: Tanks aren't immune to CC, of course, they just aren't as vulnerable to it as squishies are.
Rammus job is to run in and taunt the carries. If cc makes it so he can't do that, and loses the teamfight since he can't do anything else, he is extremely vulnerable to it.
: Tired of NA being stomped by the Asian teams
Well, get used to it. As long as NA has the mentality they have, they aren't winning anything :D
: Your know "open mid" was a big thing in korean solo q and that "Disco Nunu" is also pretty well known in EU. Doesn't seem to be hurting them in international events.
Yeah, but they probably don't say, "omg guy you are so toxic for asking him not to troll wtf wrong with you he having fun itz a gayme nuub". Trust me, if Na keeps the same mentality, they will continue to lose....just as they have been. Feel free to disagree, but track record proves it.
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUp23,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=bfmK4vXE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-10-11T16:41:40.126+0000) > > Except this isn't a hundred years and it randomly happening one year. This is every year of horrid performances. But hey, keep on thinking they will get better if it makes you happy, but they won't. I couldn't care less, I'm just surprised at why people are surprised that NA sucks every year lol. No one is surprised about Na losing Whether they lose in group stages or next stage, they never get further. Neither does EU So coming on forum to brag thinking you foresaw anything special is laughable. Don't worry about Na. Na will never improve when players in s5 laugh at Na top players
Funny, a lot of people sure thought that c9 was for sure making it out of groups at least. I would say that everyone thinking that c9 is getting out of groups would be surprised that they didn't lol.
: You mean Dunkey? He was fucking toxic and deserved to be banned. The troll also deserved to be banned, but Dunkey was feeding a troll like somebody who tries to swing back at a bully and gets caught by the principal. You may not have actually watched the video, but Dunkey told this guy to get gunned down in the street. As a side note, it has even been confirmed by Lyte that his ban was actually not from a game with a Malphite (who Dunkey said was trolling). And your lack of knowledge on the World Cup is even more laughable. The men's team loses because, in America, the boys who want to start playing sports play football, basketball, baseball, or even freaking hockey before picking soccer as a long-term sport. In mos other countries, soccer is the main sport, which makes everyone start playing it. Now, the women's team has much more success because soccer is the first option for most girls playing sports. Likewise, the basketball teams are far ahead of the rest of the world, as the youth likes playing those sports, and games like football are just laughable to consider because America is so far ahead of everyone else. There's a reason why American teams get half the spots in the Little League World Series, and it isn't favoritism.
>The troll also deserved to be banned Yeah, problem being that simple doesn't happen. I'm not saying guy was fine, but this community doesn't vote to punish players like the malph. And honestly, if you're intentionally trying to upset 4 other players, it's not too bad to be gunned down lol. To address your second point, I'm confused as to how you think I don't already know this? I'm saying the reason they chose to play football and such is because our culture has grown to laugh at soccer players and generally consider them the kids that couldn't play football. Culture towards soccer sucks: reason we aren't good at it. Culture towards competition in league sucks: reason we aren't good at it.
Croanin (NA)
: They Couldn't Win One Freakin Game....
Look at NA's mentality towards the game and you will fully understand why NA can't compete with anyone else.
: want to here a joke?
Want to "here" a better joke? Your grammar.
: Lmao Give this man a cookie. His like that guy who "predicts" a world scenario and after hundreds of years he can say, I was right. Seriously, go stroke the ego else where like trying to get out of S5.
Except this isn't a hundred years and it randomly happening one year. This is every year of horrid performances. But hey, keep on thinking they will get better if it makes you happy, but they won't. I couldn't care less, I'm just surprised at why people are surprised that NA sucks every year lol.
: "CC is equally effective against every champion"
Actually CC stops those champs from doing their job as well. Sure, a CC'd Kat will get blown up whereas a CC'd Rammus won't, but that isn't the only thing to consider. I've won MANY teamfights by Fiddle's fearing a Rammus that was barreling towards our ADC, allowing them to stay alive and win us the fight. Considering the game is based on peeling the champs that you think "aren't effected by cc" off your carries WITH CC, I would say it does actually highly effect them.
: Literally nobody has ever said that. I think you're just making up some bullshit.
I've actually seen it quite a bit. Most recently with that guy's video in which he "quit" League over it lol. But whatever, keep waiting for NA to do well. They won't with the shit mentality they have. It's the same reason the men's US soccer team never does anything in the world cup :).
: SKT1 Is Like The Old Pokemon Dragon Type
Yeah, they got their asses beat.
Rioter Comments
: I'm getting absolutely sick and fucking tired of people trying to use "It's the internet" as an excuse to disregard humanity. We live on the fucking Earth. All of us. Your family are humans. Your spouse, children, grandparents, co-workers, the cashier at McDonalds. We are all. Humans. There is no reason (and there will never be a reason) for a certain media to passively ignore the structure of an entire society. Anyone telling me that the internet is a safe place to use mental disabilities as insults and wish for a person's death is wrong. They will always. Be. **Wrong.** And the only way to combat that is to make it a priority. The only way to make sure people fully understand that the internet **is not, and will never be, a place to safely insult other people and disregard their humanity,** is to make it as big of a "deal" as possible. If you're a functioning human being and you get told to kill yourself on the internet, and you know you're not going to, **that does not make it okay for the other person to act so violently.**
I never said it wasn't wrong. I just said don't do it. You wouldn't see me going and waving around a confederate flag and m4 in downtown Youngstown, would you? No, because that's dumb as fuck. Sure, it's **wrong** for them to shoot you, but they will. Quit being such a baby.
: suicide affects more people every day. up-voted because people really shouldn't be at that point over a single game.
On the flip side, it's the internet. If you are that unstable, you probably shouldn't be playing a game known for it's shit community and trolling. During the time that I played League, I was told to kill myself exactly 0 times. Honestly, I'm not sure why everyone is saying that it's a problem.
: PSA: If you rage, please just don't tell people to kill themselves
Meh, for doing bad, absolutely not. If you are intentionally trying to lose just to try and fuck with 4 people, though, then I can't say I disagree.
: Regarding Cho'Gaths and Garens silences.
"Better nerf silences so I can make my super flashy #LC$BIGPLAY$ with my assassin with 0 consequences" is what you sound like.
: 4v5 is the worst gamplay mechanic in ranked!
Yeah. I actually uninstalled the game today for this reason. I worked my way all the way up to gold promos. During the last 2 weeks, 90% of my games have had these players. I'm not even lying, check my match history. My teammates literally averaged going 13-33 over my last 50 games. Dropped from promos to gold all the way down to silver 5. Said fuck this stupid shit, quit, and uninstalled. I don't understand how people can be stupid enough to go 0-9-2. They have absolutely no business playing ranked games. I get that, "it's a game" but you shouldn't be trying out champs in ranked that you have never played before. That's complete bullshit. You shouldn't be allowed to troll mid lane as 5th pick even though mid pick is already selected. That's complete bullshit. Ranked should be for trying to win, play normals if you want to dick around with your duo friend and go 4-21 combined bot lane. It's sad that you can have someone running down the mid lane feeding not get punished, yet you get punished if you telling to stop trolling because, "omg rito he ruin my fun such toxic".
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: After C9 Balls' Pentakill
Love how all the EU guys are crying "omg darius OP only reason they won" lol.
: Dodging is not something Riot want's to support. Instead you should be taking screenshots of these people and making support tickets to report them for their behavior. In the end what would you rather want, lower penalties for dodging or fewer reasons to dodge? I think you can see why Riot takes the stance they do.
That is a waste of a time, though. They don't punish it. They don't punish a single thing in this game except "omg rito he called me troll cuz i trolled top lane. he ruined my fun".
: And C9s baron calls were not dumb or what? Fnatic played better overall, Balls just happened to have Darius.
Yeah, because Darius has been wrecking the LCS....oh wait, he hasn't. Not C9's fault that Yasuo ults only Morg.
Xemeron (NA)
: Fnatic had skills and plays, C9 Had Darius
Fnatic made a bunch of dumb dumb decisions and lost because of it.
: Is it bannable to feed in teambuilder if you inform your team that you will do it?
Sørén (NA)
: Looking for high silvers that don't feed and want to duo
Hey, I was in promos to gold before getting a very unlucky streak of teammates. I'm currently a division below you. Here is my page (you can see I don't feed). http://na.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=LaceUp23
: um ya it is. they cure everything.
: there's not enough context for us to know why they cant breathe. always b cautious (aka ABC)
And being cautious is 100% NOT giving an inhaler if you don't know what's wrong.
Rioter Comments
: me? i looked at the match recordings.. Go see for yourself. But hey, im trying to help. If you dont want my opinion. Then just say so! http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1968126975/229138178?tab=overview
That only shows kills and deaths. Doesn't show who was in fight and who wasn't. Figured you knew that.
: You were in 5 tf through the whole game! one in the begging at thr 10min mark and not before 22min mark. You asked how you could win or improve on thath game and we are answering. Not being rude or anything. So instead of denying it, maybe take it as a lesson to improve as a adc?
I'm curious as to where you're getting your numbers from?
Xinopio (EUW)
: THE WAY TO FIX THE TROLL-AFK-CRYERS ON RANKED, INCLUDE MATCHMAKING CHANGES (BEHAVIOUR SCORE)
: do u need an inhaler
I think he meant from laughing. SOB as a result of laughing too hard is not currently an indication for an inhaler.
: > our intelligence I can't breathe! Have you even seen the average post on here?
: If you are the adc and your top laner is 0-6 by 8 minutes *every game*, then yes you are doing something to cause it and no I don't know what it is until you show me.
: After that FNC vs. AHQ match...
Aka every single teammate I get.
LaceUp23 (NA)
: lf duo to get gold
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUp23,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Kk9R5vcI,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-03T19:35:22.474+0000) > > I don't even know what you're saying. In this game, my kill contribution was 11 out of 19. Braum's was 12, Wukong was 10, and Elise was 9. The only person that really had more was Cho at 16. So please explain how I "afk farmed" even though my kill participation was the same as my teammates. It's not my fault for "afk farming" when my top laner dies 3 mins into the game. Obviously I'm not going to be top helping him 3 mins into the game. Just because its as good as others doesn't mean its good or that it couldn't be better. Why do you think its good to be "as good" as people you consider to be terrible?
Let's think about it this way. I'm not going to run and solo the enemy team as adc, right? No. So, in order to fight them, I will need my team there. Hence if we get kills, our kill contribution is going to be similar! Gasp :O But this thread was for asking advice. Your advice was, "You don't deserve to win if you can't carry 4 0-8 teammates". So if that's all you have to say, you don't have to comment.
Lugg (NA)
: In low ELO, 40% of your games are pretty much unwinnable due to feeders, trolls, etc. You just have to win the rest of the games to move up. Yeah, it sucks, but that's the way it is.
If my past 50 games had a 40%, I would have been gold.
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUp23,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Kk9R5vcI,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-10-03T19:07:27.943+0000) > > I mean, only one person really has a higher kill contribution than me. doesn't matter. If you're a 5/1/2 cait in a game , but literally *everyone* else on the team and enemies has double digits in their kda, ranging from 15/11/5 to 6/11/2, that means that teamfights are happening and you aren't there to support your team. So essentially all the time its a 4v5 no matter how fed you are. Thats what this game is. You're 6/1/5 meanwhile the rest of your team is: 1/10/11 3/9/7 3/10/6 6/11/10 9/3/18 12/1/18 9/5/20 2/2/28 9/8/12 with the exception of wukong, literally EVERY score has double digits in them. The fact that bard was 2/2/28 further confirms that there were teamfights happening that you weren't a part of. So your question on what you're doing wrong? It seems you aren't helping your team when you should and you're afk farming. I'll admit, that was a tough one to figure out. Not until someone said that did I figure it out too. The number one thing I've found thats consistent in all games- If your team's kda is in double digits, yours should too otherwise you're not helping them. The only exception for these are the backdoorers like trynd and jax and yi. If the team can stall long enough and they're either farmed up enough or got fed enough early, they can take down all the turrets and make a comeback easily. But yeah, help your team more.
I don't even know what you're saying. In this game, my kill contribution was 11 out of 19. Braum's was 12, Wukong was 10, and Elise was 9. The only person that really had more was Cho at 16. So please explain how I "afk farmed" even though my kill participation was the same as my teammates. It's not my fault for "afk farming" when my top laner dies 3 mins into the game. Obviously I'm not going to be top helping him 3 mins into the game.
: Show me something other than a scoreboard, and I will gladly.
That doesn't make sense. I'm asking how it's my fault the enemy top lane is 0-6 by 8 mins.
: Not to be rude. Yes elise build is random.. But tanky adc Elise can work. BUT, even if u are 6/1, if you look at ur farm.. You have been farming waay 2 much and have only 5 assist. While the enemy, and the rest of your team, have much more kill contribution. Usually means, u have been spending to much time farming and not been With your team in team fights, Pushes dragons etc.. Its a 5v5. And having a good score means nothing if you loose.
I mean, only one person really has a higher kill contribution than me.
: No, that's not it.
So it's my fault as an ADC that my top laner is 0-6 by 8 mins? Please explain.
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUp23,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Kk9R5vcI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-10-03T18:34:21.152+0000) > > The thing that is "astronomically" wrong is that I continue to get teams that die 4 times in the first 6 mins of the game, place 0 combined wards, chase the enemy support into their unwarded jungle, and try to 1v3 even though they are 0-6. Then they allow the other team to completely snowball out of control. If they don't afk that is. Then they don't even attempt to peel because they are playing champs like Yi. If something wasn't wrong then you wouldn't be having this problem. Even if all the things you say are happening, that wouldn't hold you back unless they were happening disproportionately to you. If you were truly so much better than the players of your rank then you would be winning more than you lose. All those things you complain about have a higher chance of happening on the opposing team than your team.
Statistically having a 2% higher chance and reality are different. This game I posted has literally been about 75% of my games since I got into promos for gold. You can call it disproportionate rate or whatever you want to, but this is my average game. Last game was even worse, team combined for 7-33. 3 of the players were playing a champ they have never played before, not even in norms. So while it might be happening at a disproportionate rate, the fact is that it is still happening so I need to know how to win them.
: Your deaths are very low. Your farm is very high. There is something *astronomically* wrong that isn't showing up in your stats. Like, Bronze VII levels of wrong. It would be good if you recorded your games.
The thing that is "astronomically" wrong is that I continue to get teams that die 4 times in the first 6 mins of the game, place 0 combined wards, chase the enemy support into their unwarded jungle, and try to 1v3 even though they are 0-6. Then they allow the other team to completely snowball out of control. If they don't afk that is. Then they don't even attempt to peel because they are playing champs like Yi.
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUp23,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Kk9R5vcI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-10-03T17:59:04.942+0000) > > In order to climb, I have to win this game. Looking through my match history, about 97% of my loses are this same exact game. Considering I've lost about 90% of my last 50 games and got demoted from gold promos to silver 4, I actually do have to win this game if I want more than a 10% win rate. So I ask how lol. I would suggest you use replay.gg. It sends you a link to rewatch your game after the match. From there you can have total map awareness and see what mistakes you made. Did it for a while, boosted my mmr on op.gg about 200 points. Stopped doing it because school started but meh, if your serious about climbing (Unlike me), it could be something to consider. Another question I have to ask is, Were you toxic? Staying positive and encouraging teamates can help them try harder. If you demote them and say gg after first blood, they may not be as driven to succeed. (Not saying you were, I just know that toxicity can lead to full-team tilt.)
Google wouldn't let me download the op.gg replay thing. I tried to use lolrecorder but my computer wouldn't allow it to run. Kept getting pop up messages about virus. I had a 10 game chat restriction about a month ago. And those 10 games were literally because I told someone not to be dumb enough to play with a shit internet. He was afking the entire game and said, "It's been doing this the past couple weeks. Getting a new modem soon." So that's not even worth a 10 game chat restriction in my opinion. Nothing toxic recently. I only tell them "gj" and "nice try" now. Except to say things like, "you should upgrade trinket". Even tried muting everyone for a game. Didn't work as my last game team had a combined score of 7 kills to 33 deaths and 6 combined assist.
: How do i get a verbal abuse complaint for a match i dc from and never got to play????
They probably reported you for verbal abuse since that is the only report that is even looked at. If they report you for afk, nothing happens. If enough people report you for verbal, you might get a punishment. Since you should get punished, you get reported for verbal. I report all my afks/intentional feeders for verbal since it the single report that gets looked at.
: Lol wtf is that elise build, I don't even play elise and I know that's wrong xD And you don't, you just move on.
90% of my games are this. So I can't just move on if I want more than 10% win rate.
: You really can't win that game. All you can do is look for your own mistakes and apply them to your next game. I feel for ya - the silver climb is the hardest climb. But you can't help anyone but yourself.
In order to climb, I have to win this game. Looking through my match history, about 97% of my loses are this same exact game. Considering I've lost about 90% of my last 50 games and got demoted from gold promos to silver 4, I actually do have to win this game if I want more than a 10% win rate. So I ask how lol.
: Can bronze and silver get something at the end of season too?
Silver does get something. They get a border. Bronze doesn't deserve anything.
LaceUp23 (NA)
: lf duo to get gold
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