: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZOd3bajV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:56:32.970+0000) > > Have you actually tried tower diving recently? I used to do it so much with the old towers, but the new ones two shot a bunch of junglers. Just because you got dove because you prob didn't back when was necessary doesn't mean the turrets need any of this stun/damage business the only thing I agree with is no more gold on the towers. What do you mean. The current meta is 4 man dive bot over and over again. And 3 man dive top over and over again. Turrets 2 hit you at level 1, maybe. But between letting a minion take Agro, and juggling the shit out of it between minions and players, turrets get maybe 3 shots total on a 4 man dive killing both botlaners.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZOd3bajV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T20:00:07.275+0000) > > What do you mean. The current meta is 4 man dive bot over and over again. And 3 man dive top over and over again. Turrets 2 hit you at level 1, maybe. But between letting a minion take Agro, and juggling the shit out of it between minions and players, turrets get maybe 3 shots total on a 4 man dive killing both botlaners. It's almost as if riot doesn't want to make turrets the end all be all, they are supposed to be safer areas, but they want the towers to be a second ally in a way, in a two vs three or four your going to lose. plus if u play well and focus the guy taking aggro it'll prob equal in a one for one
Infernape (EUW)
: Q - Winds of War COST 70/75/80/85/90 mana ⇒ 80/90/100/110/120 mana WINDBLAST DAMAGE 70/110/150/190/230 ⇒ 70/105/140/175/210 WINDBLAST RATIO 0.9 ability power ⇒ 0.75 ability power TORNADO RATIO 4% target's max health per 100 ability power ⇒ 2% target's max health per 100 ability power (base 6% max health damage unchanged) E - Justice Punch DAMAGE 100/130/160/190/220 ⇒ 80/115/150/185/220 And you have the Morello nerfs as well.
> [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vjGOeLlu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:58:09.007+0000) > > Q - Winds of War > COST 70/75/80/85/90 mana ⇒ 80/90/100/110/120 mana > WINDBLAST DAMAGE 70/110/150/190/230 ⇒ 70/105/140/175/210 > WINDBLAST RATIO 0.9 ability power ⇒ 0.75 ability power > TORNADO RATIO 4% target's max health per 100 ability power ⇒ 2% target's max health per 100 ability power (base 6% max health damage unchanged) > > E - Justice Punch > DAMAGE 100/130/160/190/220 ⇒ 80/115/150/185/220 > > And you have the Morello nerfs as well. where did you get these from? the patch notes? I havent checked them yet, thanks btw
Infernape (EUW)
: Q - Winds of War COST 70/75/80/85/90 mana ⇒ 80/90/100/110/120 mana WINDBLAST DAMAGE 70/110/150/190/230 ⇒ 70/105/140/175/210 WINDBLAST RATIO 0.9 ability power ⇒ 0.75 ability power TORNADO RATIO 4% target's max health per 100 ability power ⇒ 2% target's max health per 100 ability power (base 6% max health damage unchanged) E - Justice Punch DAMAGE 100/130/160/190/220 ⇒ 80/115/150/185/220 And you have the Morello nerfs as well.
> [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vjGOeLlu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:58:09.007+0000) > > Q - Winds of War > COST 70/75/80/85/90 mana ⇒ 80/90/100/110/120 mana > WINDBLAST DAMAGE 70/110/150/190/230 ⇒ 70/105/140/175/210 > WINDBLAST RATIO 0.9 ability power ⇒ 0.75 ability power > TORNADO RATIO 4% target's max health per 100 ability power ⇒ 2% target's max health per 100 ability power (base 6% max health damage unchanged) > > E - Justice Punch > DAMAGE 100/130/160/190/220 ⇒ 80/115/150/185/220 > > And you have the Morello nerfs as well. doesn't seem all too bad for me, remember he is supposed to be somewhat tanky, the guy half healths a bunch of people, i think it'll all turn out just fine
: How to actually make turrets a threat.
Have you actually tried tower diving recently? I used to do it so much with the old towers, but the new ones two shot a bunch of junglers. Just because you got dove because you prob didn't back when was necessary doesn't mean the turrets need any of this stun/damage business the only thing I agree with is no more gold on the towers.
GreyfellD (EUW)
: League is impossible to take seriously...
Have you never played triforce, stormrazer thresh? ranged champion are op op
: Dont allow Galio to be playable in ranked with those 5 big nerfs at the same time...
Wacky9 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQQxmfAO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:31:59.754+0000) > > Someone else did this already, and theirs was better... Who was that?
> [{quoted}](name=Wacky9,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQQxmfAO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:47:50.996+0000) > > Who was that? https://imgur.com/cpLNGc9
Wacky9 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQQxmfAO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:31:59.754+0000) > > Someone else did this already, and theirs was better... Who was that?
> [{quoted}](name=Wacky9,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oQQxmfAO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:47:50.996+0000) > > Who was that? one sec bb
BradNo (NA)
: It was more than that. Why you gotta be mean, wtf?
> [{quoted}](name=BradNo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Pdm7b6ac,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-01-23T19:41:55.480+0000) > > It was more than that. Why you gotta be mean, wtf? mean? fine rebuttle it, what did it say, no one likes a whiner, step up
codeaxp (EUNE)
: Change region
Go to the shop area, and where you change ur name and stuff, it should be there. also side not i think it costs something
: Rhaast Counters Aatrox?
Hey guys, I won a singular game, is this an good counter?
: Riot Games are so talented
: I appreciate the increase of wholesome board posts recently
Its because the mods delete everything, that's like saying Chinese internet is so nice to use... because half of it is missing
Wacky9 (NA)
: Which Champions Need New Skins?
Someone else did this already, and theirs was better...
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: New Support champion identity confirmed!
wait we're getting a support? didnt we just get one from pyke... I want another tank/bruiser
: Why do new supports feel like junglers? Can we have a new DECENT Healer / Shielder support?
If they ever hype up me up for a new champion, and it's a second nami im actually going to kill myself.
: So when is Conqueror getting removed?
Make it magic damage? ah and just let tanks become super meta and build a spirit visage...
: I'd like to point out that your math is wrong, 20% of 5000 is 1000, and that is the very reason Cho with Locket was so strong. He was running around and oneshotting adcs with his R and then giving his entire team 1200+ shields every fight.
> [{quoted}](name=Beast Brawler,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-01-23T10:22:24.392+0000) > > I'd like to point out that your math is wrong, 20% of 5000 is 1000, and that is the very reason Cho with Locket was so strong. He was running around and oneshotting adcs with his R and then giving his entire team 1200+ shields every fight. keepin yall on edge
: TBH this thread is stupid. If you havent already thought about doing this or picked up one or two of these items in game then idk where you have been for the past 6 months. Locket synergizes with bonus HP and tanks are known to build HP plus the double resistances feel good too. Or lets say your adc or mid are fed, pick up the knights vow and get a free win for peeling them and protecting them in this TEAM based game. Not to mention how cost effective knights is by itself and the cdr that you get from it is too good to pass up. Redemption? That one is a meh id say on tanks like maokai due to the fact you cant really synergize with the bonus healing and shielding to allies like other enchanters. But even on certain mids like lux, ori or karma you can run athenes
> [{quoted}](name=Iźuku Midoriya,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-01-23T03:50:13.588+0000) > > TBH this thread is stupid. If you havent already thought about doing this or picked up one or two of these items in game then idk where you have been for the past 6 months. Locket synergizes with bonus HP and tanks are known to build HP plus the double resistances feel good too. Or lets say your adc or mid are fed, pick up the knights vow and get a free win for peeling them and protecting them in this TEAM based game. Not to mention how cost effective knights is by itself and the cdr that you get from it is too good to pass up. > > Redemption? That one is a meh id say on tanks like maokai due to the fact you cant really synergize with the bonus healing and shielding to allies like other enchanters. > > But even on certain mids like lux, ori or karma you can run athenes I'm sorry alpha lord genius, my zero iq trash of a mind didn't think of it, my apologies sir, take my first child as a payment for making you lose brain cells
: Guys did the Thread Explode? There are missing Messages Kekeke
> [{quoted}](name=IPromiseTomorrow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=trwvolFc,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-23T03:01:07.714+0000) > > Guys did the Thread Explode? > There are missing Messages > Kekeke Mods goin sicko mode
: Everyone who thinks tanks are weak are so delusional.
> [{quoted}](name=Me Not Smart,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-01-23T02:48:14.833+0000) > > Everyone who thinks tanks are weak are so delusional. So tanks are strong, and are supposed to be meta, in meta where conqueror and last whisper exist? no bm just honestly curious
: It's not like gargoyle active locket shields were never a thing
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-01-23T01:41:41.793+0000) > > It's not like gargoyle active locket shields were never a thing does that not work anymore?
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=trwvolFc,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T20:09:36.583+0000) > > I know, poor 5'2 snowflakes can't handle my 6'5 alphaness Funnily enough, I am actually 6'5" but I'm as far from the "alpha male" fantasy as anyone could possibly be lol (nor do I understand that stuff, so yeah :\ )
> [{quoted}](name=TonyTonyMordecai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=trwvolFc,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T22:04:10.204+0000) > > Funnily enough, I am actually 6'5" but I'm as far from the "alpha male" fantasy as anyone could possibly be lol (nor do I understand that stuff, so yeah :\ ) its a t1 joke
: The cheaper defensive items will impact your survivability. It's why alistar gets damage reduction, Taric gets immunity, and Leona gets loads of resistances - so they can still be tanky despite having cheaper builds. A maokai with a support build is going to be a lot squishier than one with a top Lane build. Overall they may still be a lot stronger in the early-mid game by having more completed items - but it may not be worth the extra power if you happen to get to full build.
> [{quoted}](name=ValyrianBlade,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-01-22T19:51:31.803+0000) > > The cheaper defensive items will impact your survivability. It's why alistar gets damage reduction, Taric gets immunity, and Leona gets loads of resistances - so they can still be tanky despite having cheaper builds. > > A maokai with a support build is going to be a lot squishier than one with a top Lane build. > > Overall they may still be a lot stronger in the early-mid game by having more completed items - but it may not be worth the extra power if you happen to get to full build. seeing how short the games, I think this might be a good revive to tanks
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=trwvolFc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:57:03.095+0000) > > looks like someone got offended, downvoted everything in this post lmao, someone's insecure I mean... You're on the BETA Boards.
> [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=trwvolFc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-22T19:56:33.651+0000) > > I mean... You're on the BETA Boards. I know, poor 5'2 snowflakes can't handle my 6'5 alphaness
saltran (EUW)
: On my last {{champion:51}} game there was an {{champion:34}} trolling with {{item:3107}} lul, she was ahead of your plan {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} (Link https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3901081606/24439834 )
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-22T19:08:48.364+0000) > > On my last {{champion:51}} game there was an {{champion:34}} trolling with {{item:3107}} lul, she was ahead of your plan {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} > > > > > (Link https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3901081606/24439834 ) https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/025/375/ergeofgreat.jpg
: The Roadmap tells us about the future Reworks and new Champions. We will get more info on the Kayle and Morgana Reworks and hopefully some teasers for new champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Lordredstonenr1,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=J8tOzbOu,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:58:21.441+0000) > > The Roadmap tells us about the future Reworks and new Champions. > We will get more info on the Kayle and Morgana Reworks and hopefully some teasers for new champions. oh cool cool, and its hopefully going to come out this week? nice! I hope they touch some of the older champions
GigglesO (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:51:11.601+0000) > > Yeah that's what I was trying to convey, like no point in building items that dont even make you tanky enough for team fights so if they aren't even a good front line maybe some utility can help even out their kits Non-durability champions don't understand that tanks don't exist because they just die as fast as a regular non-tank... Why would I play one if there is nothing good to get out of them? "But CC, engage" Literally anyone that one shots can engage. There are alot of non-tanks that have cc. "But durability" That extra .25 seconds per item I purchase... oh boy exciting.
> [{quoted}](name=GigglesO,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:55:47.344+0000) > > Non-durability champions don't understand that tanks don't exist because they just die as fast as a regular non-tank... > > Why would I play one if there is nothing good to get out of them? > > "But CC, engage" > Literally anyone that one shots can engage. > There are alot of non-tanks that have cc. > > "But durability" > That extra .25 seconds per item I purchase... oh boy exciting. Yeah everyone always makes it seem like tanks into a battle siege-r, that starts the fight. If a talon uses ultimate and one shots the enemy adc/mid laner you best believe people are going to dive into a 5 vs 4 fight
: I'm saying it's not that simple, players are not bots, they are aware of your ult and engage, your 'q' hitbox, how to dodge it without dashes, they know who's cc to stop. Who to let through, who to focus. There is strategy to this game and Sion is too slow for this season, his cc, items and runes do not help this season. The runes and items are designed for other champions, not Sion, he scales with some items but it's not meant for him and doesn't work well on him this season. The items that @Alzon mentioned are not good on Sion, they scale but have very little effect because of how Sion is played. (Except locket, I always use it, zz rot sucks)
> [{quoted}](name=Karoloooo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Fh59wAEd,comment-id=000800000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:55:54.478+0000) > > I'm saying it's not that simple, players are not bots, they are aware of your ult and engage, your 'q' hitbox, how to dodge it without dashes, they know who's cc to stop. > There is strategy to this game and Sion is too slow for this season, his cc, items and runes do not help this season. > The runes and items are designed for other champion, not Sion, he scales with some items but it's not meant for him and doesn't work on him. So if everyone knows how to dodge, are you trying to imply that no one ever get's hit by abilities, I mean I must be a bot because I've been hit a couple of times
Khabith (NA)
: I feel extremely left out of this community...
looks like someone got offended, downvoted everything in this post lmao, someone's insecure
Tarquin96 (EUNE)
: Not a 15s cd but until you respawn
> [{quoted}](name=Tarquin96,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:54:25.294+0000) > > Not a 15s cd but until you respawn Riots always three steps ahead, lol
: AFAIK Locket/Knight's Vow both showed up regularly as a 3rd/4th/5th item for some tanks when they were played. It's not a bad thing to get.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:50:18.337+0000) > > AFAIK Locket/Knight's Vow both showed up regularly as a 3rd/4th/5th item for some tanks when they were played. It's not a bad thing to get. I learn something everyday, what season was that in, when I think of tanks I get fuzzy its been forever since a good tank has been out there besides sion, and he goes down as an abomination for his int era
GigglesO (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:09:08.183+0000) > > But wouldn't you be missing a great load of HP and armor? > The items may be decent, but i don't think they are close to items like {{item:3742}} or {{item:3001}} > > Honestly, I never thought about this before...while i'm no tank main, i do enjoy playing the class. > Might try it on Urgot, but i might be a bad idea (he's not a tank though, so maybe Ornn). You die through the damage anyways which is why almost noone is currently playing tank.
> [{quoted}](name=GigglesO,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:47:13.767+0000) > > You die through the damage anyways which is why almost noone is currently playing tank. Yeah that's what I was trying to convey, like no point in building items that dont even make you tanky enough for team fights so if they aren't even a good front line maybe some utility can help even out their kits
: It's not that simple.
How, try giving some meat to your rebuttle other than just saying no, I'm not talking to wall here, or am I?
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:38:32.703+0000) > > Same same, gotta try that out soon, did you play more support in early season 8? I use to main Sona support since season 7 (maybe 6 i don't remember) as well as Braum, I had to expand my roles because getting mid wasn't always possible, so i had to expand to Top and Support. I'm a Vel'Koz mid main in my primary, while Urgot Top as my secondary and Sona Support as my tertiary. I prefer her more than all supports really.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:44:40.676+0000) > > I use to main Sona support since season 7 (maybe 6 i don't remember) as well as Braum, I had to expand my roles because getting mid wasn't always possible, so i had to expand to Top and Support. > I'm a Vel'Koz mid main in my primary, while Urgot Top as my secondary and Sona Support as my tertiary. I prefer her more than all supports really. If you got autofilled as support, would you go velkoz or sona. I personally love thresh
: Roadmap hype?
Im hyped, because of the post, but I have no idea whats happening. Whats roadmap? and why are we so excited for it?
: Rewarding only if team cooperates.
How so, if there is a team fight, try to hit knock up's with your q's and try to land a nice ulti, this isn't rocket science, when people see sion charging into a team fight most players are gonna fight that fight
faure (NA)
: playing league in the era of no agency
Ain't gonna lie G, but I aint reading all that, but I skipped to the bottom and read the last sentence. and I think we can have a cheers on that one.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:11:16.356+0000) > > Well later game your usually dead for more than 15 seconds, so that's not horrible. but what if he buys it and is able to use it. Are they able to undo? im guessing not. Or is it seconds as in 15 seconds while being alive Idk really. I haven't used that items for a very long time. Maybe since early season 8.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:35:19.243+0000) > > Idk really. > I haven't used that items for a very long time. > Maybe since early season 8. Same same, gotta try that out soon, did you play more support in early season 8?
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:16:32.814+0000) > > Idk, something within is telling me that it could work, I mean I've predicted a decent amount in league, and utility tank just seems like a decent idea. Like a non-ap cho has no kill presence besides ulti, and support items give health, so once the cho gets gargoyles (Which is already cheap) and warmogs, I feel like anything with health seems up for grabs. Plus the shield would be amazing to give to an adc or something. Also something like zeke's convergence gives both armor and mr which is pretty solid This probably needs proper experimenting.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:34:16.391+0000) > > This probably needs proper experimenting. Yeah, im going to round up some friends to play with, I dont want to int in a norm game, We're so close to greatness lol
: New idea for junglers for riot
14 minutes, so that way junglers get into the game once laning phase is over, because laners keep complaining about ganks because they dont know how to ward
: zooming out
It would lead to everyone becoming better at macro, and it would suck out whatever little skill is used to play this game
: People like me and you (People who are 6'5 and above) need our own boards tbh
> [{quoted}](name=SamaHamra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=trwvolFc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:25:17.010+0000) > > People like me and you (People who are 6'5 and above) need our own boards tbh T1 T1 T1
: Sion in the "Awaken" cinematic!!
He is extremely fun and rewarding if you play him correctly, I would suggest watching tilterella if you want to see some great cheese strats with him
: So Many Playstyles Now Impossible
Life steal is useless, life steal implies that you dont get one shot, which is pretty sad tbh
: Used to be a shen main for so long before I just gave up since your q's to weak to farm under tower, but yah locket was a great 3 item a couple diamond streamers I watched would pick it up too and dont forget when pro games would have junglers buy{{item:3109}}
> [{quoted}](name=Brooks107,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:12:16.583+0000) > > Used to be a shen main for so long before I just gave up since your q's to weak to farm under tower, but yah locket was a great 3 item a couple diamond streamers I watched would pick it up too > and dont forget when pro games would have junglers buy{{item:3109}} I was thinking about adding that, especially for junglers who want to camp a lane. Also zeke's could be useful when your support is something like a pyke who goes lethality first. because I mean in a team fight it can be kinda hard to get that damage out there, so being able to slow and do damage though others could be useful for some of the lesser picks currently
King Lego (EUNE)
: But wouldn't you be missing a great load of HP and armor? The items may be decent, but i don't think they are close to items like {{item:3742}} or {{item:3001}} Honestly, I never thought about this before...while i'm no tank main, i do enjoy playing the class. Might try it on Urgot, but i might be a bad idea (he's not a tank though, so maybe Ornn).
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:09:08.183+0000) > > But wouldn't you be missing a great load of HP and armor? > The items may be decent, but i don't think they are close to items like {{item:3742}} or {{item:3001}} > > Honestly, I never thought about this before...while i'm no tank main, i do enjoy playing the class. > Might try it on Urgot, but i might be a bad idea (he's not a tank though, so maybe Ornn). Idk, something within is telling me that it could work, I mean I've predicted a decent amount in league, and utility tank just seems like a decent idea. Like a non-ap cho has no kill presence besides ulti, and support items give health, so once the cho gets gargoyles (Which is already cheap) and warmogs, I feel like anything with health seems up for grabs. Plus the shield would be amazing to give to an adc or something. Also something like zeke's convergence gives both armor and mr which is pretty solid
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SamaHamra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:00:39.419+0000) > > Seeing how most of them have no kill presense, might as well. Also I knew support items were cheap but I didnt know that those two were 2100/2200. I lowkey feel like trolling and buying redemption to ks kills while being dead. Wait. If im dead, and I sell an item buy redemption, can I use it? cause If i remember correctly you can use it while being dead. How does that work? Nope. It will have like a 15 second cooldown before being able to use it. Also, if you use redemption and sell it and buy it again, it will not reset. I tried it before.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7PdRRB3I,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:05:48.964+0000) > > Nope. > It will have like a 15 second cooldown before being able to use it. > > Also, if you use redemption and sell it and buy it again, it will not reset. > > I tried it before. Well later game your usually dead for more than 15 seconds, so that's not horrible. but what if he buys it and is able to use it. Are they able to undo? im guessing not. Or is it seconds as in 15 seconds while being alive
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