Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EbonyBladeJ88,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=y8XRe2P9,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-11-15T22:31:42.252+0000) > > Why does it annoy you that I'm simply asking a question? > > **** > > I was just saying we don't know the gender of the upcoming Lunari, so I was covering both bases. It annoys me because "he or she" sounds so damn clunky They/Them exist for a reason, you know
: So now that Senna's out the door...
I made a post about this recently, it is most definitely possible. Someone comment on a Reddit thread explaining why the leaked champion "Aphelios" could be revealed during December, to which Reav3 replied" now that's what I call faith." This could be a total coincidence but it seems like this ADC is going to be heavily based around their faith of some form, and it could just be a play on words but it could also be teasing at his possible reveal soon. We'll see.
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Umbra Z (NA)
: Dont run it down, remakes arent guaranteed or else they’d be abused. If he never connected you can remake but if he bought biscuits he clearly connected to the game
"Bought biscuits" it's a rune. It's not something you buy, and he was my duo partner and purposely stayed afk to ensure a remake.
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: I hope a Vladamir VGU is in the next year.
REAV3 did say on Reddit that while Vladimir is not necessarily high on their list for VGUs, he would love to give him one. Definitely a possibility, given Riot will most likely not want to give a bunch of Junglers reworks next year and their list is mostly comprised of Junglers.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Pretty sure for the time being at least, older champions will get the gemstones and most of them haven't been high sellers with the exception of Vayne/Annie. So I don't think we'll see a Yasuo one in there any time soon.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NVEJoxjl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-26T00:18:43.445+0000) > > Pretty sure for the time being at least, older champions will get the gemstones and most of them haven't been high sellers with the exception of Vayne/Annie. So I don't think we'll see a Yasuo one in there any time soon. I'm more or less referring to Syndra or Volibear or Udyr or something. Didn't mention those but I have a pretty wide variety of champions that I would personally buy a Gemstone skin for in a heartbeat. I just wish there was some way of knowing what champions will get one in the near future, as I really want Dark Star Cho'Gath but I don't want to buy it if theres going to be one upcoming for one of my mains.
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Unker139 (NA)
: I thought I heard that it was going to be cross platform.
> [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hhEpNx28,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T18:36:18.173+0000) > > I thought I heard that it was going to be cross platform. It's a separate game from LoL on PC, console and mobile are the same I'm just wondering if there will be any way for PC and Console to cross play.
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: > Yeah but the point is you shouldn't have to pick a very specific pool of champions to play against another. But that's exactly how it's worked for years. If you have trouble against a specific champion you learn their counters, be it their weaknesses in a fight, or specific matchups that just counter them. No matchup in the game is an instant loss, you can always do things to help win, roam, play for objectives, etc. > The problem with her is that she is designed with so many handicaps that even if you are a terrible player, you can still win lane 90% of the time. She has a relatively high skill floor and a very high skill ceiling, pretending that anyone can climb with her with little to no experience is ridiculous. She isn't the hardest champion in the game but she isn't that easy either. This entire post is filled with bias against Akali, so my suggestion is to start playing her, and if you can win 90% of your matchups in lane then I'll admit you're right.
Listen. I get you're an Akali main so you would obviously be biased against my comments. Your champion has a 50% banrate in Masters+. She doesn't take absolutely no skill, but the fact is that she has handicaps built into her kit and she simply has too much in her kit for how good she is. Too little risk for such high reward. I'm not denying the fact that she takes some skill, obviously a bronze player can't hit masters by playing her. But that's how it is for every champion in the game. She simply is too strong right now and has too much in her kit which makes it very hard to play against her. Also when it comes to the meta in top lane right now of the person that counterpicks almost always wins lane, it's hard to pick a counter against her. JS.
: You insult me and make no points and pretend like you won an argument. What a sad life you lead. As if I'd play ranked. If it makes me as pitiful as you are, Insulting people and complaining on the League Boards (OMEGALUL), it doesn't sound like something I want to do.
You told me to get good, yet I'm better than you. ANYBODY with more than two braincells understands that the Akali Irelia matchup leans towards Akali, and the skill difference has to be extremely large for Akali to lose. She either has to completely waste her shroud or not have her ulti to even have a chance to fight. Anyways, the argument that thinking a champion needs to be gutted because of how unfair they are is bad is stupid. It's inevitable for people to have champions that they want completely nerfed into the ground, and some people may dislike one champion that most people like, but the fact is that she has a 30% banrate in Plat+ because nobody likes playing against her. That's 1 out of every 3 games she is banned. The stats don't lie my friend.
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: {{champion:36}} {{champion:56}} will be carried over if they are the ones not chosen for a VGU before the poll happens. They will be joined by 3 champion.
It'll probably be {{champion:36}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:32}} or something among those lines, maybe {{champion:31}} or {{champion:33}} too, who knows. I know Reav3 has spoken that Riot wants to do a Vlad VGU, so maybe there will be a VGU for him next year or 2021. Also on Reddit he has mentioned doing a Trynd and Olaf VGU, however they are not high on the rework priorities ATM.
: LoveNacho Wrote: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUrpBhtw,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-24T12:52:01.580+0000) > > VGU Stands for **Visual Graphiccs Update.** Check your stats. You just changed your own story to "Visual Gameplay Update" which isn't even actually accurate (Visual AND Gameplay Updates....) https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule Urgot and Aatrox WERE both Visual and Gameplay Updates. Kayle was a Visual and Gameplay Update. If you investigated Twitch...... Twitter..... these boards.... Morgana was declared to be a Visual Upgrade ONLY. The only reason the schedule can give that confusion is because it was a combined (2 champ) project.
Your claim was that VGU stands for Visual Graphics Update. And I told you that you were wrong because you are. Why are you changing the subject?
: No. It doesn't. Visual Graphics Update does not have gameplay ANYWHERE in the name, and Riot told us up front they weren't planning on reworking Morgana.
It stands for Visual Gameplay Update. They called both the Urgot AND Aatrox updates "VGUs." Get your facts right please. Oh wait you're HS silver, I don't blame you for not understanding.
Green Girl (EUNE)
: Riot ? 50+ ping increse
I thought it was a problem on just my end, given that I live six miles from LCS Finals so I assumed Riot messed with the servers and that the LCS was like sucking up juice or something. Guess not. I normally have 20 and now I have 70. Feelsgoodman
: It's the SAME THING.
You told me that they gave Morgana a VGU. They didn't. A VGU specifically means GAMEPLAY AND ALSO VISUAL UPDATE. They gave her a visual update. That was my whole complaint. They had said that it would be a VGU for both Kayle and Morgana, when it really was a VGU and a VU. You're telling me that they're the same thing. They're not. Imagine if Riot said they were giving Teemo a VGU and they just changed his in game model. That's not a VGU, and that is exactly what they did to Morg.
: Did it look like I was attempting to dissect an anagram? Oh wait.
You said a VGU was a graphics update. That's a VU. Not a VGU.
: VGU = Graphics Upgrade. Not a rework. Also, cry about it. They already nerfed Black shield TWICE.
VGU Stands for Visual Graphiccs Update. Check your stats.
Hordes66 (NA)
: There's nothing wrong with his E, look at Vayne's tumble.
Vayne Tumble isn't a flash. It's rather small and pretty much Aatrox E. The only time it can even be remotely bad is with her ult. It really pales in comparison to Ez's E.
Hordes66 (NA)
: For the last fucking time, Ezreal was 16th place out of 17 when Riot hit him with shit tier nerfs.
He's bad. I know. I'm saying his E is dumb and needs to be removed/changed and that the rest of his kit needs a buff. lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUrpBhtw,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-23T23:17:55.082+0000) > > Yorick isn't a shit design. Old Yorick was. Also, that's why Akali and Aatrox are getting nerfs. Because they're broken. The difference is that THEY DON'T HAVE BUILT IN FLASHES. Yorick doesn't have a dash of any kind, Akali has three dashes and I've already stated my distaste towards that champion, and Aatrox is in a mediocre spot now and he's still getting nerfed. And he also has no dashes. Lux is an immobile mage and if you want an immobile mage that can be played support Morgana is just better. Illaoi isn't god tier right now but she's pretty strong. sitting at a 52% winrate. The thing is that most of those champions you listed scale very, very well. Ezreal doesn't have a good place in League, typically he just gets dueled by the enemy ADC late game and loses because all he is good at is poking. He's not a good duel champion compared to most ADCs and other champions overall. I never said Ezreal is broken because he's not. He's pretty bad right now. I'm just sick of seeing him played because he's garbage late game but his E is a stupid ability and needs to be changed. Yorrick is a shit design. If the counterplay to something is “don’t interact with them” it’s a shit design. Ezreal needs buffs if anything. Just because you don’t find something fun to play against doesn’t mean it needs to be nerfed.
IDK if you have eyeballs but I never ONCE said he needed a nerf. Not ONCE. Because he doesn't. His E needs a change because his E is disgustingly strong meanwhile his entire kit is lackluster otherwise. His entire kit revolves around playing super safe and it's a bad design. His E is a built in flash on a ranged champion. It's unfair and it removes a lot of counterplay when it comes to being able to stop him from poking you down, it just lets him play too safe. He's not good though. He doesn't need a nerf. He needs changes to his E to make it less powerful and make the rest of his kit powerful.
: We're acting like Akali's ever had a win rate above 50% anywhere under Diamond.
It doesn't matter about the winrate. Bad players play her like garbage and drag her winrate down. There are people below gold that play her at below average that can get ahead in lane but aren't good enough to snowball lanes. Just because her winrate is low doesn't make her bad. She's disgusting because if you have two equally skilled players, she will win in most situations because she has so many built in handicaps. Most people below Diamond don't know how to play her well enough to be able to 1v9 games, which is why her winrate is low. It's not that she's bad, it's that the people playing her are.
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUrpBhtw,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-08-23T23:06:38.032+0000) > > LOL. I don't think Ezreal is good. I think his poke is fucking annoying. He's not broken by any means but he is picked so frequently and having him on your team sucks because he is a useless champion and playing against him is annoying because he spam pokes. He's a really bad designed champion. They just need to fully rework him rather than leave him with an adjustment to his W. He sucks as a champion but his E is extremely annoying. I don't think hes broken. I think the fact that a ranged champion has a built in flash on a 13 second cooldown is stupid. Combined with the fact that his abilities reduce the cooldown, it's just annoying to play against when he literally dashes away from half of your abilities. There are lots of shit design champions. Like Yorric. Akali. Lux. Every assassin in the game, Pyke. Aatrox. Illaoi. No one wants to deal with any of them and they are all stronger than Ezreal by miles.
Yorick isn't a shit design. Old Yorick was. Also, that's why Akali and Aatrox are getting nerfs. Because they're broken. The difference is that THEY DON'T HAVE BUILT IN FLASHES. Yorick doesn't have a dash of any kind, Akali has three dashes and I've already stated my distaste towards that champion, and Aatrox is in a mediocre spot now and he's still getting nerfed. And he also has no dashes. Lux is an immobile mage and if you want an immobile mage that can be played support Morgana is just better. Illaoi isn't god tier right now but she's pretty strong. sitting at a 52% winrate. The thing is that most of those champions you listed scale very, very well. Ezreal doesn't have a good place in League, typically he just gets dueled by the enemy ADC late game and loses because all he is good at is poking. He's not a good duel champion compared to most ADCs and other champions overall. I never said Ezreal is broken because he's not. He's pretty bad right now. I'm just sick of seeing him played because he's garbage late game but his E is a stupid ability and needs to be changed.
: Really? Ezreal has a win rate of 47.2% and a pick rate of 9.40%. He is the second worst adc in the game right above Kalista (who is a meme right now) The next highest above him is Lucien with a full 1.20% win rate difference. Ezreal is a joke of a champion already. Why the fuck do you want to nerf him more? Because you ate 3 different straight line Skillshots and took half your health?
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUrpBhtw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-23T22:53:35.019+0000) > > Really? > Ezreal has a win rate of 47.2% and a pick rate of 9.40%. > > He is the second worst adc in the game right above Kalista (who is a meme right now) > > The next highest above him is Lucien with a full 1.20% win rate difference. > > Ezreal is a joke of a champion already. Why the fuck do you want to nerf him more? > > Because you ate 3 different straight line Skillshots and took half your health? LOL. I don't think Ezreal is good. I think his poke is fucking annoying. He's not broken by any means but he is picked so frequently and having him on your team sucks because he is a useless champion and playing against him is annoying because he spam pokes. He's a really bad designed champion. They just need to fully rework him rather than leave him with an adjustment to his W. He sucks as a champion but his E is extremely annoying. I don't think hes broken. I think the fact that a ranged champion has a built in flash on a 13 second cooldown is stupid. Combined with the fact that his abilities reduce the cooldown, it's just annoying to play against when he literally dashes away from half of your abilities.
coolelf (EUW)
: Lol ur just bad at the matchup, I never lose to akali, btw ur plat relax and stop acting like you know what you are talking about. I understand it's hard to learn when you are losing Lane to something you don't understand but please don't come to the forms to cry about it. Akali is much harder to play than any of the rage inducing champs you play( I checked) seeing as you do not understand that I am guessing that you are just venting the frustration at not understanding anything about the champion. TL;DR Stop complaining and learn Btw she IS very fun to play and having people like you to piss of makes it all the better.
> [{quoted}](name=coolelf,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-08-23T20:59:32.503+0000) > > Lol ur just bad at the matchup, I never lose to akali, btw ur plat relax and stop acting like you know what you are talking about. > I understand it's hard to learn when you are losing Lane to something you don't understand but please don't come to the forms to cry about it. > Akali is much harder to play than any of the rage inducing champs you play( I checked) seeing as you do not understand that I am guessing that you are just venting the frustration at not understanding anything about the champion. > TL;DR > Stop complaining and learn > Btw she IS very fun to play and having people like you to piss of makes it all the better. LOL you're plat too buddy. Plat on EUW to be exact. EU is garbage. You're literally an Akali player so of course you would deny the ENTIRE LEAGUE COMMUNITY talking about how bullshit your champion is. The fact that you can ONLY climb to Plat2 on such a disgusting champion is embarassing. I'd like to see you play an actual hard champion and try to climb to Plat2. Guarantee you wouldn't make it :)
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: 5 champions are enough to chose from, imo. There is no need to overload the poll with choices. They said that they will include these which didn't win this years poll, except if they do another one of these before the next poll starts (so most likely Shyvana is out by then, too). So I hope the next poll consists of: {{champion:36}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:32}}
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=gAE0FfLs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-23T11:13:13.561+0000) > > 5 champions are enough to chose from, imo. There is no need to overload the poll with choices. > They said that they will include these which didn't win this years poll, except if they do another one of these before the next poll starts (so most likely Shyvana is out by then, too). > > So I hope the next poll consists of: > {{champion:36}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:32}} I agree. All five of those champs need reworks. I hope by that point they have reworked Skarner or Udyr too, but the problem is that Riot isn't going to want to rework so many junglers in a row. Given that Shyvanna is going to get one next year at some point, since Riot has openly stated they would like to give her a VGU, I think they'll most likely to Mundo or Corki after Shyvanna, rather than the massive pool of junglers in need of reworks.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=000000010002,timestamp=2019-08-22T00:19:33.657+0000) > > Currently the plan is NewChamp>NewChamp>NewChamp>Fiddle>Volibear, though that is subject to change of course Imagine Volibear winning (even if it's by a slim margin) but releasing him after Fiddle that lost.... You guys.... What is going on....
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=0000000100020004,timestamp=2019-08-22T12:33:08.756+0000) > > Imagine Volibear winning (even if it's by a slim margin) but releasing him after Fiddle that lost.... You guys.... What is going on.... They're not doing it purposely. There simply are different Dev teams working on either champion, and it happens that Fiddle is farther ahead than Voli, becuase there are a lot of different possibilities that the Voli team are attempting, meanwhile Fiddle already has some stable abilities, which is why he is most likely to come out before. It'd be pointless to hold out on Fiddle because Voli won by less than 1%
: She doesn't have a stasis tool? She's still able to be hit by skillshots, unlike fizz and vlad. She also doesn't have sustain anymore, so there goes that argument. She's frustrating but not nearly as bad as people make her out to be, people just find excuses to call her broken now. She's the most balanced she has ever been since being reworked and people are still crying for nerfs. Malz is definitely hated.
> [{quoted}](name=Prestige AkaIi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-08-22T20:05:58.308+0000) > > She doesn't have a stasis tool? She's still able to be hit by skillshots, unlike fizz and vlad. > > She also doesn't have sustain anymore, so there goes that argument. > > She's frustrating but not nearly as bad as people make her out to be, people just find excuses to call her broken now. She's the most balanced she has ever been since being reworked and people are still crying for nerfs. > > Malz is definitely hated. Exactly. She's the most balanced since she's been reworked. That's not a very hard standard to beat. She's been bat-shit broken since release, and she still needs nerfs. She simply can do too much. Three dashes, move speed, a shroud, an execute, and she abuses ranged and melee champions too easily. She is way more balanced than she was when she was released, but she is still an unfair champion to lane against. And nobody likes Fizz or Vlad either. Difference is that neither of them have three dashes, which one of is a stun and the other is an execute. If the first part of Fizz E had 3x the range and was a stun, then the second part was an execute, people would hate him just as much. She's simply too overloaded while being too easily to play overall. Don't get me wrong, there are good Akali players, but the fact is that below Diamond people aren't very good at her and can still climb with relative ease because of all her handicaps built into her kit.
: So many champs nobody likes to play against anyway. At least Akali is fun to play, and takes a few braincells, unlike Malzahar or Nasus. They're already nerfing her though.
> [{quoted}](name=5or6stores,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-22T16:46:06.876+0000) > > So many champs nobody likes to play against anyway. At least Akali is fun to play, and takes a few braincells, unlike Malzahar or Nasus. > They're already nerfing her though. The problem is that she's too slippery. She's like Pyke. She has three dashes and a shroud, and the fact is that two of those dashes do a SHIT ton of damage, and she only really needs her Q, W, and Passive to win fights. She doesn't need to use her E or R to win fights even when she doesn't have a lead. She abuses melee champions with just her Q and passive. And you can't escape her when she gets her AA passive because of the movespeed, which is why she needs a nerf.
Divin1ty (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T15:59:29.830+0000) > > Yeah, you're right. I absolutely love trying to stack my Q or get my Ionian Fervor stacks up while getting triple AA'd by Vayne with PTA for half my hp! Well, atlest Irelia has some forms of getting to them.
> [{quoted}](name=Divin1ty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T16:00:36.809+0000) > > Well, atlest Irelia has some forms of getting to them. Yeah. Some champions do, but the fact is that a fair amount of ADCs being played top/mid have escape abilities, knockback, or slows. Vayne W, Trist W+R, Corki W, Ashe AAs + R, Varus R, etc.
: This kit hasn't always been successful balance-wise, but kit and thematic wise this is one of the best they've done so far. Like it or not, she delivers on exactly what she was promised and doesn't do shit if you know how to play against her. I feel like the mongrels that complain about champs have no idea that other champs are intrinsically the same way. You have to understand what they do so that you can understand the ways to counter them. Then you have to practice countering them yourself by employing those weaknesses. Sometimes, you have to communicate with your JG to effectively gank her by timing her cooldowns and letting her push. Or just play passive and punish and counter her roams and facilitate your own roams. For OP specifically: IDK why the fuck your match history looks like you just quit 3 games after 1 death, but I wouldn't do that. I'm not trying to get dirt on you or anything, I was just seeing if there were some tips I could offer. Irelia vs Akali is a skill matchup, so then if you are losing that, then you have less skill. Either get better on Irelia or pick a counter pick. The mentality of "I don't want to learn how to play against the champ or pick a counter! I just want them gutted!" is such a shitty mentality to have. While she might be overtuned on the numbers side, her kit is always something you can play against. You just need to spend time learning how to do it. Or ban it if that is way too hard. TLDR; Stop rage quitting and get gud.
> [{quoted}](name=Dabrick01,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-22T17:36:40.596+0000) > > This kit hasn't always been successful balance-wise, but kit and thematic wise this is one of the best they've done so far. Like it or not, she delivers on exactly what she was promised and doesn't do shit if you know how to play against her. > > I feel like the mongrels that complain about champs have no idea that other champs are intrinsically the same way. You have to understand what they do so that you can understand the ways to counter them. Then you have to practice countering them yourself by employing those weaknesses. Sometimes, you have to communicate with your JG to effectively gank her by timing her cooldowns and letting her push. Or just play passive and punish and counter her roams and facilitate your own roams. > > For OP specifically: IDK why the fuck your match history looks like you just quit 3 games after 1 death, but I wouldn't do that. I'm not trying to get dirt on you or anything, I was just seeing if there were some tips I could offer. Irelia vs Akali is a skill matchup, so then if you are losing that, then you have less skill. Either get better on Irelia or pick a counter pick. > > The mentality of "I don't want to learn how to play against the champ or pick a counter! I just want them gutted!" is such a shitty mentality to have. While she might be overtuned on the numbers side, her kit is always something you can play against. You just need to spend time learning how to do it. Or ban it if that is way too hard. > > TLDR; Stop rage quitting and get gud. Yeah, IDK what you mean that I'm the bad player in that matchup. Akali beats Irelia by default. If you have to Diamond tier players, at almost equal skill, Irelia will lose that matchup almost every time. It's just the way the matchup is designed. Irelia can hit her E but if Akali uses her Shroud you can't combo her with Q+R+Q+AA+Q. You have to be SIGNIFICANTLY better player to win the early game 1v1, and that's assuming the enemy jungler doesn't gank you. If Akali gets any ganks in that matchup that can either force Irelia out of lane, kill her, or deny her cs, the Akali will snowball the lane with that lead. She's not a hard champion to play at a decent level, and Irelia loses that matchup. You're on crack if you think that the matchup is a skilled one.
: She might use nerfs for her utility/slipperiness. Otherwise she is pretty much counterable. I don't understand. Do you want to be able to counter her with any champion given? Many champions have true vision. Let me count you some: Rengar R Twisted Fate R Karma W LeBlanc E Caitlyn W/R Kai'Sa W Lulu E Lee Sin E And so on. She is pretty easy to shut down with true vision, especially early game. And yeah, if you don't pick something safe such as an Anivia or Jayce, then you'll get countered. Or you can just counter the enemy laner by keeping your champion pool wide :) You should should also freeze the lane if you can. Have a nice day
> [{quoted}](name=MagicTale2000,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-22T16:46:36.681+0000) > > She might use nerfs for her utility/slipperiness. > > Otherwise she is pretty much counterable. I don't understand. Do you want to be able to counter her with any champion given? > > Many champions have true vision. Let me count you some: > > Rengar R > Twisted Fate R > Karma W > LeBlanc E > Caitlyn W/R > Kai'Sa W > Lulu E > Lee Sin E > And so on. > > She is pretty easy to shut down with true vision, especially early game. > > And yeah, if you don't pick something safe such as an Anivia or Jayce, then you'll get countered. > > Or you can just counter the enemy laner by keeping your champion pool wide :) > > You should should also freeze the lane if you can. > > Have a nice day Yeah but the point is you shouldn't have to pick a very specific pool of champions to play against another. It shouldn't be nearly an instant loss if you don't have true vision in your kit. As a player, you shouldn't have to rely on very specifically counterpicking an enemy champion, or have to rely on them misplaying. The problem with her is that she is designed with so many handicaps that even if you are a terrible player, you can still win lane 90% of the time.
: This kit hasn't always been successful balance-wise, but kit and thematic wise this is one of the best they've done so far. Like it or not, she delivers on exactly what she was promised and doesn't do shit if you know how to play against her. I feel like the mongrels that complain about champs have no idea that other champs are intrinsically the same way. You have to understand what they do so that you can understand the ways to counter them. Then you have to practice countering them yourself by employing those weaknesses. Sometimes, you have to communicate with your JG to effectively gank her by timing her cooldowns and letting her push. Or just play passive and punish and counter her roams and facilitate your own roams. For OP specifically: IDK why the fuck your match history looks like you just quit 3 games after 1 death, but I wouldn't do that. I'm not trying to get dirt on you or anything, I was just seeing if there were some tips I could offer. Irelia vs Akali is a skill matchup, so then if you are losing that, then you have less skill. Either get better on Irelia or pick a counter pick. The mentality of "I don't want to learn how to play against the champ or pick a counter! I just want them gutted!" is such a shitty mentality to have. While she might be overtuned on the numbers side, her kit is always something you can play against. You just need to spend time learning how to do it. Or ban it if that is way too hard. TLDR; Stop rage quitting and get gud.
> [{quoted}](name=Dabrick01,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-22T17:36:40.596+0000) > > This kit hasn't always been successful balance-wise, but kit and thematic wise this is one of the best they've done so far. Like it or not, she delivers on exactly what she was promised and doesn't do shit if you know how to play against her. > > I feel like the mongrels that complain about champs have no idea that other champs are intrinsically the same way. You have to understand what they do so that you can understand the ways to counter them. Then you have to practice countering them yourself by employing those weaknesses. Sometimes, you have to communicate with your JG to effectively gank her by timing her cooldowns and letting her push. Or just play passive and punish and counter her roams and facilitate your own roams. > > For OP specifically: IDK why the fuck your match history looks like you just quit 3 games after 1 death, but I wouldn't do that. I'm not trying to get dirt on you or anything, I was just seeing if there were some tips I could offer. Irelia vs Akali is a skill matchup, so then if you are losing that, then you have less skill. Either get better on Irelia or pick a counter pick. > > The mentality of "I don't want to learn how to play against the champ or pick a counter! I just want them gutted!" is such a shitty mentality to have. While she might be overtuned on the numbers side, her kit is always something you can play against. You just need to spend time learning how to do it. Or ban it if that is way too hard. > > TLDR; Stop rage quitting and get gud. You're an unranked Yorick main. Relax. You'd place gold at best if you were to play ranked. You're one of those players that plays a broken champion and uses the excuse of "People just don't know how to play against her." No. That's not how it works. Akali is a failure of a rework, end of story.
Divin1ty (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-22T15:55:32.690+0000) > > Toplane is in a really shitty spot, Riot lets lanebullies like Vayne/Vik/Kenn/Gnar/Jayce exist top and bully almost everyone that they play against. The only "counterplay" to champions like Akali and Kennen in top lane is for them to int you. Even though champs like Jayce and Viktor are in very bad spots they just abuse other top laners and make the game super antifun. Riot needs to fix Akali and nerf ranged toplaners across the board and they need to get ADCs back into bot lane, ADCs top/mid are infuriating to lane against. You mean Tristana jumping in on you and taking away 3/4 of your HP isn't fun?
> [{quoted}](name=Divin1ty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T15:57:41.648+0000) > > You mean Tristana jumping in on you and taking away 3/4 of your HP isn't fun? Yeah, you're right. I absolutely love trying to stack my Q or get my Ionian Fervor stacks up while getting triple AA'd by Vayne with PTA for half my hp!
Divin1ty (EUW)
: B-B-But she is Melee, you can easily punish her! Especially her Q-AA Combo has a lot of Counterplay! Wait...She is played Toplane..let us not give a shit until a few months in to gain Data. Was fine with Riven (and her ''''''nerfs''''''), Viktor, Kennen, Gnar. They don't need treatment, as long as they just abuse Toplaners. :)
> [{quoted}](name=Divin1ty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-22T15:48:36.607+0000) > > B-B-But she is Melee, you can easily punish her! > Especially her Q-AA Combo has a lot of Counterplay! > > Wait...She is played Toplane..let us not give a shit until a few months in to gain Data. > Was fine with Riven (and her ''''''nerfs''''''), Viktor, Kennen, Gnar. > They don't need treatment, as long as they just abuse Toplaners. :) Toplane is in a really shitty spot, Riot lets lanebullies like Vayne/Vik/Kenn/Gnar/Jayce exist top and bully almost everyone that they play against. The only "counterplay" to champions like Akali and Kennen in top lane is for them to int you. Even though champs like Jayce and Viktor are in very bad spots they just abuse other top laners and make the game super antifun. Riot needs to fix Akali and nerf ranged toplaners across the board and they need to get ADCs back into bot lane, ADCs top/mid are infuriating to lane against.
: Akali was a badly designed champ before and after rework They should of actually reworked her instead of saving nearly the entire kit
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=If9HQhUG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-22T15:37:11.775+0000) > > Akali was a badly designed champ before and after rework > > They should of actually reworked her instead of saving nearly the entire kit She was bad before, and after. Pre-rework she was practically Diana, who should be reworked too at some point IMO. But the fact still comes down to her shroud being too unfair to play against in trades, and they should just give her the Mordekaiser treatment at this point.
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Reav3 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-08-21T23:04:19.921+0000) > > Are there going to be reworks in between those three champions? Or is it just going to be Fiddle>Voli>New Champ>New Champ>New Champ? Also, is the price going to change for Surprise Party, given that it is the only legendary in the game to be 975 RP, or is it going to stay at 975? Currently the plan is NewChamp>NewChamp>NewChamp>Fiddle>Volibear, though that is subject to change of course
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=000000010002,timestamp=2019-08-22T00:19:33.657+0000) > > Currently the plan is NewChamp>NewChamp>NewChamp>Fiddle>Volibear, though that is subject to change of course Thanks for clearing this up. I really appreciate Rioters like you that take the time out of their day to talk to the community and clarify things when needed.
: Primetime Draven is the other 975 legendary
> [{quoted}](name=Odd Jobs Rammus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-08-21T23:08:16.165+0000) > > Primetime Draven is the other 975 legendary Right. I was referring mostly to the fact that it's getting an update with the VGU and given how amazing the recent rework skins have been, I bet SP will be very good.
Reav3 (NA)
: Fiddle and Volibear are still planned for next year. We have 3 New Champions currently in production and all ahead of both Voli and Fiddle.
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-21T22:24:52.563+0000) > > Fiddle and Volibear are still planned for next year. We have 3 New Champions currently in production and all ahead of both Voli and Fiddle. Also does that mean that as of now there are no more reworks coming out this year, and the remainder of the year is just going to be the marksman then two different champions?
Reav3 (NA)
: Fiddle and Volibear are still planned for next year. We have 3 New Champions currently in production and all ahead of both Voli and Fiddle.
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JsmKpOUA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-21T22:24:52.563+0000) > > Fiddle and Volibear are still planned for next year. We have 3 New Champions currently in production and all ahead of both Voli and Fiddle. Are there going to be reworks in between those three champions? Or is it just going to be Fiddle>Voli>New Champ>New Champ>New Champ? Also, is the price going to change for Surprise Party, given that it is the only legendary in the game to be 975 RP, or is it going to stay at 975?
Reav3 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=aYgz5mUf,comment-id=000200000006,timestamp=2019-07-01T13:09:18.458+0000) > > When do you think we will see the next champion roadmap? Will it be after Pantheon's rework or slightly before? Probably not going to be another roadmap for awhile since everyone already knows we are working on Fiddle and Volibear. There will however be a dev blog update on Voli and Fiddle in the next month or so
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=aYgz5mUf,comment-id=0002000000060000,timestamp=2019-07-01T17:42:45.867+0000) > > Probably not going to be another roadmap for awhile since everyone already knows we are working on Fiddle and Volibear. There will however be a dev blog update on Voli and Fiddle in the next month or so Are there any reworks that are going to be sandwiched inbetween the new marksman coming out and the Fiddle VGU? It seems like it would be a SUPER long stretch between the marksman, which will most likely come out Late September-Early/Mid October, sometime during the Fall, and Fiddle/Voli, who are slated to come out in 2020. If there aren't any other champs/VGUs coming inbetween, is Fiddle going to come out early, perhaps sometime around December of this year or early January?
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