: Permanent ban after 1 game
chat logs or it didn't happen
Doodlzzz (NA)
: Mordekaiser's ult makes him a really unfun champion to play against
I think the rest of his kit is more unfun than the ult lol
: Many years ago, LoL's behavior system used something called the Tribunal, comprising player volunteers who logged into a system that showed them chat logs from reported players. Those volunteers would then vote on whether to punish or pardon the reported player's case. This system's main flaw was that it simply took far too long due to LoL's huge playerbase. Participants would often be reviewing chat logs that were several months old, with a growing backlog. In addition to that, not every participant took the task seriously: some would spam the same verdict for every case without even reading the chat log, or even invert their verdicts on purpose. The current system, called the Instant Feedback System, or IFS, is automated software that uses machine learning to determine what behavior should be punishable and when a player's behavior should be punished. It started with data from the Tribunal, and has been learning and adapting for years. It operates on the same basic principles as a spam filter: get a corpus of data (emails/chat logs), have humans categorize each item as acceptable or unacceptable, find patterns within each category, and then finally look for those patterns to automatically categorize new items without direct human evaluation. Each report is like clicking the "spam" button. When a new pattern starts to get lots of reports, the IFS recognizes it as a new form of toxicity. The IFS is efficient and unbiased. The Tribunal was not. TL;DR: Tried, didn't work.
I say we keep the IFS system and bring back the tribunal for people reported for trolling.
: Why does matchmaking come up with so many blowouts?
It's because people who are in losing matchups continue to try and fight for some reason instead of letting teammates carry them.
KyraSun (EUNE)
: bot lane exists
Sydney26 (EUW)
: Duo has no place in a SoloQ! Your Opinion?
It really doesn't. And with flexQ, there is no reason for it to be there.
GigglesO (NA)
: Stage a Protest?
Already done lol
: if someone does ultimate bravery in ranked but does well is that reportable?
I honestly don't think so. If they're trying their best to win, without ruining the game for others, then off meta shouldn't be an issue. The problem is then people go "support singed", and just afk run around the map. That's not trying to win and it's ruining the game for teammates. Now, if my bot lane wants to go AP, that's perfectly fine. If my ADC wants to play Crittlesticks, I don't care. As long as they aren't trying it for the first time in ranked and trying to win.
: If mobile league is the celebration for the 10 year anniversary. Im done.
My only thought it how the fuck have I been playing this game for 8 years lol
: How bad is Singed?
Bad enough that if a teammate picks him, I know I'm going to have a bad time.
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUpXX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qz1jtEEO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-12T21:22:13.174+0000) > > I mean, it's free stuff. Do we have to put time into getting it? There’s more currency in The world than just money my guy
Ok. Remove it then so nobody can complain they don't get enough free stuff.
: "event" "mission" "rewards"
I mean, it's free stuff.
Leetri (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUpXX,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R1ae7F7h,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-12T14:28:22.867+0000) > > "You need X mastery level to play a champ in ranked." > > Boom. Problem solved. Boom. 95% of the ranked population can't play ranked because they don't have X mastery of 20 different champions. No one can trade champions either and if the 1 champion they have available for Y role is banned they have to play something off-meta cause the game won't allow them to pick someone else in that role.
> [{quoted}](name=Leetri,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R1ae7F7h,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-09-12T15:17:47.306+0000) > > Boom. 95% of the ranked population can't play ranked because they don't have X mastery of 20 different champions. No one can trade champions either and if the 1 champion they have available for Y role is banned they have to play something off-meta cause the game won't allow them to pick someone else in that role. Yeah, I find it extremely had to believe 95% of players do not have mastery on 20 champions. Mastery has been out of a long time now.
Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUpXX,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R1ae7F7h,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-12T14:28:22.867+0000) > > "You need X mastery level to play a champ in ranked." > > Boom. Problem solved. I've played a total of 8 champions in ranked this season. Six of them have been played 3 times or less. So to play ranked, I need to get mastery x on 18 champions I have no intention of actually playing in ranked?
> [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R1ae7F7h,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-09-12T14:34:29.374+0000) > > I've played a total of 8 champions in ranked this season. Six of them have been played 3 times or less. > > So to play ranked, I need to get mastery x on 18 champions I have no intention of actually playing in ranked? Yes. Because by the sounds of it, if your 2 champs are banned, you're autolosing the game because you have no clue how to play anything else.
Tsuko (NA)
: I'd love to see someone try to defend on how "First timing champions in ranked is perfectly fine".
"You need X mastery level to play a champ in ranked." Boom. Problem solved.
Hjelp (NA)
: An unpopular opinion.
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUpXX,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eUrsVVF0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-11T01:59:27.890+0000) > > Did they say mean things in chat? If not then they're perfectly fine and you're ruining the game for not waiting them to play how they want. #ritologic You had me in the first half they have actually brain washed players into actually thinking that lmao This is why fortnite has taken over and this game is declining hard.
> [{quoted}](name=AtGenuwhine36,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eUrsVVF0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-11T02:01:22.949+0000) > > You had me in the first half they have actually brain washed players into actually thinking that lmao This is why fortnite has taken over and this game is declining hard. They actually have brainwashed the community into thinking that lol. It's like they cry about "toxicity" in League, but don't want to do anything to actually fix it other than "ban flamers". Because that has worked the past 6 years.
: Tried to play 3 pre 30 normal games today guess how they went
Did they say mean things in chat? If not then they're perfectly fine and you're ruining the game for not waiting them to play how they want. #ritologic
: Walk around your neighbourhood safely
LaceUpXX (NA)
: Client QoL buff
Zanzig (NA)
: AUTOFILL IN RANKED: BAN A ROLE
It's really only support that people complain about getting. When autofilled elsewhere, you can pretty much swap everytime. It's just that people refuse to learn 2 or 3 support champions to be proficient with. If there was a ban, everyone would just ban support and we would have no games. Most of the "bottom lane can't auto attack" players that you see are simply trolling by "trying new things" in ranked.
Dukues (NA)
: It's season 9.. who the fuck cares. omg... you lost with a shitty fucking duo bot? omfg.... no way dude....... I get it but at the same time it's literally been the same for forever???? People realllyyyyyyyyyy like to shit on duos for being a huge problem but it really isn't. The only time I could see bitching about it is in like master elo or high diamond. Other than that.... its really not something to cry about.
We also haven't had flexQ forever. The moment they implemented flexQ, duos should have been removed from soloQ. And let me reiterate, there is not a single thing negative about duos being in flexQ. They have no hindrance on their play. They can still play ranked games. I'm not advocating duos not be allowed in ranked.
: Yeah just play under tower, don't overextend to get cs and wait as they slowpush for the inevitable 2v1 towerdive w/ their jungler.
The massive amount of players are in silver and gold. It's not like the enemy is good enough to counter your every mistake at these elos. It's the constant dying, giving of free gold and map pressure, that snowballs game the majority of times in these elos.
: That's such a strange stance to take. There's currently more overt, flat, accessible damage than the game has ever seen, in a time when they also decided to remove multiple sources of vision. Mobility and CDR are more prevalent than any previous iteration of the game. Towers are gold pieces stacked on top of one another. How much of this did the players decide?
And even with all that, if the enemy laner is better than me, I can still play safe and farm up and wait for advantages to fight.
LaceUpXX (NA)
: Reason #1 we need a soloQ
inb4 "TrOlLs Do GeT pUnIsHeD" inb4 "flamers are the problem in the game and if we keep focusing our efforts on banning flamers league will become less toxic"
Rioter Comments
: Same here. It used to be if you were countered there was a 60% chance of a loss 40% chance you could outplay. Now it's 95% chance loss. 5% outplay. And then there's the random X factor. When you're the counter the enemy jungler runs to lane cheese ganks you for 80% health so you have to give up all lane priority or feed. It does feel like there's very little player skill involved anymore. People just faceroll with OP champs and feast or famine to victory. Its soul-destroying...............
> [{quoted}](name=MyTeamRDumbasses,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=96wWHZrf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-20T10:31:41.559+0000) > > It does feel like there's very little player skill involved anymore. People just faceroll with OP champs and feast or famine to victory. Its soul-destroying............... And that's 100% the playerbase's fault. People just need to learn to play safer if the enemy is better.
: How did you NOT see the top lane teemo with ghost and smite who built mobis, zzrot, deadmans, and was building what looks like a ghostblade? How on earth did you not do enough research to see it? Its the third to last game in his history? The 3-12-3 teemo? I found it in 3 seconds.
People are so hell bent on defending trolls for some reason. I really don't understand it. Gives first blood sitting in their jg on "invade". Spends 85% of the game just running around through the jungles dying to enemies for no reason. Builds straight troll. But "omg no he didn't troll you're lying I'm even going to say his cs score wasn't 2 despite the fact that 64 cs in 31 minute game is a cs 2 but nope you're lying about that everything else". The same people then turn around and complain that League has one of the most "toxic" communities without realizing it's the reason why.
Aladoron (EUW)
: No, no, you do not understand. Trolls, AFKs, Inters are no problem. CHAT is what we play for. Why would you go to play ranked if not for the chat? O.o Winning games, climbing ladder? LoL, that's so S1 thing, we are here to chat!
My issue is that people always complain about toxicity in League (and it's widely regarded as one of, if the not the, most toxic communities), but don't want to do anything to fix it.
rujitra (NA)
: This is how the system works. One confirmed instance of trolling, griefing, or intentional feeding is enough to get banned. The operative word here is **confirmed**. Someone trying to steal the enemy's buff is not indicative of malicious behavior. I also highly doubt he "buil[t] all speed items", given I can't find a single player like that in your account's match history over the past 24 hours. And no, they don't put "way more focus". In fact, the amount of effort put into toxic chat behaviors is next to none given it is virtually all automated. Yes, there is work put into maintaining the systems/etc. but that work is not work that would make any meaningful difference in the amount of trolls punished. It has nothing to do with the amount of work put in - putting more work into it won't suddenly increase the amount of evidence against players.
>someone trying to steal the enemy's buff is not indicative of malicious behavior. While leaving stealth as soon as buff spawns while 3 enemies are there, it is. >I also highly doubt he "buil[t] all speed items" Boots of switfness into ZZ. When asked why by a teammate, his response was "I want to go fast". Then build deadmans. Next item build was going into ghostblad. These items on a Teemo. A cs score of 2 because he literally "went fast" around the enemy jg most of the game dying repeatedly.
Prandine (NA)
: Hello. I've removed the image as we don't allow naming and shaming on the forums. That aside I get that inters and trolls are frustrating, and I've had my fair share of them too. That said, it's not that Riot doesn't ban them-they do, but it just takes longer compared to simple chat related offenses (which the mute button does not excuse btw) due to Riot wanting to make sure beyond a shadow of a doubt they're behaving like that regularly. Yes these kinds of players ideally should be punished faster than they are now, but PB alone has plenty of threads of inters and trolls being banned. Feel free to contact us at the [Moderation Discord](https://discordapp.com/channels/230113905668653056/306220435262144512) or at [Discuss the Boards]( https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) for any questions, comments or concerns about this. Thank you and have a good day.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E3onAOAi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-19T02:22:41.343+0000) > > Hello. I've removed the image as we don't allow naming and shaming on the forums. Fair. When I previewed the image his name was cut off so I thought that everyone saw the same image. My point is that it should take 1 game of trolling to get banned. This player at the start of the game went and sat in their jg and died 1v3 "trying to steal buff". He then pretty much ran around the map dying on purpose building all speed items saying "i like to go fast". My argument was that rito doesn't focus enough resources into banning trolling players. They put way more focus on "toxic" chat. Example the entire Lyte debacle that literally did not make any differences in the game whatsoever. There is a toxicity problem in the game. I completely agree with that. My point is that banning "flamers" isn't going to solve the problem. It's obvious that it won't in theory, and their many efforts to do so are clear evidence that it doesn't work. If you don't address the problem, you won't come up with a solution. I understand you have no pull in the matter though, I'm just venting lol.
Rioter Comments
: Is having fun possible now in League of Legends ? I'm not sure...
When my mid laner goes 1-14 in the first 25 mins of the game and my top laner also has 10 deaths, not League is not fun. Trolls are what makes this game unfun.
: Garen's E can critically strike, but no one cared about that
If you build crit on Garen you're a free win for the other team.
: The word is never going to die and kicking up a fuss about it every time it's used just ensures it has power. Way to be the very thing you are fighting against.
: Accidentally said the N word not HARD R.. (Im black if it helps...)
Yeah, and then everyone will start using it racially and say, "I'm black I shouldn't be punished for it." You don't have a webcam so it's not like we can really tell. Also, I really wish the word would just die off already. I'm not sure why it's used so much when it's rooted in hate. I don't see many Jewish people going around calling each other offensive slur words lol.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LaceUpXX,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=IYhkxXpz,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-15T12:06:15.394+0000) > > This is bait. What exactly am I trying to bait people into?
DaBooosh (NA)
: How do I counter garen?
I play Garen a decent amount. I'm lower elo but will tell you what gives me trouble when I play him. Champions that have the ability to continually stop his passive. This can either be ranged champions or champions with ranged abilities on lower CDs. Bait out his Q. HIs wave clear is bad early, so remember that. Let him push lane because he isn't that hard of a gank (even with Q). Do not stay in lane with low HP after 6. Even if you're around tower. His tower dive is easy kill post 6. It's better to lose the 4 cs than to die to him. Garen is hard to carry with if not ahead as he is a very stat heavy champion. I've found playing against AD tops is harder because when you're AP, I can rush spirit visage for not only the stats but the passive healing bonus. Champs that can out sustain him are good too.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: He literally accused a higher ranked player's playstyle of being inting.
: Aatrox isn't broken. Just strong. His wr 48,5% wr in Plat+, 49% in Diamond, 48,8 in Master, 49% in GM, and got his "needed" 50% in Challenger. U see Aatrox every game because players likes play him and it's teamfights machine.
Winrate alone isn't a very good measurement statistic. He also has one of the lower games played by playerbase and higher playrate...meaning the people that play him are very inexperienced with him most of the time...thus lowering his win rate.
Barkley (NA)
: Yeah, I mean --- This is the only community-requested thing Riot has ever dropped the ball on literally ever. So I doubt they'd want to tarnish their nearly flawless reputation of listening to their players and giving them well-deserved QOL improvements. They care too much. So I'm sure they'll get around to this very soon.
Hey, they've listened to their player base before! Like that one time they were going to nerf Zed or Riven and massive cri cri made them change their mind xD
Rioter Comments
: its not only me. me saying "5 of my arams would have been remade" would mean 2 of them was me 3 was someone else.
I know it's not just you. A lot of people are having this issue. The difference is that they keep loading up into ranked games and ruining for their teammates. That's why I'm thanking you for not being that person. Even though it's rito's shit client.
: one reason why im not playing ranked anymore since 9.14
Thank you for not playing ranked if you're experiencing this issue. It completely sucks, but as a fellow player I appreciate you.
: based on this forum, you might be mistaken
I see a lot on this forum about chat bans, not really much on trolling bans.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CallMeTheSheriff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=83PzMLnh,comment-id=0001000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-28T12:14:15.276+0000) > > There really isn't anything to discuss. **You have no idea what you're talking about lol.** How exactly?
Because you said if a champion doesn't have a heal or shield they aren't support. That clearly shows you have no knowledge of the support role or the definition or support in general. Now that I've explained the painfully obvious, I'm out. Have a good one, sir.
rujitra (NA)
: You know, if you'd reported these people in client, virtually certain they would've been instantly punished. Given you refuse to do so because you can't put any trust in the automated system, these people are given more time to ruin games.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CallMeTheSheriff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=83PzMLnh,comment-id=00010000000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-27T12:37:17.197+0000) > > Your original post had the quote, "if you're not shielding and/or healing, you're not a support. You're just another damage champ." Leona doesn't heal or shield, so therefore, by your opinion, she isn't a support champion. Yes and in my second post I clearly stated that she was a damage champ and not a support. Now can we please stop arguing semantics and discuss this?
There really isn't anything to discuss. You have no idea what you're talking about lol.
Pyrosan (NA)
: The game feels boring as it is right now
I don't get the whole "make 1 mistake thing and you lose game" idea that everyone is saying. It's still not hard to play safe and get carried if ur enemy laner has a lead. Sure, maybe it's because I'm only gold Elo, but I also saw some great comebacks in pro play. The problem isn't the games ability to let you come back, it's the mindset. People have developed this "get fed and carry or feed and lose" mindset. Where they don't play safe if behind and just keep trying to get kills.
: Please give us the option to remove showing champion mastery in lobby
The people uneducated enough to make comments like that aren't going to stop because your champion mastery is hiding. It'll just turn into "omg refund skin" or "why you pick that lane if you suck at it".
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