sure but that blue pallet I think should be in there a bit more, more than likely in the bow. As for Cait holy hell yes please do that. She looks so much more badass and I think that bot audiences can appreciate that. She still looks sexy without being retarded in terms of clothing. Rember riot, less can be more if dont right. Janna....ehhhhhh..... like she is a elemental...she doesnt really need to worry about clothes... she deffeintly needs to get rid of her ice cream cone hair and stuff but I want something more flowing and sheir kinda like how you did with her hands and feet but with the ends of her clothing and I am thinking like a sheir cape maybe? That kinda twists and bends and she moves around. I think something in terms of the fit would be best if it was like a mesh tank dress in terms of form and build it up from there. Maybe add some silver ascents for attachments (like the cape). As for Leblanc yeah that is definitely an improvement and I really dont have much to stay it looks amazing! As for Syndra....ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........I honestly think the way she is already is fine. She looks powerful and dominating. That color scheme makes her look like she is some type of earth mage and I was replacing the colors in my head and to be honest the only thing I like is the finger armor. To be frank it looks like an alternate skin for Syndra...not like a new and improved just... different. It doesnt feel like it fits the Ionian free breathing type clothing for females either. Honestly it looks kinda restricting around the chest which well...isnt she kinda against restrictions? Like she knows she is very powerful and wants to get more power sooo why would someone so strong have a need for armor like that? They don't feel the need for it because they can destroy their opponent without having to worry about their body.
Yeah, my concept for Janna was that she's basically a cloud of magic shaped like a pretty woman, so her silhouette might give the imitation of shorter wind-blown hair and Zaunite-style clothing (a blouse and baggy pants) to reflect her worshippers. Syndra in some ways looks okay as is, but this VU would also be a way to distance her from her Mortal Kombat inspiration. IIRC the concept was drawn before the big Ionia update that came with Irelia, so some of it could certainly be adjusted to work with a modern Ionian aesthetic.
: I think this only would affect players 14 or younger and that's not really a problem to me.
I wish! Some of the comments in this thread might make you realize otherwise!
: I fucking love that Caitlyn design. Also, any chance we can make {{champion:113}} larger? Not Illaoi levels of buff, but having her be so tiny while riding a boar into battle in the bitter cold is really dumb.
: My two cents as a random dude: My favorite champion is Quinn. As many would agree, Quinn's artwork isn't geared towards sex appeal, hell, I've seen some make jokes about her being mistaken for a guy. Tried playing her once when she was on the free rotation, move set clicked near instantly for me, and her lore and character sealed the deal. I find her character the kind that you can't help but root for, a kind of under-dog, but also a story not unlike that of the every-man (or woman in this case) who faces adversity, and not through some super-natural abilities or enchanted artifacts, but through will and personal skill, rises above it. This is a kind of character that I can't help but love. Her being some normal girl with big dreams, in a small rural village, makes her a grounded character, someone that most people can, at some level or another, relate to. To see her face tragedy, in the death of her brother, and how she felt, how she dealt with the sorrow was made her more human, more so than many of the ostensibly human champions in the game. Also, she is but simple ranger, armed only with a repeating crossbow and an eagle, facing up against literal gods, demons, spirits, and demi-gods of battle. Something about her going up against all of that without some extra-ordinary gift or artifact just tickles my Imperial Guard bone, further endearing her to me. That's all I have to say in the matter.
Fellow Quinn appreciator, agree on all of it. I love her design even if her kit and animations need work.
: Same Rioter (Riot Hylia) did a Lux redesign like the Janna one up there, and even included skins and everything. She's less sexualised but also could use a update because if someone with boob plating lands on their chest, the metal from the stupid shape of it will dig into their chest and break the bones. Leona also suffers with that iirc. Also as a gay guy, aren't more macho champs appealing to gay guys than women anyway? Just adding that on top, if Riot wants to add a bit more sexualised guys for women, from my experience with a lot of friends, girls tend to like guys like Ezreal and Kayn rather than Taric and Braum (tho i do know one or two women who like them a bit). ~~We also have a shortage of twinks so rito needs to get on that boat.~~
I do like Hylia's Lux VU, and I hate the boob plate but that's an issue for another post tbh...
Papuga (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y9UyER3H,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-11-30T23:05:59.215+0000) > > Re: Janna - I'm visualizing a beautiful elflike woman with cloud-white skin and hair, and sky-blue eyes. And she isn't wearing clothes per se because her body's made of clouds and wind and magic, but it gives the silhouette of clothes, like a blouse and skirt. Perhaps make her silhouette androgenous since she isn't human after all.
Yeah, that's another thing I was thinking! Shorter hair and less obviously feminine because of the floaty, not-skin-tight "clothes."
: There is a point to consider when changing a visual. 1. Are there options available to all players or are you trying to cut out an entire portion of the base? I think to bring fairness to players, you should have two sets of visuals and voice overs that complement what you wanted to accentuate. I absolutely don't care at all about skimpy league characters and I generally don't play them, and when I do I certainly don't think about it like that. So if it's a question of restricting expression, I disagree. However, if you had two sets of visuals and voice overs that appealed even to the base skin to both parties of players, I would accept that. Condemning sexuality is just as frustrating a brigade as trying to shove tits in my face. I think both sides are out to lunch. Preserving the freedom to choose would be the best option. If you prefer a champ to be covered up and desexualized, you can play it that way, with that visual, and allow those that don't see it as a bad thing continue with their way of playing. I'm not condoning sexual assault, treating women as objects, or saying women are not allowed to look cool and nonsexual. Some of my favorite women champs are totally conforming to being gender neutral. That's just my two cents. Feel free to discuss ways in which you can implement your suggestions so that everyone can come to a feasible conclusion.
What you're talking about is traditional skins. I can see these being reintroduced for Ashe and Caitlyn, whose base appearances are iconic, and in a sense for Miss Fortune (swapping base and Captain, but updating the former base skin).
: Girl here, Honestly, I thought this was going to be a women’s right (some what annoying) post, but I read everything, and here’s my two cents: The way the most female champions have been visualized and dressed in this game has never really bothered me, except two: -the MF standard skin, bc first thing I thought was ‘how has her back not snapped in two?’ -the evelyn standard skin. ‘how did riot not get in trouble for this?’(felt very porn emphasized) But aside from that I would argue that for me, the sexy skins make me WANT to play the champions. Im very much the kind of person that likes to play the pretty characters. ( ive yet to play urgot bc of how nasty looking he is.) I realize that might sound shallow, but being secure with my own body, though not being thin myself, I get happy seeing these sexy, hot, pretty, and cute skins. My personal preferences aside though, Im all for making realistic skins for females, and when I saw the examples above, I thought it was a perfect balance of modest, but still super sexy. I understand how some girls might see the skins as offensive, but please keep in mind that some don’t. Some like them. Btw I do like how they made Illaoi a ‘bigger’ woman who is strong and not traditional thin. And her lines are awesome.
Agreed on loving Illaoi and disliking base MF. I see where you're coming from on the rest. I kind of give Evelynn a green card because she literally manifests herself as what her prey desires most, which usually looks like a drop-dead gorgeous woman, but I think the community agreed when her VGU came out that Riot might've gone a little too far on the nudity.
: LeBlanc is among the mini-VGU candidates is she not? Personally I hate her over all look, nothing about it seems too iconic not be changed. So I hope her visuals gets a pretty big overhaul. From the pointless cape, the makeup, and useless staff.
I'm pretty sure she's behind several other champs on that list, e.g. Blitz Jax Kennen
Terozu (NA)
: The problem with this is she has the ability to teleport. As well as the dexterity to throw 30 knives at 3 targets accurately while theyre moving and she's spinning. that's within 2.5 seconds, which is 12 knives a second. she wouldn't be able to do that with extra weight, and without the weight you're suggesting she can quickly react to any attacks which pretty much nullify the need for armor. Yeah if she was a knight or plain swordsman like Fiora or Leona, cover her up, but rogues need to wear as little as possible so they can move fluidly, the only part theyd cover up is their breast, and even then theyd wear as tight as clothing as possible so they can utilize it for more upper body momentum. Katarina's battle style is one in which she constantly moves, the enemy will never get a chance to strike her center mass, at best they'll nick a limb, and her limbs are armored for this very reason. Does it end up with her looking sexy? yes, but that's because in a straight fight a woman rogue wants to make herself as small and quick as possible, that often means wearing tight clothing if anything at all, tight clothing reveals the female form which many find sexy, rather than being forced its more like a sacrifice. and do NOT bring up skyrim or anything like that, their rogues dont do the shit kat does. SO AGAIN, at best extend her shirt, beyond that's she's fine, her limbs are armored as they should be, and her bust is utilised for momentum.
She can at least wear a tight-fitting leather tunic. > her bust is utilised for momentum ok that made me laugh sorry
: I do want to make a sweeping generalization about character designs in this game, though. By percentage regarding the demographic, there are more appealing male champions than female. There are also more revealing male champions than female. I'm not even sure if the concept of "Female appeal" even exists in this game. Disregarding the female champions that actually fit their setting, there aren't really that many sexualized female champions. Janna's some kind of wind fairy and Nidalee's a jungle girl, so their designs are about what you'd expect. I do like the idea of Ashe having more fur, but gotta keep in mind that is a spiritual successor of an ice queen or whatever who grew up in the frozen lands and uses ice magic. I wouldn't be surprised if she were completely resistent to the cold and ran around in a bikini. I know I would if I were in her position. I think that Caitlyn look is a step in the right direction but is too stiff for a professional sniper in Piltover. It reminds me too much of Vayne. The LB look is just...girthy. It has so much size and weight to it's look. That isn't to say that I dislike it, though. Just trim some of that flow and I think it'd be perfect. Surprisingly enough, I do not think that Syndra needs a redesign. She has always existed in her own space within the pool of champions, not just female. Her current design is extremely unique and any drastic changes would probably ease her closer to everyone else, which feels like a bad thing. As of now, her design just screams to me "Korean warlord bent on obtaining and utilizing ultimate power at all costs" and that's the way it should be. If any redesign should ever be considered, that quote needs to be kept in mind 100%. While I'm on this topic of champion redesigns, let's put Ahri, Diana, and Cass in, too. All three are outdated and need updates. Oh, and can we age Annie up already? I feel bad for enjoying the permabanning of a 5 year old.
Half the male champions are monsters or otherwise nonhuman. Taric, Braum, Varus, Aatrox, Kayn, Tryndamere < Syndra, Nidalee, Janna, Caitlyn, Ashe, Miss Fortune, Katarina, LeBlanc, Jinx, Evelynn, Ahri... the list goes on. Ahri is in need of visual work, but does not need the same level of upgrade as the champions I have listed. Same with Diana. I have other thoughts about Cassiopeia that don't belong anywhere near this post. Annie is 8. I'm going to go ahead and assume that is too old for your tastes.
: i dont know why people hate so much on caits Miniskirt i think it fits her and makes her outfit fun.i dont understand the logic that now that its normal for woman to wear pants that its now shameful to wear skirts of any kind
It's because she throws people to the ground on the regular. I don't think she can really do that in a strapless dress without a major wardrobe malfunction.
: I still think Caitlyn should look more like Nisha from Borderlands 2 (a little less western, but still similar to Nisha at least). http://pm1.narvii.com/5642/9f84ef1a93d9031db2d069c5f8fdff59570bcede_00.jpg
: discussions like this, in a way, remind me of all the news articles circling around, saying that Christmas _classics_ (Rudolph, Charlie Brown thanksgiving, baby it's cold outside) are inappropriate for 2018, since they are "racist, sexist, and "glorify rape". they've been around forever, but since nowadays people can't handle things or try to start issues over things that haven't been issues forever... If Riot saw issues with the characters, they'd change em. Personally I'd rather have a {{champion:82}} update before any of these mentioned, because I don't see an issue with them. just my opinion though. ~~let the hate comments flow.~~
I mean, yeah, I'd rather have a Mordekaiser update first - there's a reason I said "as soon as convenient," not "as soon as possible."
Haze97 (EUW)
: They better leave Kat out of this feminist ideal. I love her current character and definitely don't fap to her every night. The people over here start getting panic attacks at the slight sight of a cleavage.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, yeah, her cleavage makes her more likely to get a sword to the heart. There is another issue though. Forgive me for getting graphic, but I think I have to here: there is also the high likelihood of being slashed across her abdomen and being left down with guts spilling out.
: I mean, I want a lot of these champions updated for the mere fact that they look goofy and out of place in the current iteration of Runeterra but whether or not those champions seem overly sexualized is rather irrelevant. People have been asking for Caitlyn changes very similar to the concept you posted here for YEARS (I'm talking 2013/2014) - probably long before you ever started playing - and sexualization/feminist clap trap logic wasn't a factor whatsoever.
I'm coming from both points here. The champs are outdated, and their frankly ridiculous design gives them an extra reason why they should not be left as is.
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