Kiokami (NA)
: hahah so im playing on an alt account
you know what, i don't care. im just gonna start doing it for shits and giggles. im gonna start going in to ranked, being nice, and then trolling everyone by subtly feeding, ignoring calls to group, and building wrong. and then when people get mad at me im just gonna report them. that's what this game is about nowadays anyway, so i might as well join in
Kiokami (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wbA1h5ia,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-02T18:28:48.695+0000) > > New accounts are treated more harshly than older accounts, as you have no history of good behavior to be lenient with. If youre toxic your first game, punishments start immediately. yeah fuck that that wasn't toxicity. that was frustration with an extremely obvious troll that made a game go from 20 mins long to 45 mins. i wasn't mad that people weren't doing well. my chat logs see me giving advice to other teammates, and just being mad about a fucking troll. thats the problem. this game is trash and weighs an arbitrary ever evolving term like "toxic" more than actual intent to ruin games for others by trolling. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS I DONT NEED IT EXPLAINED. YOU, RIOT, AND RIOT'S FANBASE NEEDS IT EXPLAINED THAT INTENTIONAL TROLLING IS WORSE. IM PUTTING IT IN CAPS NOT BECAUSE IM MAD BUT SO YOU SIT THERE FOR A SECOND, READ IT, AND REALIZE ITS NOT SO UNREASONABLE.
> [{quoted}](name=Kiokami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wbA1h5ia,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-02T18:31:15.598+0000) > > yeah fuck that that wasn't toxicity. that was frustration with an extremely obvious troll that made a game go from 20 mins long to 45 mins. i wasn't mad that people weren't doing well. my chat logs see me giving advice to other teammates, and just being mad about a fucking troll. thats the problem. this game is trash and weighs an arbitrary ever evolving term like "toxic" more than actual intent to ruin games for others by trolling. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS I DONT NEED IT EXPLAINED. YOU, RIOT, AND RIOT'S FANBASE NEEDS IT EXPLAINED THAT INTENTIONAL TROLLING IS WORSE. IM PUTTING IT IN CAPS NOT BECAUSE IM MAD BUT SO YOU SIT THERE FOR A SECOND, READ IT, AND REALIZE ITS NOT SO UNREASONABLE. CONTEXT ON THE WORD TOXIC'S EVOLUTION it started out by just being a massive prick right? cursing people out, raging over minor stuff etc. now, saying GGEZ is considered toxic. any kind of banter in game(smack talk when youre winning) is toxic. trolling a game still isn't toxic behavior, but getting mad at that troll sure is toxic behavior.
Pika Fox (NA)
: New accounts are treated more harshly than older accounts, as you have no history of good behavior to be lenient with. If youre toxic your first game, punishments start immediately.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wbA1h5ia,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-02T18:28:48.695+0000) > > New accounts are treated more harshly than older accounts, as you have no history of good behavior to be lenient with. If youre toxic your first game, punishments start immediately. yeah fuck that that wasn't toxicity. that was frustration with an extremely obvious troll that made a game go from 20 mins long to 45 mins. i wasn't mad that people weren't doing well. my chat logs see me giving advice to other teammates, and just being mad about a fucking troll. thats the problem. this game is trash and weighs an arbitrary ever evolving term like "toxic" more than actual intent to ruin games for others by trolling. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS I DONT NEED IT EXPLAINED. YOU, RIOT, AND RIOT'S FANBASE NEEDS IT EXPLAINED THAT INTENTIONAL TROLLING IS WORSE. IM PUTTING IT IN CAPS NOT BECAUSE IM MAD BUT SO YOU SIT THERE FOR A SECOND, READ IT, AND REALIZE ITS NOT SO UNREASONABLE.
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: My friend played with Hail of Blades {{champion:99}} with {{item:3124}} once, he easily carried us to victory. XDDDDD
> [{quoted}](name=EnergonVlada,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wbA1h5ia,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-02T18:26:08.690+0000) > > My friend played with Hail of Blades {{champion:99}} with {{item:3124}} once, he easily carried us to victory. XDDDDD this guy was very apparently trolling. mercurial, move speed boots, zzrot, and sunfire. and afk auto attacking jungle mobs.
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: Riot needs to know our wants, so lets voice them. Loud and proud m8
> [{quoted}](name=HypeLock99,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RzVnZjFr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-04-26T12:50:10.615+0000) > > Riot needs to know our wants, so lets voice them. Loud and proud m8 implying riot doesn't hide behind secret data for years before actually doing things we want, followed by 100 things we don't want.
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Sukishoo (NA)
: You mean 10 as we currently have 6 {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qeNIK7Mx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-27T01:23:11.623+0000) > > You mean 10 as we currently have 6 {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} i meant per team
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: Trying to help would have been "Lets try to focus on objectives." or "We are behind in farm lets try to focus" or even for your adc "Just farm, I will try to give ya cover." However saying "you can't farm" is rather insulting. It has far more to do with how you saying something then how you MIGHT have meant it.
> [{quoted}](name=Anomander,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kZEb33Yp,comment-id=00000000000100000001,timestamp=2017-04-25T22:07:00.682+0000) > > Trying to help would have been > > "Lets try to focus on objectives." > > or > > "We are behind in farm lets try to focus" > > or even for your adc > > "Just farm, I will try to give ya cover." > > However saying "you can't farm" is rather insulting. > > > It has far more to do with how you saying something then how you MIGHT have meant it. saying you can't farm is only insulting if it's untrue lol. 70 farm at 15 mins+ means that you are seriously missing 3 cs per wave. meaning you can't farm. meaning it's not demeaning it is an empirical fact gathered by riot's own scoreboard.
Zeurth (NA)
: I know, op is crazy.
> [{quoted}](name=RIP South Korea,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q24EEiMO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-04-25T23:51:17.979+0000) > > I know, op is crazy. guys i was being sarcasmo
: Good for you. What's the point of saying that? You're not their boss.
> [{quoted}](name=MissingKayo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kZEb33Yp,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-04-25T21:42:00.479+0000) > > Good for you. > What's the point of saying that? > You're not their boss. you know what you guys need to hear this. stop being wussies, it came from a place of me trying to help, and they instantly took it as toxicity.
Dokkaebi (EUNE)
: That's negative and breaks the summoners code. They propably know that they couldn't get a lot of farm. You don't need to tell that to them. You're the type of person that asks someone to stop feeding.
> [{quoted}](name=Sw4g3tti,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kZEb33Yp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-25T21:37:40.422+0000) > > That's negative and breaks the summoners code. They propably know that they couldn't get a lot of farm. You don't need to tell that to them. > You're the type of person that asks someone to stop feeding. no i watched them they just kept aaing mobs and not last hitting. you guys are LITERALLY SO SENSITIVE ITS INSANE. HOW CAN YOU FUNCTION IN THE REAL WORLD. PLEASE
: Or you could just not say it in a demeaning way. Pointing out how someone can't farm isn't going to magically make them CS better.
> [{quoted}](name=MissingKayo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kZEb33Yp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-25T21:35:18.474+0000) > > Or you could just not say it in a demeaning way. > Pointing out how someone can't farm isn't going to magically make them CS better. its demeaning to say "lol you guys can't farm"? its not like i said "what are you stupid" and i even said 20 seconds later you want to be at 50 farm at 10 minutes. you guys are literally just SO sensitive its ridiculous. how do you guys function in a workplace environment if what i said is considered demeaning? do you just automatically hate your boss when he tells you you're not performing up to his desired standards? should i sniff their throne and respectfully beg them while kissing their ring to try to cs better? let me tell you something. if i'm doing something shittily i want you to let me know. saying wow you guys cant farm lol is NOT demeaning. its literally a STATEMENT OF FACT at that point.
: I'd agree if everyone had this problem but that's clearly not the case. /mute all, don't type in chat. Toxicity problem solved.
> [{quoted}](name=Mecha MaIphite,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1b1zEJEK,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-25T21:24:30.267+0000) > > I'd agree if everyone had this problem but that's clearly not the case. > > /mute all, don't type in chat. Toxicity problem solved. why would i mute all? i dont have a problem with what they're saying. i have a problem with the fact that they REFUSE to surrender a game that is an OBVIOUS loss. and in the current state of the game, it doesnt take much for a game to be an OBVIOUS LOSS. jeez its like you didn't even read my post.
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: It happens nearly every time. I can never understand why people refuse to FF even in situations where its like 0-15 at 13 minutes. Its even more ridiculous when I'm sitting top AFK farming with the other toplaner and my teammates rage at me for not recalling to fight the 10-0 ADC.
> [{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1b1zEJEK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-25T20:58:36.545+0000) > > It happens nearly every time. I can never understand why people refuse to FF even in situations where its like 0-15 at 13 minutes. Its even more ridiculous when I'm sitting top AFK farming with the other toplaner and my teammates rage at me for not recalling to fight the 10-0 ADC. Eat fresh
: > you can bet your ass i get toxic when a game is an obvious stomp in the enemy's favor and my team refuses to surr. so basically you are the problem (in causing toxicity)
> [{quoted}](name=Mecha MaIphite,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1b1zEJEK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-25T21:03:59.857+0000) > > so basically you are the problem (in causing toxicity) no, the team refusing to surrender in an obvious stomp/loss is the cause of my toxicity. why do i want to be nice to people who are seriously wasting MORE of my time than needed? it's like getting stuck behind a guy going 35 in a 50 mp zone. sure, you'll still get to your destination, but that FUCK is making it take WAY longer than it has to.
: Yes, but to actually shut down her dmg, you either need: Atk speed slow (she can't weave AAs from passive as well anymore) Long CC (chained CC, long stun, Long snare) It's not that all Top laners don't have cc, it's that they don't have enough to deal with her effectively. Old Darius had an atk speed slow, and his E, making him good vs Riven. The lack of delay on his Q helped too, for instance. New Darius still has the E to disrupt her 3rd Q, but the other changes make it so Riven actually counters Darius in high elo. In regards to the rest of the top lane roster: {{champion:58}} Has a stun, but not enough for an extended trade. He's generally bad with extended trades, so that's intended. Not super good vs RIven. {{champion:114}} Riposte timing {{champion:41}} No hard cc {{champion:157}} Has CC, but it can't disrupt Riven's comboes. Has windwall to stop her R2nd cast, but she can just EW or Q through it, so... Riven counters Yas {{champion:39}} I don't really know Irelia well enough (I've never played her or seen her get fed). {{champion:68}} No CC {{champion:111}} Has a fk ton of CC, but gl winning trades against Riven without the jgler {{champion:57}} See Naut. Changes on PBE will make him considerably worse at laning. Which is great, I liked playing him jg more anyways {{champion:105}} The CC won't disrupt Riven's combo; his E will, if timed correctly. I'd say a skill matchup {{champion:240}} CC/displacement won't disrupt Riven's combo {{champion:85}} Kennen's a solid pick vs Riven, still has to play safe though. Whoever gets the lead first should win the matchup. {{champion:98}} See Naut, but he has less CC/Displacement than Naut/Mao {{champion:126}} The displacement won't disrupt RIven's combo {{champion:79}} Could be good, idk, don't really see him top {{champion:80}} I think he can beat RIven by just being Pantheon, but he gets outscaled {{champion:54}} Has a nice atk speed slow and nice armor, but no reliable CC to disrupt Riven combo (Basic abilities), Won't kill Riven without the jgler in most cases {{champion:24}} CC won't disrupt RIven's combo. E will dodge her passive-enhanced AAs though List goes on. Most things that have CC/displacement isn't instantaneous due to cast animations or other shenanigans. It has to have virtually no cast time to interrupt the quick combo keyboard mashing of Riven, OR needs to be from afar. Very few champions have access to either of those while being able to trade well with RIven. By instantaneous CC/displacement, you have: {{champion:122}} E {{champion:79}} W at point blank {{champion:127}} W and R {{champion:85}} Passive {{champion:31}} W I think can work. The W silence duration is long enough anyways. {{champion:1}} Passive {{champion:13}} Snare That stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=VulDread,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0MgNq5iT,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-25T06:40:46.474+0000) > > Yes, but to actually shut down her dmg, you either need: > > Atk speed slow (she can't weave AAs from passive as well anymore) > > Long CC (chained CC, long stun, Long snare) > > It's not that all Top laners don't have cc, it's that they don't have enough to deal with her effectively. > > Old Darius had an atk speed slow, and his E, making him good vs Riven. The lack of delay on his Q helped too, for instance. > > New Darius still has the E to disrupt her 3rd Q, but the other changes make it so Riven actually counters Darius in high elo. > > In regards to the rest of the top lane roster: > {{champion:58}} Has a stun, but not enough for an extended trade. He's generally bad with extended trades, so that's intended. Not super good vs RIven. > {{champion:114}} Riposte timing > {{champion:41}} No hard cc > {{champion:157}} Has CC, but it can't disrupt Riven's comboes. Has windwall to stop her R2nd cast, but she can just EW or Q through it, so... Riven counters Yas > {{champion:39}} I don't really know Irelia well enough (I've never played her or seen her get fed). > {{champion:68}} No CC > {{champion:111}} Has a fk ton of CC, but gl winning trades against Riven without the jgler > {{champion:57}} See Naut. Changes on PBE will make him considerably worse at laning. Which is great, I liked playing him jg more anyways > {{champion:105}} The CC won't disrupt Riven's combo; his E will, if timed correctly. I'd say a skill matchup > {{champion:240}} CC/displacement won't disrupt Riven's combo > {{champion:85}} Kennen's a solid pick vs Riven, still has to play safe though. Whoever gets the lead first should win the matchup. > {{champion:98}} See Naut, but he has less CC/Displacement than Naut/Mao > {{champion:126}} The displacement won't disrupt RIven's combo > {{champion:79}} Could be good, idk, don't really see him top > {{champion:80}} I think he can beat RIven by just being Pantheon, but he gets outscaled > {{champion:54}} Has a nice atk speed slow and nice armor, but no reliable CC to disrupt Riven combo (Basic abilities), Won't kill Riven without the jgler in most cases > {{champion:24}} CC won't disrupt RIven's combo. E will dodge her passive-enhanced AAs though > > > List goes on. > > Most things that have CC/displacement isn't instantaneous due to cast animations or other shenanigans. It has to have virtually no cast time to interrupt the quick combo keyboard mashing of Riven, OR needs to be from afar. Very few champions have access to either of those while being able to trade well with RIven. > > By instantaneous CC/displacement, you have: > {{champion:122}} E > {{champion:79}} W at point blank > {{champion:127}} W and R > {{champion:85}} Passive > {{champion:31}} W I think can work. The W silence duration is long enough anyways. > {{champion:1}} Passive > {{champion:13}} Snare > > That stuff. dude i dont know what you're talking about. a good 5 or 6 of the champs you listed are counters to riven all you have to do to beat riven soundly is bully her at lvl 1. once shes down to 70% hp she cant expect to duel you at ANY point. and if she's forced to back before you/without a kill, she's even MORE fucked.
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: Looking at your match history, I would ban Lux so you couldn't play her.
> [{quoted}](name=Michael702,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OJg1hEKj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-04-25T20:23:42.375+0000) > > Looking at your match history, I would ban Lux so you couldn't play her. also, banning lux would be retarded because i main bard.
: you can get two pages of runes for about 9000ip one being a base ad and base ap 9 ad reds, 3 as quints or 3 ad quints, 9 flat armor , 9 flat mr 9 magic pen reds, 3 ap quints, 9 flat armor 9 flat mr these are base generic pages that will work for 98% of champs and a good way to start while you build your ip and expand your rune page
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7ETPNv4U,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-25T20:20:45.088+0000) > > you can get two pages of runes for about 9000ip > > one being a base ad and base ap > > 9 ad reds, 3 as quints or 3 ad quints, 9 flat armor , 9 flat mr > 9 magic pen reds, 3 ap quints, 9 flat armor 9 flat mr > > these are base generic pages that will work for 98% of champs and a good way to start while you build your ip and expand your rune page YEAH two basic rune pages only cost 9k IP. nvm that a new champion costs 6300 ip. or 7$ if you're going for rp prices. so two BASIC rune pages that ensure that you don't have the shittiest most awful time in game is valued at $10( if it could be bought with rp) but no, you can't buy overpriced runes with rp anyway. riot wants to squeeze as much play time out of you as they can. 9 cdr glyphs costs 7200 ip alone. thats fucking insanity. hp quints cost 6150 for 3 this shit is stupidly overpriced, and unless you play this game every day for years with a solid w/l ratio, you will NEVER have all of the runes you could need/want and thats with the shit runes like death time removed.
: armor is CANCER
ARMOR is cancer? what about crit? literally RNG for 200% damage oh yeah and IE makes that 250% oh yeah and yas doubles crit oh yeah and adcs get like 4 armor pen items to choose from oh yeah and tanks were almost completely irrelevant for the last 2 seasons because of power creep
: Looking at your match history, I would ban Lux so you couldn't play her.
> [{quoted}](name=Michael702,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OJg1hEKj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-04-25T20:23:42.375+0000) > > Looking at your match history, I would ban Lux so you couldn't play her. oh wow you looked up a match history on an old account that hasn't been played in 6+ months. good on you my man. only reason i post from this account is because i like the name.
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Glîtchy (NA)
: Sometimes it's not so much the pinging itself, it's how people USE them, like the "?" on you when you die and were completely locked down (had this happen so many times, like wtf do you expect me todo while locked down?)
> [{quoted}](name=Lyseth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hb6I9qOu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-25T18:36:11.364+0000) > > Sometimes it's not so much the pinging itself, it's how people USE them, like the "?" on you when you die and were completely locked down (had this happen so many times, like wtf do you expect me todo while locked down?) eh, i just ignore it. either they get bored and stop, or they get increasingly pissed and start being toxic in chat which is reportable.
: I only read your first line of text and I disagree with you. I am personally one that wants the ability to mute pings, but that doesn't mean I want to do it from every single player in every single game. Pings are important for communication and muting all every game is stupid. I strongly doubt anyone here wants to do that. However, when one person is tilted and continuously spams the missing ping on people with no consequences, yes I want the ability to mute that. The other 3 people can still freely use their pings to communicate.
> [{quoted}](name=Fuh Queue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hb6I9qOu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-25T18:36:06.470+0000) > > I only read your first line of text and I disagree with you. I am personally one that wants the ability to mute pings, but that doesn't mean I want to do it from every single player in every single game. Pings are important for communication and muting all every game is stupid. I strongly doubt anyone here wants to do that. > > However, when one person is tilted and continuously spams the missing ping on people with no consequences, yes I want the ability to mute that. The other 3 people can still freely use their pings to communicate. i'll do you the same honor and read only your first line. i disagree with you disagreeing with me, because you do not speak for the 100m daily logins this game gets. there is always a risk someone would come into the game with chat and pings muted across the board. even if it only happens 1 out of 10 times, that's too many.
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: Buy the cheap champs with IP so this DOESN'T happen to you.
> [{quoted}](name=RenownedWheat42,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x5W4VHi0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-25T18:26:55.268+0000) > > Buy the cheap champs with IP so this DOESN'T happen to you. hindsight is 20/20 amirite thx riot for jewing me out of the equivalent of $3 to give me 3 champs worth less than 2$ combined
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: Really? In the last 4-5 months, I've opened maybe 15 chests and gotten 2 legendary skins, one ultimate skin, and I believe 2 gemstones.
> [{quoted}](name=YoungSirJ0ey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x5W4VHi0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-25T18:20:16.075+0000) > > Really? In the last 4-5 months, I've opened maybe 15 chests and gotten 2 legendary skins, one ultimate skin, and I believe 2 gemstones. LUCKY.
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: Could LoL ever have a 3-team game mode?
> [{quoted}](name=Milodic Mellodi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HXXkIZlT,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-04-24T19:42:18.935+0000) > > Imagine the possibilities. 3 teams of 3, fighting on a map catered to the game mode. 2 allies and 6 opponents, but with 3 of those opponents also opponents to the other 3. It'd be along the same levels of craziness as URF, without destroying the game's mechanics! > Hell, Dominion's map shape would be perfect for a 3-team brawl, and Dominion's gameplay style adds up well with the competitiveness of a 3-team match. In a map where taking objectives and kills is everything, having an additional team pit against both you AND your opponent would make for an awesome match. > Team up to take down powerful opponents, only to turn on them to further your own kill count. Not only that, but being able to go against 6 opponents would allow you to get a Hexakill, so the introduction of such a mode would allow for the Hexakill game mode to spread its horizons. Hopefully Riot takes it up one day. no because riot only cares about SR see ARAM(and its 10 champ smurf problem), Twisted Treeline, and Dominion for examples.
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: Call of Duty is going back in time
> [{quoted}](name=xSymbolism,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=bfU0h3Qf,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-04-25T02:34:20.436+0000) > > https://www.callofduty.com/wwii > > Will CoD go back to its roots? who cares because cod is the most casual shooter on the market. anyone can be good at that game in a week or two. rainbow six: siege and BF1 are light years better and more realistic than cod has EVER been
NotSid (NA)
: Don't go to KFC and just say "I want a bucket of chicken"
your fault for working at kfc. get a better job where you dont have to deal with stupid as fuck people and this is no longer a problem.
: I can't wait to face Maokai in ARAM
you guys will never get laid with garbage puns like that.
: "LOL ARE YOU PLAYING FLEX QUE SERIOUSLY?"
i play bard top to win. usually do unless i get another ranged top/darius
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: AP bard op
> [{quoted}](name=PureSilvrr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GEcv7Wd2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-25T00:20:44.392+0000) > > AP bard op i personally believe anything other than full on utility tank bard is a bad idea. {{item:3025}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3117}} {{item:3102}} {{item:2045}} is my go to set almost every game, maybe 2 mr items late game if enemy is ap heavy. you literally don't die, do decent damage against squishy mids/adcs, and can sit there and stun/ccbot all day if your aim's good.
: I hate when people spam KS after they've exhausted all their abilities and summoners and have literally no way of getting that kill, so you secure it anyway. Me getting the kill gold and whoever I'm helping getting the assist still puts them ahead by quite a bit of gold and gives them the opportunity to push their lane in. It also makes me stronger next time I help them out.
> [{quoted}](name=RenownedWheat42,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GEcv7Wd2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-25T00:23:07.555+0000) > > I hate when people spam KS after they've exhausted all their abilities and summoners and have literally no way of getting that kill, so you secure it anyway. > > Me getting the kill gold and whoever I'm helping getting the assist still puts them ahead by quite a bit of gold and gives them the opportunity to push their lane in. It also makes me stronger next time I help them out. people cry about KS because they think its like cod where they get nothing if they dont get the kill. you get plenty, it's just about how you look at it. get 5-10 farm while enemy is coming back to lane(15 farm is one kill) you get the option to roam and help snowball others too. i honestly think the biggest problem is that E$ports only covers the $ickplay$ by carry positions. you don't see a support going 1/5/30 getting nearly as much credit as the carries who got all of their kills and snowballs thanks to outside help
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: Tell everyone how to beat your main.
{{champion:432}} idk honestly, because if bard is doing extremely well, you're going to be very hard pressed to beat him unless you're an outrageously fed carry. i guess he doesn't hang well against ranged supports like karma, lux, or lulu. braum and yas can also counter him hard if theyre smart about blocking his q he gets away from almost everything thanks to meeps, gaunt, chimes, and magical journey though basically have to fuck the rest of his team beyond any hope of winning to beat a good bard.
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