: I've played her a fair amount from release to current and I don't think she's braindead at all, mainly because she's a terrible teamfighter. You really have to be on the ball with her to win games consistently. I'm personally pretty bad with her, though I do find her fun to play sometimes. I prefer champs that don't have to be fed to have a mid-late game. She's too feast or famine to be a braindead (aka reactive playstyle) champion. She's probably one of the worst champs you can get on ARAM, followed by Tryndamere and Udyr.
Well there's your problem right there. You're thinking too hard and thinking she's a teamfight champion. She's a braindead rush in to nearest squishy pointclick them from range to get the kill champion. Stop thinking so hard and you'll win games with her.
: god tier wont be nerfed :3
: Quinn is really not braindead, she just scales hard on her opponent's carelessness and lack of awareness. Her teamfighting ability is sub-par at best, so unless she secures a lead or pushes objectives constantly she'll fall behind. She's among the least played champs in the game, so you most likely ran into a main.
As someone who played Quinn before rework from release, to rework w/ 200k mastery I can tell you that Quinn is a braindead champion. Also I haven't played against a Quinn in awhile.
PB4UAME (NA)
: But Galio only gets DR during W, and for allies during his ult. He has it up far less than Rammus has his armor, so Rammus ends up gets more total mitigation by far than Galio does with his %DR.
Doesn't matter that Rammus can activate his thing a few times a fight. Reason being teamfights only last a few seconds.
Jamaree (NA)
: Not gonna show where she has a less then 1% win rate as well? Ok then.
It's above 53% for everywhere Also is there an easier way to post screen shots man... Light Shot sucks nowadays ....
Rylalei (EUNE)
: How to counter pick Nocturne 101
It used to be that you would take a screen shot with light shot, open it, open the image in a new tab, then paste the URL to whatever form. Now the new tab image has this super ridiculous long URL and you can't do that anymore tho... Anyone know why? http://prntscr.com/k94ijs
Rioter Comments
: Some Kog buffs to make him viable again that are reasonable without breaking him...
Grounded would be really nice. Maybe increase his R base damages a bit.
Pika Fox (NA)
: It really doesnt work out that way, given her burst is, again, delayed and backloaded, as well as her not really having access to reset bursts like she currently does. She needs time to actually stay in the area and wait to function.
From what I have seen the burst is not delayed or backloaded. This is from watching those youtubers delete people instantly at specific item points and levels.
: > [{quoted}](name=KoKoboto,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=263jBr2d,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-07-20T18:03:49.282+0000) > > Yes what was it then? ;) {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
PB4UAME (NA)
: And Rammus has the stongest armor steroid in the game and armor scalings.
The thing only is normal damage reduction is better than armor or magic resist. There's armor penetration and all that but there's no damage reduction penetration. If you catch my drift.
Loborcs (EUW)
: Let's talk about maps
TB Skyen has one
: Why does turret health decrease with each tier?
Not to mention the way turrets resist scale with a certain time in game or when the previous turret decreases. So after you take that first turret the next turret has less health AND less resists. (Unless they changed that, I don't have the same kinda passion for this game anymore to follow up with everything as well)
Glîtchy (NA)
: Anyone else think Zoe is just BEYOND irritating?
I hate her. Like in her lore she destroyed people homes just cause. Her predecessor Myisha seems evil.
: Can't say how many potions i got
Wrong board, I think but this needs to be changed. The refillable potion is even worse for me.
: She isn't even in the live game to be nerfed to begin with...
They test nerfs on the PBE. I think they should test some nerfs on her before she's released.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Her shroud isnt really a fighter ability. It fits much more into the theme of an assassin than a fighter, as assassins have stealth. I dont think any non assassin/assassin subclass champ has stealth. Its also pretty much required for her to work. She has less inherent mobility than other assassins and her damage is in her passive. Her burst is also much more backloaded as opposed to frontloaded (passive triggers, second R activation), so she needs time to sit there and wait for her things to proc.
I said it touches the toes of fighters in OP by giving her an extended amount of pressure when compared to other assassins. This tied with the fact she has access to burst to make her too strong in my opinion. When any other assassin tries to engage into a fight their pressure is directed onto one enemy, that enemy only has to deal with the pressure in whatever time gap that assassins tools has. Akali on the other hand has her shroud which gives her a ton of pressure and the ability to continuously deal out damage where other assassins would have slowed down to reset. I supposed she could be compared to Katarina or Kha'Zix in that regard but they don't have the same kind of safety Akali has in her shroud and do not exert the same amount of control of an area.
Göwen (EUW)
: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGJljjWx5CCW1GXEvLJO_fP7lHT68ISAMi-g6Swqu_iBeQRShe
Wait we need this. The Blitzcrank one doesn't quite cut it imo, we need the hand gun over the chin
: MR and Armor difference is [EDITED BY MODERATION].
Mmmm.... Galio has built in damage reduction tho. J/S But yeah the consistent DPS from AD is pretty rough. Cassiopeia, Ryze, Vel'Koz... could probably match kinda
Pika Fox (NA)
: Again, shes extremely short range with limited access to mobility. Her damage isnt absurd outside of the vacuum.
As I said in OP. Her shroud makes her dip into the role of a fighter. In that fighters can exert a continuous amount of pressure on the enemy due to their abilties. Akali's shroud allows her to be moderately safe and continue to pressure the enemy. The shroud also encompasses a large AoE meaning she in those teamfights she can get around easier and more often than other assassins who rely on one big gap close or ability. I have not been complaining about her damage. I talking about that in the OP. I believe however that her target access is too strong because of her shroud.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Doesnt work well for balance. Theres only so much sample size they can do, and theres a ton of interactions they likely didnt think of that get used d1 on live.
They don't need a ton of interactions. They only need damage and numbers because that is what Akali is. She's an assassins, they have to balance her around target access and damage. You can just watch her damage output to realize that she's a bit too strong when coupled with her target access. They don't need a huge sample size, they only need that to see if she feels fun to play. I'm not talking about how she feels to play tho, I'm talking about whether or not she is balanced. Currently, I think she's not. If we're talking about itemization that still is damage and numbers. Not a skill thing. So having a huge amount of players doesn't matter. Take Aatrox for example. They tested him, the PBE said he felt like trash or was overpowered. So they buffed him, lo and behold he comes out overpowered. If they just released him as normal, as they have tested it by themselves, he wouldn't have been overpowered on release. Akali is the same except she is too strong. Here I would say what I said in OP.
: > [{quoted}](name=KoKoboto,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=263jBr2d,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-19T23:13:49.539+0000) > > Downvoted because I don't like Fiora did you get the joke at the end then?
Pika Fox (NA)
: Not how that works. Riot could test a champion for 3 years and get nowhere near the data of an hour of live public release.
That's true but that doesn't deny the fact that there are a lot more diamonds at Rito. They will for sure have more testing from high level players than they will be taking people from the PBE.
: Star Guardian Fiora
Downvoted because I don't like Fiora
Pika Fox (NA)
: Its really not enough. People on PBE have massive ping, play champions they have no idea what they do to play new and fun things, and are varied too highly in skill level. Its not enough to tell how good or bad a champion is. Also, akali is an assassin, of course when everything goes right shes going to have damage. Thats what assassins do.
It really is enough. Riot themselves have been playtesting it. They have diamonds going up against diamonds. Watching high-level players go against most likely worse players reveals enough. Akali has the burst to kill a champion, dodging (which is a skill thing) doesn't matter really. She has the damage to kill, she has the numbers to kill. Skill or whatever doesn't matter in this assessment. Also, Akali has things that are pretty difficult to dodge or miss in general. So looking at her numbers isn't difficult. Dodging is a skill, numbers aren't. So, after watching Akali kill with specific items and levels I can confidently say she's a bit too strong. Here I would repeat what I said in OP.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Judging off clickbait PBE isnt a real argument. Until shes been on live at least 1 week theres no feasible balance claims you can make.
Watching just watch merits enough if you ask me. Seeing her damage at certain levels/items/ and all that.
: Meanwhile, {{champion:91}}
Well Talon goes into the first category I mentioned
: {{champion:84}} is going to be released incredibly weak like {{champion:516}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:266}} and will be badly in need of buffs to be made viable.
That's better than being OP if you ask me
Rioter Comments
: Whats up with the people in Runeterra putting baddies in wells ¿
: Well, so far in recent memory there's only been one leak that was true: [https://dotesports-cdn-prod-tqgiyve.stackpathdns.com/thumbor/_qhdfurrAJqjT4u8C8R9LptVO8s=/900x0/filters:no_upscale()/https://dotesports-cdn-prod-tqgiyve.stackpathdns.com/article/8d77446e-2275-453e-a04a-6f8dc6609124.png](https://dotesports-cdn-prod-tqgiyve.stackpathdns.com/thumbor/_qhdfurrAJqjT4u8C8R9LptVO8s=/900x0/filters:no_upscale()/https://dotesports-cdn-prod-tqgiyve.stackpathdns.com/article/8d77446e-2275-453e-a04a-6f8dc6609124.png) If this one is, then I'm excited that Quinn gets a new skin, not sure if I really like that theme though :/ Would've preferred like Project or (my personal idea) a Wild West theme.
I really don't wanna see Quinn in another mini-skirt
Vilvio (NA)
: Make Akali more thicc
Not every female or male is ##THICC unfortunately. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
Evangele (NA)
: {{champion:267}} Hm, I was the one who did the ban, I can see where there was a miscommunication. Proper punctuation is a hell of a drug. Apologies for......misreading, but I would suggest better formatting in the future to avoid such a thing. You can tell your friend (or if this is your smurf account) that the account will be available to post again in 1 hour. For future reference, you or your friend can reach us on the Discuss the Boards subboard or on our Moderation Discord if you feel an error has been made as this topic is not suitable for this subboard :) https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification
Thanks! =^) If you look at his board profile this player has been boarding for years. And if you look at the kind of posts they typically make you will find that a comment like that is very much out of character. Err... well... kinda out of character ehehe...
Rioter Comments
Nergle (NA)
: Please look at Diana
Diana definitely needs a bit of a rework. When she's ahead she's as cancerous as Akali with a point click combo. She doesn't NEED to land Q first to one shot with a double R. She can just R->W->Q and that'll get the job done. She by no means needs buffs. What she does need is a small rework.
Eternäl (NA)
: Riot, please let your female champs be muscular
: Can we bring back the stopwatch meta?
Stop watch meta wasn't even that bad imo. That play in Korea was insane skill but it's only one time for the whole game so. ######And if we're worried about one play deciding the whole game we should be looking at the snowball meta
Enjy (NA)
: Akali looks broken and all, but why the fuck is the [Press Shift] thing back?
Yeah I hate it. Hopefully it's a toggle in the setting or something. I don't wanna be pressing a button just to read the abiliteisieiseis
: I think Blood Moon Akali Splash is a step down from her previous one
I'm guessing OP is attached to the background more. Where this one is different? I like both and I lean a bit more towards the new one.
: everyone really hates noxus in this game, except noxians... hell even the darkin seem to target them first.
Even Noxians aren't always buddy buddy with each other. A lot of scheming goes on over there.
: Akali(reworked) is definitely going to be the new Yasuo
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Akali Leak
Hey y'all. I just want to say that this is the Story, Art, & Sound board btw. Should bring gameplay to gameplay C:
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Akali New Splash Art
A bit lacking on the side boob. I don't play Akali tho so idk if those people care. Definitely gonna be playing more with the cool rework tho.
Rioter Comments
Antenora (EUW)
: Seriously giving Akali TRUE stealth?
RIP to Prof Akali leaking this
: That's actually genius, but it'd probably only work once or twice before your opponent figures it out
You might be able to move around the bushes near mid entirely unseen.
Rioter Comments
: Ivern is the perfect example of going back to the ROOTS (Pun intended) of league of legends
Yeah I really REALLY love Ivern's gameplay mechanics. I just have no love at all for his story side and thus can't bring myself to play him which sucks.
: Conquerer from 10-35 ad to 6-35 ad
Conq is pretty strong in lane because you get a free longsword worth of stats and it's a lot of pressure on the enemy laner. Idk about Conqueror balance tho personally. I feel there are more issues in the game that cause tanks to be weak, conqueror isn't the only problem.
: @Meddler Elise is currently sitting at a 46% winrate and 2.5% pickrate after buffs
Elise can never be a good champion with number changes because her kit is too powerful on its own.
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