Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: +1 to respect riot
You can tell when riot is ninja'ing a post when all the posts that usually get a bunch of up votes are sitting barely even, or in negatives, and all the posts that normally get downvoted, are getting upvoted.. lol...
: Soooo what's the reason having a death recap if it doesn't even work?
Think Riot needs to stop releasing champs, and re do the entire code of the game...
: I mean the company released champion that has dogshit win rate in diamond + but still manages to be 3rd most banned champion in diamond + and they are like, yeah that seems fine, maybe even buff it. Either they are completely clueless(which would explain a lot about current state of the game) or they just dont give a shit. Just tweak the numbers bro fuck design who cares that its not fun to play against if its 50% wr.
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Tie Me Up,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0ZxkxRs3,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T13:00:08.713+0000) > > I mean the company released champion that has dogshit win rate in diamond + but still manages to be 3rd most banned champion in diamond + and they are like, yeah that seems fine, maybe even buff it. Either they are completely clueless(which would explain a lot about current state of the game) or they just dont give a shit. Just tweak the numbers bro fuck design who cares that its not fun to play against if its 50% wr. Goes to show intelligent posts always get downvoted lol.
: i just played Jinx, and got my ass handed to me, but you know what? it was FUN this game mode is super fun! even if you lose, who cares? it doesn't need competitive or meta, it's just fun! who cares if 90% of champs are "optimal"? so long as you're having fun?
> [{quoted}](name=JoeAnarchy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9xnEfJb,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-16T00:51:10.113+0000) > > i just played Jinx, and got my ass handed to me, but you know what? it was FUN this game mode is super fun! even if you lose, who cares? it doesn't need competitive or meta, it's just fun! who cares if 90% of champs are "optimal"? so long as you're having fun? Speak to me in a few weeks once the novelty has worn off.
: If they're willing to do mode specific balance they should just bring back Dominion. It had a dedicated core playerbase. I bet a lot of those people would come back. I think you're focusing on the wrong problems with Nexus Blitz. Sure the balance is fucked right now and you only want certain champs but they can fix that. It's just numbers. The problem with Nexus blitz is it actually has nothing unique going for it. Why would anyone play this instead of SR honestly? I just don't get it. What's the unique experience to be had here?
> [{quoted}](name=Khristophoros,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9xnEfJb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-16T00:44:08.180+0000) > > If they're willing to do mode specific balance they should just bring back Dominion. It had a dedicated core playerbase. I bet a lot of those people would come back. > > I think you're focusing on the wrong problems with Nexus Blitz. Sure the balance is fucked right now and you only want certain champs but they can fix that. It's just numbers. > > The problem with Nexus blitz is it actually has nothing unique going for it. Why would anyone play this instead of SR honestly? I just don't get it. What's the unique experience to be had here? I don't understand why they dumpstered Dominion to begin with. It was a very fun game mode. Had its own core of strategies, and honestly could of had its own ranking system.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9xnEfJb,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-16T00:31:52.641+0000) > I forget the names of the other game modes, but there were several that were 15 mins and hella fun. Like the 3 lanes trying to push into the base with 1 team defending. That was fun. Didn't last long, and many champs were viable and interesting ti play with on that mode. I think ur talking about nexus siege but yeah I love that mode too it's pretty dynamic
> [{quoted}](name=Vah Naboris,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9xnEfJb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-16T00:43:18.204+0000) > > I think ur talking about nexus siege but yeah I love that mode too it's pretty dynamic Nexus Siege, thank you.
: as a tryn main...Tryn's win condition is to make fewer mistakes than the enemy. If you think about it a little more. You can easily out trade tryn. Be a ranged champ and eventually you can kill him. The only time he has an advantage is when he's right next to you at full fury. Other than that, he's pretty much a weak auto attacker
> [{quoted}](name=IM A BAD TRYN,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FEJmEMbA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-08-15T18:44:19.822+0000) > > as a tryn main...Tryn's win condition is to make fewer mistakes than the enemy. If you think about it a little more. You can easily out trade tryn. Be a ranged champ and eventually you can kill him. The only time he has an advantage is when he's right next to you at full fury. Other than that, he's pretty much a weak auto attacker You're joking right? With Tiamat, or Statik Shiv, or fuck both.. You're a monster farmer. Doesn't matter how far behind you are, go to a lane nobody else is at, and push that mofo with those items, and youl'l get swimming in gold in no time, and if anyone dares try to stop you you can get away rather easily, especially if you aren't a total bronze tard and know hwo to ward properly... There is no putting Tryndamere behind. YOu can delay him momentarily, but if you dont end the game by 30 minutes, its gg. he's right back up to 1 shotting your adc, and critting your tank to half health in 2 shots every 1 second...
: Make Blood Moon Permanent.
> [{quoted}](name=painkills,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9xnEfJb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-16T00:32:43.510+0000) > > Make Blood Moon Permanent. Honestly would like to see Ascension, or Urf, or that one other one I mentioned which was hella fun. All of them are pretty quick, and you can play a plethora of champs and have fun.
Rioter Comments
: At first, I thought this was a video making fun of Leona, but now I see it's just a typical silver game.
> [{quoted}](name=9RCkAbz2Xc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ac9OW0P4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-15T21:59:28.137+0000) > > At first, I thought this was a video making fun of Leona, but now I see it's just a typical silver game. Typical any game. THey couldn't do anything after 8 mins, simply because we had 1 good rotation bot. GG...
: tbf anyone not accounting for a champion's mobility is making an error.
> [{quoted}](name=Sèx Crazed Eve,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kiuEEJ8Q,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-08-15T13:43:37.000+0000) > > tbf anyone not accounting for a champion's mobility is making an error. You mean like the whole Riot balance team?
: Care to share? Lol. Level 97, 5 months of grinding, only 35 total champs to show for it. Rip. :/
> [{quoted}](name=theChibiTina,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RidXslR6,comment-id=000f0003,timestamp=2018-08-15T10:35:43.365+0000) > > Care to share? Lol. Level 97, 5 months of grinding, only 35 total champs to show for it. Rip. :/ That's more than you'd of had before the BE system, what's your point?
: Currently Jungle is the least played I think. At least support you can pick a mage or run it down with Ali and have fun. If you have no clue what you are doing in jungle you just get crapped on.
> [{quoted}](name=HaIlMonitor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uctaLBb3,comment-id=00000007,timestamp=2018-08-15T03:12:35.675+0000) > > Currently Jungle is the least played I think. At least support you can pick a mage or run it down with Ali and have fun. If you have no clue what you are doing in jungle you just get crapped on. Jungle is least played because it has the highest impact potential, and carry potential. It also requires the most forsight, and understanding of how the games develop. Not to mention if ANYTHING goes wrong on your team, its your fault. Top, bottom, and mid could all feed 5 kills in 5 minutes, but its your fault you weren't in 3 lanes at once to stop each death simultaneously.
: > [{quoted}](name=JedenVojak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uctaLBb3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-14T19:48:54.234+0000) > > You know you're right... they should just take jungle out of the team selection. > > In fact, there should_ be no team selection_, no roles should be assigned before the match - the players should just figure it out for themselves. "WELCOME TO SOLO QUE WHERE THE ROLES ARE MADE UP AND OBJECTIVES DONT MATTER!" -Who's Lane is it, Anyways? 2024
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uctaLBb3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-08-14T19:52:17.116+0000) > > "WELCOME TO SOLO QUE > > WHERE THE ROLES ARE MADE UP AND OBJECTIVES DONT MATTER!" > > -Who's Lane is it, Anyways? 2024 This made me laugh harder than it should have.
Paroe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RidXslR6,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-08-15T05:48:29.357+0000) > > never understood the complaints and whining about BE... You get free Runes now.. I remember 5 years ago grinding my ass off at lvl 30 just to buy 2 full pages of tier 3 runes.. took me weeks... You get that shit for free now... > > Back then I didnt get champion shards, free champion skins, and a bunch of other shit either that I had to save up for.. This also saves you BE in the long run for new accounts, save your champ shards, gg. Or just sell them, even so, some champ shards are worth 3 cheap champions.. > > Wtf is BE for anyway? I'm sitting on like 300k of that useless crap with nothing to spend it on.. Correction: You get _Masteries_ with flat stats based on your focus. You also get _less_ BE with the asian market oriented level up system than you would per game, per the same amount of 25 minute games it takes to level up, with the old system. Further... Youre bitching about things you have no idea of, because youre someone who has never _ran into the problems the current generation is facing_. The game _FEELS_ like a thousand times the grind it was, it feels less impactful when you get a new champ unless youre chasing flavors, and you get the same amount of freebies you always did when the hextech system was implented.
> [{quoted}](name=Paroe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RidXslR6,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2018-08-15T05:56:12.430+0000) > > Correction: You get _Masteries_ with flat stats based on your focus. > You also get _less_ BE with the asian market oriented level up system than you would per game, per the same amount of 25 minute games it takes to level up, with the old system. > > Further... Youre bitching about things you have no idea of, because youre someone who has never _ran into the problems the current generation is facing_. > The game _FEELS_ like a thousand times the grind it was, it feels less impactful when you get a new champ unless youre chasing flavors, and you get the same amount of freebies you always did when the hextech system was implented. Feeling or not, its not true. It isn't slower, and it's not worse than before. You didn't have to grind 40 games to get a champion, and another 300 games to get a full tier 3 rune page. (Ok numbers aren't exact but you get the point). Not only that, you have to take into account the potential numerous free champions I never got either through combining champion shards. Trust me Kiddo, you "new generation" have it better.
Rioter Comments
SEKAI (OCE)
: Riot sppears to have secretly nerfed the minimum BE of the level-up capsule
never understood the complaints and whining about BE... You get free Runes now.. I remember 5 years ago grinding my ass off at lvl 30 just to buy 2 full pages of tier 3 runes.. took me weeks... You get that shit for free now... Back then I didnt get champion shards, free champion skins, and a bunch of other shit either that I had to save up for.. This also saves you BE in the long run for new accounts, save your champ shards, gg. Or just sell them, even so, some champ shards are worth 3 cheap champions.. Wtf is BE for anyway? I'm sitting on like 300k of that useless crap with nothing to spend it on..
: You're saying riot is "creating a toxic environment" because of the bad decisions you made that game. You could've played that much better even after the fat finger incident.
> [{quoted}](name=MOLTinaTOR,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lthr7HeE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-11T17:07:58.708+0000) > > You're saying riot is "creating a toxic environment" because of the bad decisions you made that game. You could've played that much better even after the fat finger incident. Ok, I'm really sorry but I shouldn't have to point out that how good or bad I did has nothing to do with this.
: This post literally makes no sense. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=MOLTinaTOR,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lthr7HeE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-11T13:52:04.027+0000) > > This post literally makes no sense. > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Sorry the logic is over your head. If you sit and think about it, you may be able to figure it out.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: My only problem with her is how long her w lasts if she's constantly weaving in and out of it. Mostly because it can be impossible to even get an aa off on her in those intervals when she's out of the thing. It feels like she goes back into stealth just a little too fast.
> [{quoted}](name=The Soulforged,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2018-08-10T21:09:57.370+0000) > > My only problem with her is how long her w lasts if she's constantly weaving in and out of it. Mostly because it can be impossible to even get an aa off on her in those intervals when she's out of the thing. It feels like she goes back into stealth just a little too fast. Attack move, .00001 seconds of her leaving you hit her.. problem solved.
: She's ungankable.
> [{quoted}](name=Docterfreeze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=001b,timestamp=2018-08-10T20:20:39.663+0000) > > She's ungankable. yea so is every other assassin.. whats your point?
: If it was easy to make a game like this, Riot would have been beat already. People easily forget how much competition League has squashed. DotA, HoN, Dawngate, HotS... pretty sure there are others I'm forgetting. Pretty sure Riot aren't mentally challenged. They've been able to beat out that competition with a superior product. Balance is part of that. Really easy to be an armchair designer; much harder to actually do it.
> [{quoted}](name=KnightsKemplar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX9QEfKr,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T16:12:46.965+0000) > > If it was easy to make a game like this, Riot would have been beat already. People easily forget how much competition League has squashed. > > DotA, HoN, Dawngate, HotS... pretty sure there are others I'm forgetting. > > Pretty sure Riot aren't mentally challenged. They've been able to beat out that competition with a superior product. Balance is part of that. Really easy to be an armchair designer; much harder to actually do it. Mostly because League was in a strong place at the time, and wasn't a complete joke, or becoming a joke. I'll bet if they popped up right now, they would of become more popular. THe only thing league has going for it, is the smoothest controls in any moba, and the great characters and art.. that's it. Mechanically and gameplay is trash.
: I think if Akali's Shroud didn't prevent turrets from firing on her, she'd be near perfect. Remove that, and she improves - but of course, we know the guy who made Yasuo and Kalista can't make a champion without putting _something_ utterly stupid in their kit.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2018-08-10T14:41:19.977+0000) > > I think if Akali's Shroud didn't prevent turrets from firing on her, she'd be near perfect. Remove that, and she improves - but of course, we know the guy who made Yasuo and Kalista can't make a champion without putting _something_ utterly stupid in their kit. Honestly even though I think she's perfectly bvalanced atm. It makes me contradict myself to say akali's W doesn't need changing imo. Because I am of the complete belief that towers need a monster buff in every direction. Damage, Defense, and Utility.. Towers should see through everything, period. Their damage should be doubled, if not tripled what they are now, and their defense doubled that never diminishes. Riot argues strong towers that stall out the game at early/mid/late game isn't good, butt hen I look at Dota who's towers are like 200% more effective, and it gives the towers purpose, focus, strategy, and tactics around them. Hell Dota towers can even be repaired...
: I don't know about squishy, maybe AP Akali. But I've seen tank Akalis (Steraks, Titanic, etc.) put out damage that is on par, if better than AP and be able to sustain well.
> [{quoted}](name=TheSymbolÔfPeace,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2018-08-10T11:50:31.687+0000) > > I don't know about squishy, maybe AP Akali. But I've seen tank Akalis (Steraks, Titanic, etc.) put out damage that is on par, if better than AP and be able to sustain well. That again comes down to some broken items, and the electrocute + ignite combo which is totally brokenly OP right now.
Auccuatt (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T02:27:39.750+0000) > > Damn now I can't respond with "Balance in all things" they took away her quote lol. Ironic since she seem sto be the most balanced. Okay, but balance in all things is what Kennen says.
> [{quoted}](name=Auccuatt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2018-08-10T09:50:36.078+0000) > > Okay, but balance in all things is what Kennen says. It's what the old akali used to say as well.
: I honestly have no idea, but I have a feeling that she might be quite balanced if damage wasn't this retarded. But the way things stand now, she one shots me with 1-2 items just as any other assassin in the game and the fact that she can do it and just run back to her untargetability zone actually makes her the most annoying assassin in the game, definitely not the one with least counterplay, but she sure as hell is frustrating to face. Also don't forget that some champions in the game absolutely can't touch her because all their abilities are targeted and you already hardly have the most balanced champion. All in all, her shroud and ult are way too fucking overloaded, but never expected anything else from CT champion, honestly I am quite shocked that Q and E aren't gamebreaking as well.
> [{quoted}](name=DoktorKaiser,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2018-08-10T08:29:52.437+0000) > > I honestly have no idea, but I have a feeling that she might be quite balanced if damage wasn't this retarded. But the way things stand now, she one shots me with 1-2 items just as any other assassin in the game and the fact that she can do it and just run back to her untargetability zone actually makes her the most annoying assassin in the game, definitely not the one with least counterplay, but she sure as hell is frustrating to face. Also don't forget that some champions in the game absolutely can't touch her because all their abilities are targeted and you already hardly have the most balanced champion. All in all, her shroud and ult are way too fucking overloaded, but never expected anything else from CT champion, honestly I am quite shocked that Q and E aren't gamebreaking as well. That honestly comes down to the broken electrocute + ignite combo. It's digusting the damage.. If you took that away she would not be 1 shotting you with 2 items. So long as she isn't fed, and her early game kill potential would drop significantly as well, along with every assassin.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-08-10T04:31:48.427+0000) > > Her R1 does little damage because it has huge potential already built in, again balanced, and balanced how it should be. It has a mini stun. Not a 9 hour stun, a mini stun, enough to stop someone from backing, teleporting, ulting, or charge up skills. It can also be used as an engage, or disengage. > > That is what real balance is imo. It has utility therefore damage is low. As it shoudl be on ALL champions.. Which it's not on 99% of them. THen her R2, the real damage dealer, has a set window which it can be used, otherwise its wasted. Again, skill balancing your cd's, passive, and skills sets, while still giving the enemy time to counter play, disengage, or all in. > > Her Q is fine as is. Its a massive cost, and little damage. It's not until max rank that it becomes a decent skill with the 100+% damage on creeps, but even then the damage ratio's on it are just fine, and it has insane costs on energy, forcing you to choose when and when not to use it. insanely high cost, for decent damage. Balanced imo. > > Her E again, is honestly very well balanced again. It has so much utility and alternate uses to it, its crazy. Again if used right, and landed well, you can use it to setup ganks to get out of dodge, by Eing your own shroud behind the lines and setting you up for another engagement. > > You can use it to teleport to an enemy that's normally extremely difficult to follow, like leblancs, zeds, lee sins, and talons in the jungle. > > That much incredible utility and follow up should result in much lower damage all together, which it does. That's how balance works bro... Give up 1 thing, for something else. > > It's not like other assassins who get insane utility ontop of insane damage and super low CD's with low costs, or fuck, no costs at all... > > You made my point of why she is quite possibly the most well balanced champion to ever hit league of legends. > > What makes all these high utility, low damage skills work, is because they synergize so perfectly with her passive, which is where her real damage comes in, but is also what makes her so balanced. small bursts, and time for both akali and the enemy to engage, re engage, or dis engage, and outplay at any point in those. She can throw 3 Q's before running out of energy, how is that high cost? She replenishes it naturally and extra with shroud.
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T04:48:49.730+0000) > > She can throw 3 Q's before running out of energy, how is that high cost? She replenishes it naturally and extra with shroud. Because If you use 2, you have no fighting potential, and the damage is so low its not worth it. Q is to synergyize with her passive. Not do outright damage, and the cost is very high for that 1 auto passive chance. Your opponent has time to disengage and wait for your passive to die, which is obvious after akali Q's you, run back, wait. The damage is so low in the trading phase, that unless you're playing her skillfully the opponent is going to make you drain energy left and right, and give them an upper hand in a trade if push comes to shove.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T02:27:39.750+0000) > > Damn now I can't respond with "Balance in all things" they took away her quote lol. Ironic since she seem sto be the most balanced. "Balance be damned... Wipe them out!" - {{champion:39}}
> [{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T04:33:57.910+0000) > > "Balance be damned... Wipe them out!" - {{champion:39}} Is that an actual quote from Irelia? Seems like an odd quote for her to say, since being a dancer is all about balance and finesse. Same with blade play, is all about balance.
HJTBB (NA)
: akali has the strongest level 6 in the game nerf her q, buff the shit out of her E, buff r1, nerf r2 she should have options of whether to max E or Q in lane, not Q 100% of the time, then W. And her r2 is broken, with the r1 tickling people. that's my thought at least
> [{quoted}](name=HJTBB,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-08-10T04:23:26.509+0000) > > akali has the strongest level 6 in the game > nerf her q, buff the shit out of her E, buff r1, nerf r2 > she should have options of whether to max E or Q in lane, not Q 100% of the time, then W. And her r2 is broken, with the r1 tickling people. > that's my thought at least Her R1 does little damage because it has huge potential already built in, again balanced, and balanced how it should be. It has a mini stun. Not a 9 hour stun, a mini stun, enough to stop someone from backing, teleporting, ulting, or charge up skills. It can also be used as an engage, or disengage. That is what real balance is imo. It has utility therefore damage is low. As it shoudl be on ALL champions.. Which it's not on 99% of them. THen her R2, the real damage dealer, has a set window which it can be used, otherwise its wasted. Again, skill balancing your cd's, passive, and skills sets, while still giving the enemy time to counter play, disengage, or all in. Her Q is fine as is. Its a massive cost, and little damage. It's not until max rank that it becomes a decent skill with the 100+% damage on creeps, but even then the damage ratio's on it are just fine, and it has insane costs on energy, forcing you to choose when and when not to use it. insanely high cost, for decent damage. Balanced imo. Her E again, is honestly very well balanced again. It has so much utility and alternate uses to it, its crazy. Again if used right, and landed well, you can use it to setup ganks to get out of dodge, by Eing your own shroud behind the lines and setting you up for another engagement. You can use it to teleport to an enemy that's normally extremely difficult to follow, like leblancs, zeds, lee sins, and talons in the jungle. That much incredible utility and follow up should result in much lower damage all together, which it does. That's how balance works bro... Give up 1 thing, for something else. It's not like other assassins who get insane utility ontop of insane damage and super low CD's with low costs, or fuck, no costs at all... You made my point of why she is quite possibly the most well balanced champion to ever hit league of legends. What makes all these high utility, low damage skills work, is because they synergize so perfectly with her passive, which is where her real damage comes in, but is also what makes her so balanced. small bursts, and time for both akali and the enemy to engage, re engage, or dis engage, and outplay at any point in those.
: Tired of losing every game; looking for a mentor
> [{quoted}](name=Tristan Griffon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tyvG2xAX,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-09T20:54:28.263+0000) > > Me and my brother play League frequently these days. But we lose way too much. I dunno if it's because we as players are just terrible, if it's because we always land teams full of morons, or what... But I'm tired of always losing. The few victories we get just don't feel worth it when your K/D/A is about 0/2/1 or 1/0/3. Makes you feel like you're just total garbage at the game. Always being outplayed doesn't really help matters, either. Doesn't matter what lane I am, or who I am, I feel like I'm _always_ countered by whoever I go up against. (Except maybe Nautilus when I play Rumble. Ohoho, does Nautilus not stand a chance...) > > So, since I'm just sick of playing the losing/crying game every time I boot up League, I'm going to do something I didn't think I'd ever do before - reach out to see if I can meet someone who's good at League that'd be willing to teach me how to play. And by that, I don't mean only running customs where you curbstomp my ass without actually teaching me - I already dealt with a 'mentor' like that, and I don't like it at all. I mean actually teaching, guiding, leading. Advice and the like. Possibly better item and rune sets than I already use. That sort of stuff. > > I'm willing to listen. I'm willing to learn. Anything is better than constantly being the laughingstock of an entire team because I can hardly do jack diddly squat... I've tried twice to get a mentor, both times were just people going into a 1v1 then stomping me without actually teaching me anything. They'll tell me what I'm doing wrong sure.. but how is that supposed to be help me with my macro game? or even countering other champs if you're just stomping me in a 1v1 on the same champ? I've added you since you seem to legitimately want to learn. I'm climbing through the ranks only in Silver V myself, but I have no real problems with this, and my skill elvel is more gold I in most respects. My only personal suffering is my jungle clearing times that I need to work on. Either way would be nice to have someone who wants to learn like I do, and maybe give each other some tips. I've added you ingame.
Eedat (NA)
: FFS read the damn statement being discussed > 100-0 you while being invisible > WHILE being invisible > ***WHILE*** #while (h)wīl/ at the same time; meanwhile. At no point is Wukong ever damaging you while being stealthed. Wukong is damaging you 0% of the time while in stealth. Wukong does no burst to you while in stealth. It is not ***effectively*** damaging you ***while*** being in stealth. He bursts you ***AFTER*** being stealthed. That is a ***completely different statement***. ***Effectively*** does not apply here in the context that you used it. He does have another method to conceal his presence while bursting you. Its not a technicallity. It's not "effectively the same". It's a matter or true and false. Fact and fiction. If you had said "well he bursts you ***FROM*** stealth", you'd be correct. And yes, you DO have time to react
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qiPHNwmr,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-09T14:34:33.918+0000) > > FFS read the damn statement being discussed > > > #while > (h)wīl/ > > at the same time; meanwhile. > > > At no point is Wukong ever damaging you while being stealthed. Wukong is damaging you 0% of the time while in stealth. Wukong does no burst to you while in stealth. It is not ***effectively*** damaging you ***while*** being in stealth. He bursts you ***AFTER*** being stealthed. That is a ***completely different statement***. ***Effectively*** does not apply here in the context that you used it. He does have another method to conceal his presence while bursting you. Its not a technicallity. It's not "effectively the same". It's a matter or true and false. Fact and fiction. If you had said "well he bursts you ***FROM*** stealth", you'd be correct. And yes, you DO have time to react Oh look, another moron who has to mince words because he lost the initial argument and has nothing to back it up with.
: Every time I see someone get facerolled in the mid lane they never build that item. See the comment below to understand why a 300g buy shits on his 1100 gold buy and how efficient seekers I against him and other lethality mid matchups. And your zhonyas should not protect you from every ult he has to throw at you. At lvl 6 his ult (without CDR) is the same cooldown as zhonyas so stop bitching about him snowballing during laning phase. I'm assuming team fights post lvl 16 are the problem here. Seeing as how you're the support you seem to be the one that's messing them up. When zed ults, he lands directly behind his target. Stun him right there. Exhaust him right there. Root him right there. As Sion, when i see zed ult a target, I start to charge my Q while he's in the animation behind my ally. It's a team game and it seems you're not "supporting" your team the right way. Get reported goofball.
> [{quoted}](name=PhalseLogic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5Mxe8E,comment-id=00070000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T01:55:34.921+0000) > > Every time I see someone get facerolled in the mid lane they never build that item. See the comment below to understand why a 300g buy shits on his 1100 gold buy and how efficient seekers I against him and other lethality mid matchups. > > And your zhonyas should not protect you from every ult he has to throw at you. At lvl 6 his ult (without CDR) is the same cooldown as zhonyas so stop bitching about him snowballing during laning phase. > > I'm assuming team fights post lvl 16 are the problem here. Seeing as how you're the support you seem to be the one that's messing them up. When zed ults, he lands directly behind his target. Stun him right there. Exhaust him right there. Root him right there. As Sion, when i see zed ult a target, I start to charge my Q while he's in the animation behind my ally. It's a team game and it seems you're not "supporting" your team the right way. Get reported goofball. The fact you NEED an item to stop zed from all inning you everytime his ult is up, is fact proof he's broken and OP. It's that simple... He doesn't even need to be fed, and even by lvl 10 just by passively safe farming with his Q, he can all in you miss half his shit, and still kill you with almost no threat in return.. Once he gets a few kills, forces you to pop zhonya's once, then all ins you on his second ult cd before your zhonya's is up, its gg.. He doesn't take skill, and he isn't skill based. put your cursor next to your opponent, ult, Q, auto, W, and warp back to your clone 2 screens away and wait for the free kill from your ult.. It's not difficult. Its superbly easy. It takes a very very high elo player to be able to effectively counter a zed through sheer split second perfect timings, and even then they need zhonya's to for that little bit of added damage reduction. its completely broken, and just trying to argue how zed isn't disgustingly broken is a joke in all honesty.
Elixors (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5Mxe8E,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2018-08-10T02:36:18.621+0000) > > While I agree zed is disgustingly broken and OP, with far too many steroids jammed up his ass for free. Your point is laughable... that's the whole point of League.. Some champs are stronger against others, some champs are weaker against others, that's the whole point of counter picking... > > The real problem with zed... is those 4 champs are literally his only counter... 4 champs out of 100's... that's enough to show how disgustingly broken he is. What do you think the point of my post was?
> [{quoted}](name=Elixors,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5Mxe8E,comment-id=0003000000020000,timestamp=2018-08-10T02:44:47.710+0000) > > What do you think the point of my post was? I get what you were saying now. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
YuGiHo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-10T03:09:30.289+0000) > > idk, I feel like her power curves are a bit absurd. > > Once she has access to her full kit, it's like she can duel just about anyone, even from a deficit, and once people start grouping at all, at least as AP, she falls off pretty hard. > > Her shroud can also feel really unfair for the opponent, it's kinda like a different flavor of Yas's wall. Instead shielding from targetted abilities and even towers if you have a minion wave, while skillshots are ironically the counter. yea, im learning that as akali if the jungle is a champ with point and click skills like tryd,hec,eve, or shaco she can just drop shroud and walk away. my last game a hec ganked me with his e and predator but he could not land the e because he could not click me. every gank he tried to make thats what happened.
> [{quoted}](name=YuGiHo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-10T03:21:59.300+0000) > > yea, im learning that as akali if the jungle is a champ with point and click skills like tryd,hec,eve, or shaco she can just drop shroud and walk away. my last game a hec ganked me with his e and predator but he could not land the e because he could not click me. every gank he tried to make thats what happened. That may be, but assassins ninja's especially are supposed to excel at getting away, and poofing. How is that any different than zed just dashing away with his clone, or Fizz pole hoping away, eve ulting and going invisible or leblanc double dashing 9 screens away. The fact, that he can still sit in her shroud, and still doe AOE damage to her, his ult can still hit her, even after shroud, etc. can force her into bad positions, or even fear her out o fher shroud. Meanwhile zed can just clone away, then ult right back in safe as can be, and insta kill you 100-0, leblanc can do the same, etc. Akali can't, unless she's already strong enough to fight you 1v1 in which case, that's your fault, because as my post said, she has to fracture her damage bursts, you have ample time especially as hec to back off if you didn't catch her when her shroud is down, or she's just used E, or ult is down. Yes I realize you were the one playing Akali, but pointing out.. good times to go in on ANY lane, against ANY champ is not when they have their cd's off cooldown.. That's like trying to gank zed when he just clones away under his tower, then complaining he's so OP because of it.. Yea, well don't gank him when its off of cd... In Akali's case that cd timer is twice as long as zeds "Get out of gank free" ability.
Elixors (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Takazaki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5Mxe8E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-09T08:27:06.008+0000) > > {{summoner:3}} {{item:3157}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:245}} > > the amount of counter options to fight zed is large because since he was so over played, people have know his kit in and out so we're being forced into playing champs just because riot refuses to do something about his stupidly high burst lol
> [{quoted}](name=Elixors,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5Mxe8E,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-09T16:57:13.534+0000) > > so we're being forced into playing champs just because riot refuses to do something about his stupidly high burst lol While I agree zed is disgustingly broken and OP, with far too many steroids jammed up his ass for free. Your point is laughable... that's the whole point of League.. Some champs are stronger against others, some champs are weaker against others, that's the whole point of counter picking... The real problem with zed... is those 4 champs are literally his only counter... 4 champs out of 100's... that's enough to show how disgustingly broken he is.
: Balance is weakness {{champion:238}}
> [{quoted}](name=Hi im Faker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cwgjQlJr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-10T02:16:06.963+0000) > > Balance is weakness {{champion:238}} Damn now I can't respond with "Balance in all things" they took away her quote lol. Ironic since she seem sto be the most balanced.
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: I'm confused tho,isn't hecarim dogshit right now? Haven't even seen a hec in litteraly 3 months and I've been playing regularly.
> [{quoted}](name=TheKingOfBiches,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YO3t9JAh,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-08-08T23:57:18.998+0000) > > I'm confused tho,isn't hecarim dogshit right now? Haven't even seen a hec in litteraly 3 months and I've been playing regularly. Last several days I've seen him, and he 1 shots 3 people everytime. He seems perfectly brokenly OP right now tbh..
: I love people that don’t grasp the concept that mages bot lane no longer works
> [{quoted}](name=KronosXVIIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1T0dQoLX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-09T10:58:42.998+0000) > > I love people that don’t grasp the concept that mages bot lane no longer works They see some pro's cheese it, and think they can do it too lol
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Muxxik (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-09T05:32:42.594+0000) > > Let me ask you this then... Lets say all your skills in league were dropped to bronze level, but you could choose 1 skill in league to keep at at a high elo. What to you would be the most important to keep and let everything else drop to bronze. > > It can be anything from teamfighting, csing, lane magagement, map management, objective management, champion skill level, etc. I mean if I were to choose one it would sort of diminish the importance of the others, its not that you want to ignore it, but I'd say if you were trying to climb and you're starting from a place like s5, probably just straight champion skill level/mechanics. Rotation is important and you're gonna lose more games than you need to if you don't rotate properly, or have poor vision/map awareness, or don't help your lanes unfreeze or reset when needed. But if you can't handle yourself in a duel, or 2v2 skirmish, with your main champion, you honestly won't get anywhere at all. It doesn't really matter that you go to all the right places on the map if you lose the fights that you should win when you get there. One thing that held me back with basic mechanics before I really started climbing in season 5 was that I'd just panic during all-ins. For me, it helps to think about exactly how that champion is going to react to an all in, so that I can already be ready to anticipate it or counter it. For example, if you jump on Vlad and you're ahead at all, most times he's gonna pool somewhat early. Don't waste a bunch of cooldowns before he pools. Just try to be a step ahead, you have plenty of time to think before you go in.
> [{quoted}](name=Muxxik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-08-09T06:16:00.943+0000) > > I mean if I were to choose one it would sort of diminish the importance of the others, its not that you want to ignore it, but I'd say if you were trying to climb and you're starting from a place like s5, probably just straight champion skill level/mechanics. > > Rotation is important and you're gonna lose more games than you need to if you don't rotate properly, or have poor vision/map awareness, or don't help your lanes unfreeze or reset when needed. But if you can't handle yourself in a duel, or 2v2 skirmish, with your main champion, you honestly won't get anywhere at all. It doesn't really matter that you go to all the right places on the map if you lose the fights that you should win when you get there. > > One thing that held me back with basic mechanics before I really started climbing in season 5 was that I'd just panic during all-ins. For me, it helps to think about exactly how that champion is going to react to an all in, so that I can already be ready to anticipate it or counter it. For example, if you jump on Vlad and you're ahead at all, most times he's gonna pool somewhat early. Don't waste a bunch of cooldowns before he pools. Just try to be a step ahead, you have plenty of time to think before you go in. Seems like I'm spot on with my 1v1, 2v2, skirmish and team fighting. That is definetly something I feel solid and confident on. I honestly feel like my biggest problem is again, just jungle clearing, and deciphering which lane I should help over others. If I'm going to be brutally honest with myself.. That is my biggest and absolute downfall, that and csing quicker in jungle/clearing faster. I know to push lanes when I gank a lane and win, I am very good at 1v1ing at leaset up to gold I level with no problem, and I know which champions I should and shouldn't fight unless I'm ahead. Do you have any links, or know of anywhere I could go to get tips or suggestions in terms of those big problems I identify with my own knowledge/skill.. I've tried looking some, but all I can find are outdated youtube videos, or guides. I really just need a good "general" jungle guide to help with decision making and clearing.
Muxxik (NA)
: Yeah I hear you, there are a lot of places you can go online where people would review your replays with you. I'd review one but I only recently started playing ranked again - I took a break after season 5 when I ended in Plat 4 and came back just this season. So I finished placements awhile back and I'm grinding out some ranked until I get back to where I was lol. That and it's a lot easier for me to review a replay for a laner than a jungler :p
> [{quoted}](name=Muxxik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-09T02:14:18.017+0000) > > Yeah I hear you, there are a lot of places you can go online where people would review your replays with you. I'd review one but I only recently started playing ranked again - I took a break after season 5 when I ended in Plat 4 and came back just this season. So I finished placements awhile back and I'm grinding out some ranked until I get back to where I was lol. > > That and it's a lot easier for me to review a replay for a laner than a jungler :p Let me ask you this then... Lets say all your skills in league were dropped to bronze level, but you could choose 1 skill in league to keep at at a high elo. What to you would be the most important to keep and let everything else drop to bronze. It can be anything from teamfighting, csing, lane magagement, map management, objective management, champion skill level, etc.
Muxxik (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-08-08T16:11:03.906+0000) > > @1 > > It's more.. Should I keep focusing damage eve though I'm getting blown up? or should I double down on defense to stop it. Both ways are good ways givent he situation, but sometimes I don't know which is which. This is where reviewing your replays with someone really comes in handy. There's more variables than just the eve in a game, but if she's the problem then maybe consider items like Banshees that give you MR, utility against burst, and don't sacrifice on damage. If the enemy team has magic damage but not much CC (eve, etc.) but has MR, consider sorc boots instead of merc treads. A lot of things are really situational but I'd say don't over-analyze every tiny decision. Focus on the meat/potatoes (proper rotation, farming, wave manipulation if your gank is successful, etc.)
> [{quoted}](name=Muxxik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-08-08T17:09:23.157+0000) > > This is where reviewing your replays with someone really comes in handy. There's more variables than just the eve in a game, but if she's the problem then maybe consider items like Banshees that give you MR, utility against burst, and don't sacrifice on damage. If the enemy team has magic damage but not much CC (eve, etc.) but has MR, consider sorc boots instead of merc treads. > > A lot of things are really situational but I'd say don't over-analyze every tiny decision. Focus on the meat/potatoes (proper rotation, farming, wave manipulation if your gank is successful, etc.) SOrry that was a typo, it's supposed to say "Even though" not Eve the champion. lol. but I get what you're saying. Thanks. Problem is I really don't have anyone to review my replays with, all my friends are even lower elo than me stuck in bronze 5-3 I'm climbing through silver, but often play with them, which is kinda making me stuck at silver 5 cuz they tend to throw the games quite frequently and blame everyone, even when I point out their flaws to try to help them. I never get anything in return but destructive criticism and telling me I'm just as bad cuz reasons. I need someone who really knows the game at a higher elo than gold even to tell me what I'm really doing wrong, because I feel as though I know the game very well, but at the same time I know i'm doing things wrong obviously and missing key points in certain games. My jungle rotation, and clearing could certainly use some work as well.
Muxxik (NA)
: 1. Sometimes you should consider the fact that 'too tanky of enemies' might just not be your problem. It's nice to solve every problem for everyone, but you are limited by the champion you choose. Diana is a relatively solid front-line and can get pretty tanky, and/or can delete the back line depending on how you build her. Handling tanks is not something that she is really known for, like most burst mages/assassins. Rather than worry about "the enemies are too tanky for me to handle", worry about what you can handle: friendly reminders to your damage carries how to itemize against them if they are marksmen, or Azir/Cass sustain type damage dealers. Peeling the assassins from your carries, etc. 2. Jungle is by far my least experienced role so I can't really give you specific instruction; all I can say as a mid lane main is that subtle differences in how you farm can make huge differences over the course of a game. Sometimes not clearing that last camp before you back and just leaving it up might be a better option than clearing it depending on when your other camps are spawning, whereas you might have run to clear it and wasted time when you were going to be headed in that direction after basing anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Muxxik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-08T15:44:15.395+0000) > > 1. Sometimes you should consider the fact that 'too tanky of enemies' might just not be your problem. It's nice to solve every problem for everyone, but you are limited by the champion you choose. Diana is a relatively solid front-line and can get pretty tanky, and/or can delete the back line depending on how you build her. Handling tanks is not something that she is really known for, like most burst mages/assassins. Rather than worry about "the enemies are too tanky for me to handle", worry about what you can handle: friendly reminders to your damage carries how to itemize against them if they are marksmen, or Azir/Cass sustain type damage dealers. Peeling the assassins from your carries, etc. > > 2. Jungle is by far my least experienced role so I can't really give you specific instruction; all I can say as a mid lane main is that subtle differences in how you farm can make huge differences over the course of a game. Sometimes not clearing that last camp before you back and just leaving it up might be a better option than clearing it depending on when your other camps are spawning, whereas you might have run to clear it and wasted time when you were going to be headed in that direction after basing anyway. @1 It's more.. Should I keep focusing damage eve though I'm getting blown up? or should I double down on defense to stop it. Both ways are good ways givent he situation, but sometimes I don't know which is which.
Muxxik (NA)
: One thing I mentioned in a post similar to this: Having stats on your main(s) similar to those in Master/Challenger will be common for Silver+ players because you are comparing your stats against silver vs. their stats against Matsers/Challengers. It is not an indication that you belong in those tiers, but it is an indication that you're doing things decently (especially if your vision stats are similar) in your own elo. One thing stats can't tell you is how to manipulate waves, or where to roam, where to rotate from base, and when. If all your stats are top notch and you're still losing a lot, consider watching your replays (preferably with someone) and figure out where you missed opportunities.
> [{quoted}](name=Muxxik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Au6soQBs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-08T14:25:02.096+0000) > > One thing I mentioned in a post similar to this: > > Having stats on your main(s) similar to those in Master/Challenger will be common for Silver+ players because you are comparing your stats against silver vs. their stats against Matsers/Challengers. It is not an indication that you belong in those tiers, but it is an indication that you're doing things decently (especially if your vision stats are similar) in your own elo. > > One thing stats can't tell you is how to manipulate waves, or where to roam, where to rotate from base, and when. If all your stats are top notch and you're still losing a lot, consider watching your replays (preferably with someone) and figure out where you missed opportunities. I thinkj my biggest problem is 1) item selection sometimes, not often, but sometimes I just dont know what to build into a certain "problem" like too tanky of enemies. 2) csing while jungling. My jungling seems abysmally slower than I'd like it to be. Not sure how to get better at this.. I've tried watching pro's, and other high elo diana mains, but they seem to do the same things I do, but somehow clear jungles twice as fast.
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