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: > [{quoted}](name=Kr1sys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=0022000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-25T02:55:47.523+0000) > > This is probably why there are people actually arguing that she's perfectly fine the way she is. E does damage. It also amplifies her next ability or attack. So you sit back, hit the CC, which on hit is delayed and THEN lasts two seconds. > > Full build (That's a 2k combo): https://youtu.be/f-mgrA1WFmU Oh shit...{{champion:134}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:45}} we have no other burst mage known for slamming people off of hit confirms. It's just this one.
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=00220000000000000001,timestamp=2017-11-25T16:27:51.622+0000) > > Oh shit...{{champion:134}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:45}} we have no other burst mage known for slamming people off of hit confirms. It's just this one. And how many of those champs you listed needed either their full combo and/or their ultimate on a long timer to boop someone? Zoe doesn't. All of her abilities were back up a couple seconds later to rinse/repeat.
Knalxz (NA)
: I thought it only amped damage when it was popped?
> [{quoted}](name=Knalxz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=002200000000,timestamp=2017-11-25T02:46:10.965+0000) > > I thought it only amped damage when it was popped? This is probably why there are people actually arguing that she's perfectly fine the way she is. E does damage. It also amplifies her next ability or attack. So you sit back, hit the CC, which on hit is delayed and THEN lasts two seconds. Full build (That's a 2k combo): https://youtu.be/f-mgrA1WFmU
: > [{quoted}](name=Kr1sys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-24T00:50:07.334+0000) > > {{champion:142}} > [{quoted}](name=Kr1sys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-24T00:50:07.334+0000) > > {{champion:142}} > [{quoted}](name=Kr1sys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-24T00:50:07.334+0000) > > {{champion:142}} Think Zoe is cancer, but honestly not getting the comparison or any slight hint at what you're getting at. Downvoted and moving on.
> [{quoted}](name=LesVitesses,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ORlilLgq,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2017-11-24T11:44:34.065+0000) > > Think Zoe is cancer, but honestly not getting the comparison or any slight hint at what you're getting at. > > > Downvoted and moving on. Same
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Kr1sys (NA)
: How it feels leveling up and owning all champions
oh boy, i leveld up and got to shard 3 more champs, why aren't ya just giving me the BE instead?
: You didn't blur out the summoner's names, where is boards moderation lmao...
> [{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1xvh9InW,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2017-11-19T13:50:55.164+0000) > > You didn't blur out the summoner's names, where is boards moderation lmao... Super challenging to just go to op.gg and see who they are anyways right
: How can we make this system (AFKF) full proof? Suggestions would be nice 👍 I was thinking maybe players with a pregame wait time shouldn't be allowed to duo with others this can solve most the problem Also giving pregame timers after your first afk not the second would make this a sturdier system
: Its a normal game that uses your normal game MMR. This is nothing new and hasn't been changed since the game started. You could be Challenger in solo/duo and have an MMR of 800 for normals (low bronze).
> [{quoted}](name=My Waifu Vanilla,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1xvh9InW,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2017-11-19T05:38:29.563+0000) > > Its a normal game that uses your normal game MMR. This is nothing new and hasn't been changed since the game started. You could be Challenger in solo/duo and have an MMR of 800 for normals (low bronze). so what's the level 23 doing on my team?
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: Who cares about normal games.. Rank doesn't play a role in matchmaking here, it's all about matchmaking rating. If a low level player is overperforming and is on a solid 80%+ it makes perfect sense for him to be in this match.
> [{quoted}](name=RemarkableIdo,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1xvh9InW,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-11-18T21:26:45.762+0000) > > Who cares about normal games.. That sort of logic is the problem. It's still a valid matchmade game mode, and should still adhere to a system, and in this case it wasn't.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: It feels like normal matchmaking allways does this. I actually find normals harder than ranked because normal matchmaking wont let me win.
> [{quoted}](name=FireDrizzle,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1xvh9InW,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-11-18T20:22:51.203+0000) > > It feels like normal matchmaking allways does this. I actually find normals harder than ranked because normal matchmaking wont let me win. The normals algorithm feels really fucked. I've had games where I've been on the opposite side, but more often than not I'm playing up against some plats/diamonds and paired up with some low(er) elo people.
: I love that one of the players isn't even level 30 lol
> [{quoted}](name=Wildebeast18,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1xvh9InW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-18T19:00:01.206+0000) > > I love that one of the players isn't even level 30 lol Don't worry, I think Riot really thought we'd win that one!
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Sunibee (NA)
: The Absolute most annoying part of Shaco and Teemo
No one talks about it because their ults or parts of their kits are also completely negated by those items you speak of. Other champions, you build to bolster defenses to mitigate opposing kits, but not negate them. Trinket is free, ward is 75g. It's a small price to negate someone's kit.
: Can we get a DPS AP jungle, So we can stop playing Amumu
: Does anyone else miss when skins used to mean something?
People still care about skins, what the hell are you talking about.
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Elohaven (NA)
: Is it just me or is Silver V to IV worse than Bronze I and II?
Can be pretty likely. Those at Silver 4 or 5 are players that are just really friggen bad and haven't chunked their MMR or lost enough games to actually demote. B1 or 2 are players that are still pretty bad, but have managed to climb up to the higher end of their tier.
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: Catch-Up Experience and Jungle Changes in 7.22
I liked everything until you said jungle camps are worth the same creep score. That's a stupid change. Tracking creep score from the jungler early can give a lot of intel on what's available to take when they expose themselves early and you don't have the resources to scout or ward their jungle yet.
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: I think the fun flipside of this is that if SR games are lasting the same duration as ARAM games, then SR games are too short. But that's not really news.
> [{quoted}](name=ForeverLaxx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1Wb21EQE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-09-05T01:21:36.009+0000) > > I think the fun flipside of this is that if SR games are lasting the same duration as ARAM games, then SR games are too short. But that's not really news. Woosh
: the way the rune description is worded, you gain 40% CDR on your ult only then you can stack 15% more through using your ult that totals to 55% CDR once fully stacked if the bonus 5% also stacks, then you gain 60% CD on your ult Please read
> [{quoted}](name=THE RlVER KlNG,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=417hVAki,comment-id=003c0000,timestamp=2017-09-01T02:12:15.994+0000) > > the way the rune description is worded, you gain 40% CDR on your ult only > > then you can stack 15% more through using your ult > > that totals to 55% CDR once fully stacked > > if the bonus 5% also stacks, then you gain 60% CD on your ult > > Please read And yet you think this 'immediately' happens at level 6. Please read
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: Looks like after the patch I am also able to log in now. So much for being my ISP per tech support.
> [{quoted}](name=DTCshooter,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2017-08-23T22:22:45.460+0000) > > Looks like after the patch I am also able to log in now. So much for being my ISP per tech support. After a restart I seem to be able to log in at normal ping. Wasn't an ISP issue, despite how much they wanted to pass it off like one
: Seems to be fixed for me. Wish riot was more vocal with their back and forth but thank you nonetheless for addressing it with the maintenance edit: Higher ping than what I used to get though. I'm guessing the denver node is still down and we're just being routed around it now lmao
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Azir Egypt,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2017-08-23T12:22:11.343+0000) > > Seems to be fixed for me. Wish riot was more vocal with their back and forth but thank you nonetheless for addressing it with the maintenance > > edit: Higher ping than what I used to get though. I'm guessing the denver node is still down and we're just being routed around it now lmao They're just realizing it's not an ISP issue. My ping is perfectly fine until it reaches "RiotDirect" so it's just being routed somewhere else.
: The only reply we've gotten on our tickets to riot were "Use a VPN" so they're probably done with us. Looks like it doesn't effect enough of their customers for them to want to do anything about it if it is even an issue on their end which they wouldn't come out and say if it was or not
> [{quoted}](name=A Danish Pastry,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2017-08-22T16:00:56.232+0000) > > The only reply we've gotten on our tickets to riot were "Use a VPN" so they're probably done with us. Looks like it doesn't effect enough of their customers for them to want to do anything about it if it is even an issue on their end which they wouldn't come out and say if it was or not Yeah, they're done with us. It's not a Comcast issue although they insist it is. I have friends that are actually in the Denver metro area that have Comcast and they have no issue connecting.
: Disconnecting in loading screen
Having same issue, may or may not be related to the Denver issues in the 'unable to connect to login queue' thread also in this forum.
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Interestingly enough, if I'm in a game, and I disconnect from VPN everything is working fine. The client though, won't work
: Has anyone had any success here yet? I also am having the issues described here. I have been working with a tech rep who so far has been unable to find a solution. I also called my ISP, we ensured all proper forwards were set up and they say nothing else on their end should be causing it. Yet I am still unable to test 192.64.170.252. Mine gets stopped after 9 hops at 206.51.46.6.
> [{quoted}](name=DTCshooter,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-08-21T22:57:46.581+0000) > > Has anyone had any success here yet? I also am having the issues described here. I have been working with a tech rep who so far has been unable to find a solution. I also called my ISP, we ensured all proper forwards were set up and they say nothing else on their end should be causing it. Yet I am still unable to test 192.64.170.252. Mine gets stopped after 9 hops at 206.51.46.6. No, we've heard absolutely nothing. My ticket was closed as it seems they know what the problem is, or where along it has problems, but I'm a bit worried the issue was passed off elsewhere. They're claiming it's ISP issue, but it's any ISP going through Denver, and authentication to Riot is the only thing not working.
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@Porocles Any update for us?
: Hopefully this all gets sorted soon... I don't think it's on our ends, or our ISPs considering we have different ones. Fingers are crossed.
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Azir Egypt,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-08-20T00:31:34.506+0000) > > Hopefully this all gets sorted soon... I don't think it's on our ends, or our ISPs considering we have different ones. Fingers are crossed. Hope so too, very frustrating.
: Krisys...i'm also in denver with Comcast and unable to get into the game. Did you have any luck with their support? or is VPN the only solution you could find
> [{quoted}](name=WoodsWitch,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=000100020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-19T19:22:53.087+0000) > > Krisys...i'm also in denver with Comcast and unable to get into the game. Did you have any luck with their support? or is VPN the only solution you could find I didn't get with their support since it's not the ISPs issue, people with different ISPs are having issues when they hit the backbone in denver it seems. VPN has been the only way.
: It seems like our area is having issues then. I'm currently arguing with my ISP because I can't get any sort of support beyond the call center. >:( *edit* I forgot to post WinMTR info, it does look like the Denver area is having problems because most of my packets are being dropped there. host-69-144-94-229.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 8 | 13 | 182 | 13 | |host-72-175-5-3.grf-mt.client.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 8 | 13 | 182 | 10 | | host-69-145-94-156.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 13 | 18 | 188 | 19 | | mslmt001cr5-XE-5-2-0-U0.int.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 23 | 29 | 197 | 24 | | host-72-175-111-220.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 24 | 29 | 198 | 30 | |host-69-146-192-2.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 25 | 32 | 199 | 26 | | host-72-175-110-219.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 26 | 31 | 200 | 26 | | xe-8-0-2.bar2.boston1.Level3.net - 2 | 292 | 289 | 0 | 30 | 349 | 27 | **| ae-1-3501.ear3.Denver1.Level3.net - 99 | 62 | 1 | 0 | 32 | 32 | 32 |** | 4.59.253.98 - 2 | 292 | 289 | 26 | 32 | 353 | 34 | | 104.160.138.35 - 3 | 280 | 274 | 0 | 31 | 348 | 27 | | ae34-br01.chi01.riotdirect.net - 3 | 277 | 270 | 0 | 52 | 369 | 49 | The 99 is the % of packets dropped *edit again, sorry* I ran a tracert just now against 104.160.131.1 and the denver hop completely timed out but then I had solid connection to Riot. Even with that drop, that shouldn't be the cause of a failed handshake with Riots authentication token request. * last edit * My ISP can't help me cause the node where the issue is occurring is outside of the nodes they control.
> [{quoted}](name=Newbcakez,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=0001000200000000,timestamp=2017-08-19T17:57:13.631+0000) > > It seems like our area is having issues then. I'm currently arguing with my ISP because I can't get any sort of support beyond the call center. >:( > > *edit* I forgot to post WinMTR info, it does look like the Denver area is having problems because most of my packets are being dropped there. > > host-69-144-94-229.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 8 | 13 | 182 | 13 | > > |host-72-175-5-3.grf-mt.client.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 8 | 13 | 182 | 10 | > > | host-69-145-94-156.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 13 | 18 | 188 | 19 | > > | mslmt001cr5-XE-5-2-0-U0.int.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 23 | 29 | 197 | 24 | > > | host-72-175-111-220.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 24 | 29 | 198 | 30 | > > |host-69-146-192-2.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 25 | 32 | 199 | 26 | > > | host-72-175-110-219.static.bresnan.net - 0 | 303 | 303 | 26 | 31 | 200 | 26 | > > | xe-8-0-2.bar2.boston1.Level3.net - 2 | 292 | 289 | 0 | 30 | 349 | 27 | > > **| ae-1-3501.ear3.Denver1.Level3.net - 99 | 62 | 1 | 0 | 32 | 32 | 32 |** > > | 4.59.253.98 - 2 | 292 | 289 | 26 | 32 | 353 | 34 | > > | 104.160.138.35 - 3 | 280 | 274 | 0 | 31 | 348 | 27 | > > | ae34-br01.chi01.riotdirect.net - 3 | 277 | 270 | 0 | 52 | 369 | 49 | > > The 99 is the % of packets dropped I'm not having any packets drop unless I'm using my VPN. It's looking like denver could be the culprit as I"m VPN from houston and was able to login. Again, not ideal since its about twice the lag.
: unable to connect to login queue
So, using a VPN logs me into the game. LOL
Valeo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Newbcakez,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-19T17:35:35.490+0000) > > Kr1sys - I live in Montana. Hope you can read this reply. > > @OP I'm also having issues trying to login. What region are you in? Not OP but was having the same issues. Using a VPN was a temporary fix for me although I would like for the issue on Riot's end to be fixed. I'm in CO though if that info makes any difference
> [{quoted}](name=Valeo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=9mptZ8HM,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2017-08-19T17:47:42.726+0000) > > Not OP but was having the same issues. Using a VPN was a temporary fix for me although I would like for the issue on Riot's end to be fixed. I'm in CO though if that info makes any difference I've tried with a VPN and without, I'll try to use different locations on the VPN and see if that resolves it in the meantime.
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