: Grasp of the Undying: suggested change
You are just bad and clearly don't understand the game. Grasp ALWAYS WORKED LIKE THAT. There is nothing new here except for the permanent 5 life gain.
: Was wondering about laning against a Kled as Riven.
His W is just a passive and it activates every time it's off CD so wait until you see him using it on minions then you can go in. It's easy to see when his using the 4 W AAs so you won't have problem with this.
: Fiora? I guess you could call it a skill match-up. Fiora just rapes Irelia Early if she knows what shes doing. Irelias E is telegraphed enough that it will get reposte. After that she will lose the trade so bad that she will not want to do that again. Its pretty much a Fiora free farm and Irelia gets denied. If Irelia tries to farm her vitals get slapped up. thats the 1v1. The only hope Irelia wins this lane is jungler intervention. Edit: Nm i was just venting from a loss from fiora on my smurf earlier this week. Lvl 3 tower dive from Vi snowballed Fiora. You can go toe to toe with fiora if you use Armor quints and yellows and start Cloth4.
LOL since when Irelia's E is telegraphed? It's very fast and you barely have any time reposte it. Lest not forget about ping here as well since it makes it much harder for Fiora. It's not easy at all to reposte Irelia's E, it's not impossible by any means, but it's not easy.
: Who actually does well into Irelia?
Irelia can't do shit against {{champion:420}}. In the first levels Irelia can try to get a kill and snowball the lane, but as Illaoi there is no need to risk yourself in this stage so you just have to play safe even if it means lose some CS. After level 6 if Irelia ever try to engage, you just E her then ult. She'll either die or burn her flash (don't let she bait your ult with her Q). As Illaoi gets her first item Irelia will 100% die every time she engages and you pull her spirit and ult.
: Quinn Tips?
I play her only on mid. She is quite good on there, but other mid lane champions have more kill pressure on her than most top lane champions. I would most match ups on mid are skill match ups. The worst one i have faced so far is Syndra. She is basically an anti-carry so murders you if you not careful enough. I usually pick her when i see the enemy team doesn't have too much tanks on their comp. Two tanks are already meh, but three is a no no. Her mid game is really strong with the armor pen build.
: I was Silver 3 last season and now I'm hovering between plat 1-2. Does this automatically mean I got boosted? Even though I have had a solo badge since badges were released? There are boosted monkeys rampant but that doesn't mean people that sucked last season can't climb to high elo
Trust me, most people who were low elo last season and are now higher are most likely using the Dynamic queue system. And you said it yourself, you have a solo badge which means you climbed with your own efforts...or money in some peoples case.
RoodToob (NA)
: Yes, yes i have, thanks. But people who want to be boosted didnt wait for DQ to get boosted. They'll get boosted one way or another. DQ had nothing to do with it
No one said they were waiting, just that now they can have friends that can carry their asses to a higher league.
: why the fuk would u waste ur time watching ur own game again honestly wtf
Because that's a good way to improve? I didn't watch the whole, just some key point of the game that i was curious about. To tell the truth i was more curious to see how LB played in her lane phase just to see if she was really bad or unlucky during the team fights, but she was really bad.
: Is that a joke? Booster Que is alive and well much more than it was last season. Much easier and more profitable to get 3-4 boosters que'd together instead of just 2 compared to last season.
Yeah that sucks. Yesterday i had two games in a row where 3 players from my team were silver last season and are now plat. Fortunately one of the players didn't connect so we got a remake, but the second one was a full game. The LB from my team was silver last season and she was sooo bad. She didn't know how to play with LB...or at least not above silver level (i watched her lane phase from a replay file). Guess what, the 3 players who were silver last season were useless the entire game and me and Kindred were trying really hard to carry, but at some point it became impossible and we lost. Of course, i took a look at their profiles and they all have the dynamic preference badge...no surprise i guess.
Rozair (NA)
: I think that's a glitch
It's not. Kled is invulnerable for half a second or something like that after dismounting. He even drops tower aggro.
: I'm not saying she can't beat any of these - but they're not even. Olaf (imo) is the closest to being even, but everyone else ends up having the advantage. Not to say doesn't mean Riven can't win some like level 1-3 trades against these champions, but there's more to lane than that. Also Cassiopeia is extremely hard to fight against if she uses her Ground properly. She can zone with it, stop an all in or cut off your escape entirely with it.
Why are you talking about Cass here? She is ranged and Riven is not. Most ranged champions shit on melees and Cass can be specially hard to deal with.
Caítlyn (NA)
: Nah its perfectly fine for her to press R, go afk and penta. I mean she doesnt even have to do anything, just creates tentacles that destroy everything for free.
LoL yeah if it were that easy she would have the highest winrate of the game. Her ult alone doesn't do shit, you have to keep using her W and if she is CCed she can't do anything with her ult.
Lighten (NA)
: The Illaoi changes. (Riot, please don't!)
I like the change to her W, it should have been like this from the beginning. Now we can max E second without wanting to put points in W just to lower the CD. The changes to her heal are strange. It CAN be a good change when you consider just her harass in lane. Instead of hitting Q three times, you just hit one Q for the same healing, that's good. But what about her ultimate? Everyone knows that Illaoi survive the fights by using her ultimate to heal herself while the tentacles smash the opponents to death. Now she wont be able to do that because the healing CD early is 20 sec. Even late game she will be able to heal only twice during her ultimate. I don't know what Riot has in mind with this change, but i hope they realize this change can break the champion completely and make her 100% unviable if they don't have changes planned with this.
Quepha (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=esmelar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XgHE5IKk,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-04-22T02:37:49.362+0000) > > Probably because she is gonna sinergize so well with new{{item:3028}} and every mage in the game is going to buy Morellonomicon first because there aren't any other options for them
There are a lot of other options now. Since there are more items that give CDR you are not forced to get Morello. You also have more item that gives mana so you choose what you want now. If you plan to get Zhonyas Abyssal in one game, you can build another item that gives mana because you're already getting 20% CDR. Not all champions really need 40% CDR.
Arcyvilk (EUNE)
: Edit: at the end of the post are some PBE videos --- These changes make no sense*, especially when paired with the previous 6.2 nerfs to his early game waveclear. Everything in his kit is now _greatly_ delayed. On top of W arming time and his autoattack range not matching the Q range causing the delay, now we have twice as long time between the secondary E explosion and ult ticking 4.6 times less often. Due to W delay, he will have _an extremly hard time_ applying the secondary damage unless he gets the setup from his teammates. The only way he can make it work himself is buying Rylai - to make secondary E hit _even possible_ - but at the same time the synergy with ult is gone due to lower tick ratio (slow lasts 1s, damage is applied once 2s), therefore greatly lowering team utility. Both E and R secondary damage instances got their damage buffed, but let's be honest - given how mobile majority of meta champions is, who is going to just stay in place and wait to be hit by the goddamn 1.25 second delayed laser explosion!? Probably only goddamn minions or 200 ping Kog'Maw. Riot, in 6.2 patch you've nerfed Viktor's early game waveclear. Now, with these new ratios, it is back. He can even have -20 AP at level 9, he will oneshot caster minions anyway. Why do you _force_ him to PvE now then? Why make him a second Orianna, as a champion that relies heavily on wombo combo to work? Why do you increase his clunkiness even though the major point of his first, S4 rework, was to _elliminate_ that. And the worst part is that his damage got actually buffed so if we complain about all the clunkiness added to his kit, you can just say "But these changes are actually pure buffs, just look at numbers!". Pity that numbers aren't everything. --- *EDIT1: When I shook all the salt off me I realised these changes are probably aimed at enabling him to choose between Q and E max, and specifically, between Q focused tanky skirmisher mage and E focused glass cannon teamfight monster. Q no longer scales with levels, E's damage got buffed so it can be a waveclear tool even when not maxed, Q shield scaling with mana... It actually makes sense, and while it makes me less salty because it opens new opportunities for Viktor, I am still not happy with the changes since it was The Laser that attracted me to champion and I greatly enjoy his current playstyle. Tanky toplane Viktor being viable would make me happy, but _not for such cost_. --- EDIT2: I toyed with him a bit on the PBE. He is so clunky now, that it feels like I had constant lags (and yes, I play a lot on PBE so I am able to differentiate actual lags caused by high ping from champion's clunkiness). It was a terrible experience. If anyone is interested how significant the delay on his lazor is, have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al-NV58KHiY And this is a test regarding all the delays existing in his kit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmToemmkLh4 [And this is /r/viktormains thread I've made with calculations, math and analysis behind his changes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/viktormains/comments/4frhst/math_behind_viktor_pbe_changes_calculations_and/)
Of course it feels you are lagging, you are playing with 200+ ping, WTF were you expecting? PBE is always like that.
Nebuul (NA)
: Should Sion build Rylai's
Sion has 2 slows already (3 if you count his ultimate) and his AP scaling is just 40% on his W and E. I think it's a mediocre buy on him at best.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kuronok2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oUbqAEhy,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2016-04-16T22:26:40.409+0000) > > Jinx doesn't have a strong all in, a escape which resets on kill, a skill that melts towers and does loads of damage to champions and a ultimate that does damage and knocks back a champion miles away. are you fucking with me right now? she has strong all in thanks to her passive and minigun. like, those steroids are ridiculous. and triggering her passive off some random assist and then just snowball through a fight is not hard with jinx. same with escape thanks to the movment speed boost on her passive, a 70% slow on her w and her traps. her mini gun shreds towers, and her rocket crits melt entire teams from 700 range. jinx has literally everything. poke, aoe damage, cc, burst, mobility. you name it.
You call that all in? Jinx just AA you to death, that's it. Any other carry can do that. Tristana jumps on you, use her E, AA some times and then ults you and you are dead. If she has some kills she will kill a squishy very fast with this. Jinx deosn't have any burst, the only thing she can do other than AA you is W and ult you from point blank, but both skills are telegraphed and can be avoided. You can't do that to Tristana's skills other than her jump because they are target. Jinx has to AA a tower tons of times, Tristana uses her E and AA for times to a massive damage to the tower. She doesn't need to pout herself to danger for too much time. Jinx passive can't be considered a escape nor mobility. It's very situational and she just gets a burst of move speed for a short time.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kuronok2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oUbqAEhy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-16T21:55:30.604+0000) > > You had 100% winrate because she was broken and now she is not. > > I actually think she is the most overloaded ADC in the game. She has everything. jinx is a strong contender.
Jinx doesn't have a strong all in, a escape which resets on kill, a skill that melts towers and does loads of damage to champions and a ultimate that does damage and knocks back a champion miles away. Tristana also have huge range on her AA and huge attack speed steroid on her Q. This champions has everything she could have as an ADC. When she is ahead you can't kill her because she has too many ways to get away from you while killing you.
: 48 hour reminder to @RIOT Rhojin A response to something (quoted) you said in forum
ybuR (NA)
: Rework Tristana again or unnerf her preseason nerf
You had 100% winrate because she was broken and now she is not. I actually think she is the most overloaded ADC in the game. She has everything.
cino (NA)
: State of Xerath
He is still very good. Stop complaining about a champion being immobile, not all champions should be mobile. I think Xerath doesn't have a good keystone to use. I don't think TD is very good on him and the others are worse so he just goes with the less bad.
GigglesO (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kuronok2,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=AJ4XOBfz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-04-15T02:54:31.098+0000) > > Yeah where is the sale? I was waiting for the skin to come with a discount like Riot always do. When that changed? And support ticket submitted, since no rioter will ever read this boards post.
Good. I'm not buying it until Riot says something about it.
GigglesO (NA)
: I thought skins came out on sale?
Yeah where is the sale? I was waiting for the skin to come with a discount like Riot always do. When that changed?
Dawnkin (NA)
: So riot is racist then i guess
Deserved. Next please.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Then why does he say " Exploit every weakness" ?
Dude Darius is a brute. He is skilled with his axe, but he is blood thirty as hell. The guy even decapitated his old general because he thought the general was a coward. I don't know what kind o leader you think Darius is, but he certainly is not the type who sit in a chair commanding his troops. The new splash art is perfect IMO
: Perma Banned? Do i really deserve a perma ban?
Deserved, next please. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: How to play mid-lane?
1 - Try new champs when they are available in the Free week. All champions can be good if you know how to use them so just choose a champion you think it's interesting and play it. This is a game, play to have fun and improve. 2 - You have to evaluate when you can roam, that's part of what makes a good midlaner/LOL player. Some tips are... *Don't roam when there are minions your tower (you might not get anything from your roam and will lose CS) *Pay attention to the enemy mid laner, he might follow you and turn the gank around or he can gank your other lane and get a kill there. *Don't force roams non-stop, it might become too predictable and their team can intercept you on your way. 3 - What champion are you are using? You should pick a spell that will help the champion you are playing. Ignite, barrier, heal, cleanse, teleport and even ghost are viable choices. 4 - Who said it is? It's important in high level play, not in bronze. Forget about counter picks, just picks the champions you are good with and learn the match ups. It's much better to learn the champion match ups so even if you are playing against a champion that is good against yours you can still play well. Some tips... Assassins are good for 1v1, but they are not good for team fights (except Katarina) and mages usually are good for team fights because of their utility or AOE damage, but have trouble 1v1 assassin. So if you are playing Vel'koz against Zed, you shouldn't be desperate to get kills on him, instead you should focus in getting farm safely to be a strong damage dealer during the team fights. Assassins are harder to play too IMO. Play a mage if you want to start with something easier. Most mages have simpler kits (not all of them) and their utility make them relevant even if they are not ahead. Assassins are mostly useless for their team when behind. Ward a lot...
momofatz (NA)
: Grounds for permentant ban????? really!
: They care less about toxicity then anything else in this game lmao. The problem with the community is still as strong as ever.
You are the reason the community is bad. You say the community is bad, but you are here complain about toxic people getting banned. Can you be more braindead?
NyxPyre (NA)
: How to actually beat Fiora and the other 15 broken champs (must read)
I can win may lane against Fiora no problem, but of course, i understand what i should and shouldn't do against her. Most players prefer to just complain.
: Fav ult to use in the game
{{champion:14}} best ultimate. {{champion:161}} i would have loved to be able to disintegrate my homework and still learn things. {{champion:133}} fly around the map at high speed is really fun. {{champion:420}} i like hentai.
Nebuul (NA)
: Champions who prefer deathfire to thunderlord's
{{champion:14}} Grasp. {{champion:420}} Grasp, she can proc it on the spirit, so no reason to pic something else.
: Changes to Singed passive?
Yeah you build Tear and ROA and you'll have no early and mid game. Might as well AFK. That's why high elo Singed mains don't build those items, because they slow you down too much. The game is much faster now and you don't have time to keep stacking all those items. Every time i go against a Singed that builds Tear and ROA i know that i can steamroll him because he won't have any damage and will also be very squishy early game.
Crett (NA)
: {{item:3110}} {{item:3025}} <-------------
> [{quoted}](name=Crett,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yaEH2JAo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-18T10:32:21.254+0000) > > {{item:3110}} {{item:3025}} <------------- Stupid comment. No Singed main build those items. Singed doesn't need CDR and mana is also not needed.
: > [{quoted}](name=Undistracted,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=wUMGQnGx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-12T18:14:56.230+0000) > > That's what I hear all the time from my Bronze friends. You should just accept the fact that you're not good enough yet and just learn the game mechanics etc before trying to climb and ruining your MMR. You have to sometimes deal with bad teammates and trolls / feeders, but it's just not possible to have them in EVERY game :) Learn how to carry not only yourself but your teams as well. so you are telling me to play my carry champ not even thinking hey my team needs a tank but i'll play my carry champ
> [{quoted}](name=Justagamr,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=wUMGQnGx,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-12T22:15:25.621+0000) > > so you are telling me to play my carry champ not even thinking hey my team needs a tank but i'll play my carry champ You can carry with a tank very easily if you are good enough with it. I can stomp any low elo player without any problem with Sion. I had a game some months ago where i was wining top against Gnar, then our ADC disconnects, i asked our jungler to stay top and i went bot. By the time our ADC came back i was 15/1/6 and the enemy team just surrendered. Mind you i was building full tank and that was ranked at Silver ELO. If you are really better than the elo you are you can carry the game easily. You may lose some games, but you should win the huge majority of them.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kuronok2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=URkstEAe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-02-11T23:35:22.740+0000) > > LOL Nidalee was ALWAYS hated. Everyone hated her because one of her spear could easily take 70% of your health. > > She was a stupid champion hated by everyone from the get go. Don't think otherwise. every champion is hated at on release and loved on release. the difference is how much. maybe she was 10% hated on release maybe 25% idk but it wasn't the around 80% that it is now
> [{quoted}](name=SwiftKitten88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=URkstEAe,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-02-11T23:51:35.676+0000) > > every champion is hated at on release and loved on release. > > the difference is how much. > > maybe she was 10% hated on release maybe 25% idk > > but it wasn't the around 80% that it is now No she was one of the most hated champions. Riot already said that when Nidalee is strong in the meta she is the most complained champion in all regions. Everyone hated her. Long range skill shot that could one shot you. Heal. Mobility up in the ass (you can never catch her). Only Nidalee mains liked her. I hated her a lot too...still do.
Nahui (NA)
: Is Fizz worthwhile? Please Read
Doesn't matter your looks, skill or age or size or anything,...you are worthwhile and no one can ever take that away from you. https://youtu.be/wDQTvuP1Dgs?t=33s
: Nidalee's traps, a History
LOL Nidalee was ALWAYS hated. Everyone hated her because one of her spear could easily take 70% of your health. She was a stupid champion hated by everyone from the get go. Don't think otherwise.
: Leblanc's Tether Range Is Completely Unreasonable
The skill even slows you just to make sure you can't escape.
Meddler (NA)
: Two main reasons: 1. Sion's ult is intended to be attractive in particular as an initiation spell. Adding a reward to it for kills however lead to players sitting on it until someone was low enough to be killed. That discouraged the more interesting (longer range) uses of the spell. 2. One of Sion's intended weaknesses is lack of back line access. This mechanic, if ever relevant, clashes with that by letting him pass through the front line that should be consistently blocking his ult.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XpknPrXA,comment-id=000c0001,timestamp=2016-02-10T21:31:14.426+0000) > > Two main reasons: > > 1. Sion's ult is intended to be attractive in particular as an initiation spell. Adding a reward to it for kills however lead to players sitting on it until someone was low enough to be killed. That discouraged the more interesting (longer range) uses of the spell. > > 2. One of Sion's intended weaknesses is lack of back line access. This mechanic, if ever relevant, clashes with that by letting him pass through the front line that should be consistently blocking his ult. Ok fair enough. As a Sion main i never understood why the buff never went through, but this answer makes sense.
: Obviously working somewhere.. Sirhcez is Master now and Trick2g is currently Challenger 1 sooo.. How is their strategy a troll?
> [{quoted}](name=Magik Seven,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=oyPEn79d,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-09T11:44:07.003+0000) > > Obviously working somewhere.. Sirhcez is Master now and Trick2g is currently Challenger 1 sooo.. How is their strategy a troll? Trick2g strategy is not bad, the problem is low elo players trying to emulate things they don't know how. I'm not blaming him, but low elo players don't know how to split push. They think they need to push all the time and if they die the team needs to get an objective for his death. They usually have 0 map awareness so even if their team is all dead they still expect something to happen.
: I got permabanned THREE games after my 2 week ban
Reäver (NA)
: No you don't you have to know when to trade and when to play passive Any champion can be played by pressing buttons ??
> [{quoted}](name=Reaver MHX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3tElEYoE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-02-06T04:07:15.148+0000) > > No you don't you have to know when to trade and when to play passive > > Any champion can be played by pressing buttons ?? Know when to trade and stuff is pure knowledge and has nothing to do with mechanical skill. Yeah the second part was dumb. What i mean is that Vlad damage is all unavoidable, you just press your buttons and the enemy takes damage. The only thing you need to think is who will take more damage with the trade you or the opponent, you don't even need to think you are going to hit or miss anything.
: Jack of all trades champ. Broken Q that costs no mana,it shouldn't prioritize champions. What's the point of trying to fight her,if you do she will dash around you to proc all of her passive. If you run away,you just run get free damage. Not even talking about how she is the 2nd easiest melee champ in the game
> [{quoted}](name=UnknownToPublic,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3tElEYoE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-06T02:44:33.634+0000) > > Jack of all trades champ. > Broken Q that costs no mana,it shouldn't prioritize champions. > What's the point of trying to fight her,if you do she will dash around you to proc all of her passive. > If you run away,you just run get free damage. > Not even talking about how she is the 2nd easiest melee champ in the game Try to play with her against competent players and come back to tell if she is truly that easy to play.
Reäver (NA)
: Same as much as I'm good mechcanically I can't win vs a fiora in trades as vlad Best method: group and let her split push all she wants or ask jungler for l help ^^^
> [{quoted}](name=Reaver MHX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3tElEYoE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-06T01:09:02.843+0000) > > Same as much as I'm good mechcanically I can't win vs a fiora in trades as vlad > > Best method: group and let her split push all she wants or ask jungler for l help ^^^ Mechcanically? With Vlad? You just press buttons and win if the opponent have less damage than you, but since Fiora can deal more damage she is able to win.
: More importantly; It has with it a mini stun followed by a root, followed by a stun/knockback combination followed by another mini stun at the end. How about making it JUST knock back instead of having massive amounts of hidden power? Syndra's knockback is what Lee's knockback should be like.
> [{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z12mtapE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-06T03:03:29.751+0000) > > More importantly; > It has with it a mini stun followed by a root, followed by a stun/knockback combination followed by another mini stun at the end. > > How about making it JUST knock back instead of having massive amounts of hidden power? Syndra's knockback is what Lee's knockback should be like. True. He kicks you and you can't move immediately like you can with Syndra's E, but arguing against Lee is pointless. Riot has prove time and time again that they will never touch him unless it's for buff him.
xJLGx (NA)
: YEAH CUZ A PLAT AND BELOW PLAYER WONT MISS LOL
> [{quoted}](name=xJLGx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9UqdTY5A,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T23:57:31.557+0000) > > YEAH CUZ A PLAT AND BELOW PLAYER WONT MISS LOL The player missing doesn't mean shit. If the player is good you are fucked because you can't dodge.
xJLGx (NA)
: her skillshots are slow as piss and easy to read lol. esp q so dunno what you talkin about. assassins are good.
> [{quoted}](name=xJLGx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9UqdTY5A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-04T23:45:28.688+0000) > > her skillshots are slow as piss and easy to read lol. esp q so dunno what you talkin about. assassins are good. Her E is impossible to dodge. She can miss it, but you can't dodge if you don't have a dash.
darkdill (NA)
: Is there ANY accommodation going forward for people who only want to play one role (i.e. "I can't play anything but top!")? Or is it now "Only play one role? Sorry, play another game." EDIT: I can play any role, but sometimes I don't want to let RNG put me in a spot other than jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=Yousosmart,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=zJ4kqlHZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-01-31T06:00:16.097+0000) > > Is there ANY accommodation going forward for people who only want to play one role (i.e. "I can't play anything but top!")? > > Or is it now "Only play one role? Sorry, play another game." Why not learn something else as well? Sometimes i just want to play top, or mid or whatever other role, but i know how to play other lanes. Learn to play two roles is not hard. Playing mid and top is not much different.
: I always feel super outplayed when I catch a fiora out 2v1 or whatever and instead of being able to easily fight her like we should be able to, she presses W on a disable, stuns one of us, ults the other and kills both of us. Very skillful.
> [{quoted}](name=The Bearded Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mfxFaptL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-01-31T00:35:53.404+0000) > > I always feel super outplayed when I catch a fiora out 2v1 or whatever and instead of being able to easily fight her like we should be able to, she presses W on a disable, stuns one of us, ults the other and kills both of us. > > Very skillful. If both of you let her spin around and procs her vital it's clear she outplayed you. Also it's not so easy to use her W perfectly.
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